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Worst Off-Season Yet? Why Do Leadoff Hitters Suck?  Halolinks.

The worst offseasons in Angels history - Sam Miller - The Orange County Register
If the Angels don’t make another move this offseason, the winter will go down as a disappointment for most fans. (HUGE SPLASH aside.) But you’ve been through worse. Much, much, much worse. Here are the four worst offseasons in the team’s history, outright disasters that will make you downright giddy about the Angels this winter...

Sam Miller tries to make us feel better about this year's off-season by pointing out it could be much worse.  One thing I noticed about previous bad off-seasons when compared to this year, is at least the Angels didn't lose an impact player to free agency following the 2010 season (unless you count Hideki Matsui and Scot Shields).  This off-season hasn't been bad...just uninspiring.  Be sure to check out the comment section of this OCR post where Matt Welch and Sean Smith show Earl Bloom the backs of their hands.

Hitting by Lineup Slot, 2010 - Walk Like a Sabermetrician
NL #3 hitters were the most productive in 2009 as well. American League teams had their best hitters in the cleanup spot on average. In the leadoff piece, I touched on how leadoff hitters as a group were below-average; here we see that it was the AL that produced that result, as junior circuit leadoff men were less productive than any other spots other than #8 and #9.

I find it interesting the Angels fell into the same "let's put a crappy hitter in the leadoff spot" trap that most of their AL rivals did.  Imagine how much of an advantage an AL team with a good leadoff hitter has over their competition when compared to the low rankings of the other  top-of-the-order hitters.  Another take-away point from this post; the Angels did not have a top ranking in any batting order slot, but they did have the worst #8 hitter in baseball.  Any guesses as to who that would be?  (Hint: Rhymes with Shmeff Shmathis)


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The Internet Zealot Responds - The Baseball Analysts 
Heyman released his Hall of Fame ballot on Twitter several days ago but devoted his entire column on Monday (sans his picks on the second page) to "Why I didn't cast a Hall of Fame vote for Bert Blyleven, again." Incredible. He mentions Blyleven specifically or refers to him in 24 of the 26 paragraphs that comprise nearly 2,000 words. By comparison, he writes one paragraph on Roberto Alomar, his top candidate; four paragraphs defending his selection of Jack Morris over Blyleven; and a few sentences on a separate page on each of his five other picks (Barry Larkin, Dave Parker, Tim Raines, Don Mattingly, and Dale Murphy). I'd like to respond to the following excerpts from Heyman's column...

What follows in the above post is Rich Lederer ripping Jon Heyman a new pooper.

The Two Markets - FanGraphs Baseball
There are several possible explanations for why these markets have gone different ways this winter; the one that holds the most water in my mind is that teams are reacting to the rise in prices in free agency by increasing their valuations of cost-controlled players. Teams are essentially seeing that the free-agent market has mostly recovered after a downturn in spending last year, and with prices for players with 6+ years of service time going up, the perceived value of players who are not yet subject to market pricing also has gone up. 

Taking advantage of weak-minded Front Offices; the next inefficiency to be exploited by Moneyball-minded General Managers!  This is a Dave Cameron post and I wanted to take the time to mention that he was right and I was wrong last off-season when he wrote:

It may work, but for the first time in a while, the Angels are clearly vulnerable. They’re no longer the clear favorites in the AL West, though they’re still certainly in the mix. But without a premium group of young players to build around and some important aging role players, the Angels are at a crossroads. If they don’t win in 2010 with this team, it might be time to look at going young for a year or two in order to rebuild the foundation of the team.

I went on record saying he was a biased idiot because he had ranked the Angels the 11th best organization.  I thought the club should have been ranked higher, but as it turns out I was the biased idiot.

Poll
The Angels leadoff hitter in 2011 should be:
Bobby Abreu
158 votes
Peter Bourjos
234 votes
Erick Aybar
81 votes
Johnny Damon
114 votes
Scott Podsednik
128 votes
Other (comment below)
41 votes

756 votes | Poll has closed

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Would that be Breff Brathis?

"I can't tell people what to think or not to think. Their perceptions are their perceptions. We just feel we've taken a step forward. At the end of the day, we have to play 162 games. Once that happens then we'll be able to evaluate the offseason moves."~Tony Reagins, on the Angels' offseason

by George Kaplan on Dec 22, 2010 7:13 AM PST reply actions  

Oh fuck you

I was going to post that EXACT thing.

I used to like you Kaplan…. this means war.

I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....

by PhiSlamma on Dec 22, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

You're both wrong.

It’s Leff Grathis.

Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch

by red floyd on Dec 22, 2010 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I like the name Breff

it could lead someone to say “Man, the Angels’ Breff stinks”

"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some douche named DFA from AN

by 2pintsofbooze on Dec 22, 2010 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Man just seeing those off-seasons all at once makes me sick.

Any time you think you have the game conquered the game will turn around and punch you right in the nose.

Mike Schmidt

by Monkeyspanked on Dec 22, 2010 7:22 AM PST reply actions  

USA Today sports weekly...

… Has an organizational report on the Halos this week. Pick one up if anyone get the chance. Going through the positions, at Catcher I thought this nugget would get some laughs, “The Angels want to use Jeff Mathis as their everyday catcher. But Mathis hit .195 with 3 homers in 2010, (here’s the good part), tough to stomach even with his top-flight defense.” The writer doesn’t even mention Napoli (Bob Nightengale).Come to think of it, maybe you shouldn’t pick one up…

by AlohaHalofan on Dec 22, 2010 7:27 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Just read Lederer's piece

Can we all agree on one thing, at minimum:

John Heyman is a tool.

"I can't tell people what to think or not to think. Their perceptions are their perceptions. We just feel we've taken a step forward. At the end of the day, we have to play 162 games. Once that happens then we'll be able to evaluate the offseason moves."~Tony Reagins, on the Angels' offseason

by George Kaplan on Dec 22, 2010 7:58 AM PST reply actions  

Agreed.

I was going to go with “idiot,” but tool works just fine.

NOT MY QUINNY!!!!

by halofan4life on Dec 22, 2010 8:15 AM PST up reply actions  

John Heyman likes to quote Dr. Evil:
How about, "NO!, you Ccrazy Dutch Bastard?

Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch

by red floyd on Dec 22, 2010 9:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Bobb-y! Bobb-y! Bobb-y!

Seriously folks, OBP and BA numbers are leaps and bounds beyond Bourjos and he’ll still take like 20+ bags. Bourjos should be in the 9 slot until he proves he can take some walks and hit above .260.

Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.

by Commander_Nate on Dec 22, 2010 8:30 AM PST reply actions  

^this^

Fleet Pete needs more time and “aging.” But at least we’ll have some serious speed at the bottom of the line-up again with he and Aybar in the 8 and 9 hole..
And way to “man-up” Wihalofan and admit you were wrong (unfortunately)

by Raaddad on Dec 22, 2010 8:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Thinking about the leadoff spot just makes me realize how weak we might be next year

If we decide to not pay Beltre, you could be looking at this powerhouse:

1 – Izturis
2 – Abreu
3 – Hunter
4- Morales
5 – Rivera
6 – Kendrick
7 – Aybar
8 – Mathis
9 – Bourjous

vomits uncontrollably

RIP Nick Adenhart

by ihearhowie2.0 on Dec 22, 2010 8:39 AM PST reply actions  

Hey!

Don’t forget to add Scott Podsednik to that lineup! We are about to make a BIG SPLASH!

"Jeff Mathis is like Robb Quinlan without the sex appeal" - Sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher

by ryanfea on Dec 22, 2010 9:14 AM PST up reply actions  

What a Difference a Year Makes

Plate Appearances / OPS+ (2009)
Izturis (437) 109
Abreu (667) 118
Hunter (506) 128
Morales (622) 139
Rivera (572) 111
Kendrick (400) 104
Aybar (556) 104
Mathis (272) 58
Bourjous (did not play)
2009 Angels

What a shame.

From this:

To this:

by Fan Since 1981 on Dec 22, 2010 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

"But without a premium group of young players"....

Hey, hey, HEY!!!! We’ve got MATHIS!!!

Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch

by red floyd on Dec 22, 2010 8:58 AM PST reply actions  

w#8hib

Peter Bourjos is faster than anyone on your team.

by 44FAN on Dec 22, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

I think you got some line noise there...

Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch

by red floyd on Dec 22, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

At this point - given the roster

does it really matter who is batting lead-off?

by mustard_man on Dec 22, 2010 9:09 AM PST reply actions  

I hate 22 of you

Posednik? Are you serious?

Reggie Willits: The non-tender candidate of my dreams.

by hauldog on Dec 22, 2010 9:45 AM PST reply actions  

It's 23 now.

Have to up your hatin’.

THIS… IS… ANAHEIM!!

by opiejeanne on Dec 22, 2010 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

35

Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch

by red floyd on Dec 22, 2010 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

If you got hate in your heart, let it out

Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.

by Commander_Nate on Dec 22, 2010 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Thanks to me, it's 40 now.

