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The Angels Future is Bright

I'll start this post off with that I have a shit eating grin on my face while I write this as I'm giddy with excitement. As our current line-up stands, with Napoli and Mathis as our starting catchers. Morales our 1st baseman. Kendrick at 2nd. Aybar at SS, and Wood at 3rd. River, Hunter, and Abreu filling the OF slots and Matsui as the DH.

 

1. Aybar SS

2. Abreu RF

3. Hunter CF

4. Morales 1st

5. Matsui DH

6. Rivera LF

7. Napoli C

8. Kendrick 2nd

9. Wood 3rd

To me, this is a solid and dangerous line-up capable of hitting us to the World Series. But this isn't the point of my post. I'm 3 years from now and how our team will look diffeent, especially in the OF. Let's face it, our outfielders are aging and we have young talent coming up in Grichuk out in LF with power, Bourjos the slick fielding speedster in CF, and Trout combining speed with developing power in RF. Trout and Bourjos are both CF's but one will have to give way and I think Trout has the build for a RF (stated as built like a RB) and Bourjos, a CF (6'1, 195lbs). The only other change I see in the next 2-3 years is our catcher spot and Hank Conger is the obvious choice. With the scouting report indicating him being ready for MLB pitching today, there is still a alot to be desired defensively. He did show some growth last year behind the dish according to Scouting Director Eddie Bane. Here is how I see our line-up in 2013 and ballpark projections.

1. Aybar SS (.300 BA, 10 HR, 55 RBI's, 20-25 SB's, .380 OBP, over 100RS)  Gold Glove

2. Kendrick 2nd (.290-.310 BA, 12-15 HR, 65-75 RBI's, 10 SB's, .360 OBP, 90RS)

3. Wood 3rd (.275 BA, 25 HR, 80-90 RBI's, .510 Slugging)

4. Morales 1st (Pretty much in-line with what he did in 2009, plus or minus a few in each category)

5. Grichuk LF (.270 BA, 20-25 HR, 80 RBI's)

6. Napoli DH (.270 BA, 25-30 HR, 80 RBI's)

7. Conger C (.290 BA, 15-20 HR, 70-80 RBI's)

8. Trout RF (.265-.275 BA, 10-15 HR, 55-65 RBI's, 15-20 SB's)

9. Bourjos CF (.265-.275 BA, 5-10 HR, 50 RBI's, 30-40 SB's, .350 OBP, 70-80RS)  

The reason I placed Grichuk ahead of Napoli was his speed rating over Napoli. Very reminiscent of Anderson, Edmonds, and Salmon. The elder statesman being Napoli being 32 at that time. Our starting nine average age would be 26.77 years old.

 

As for our pitching currently sitting at:

SP1. Kazmir

SP2. Weaver

SP3. Santana

SP4. Saunders

SP5. Pineiro

BP1. Stokes or Palmer

BP2. Bulger

BP3. Jepsen

BP4. Rodney

Set-up. Shields

Closer. Fuentes

Still a very formidable staff. I expect to see more growth from Kazmir and Weaver this year, both battling to see who the ace is. Santana has the stuff to be an ace, and in my opinion has the most electric stuff of our staff. Saunders is Mr. Reliability who will always keep you in games and has the potential to shit opponents out on any given night. Pineiro is a little up in the air, and I hope to see him build upon last years success, however, I'm a little cautious as in came in NL. I still feel he'll be a cery capable $5, but nothing to retain long term. Which brings me to the future pitching staff. No projections as pitching there are too many anomalies.

SP1. Kazmir or Weaver (Both capable aces)

SP2. Weaver or Kazmir (See above)

SP3. Santana or Saunders (Whomever has more value in 2013)

SP4. Trevor Reckling (Our young left hander who has a very hign upside)

SP5. Jordan Walden (Young fire balling right hander)

BP1. Bulger

BP2. Arredondo (Hopefully able to rebound from TJ Surgery and resign with us)

BP3.  Mosebach, Rodriguez, Kohn, Bachanov, or another prospect coming up.

BP4. Garrett Richards (One of the organizations harder throwers)

Set-up. A veteran set-up reliever (Shields should be done by 2013 as he'll be 37)

Closer. Jepsen

I am thinking about this season and I'm stoked it's just around the corner, but the future has me absolutely thrilled. Hopefully, all my projections come to fruition. Imagine how many titles we'll contend for in the twenty teens. Plus I think with that team, we'd have a ton of money left over for a superstar reliever or even a starting pitcher if Walden or Reckling don't work out.

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finally someone who gets it

It seems like every Angels fan I’ve talked to this offseason talks about the upcoming season negatively, pointing out “How good Seattle and Texas are going to be.” Well, I tell them, this season we begin to see how good our new foundation actually is. Our four infielders (assuming Maicer isn’t a starter and more of a super-sub) are all products of the Angels farm system, something other successful teams cant say. And if they can all start out hot, Aybar, Kendrick, and Morales have All-Star potential.

 And with your 2013 lineup/rotation prediction, I like it, but you’ve got to figure we’ll have a player from outside our system somewhere besides the set-up man. Although an all-Angels lineup would be sweet

2009 was good. Now on to 2010 - Let's go Halos!

by ryanb517 on Feb 6, 2010 9:27 AM PST reply actions  

What I'm trying to say is

I know we’ll be fine this season, and I am just as stoked as you are for it to begin. April 5th won’t come soon enough!

2009 was good. Now on to 2010 - Let's go Halos!

by ryanb517 on Feb 6, 2010 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Our four infielders (assuming Maicer isn’t a starter and more of a super-sub) are all products of the Angels farm system, something other successful teams cant say.