W6G -- Unless there's a good trade on the table.

by RexTookMyStash on Dec 22, 2010 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

No Bobby should not lead-off

Look I love Abreu but just because he has a high OBP doesn’t mean you want him as your lead-off hitter. Abreu is an RBI man and that’s what we need to use him for. He is a #3 (OR #2 hitter) he is the guy who will bring in guys who are already on base. When Bobby was batting lead-off he did get on base a lot but that is where he stayed because there was no Bobby Abreu following him to knock him home. Bobby’s numbers were down last year (by anyone’s’ count it was an off year for him) but his RBI numbers were hurt substantially by the time he batted in the lead-off spot. Bourjous might be a lead-off batter in the future but he is awful young to start there now. Beltre would be great there if we can get him. Hell if push comes to shove bring in Damon for a one-year contract and have him bat lead-off, he still has a good season or two in him.

by kbrown2225 on Dec 22, 2010 9:56 AM PST reply actions  

I presume you didn't mean Beltre at lead-off? ("there")

Although that would mean some serious ‘pop’ at the top of the order.
Also, with Aybar and Fleet Pete at the bottom of the order, Bobby should have some great RBI opportunities. (O please don’t bat Mathis 8th or 9th…)

by Raaddad on Dec 22, 2010 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

So, what happens during the rest of the game when 7,8,9 hit in front of 1?

Aybar returning to somewhere near .300 and Bourjos reaching any level of hitting competency would put two speedsters in front of Abreu from the 2nd inning and beyond.

Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.

by Commander_Nate on Dec 22, 2010 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Leading off, #5...

Brian Downing

(You thought I was going to say Jeff Mathis, didn’t you?)

Gene Mauch was never afraid to think outside the box, and putting Downing in the leadoff spot was one of his inspiring moves. Yeah, he was forced to do it when Burleson went down, but it worked. And he was FAR from a prototypical leadoff hitter.

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." - Woody Hayes

by johnnyangel101 on Dec 22, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

EARL BLOOM SLAPDOWN

I think the old fucker got EVERY SINGLE FACT WRONG in that article and MattChone Welchsmith just bulldozed his ass in the comments. When you are out of our league the best thing is to avoid revealing it (number one lesson I have learned blogging here).

by Rev Halofan on Dec 22, 2010 10:40 AM PST reply actions  

This comment was funny:
Here is a crazy thought: Publish Jeff and Earl’s salaries to assist OCR shareholders in suing you both for theft!

by WiHaloFan on Dec 22, 2010 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

He keeps digging, too

The latest is that Dave Parker didn’t play for the A’s in 1989. You know, these things aren’t hard to look up.

by mattwelch on Dec 22, 2010 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Lead off hitters suck

because managers put sucky players in the lead-off spot. I’m not sure where the notion began that the guy who bats first has to be fast. I wasn’t around before the 80’s, but if the answer to that question is Rickey Henderson, then baseball folk really had no clue what actually made him so good.

It’s very simple: the lead off hitter is going to get more PA’s than any other hitter on the team. Having anyone besides one of the top three hitters on your team in that spot is simply fucking stupid. Yes, the ideal guy should be able to run the bases well, but in no way should that trait trump actually getting on base in the first place.

by dmhead on Dec 22, 2010 11:15 AM PST reply actions  

Back in my day...

Back in my day, the prize offseason move was Pat Rapp. At least our move actually improve the team, even if we fail (?) to spend bad money.

Eat My Angel Dust.

by Angels95 on Dec 22, 2010 12:23 PM PST reply actions  

The least popular of our lead-off choices above

is exactly the one the Soth will have leading off every game

by Raaddad on Dec 22, 2010 12:44 PM PST reply actions  

"junior circuit leadoff men"

Now thats some accurate description type shit….just sayin’

by thebigtizzle on Dec 22, 2010 6:38 PM PST reply actions  

What about

Jonny Damon I heard that the angels might be interested in him

Big Daddy J

by Halo fann 2002 on Dec 23, 2010 9:52 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Why did Bourjos win the poll?

Shouldn’t your lead-off hitter have displayed some actual offensive value?

Wow. Are we gonna need to have a talk about this whole Santa Clause thing too?

"That's the true harbinger of spring, not crocuses or swallows returning to Capistrano, but the sound of a bat on a ball." ~Bill Veeck

by LAASurfin on Dec 23, 2010 10:31 AM PST reply actions  

No, even Santa Claus knows that OBP is the most important skill of a leadoff hitter.

Warning: The message above may or may not contain sarcasm. Read and interpret at your own risk.

by snowhor on Dec 23, 2010 10:27 PM PST up reply actions  

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