Seattle is trying to be able to say that with Kotchman and Figgins. Too bad they didnt pickup Eck and Adam Kennedy, they too could have had an all angels infield.

by Balls and Strikes on Feb 6, 2010 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm curious about the expression "shit-eating grin"

I use it myself (accompanied by a shit-eating grin?),
but what exactly does it mean? It has to be one of the strangest eupehmisms in American English (I believe its origins are American, but I wouldn’t count the Brits out).
I mean, why would you grin if you were eating shit? And why would you eat shit in the first place?
(apologies for yet another tangential moment…)

by Raaddad on Feb 6, 2010 10:06 AM PST reply actions  

The Urban Dictionary has the menaing

SAUCE

I like number 3’s explanation the best, but #1 has a little bit of the “factual history” of the saying in it.

by eyespy on Feb 7, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Freakin beautiful

I know you are going to crack up on me, but I really want to thank you for this:
1. the picture
2. the definitions (there all good)
3. and most importantly, the Urban Dictionary, which for some reason I didn’t know existed.
Believe it or not, it’s actually going to help some aspects of my work…

Picture me with a shit-eating grin right now…at least until the shit hits the fan or I get shit- faced watching the super bowl and listening to the shit-for-brains announcers shit all over themselves

by Raaddad on Feb 7, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

"You better wipe that shit eating grin off your face 'cuz this next song's a sad one"

“And more importantly than that, if you’re eating shit and grinning, then today’s probably not your day anyway so…”

Anyone???

Good fanpost. I agree, the future is bright.

"You gotta have nuts." - Torii Hunter / Part-Time Nemesis of the HH Reply Function

by Commander_Nate on Feb 6, 2010 10:23 AM PST reply actions  

blink 182

The Mark, Tom, and Travis Show, seconds before “Adam’s Song” starts.

For better or for worse, there was a point in high school where I had that entire cd memorized. :-p

Until spring training starts - let's go Cardinals and Suns!

by b0rd3rline on Feb 6, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Correct!

I still have a good portion of it memorized haha

"You gotta have nuts." - Torii Hunter / Part-Time Nemesis of the HH Reply Function

by Commander_Nate on Feb 6, 2010 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Yikes.

You do realize this is the punk rock Angel blog, right?

:P

by dmhead on Feb 6, 2010 11:49 PM PST up reply actions  

blink-182 was punk rock

Up through like, Dude Ranch/Enema of the State.

"You gotta have nuts." - Torii Hunter / Part-Time Nemesis of the HH Reply Function

by Commander_Nate on Feb 8, 2010 9:38 AM PST up reply actions  

eh

I don’t want to sound like some bitter old fart, so I’m just going to leave this be…

by dmhead on Feb 9, 2010 12:27 AM PST up reply actions  

but, but, but...

wikipedia says so: Blink-182 is an American punk rock band

;)

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Feb 9, 2010 12:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, if you want to get technical...

Other bands I listen to like, Bad Religion, NOFX, Black Flag, etc are far more “punk” in the traditional sense of the genre.

"You gotta have nuts." - Torii Hunter / Part-Time Nemesis of the HH Reply Function

by Commander_Nate on Feb 9, 2010 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Does your definition of the "traditional sense of the genre" reach back to the 60's?

"God watches over drunks and third baseman." - the Immortal Leo Durocher, predicting the coming of Brandon Wood...

by Stirrups on Feb 9, 2010 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

That's long before my time, but sure, why not?

"You gotta have nuts." - Torii Hunter / Part-Time Nemesis of the HH Reply Function

by Commander_Nate on Feb 9, 2010 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Just keeping you honest, youngling.

I, myself, was surprised to learn that some of the music I was listening to when I was a kid was a part of the root system for punk.

"God watches over drunks and third baseman." - the Immortal Leo Durocher, predicting the coming of Brandon Wood...

by Stirrups on Feb 9, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Yea, an under-rated band like Steppenwolf

was un uber punk AND heavy metal band, with their “heavy metal thunder,” in-your-face attitude, and just overall power gnarliness.

by Raaddad on Feb 9, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Power gnarliness FTW!!!

Yeah, punk has some interesting roots. Obviously I’m not as familiar with some of it as others could be due to my age. About the closest I can get to seeing any of that stuff now is when bands like Rise Against, Pennywise or NOFX would cover Minor Threat, Dead Kennedy’s and other bands that influenced them. Although, I did see the Circle Jerks at Warped Tour a few years back and I’ve seen TSOL play with Bad Religion.

Probably the three oldest bands I listen too and see regularly are Social D, Bad Religion and NOFX.

Who did you have in mind, Stirrups?

"You gotta have nuts." - Torii Hunter / Part-Time Nemesis of the HH Reply Function

by Commander_Nate on Feb 9, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

sex pistols, dead kennedy's and ramones

but isn’t Mick Jagger and the Stones the uber punk rocker and rock band? I mean, “Pain it Black,” “Satisfaction” and “Street fighting Man” are just quintessentially punkish masterpieces.

I remember the Sex Pistols fondly—not because I really liked them that much, but when I was just starting to write music I was hanging with some friends who had a band in Connecticut and they did covers of Johhny Rotten and the boys and sounded better! They were less fucked up than the dudes from GB, and, I don’t know, they could just play it “cleaner.”

by Raaddad on Feb 10, 2010 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

It all began with Iggy

The Stones affected a look of street toughs, but it was posing, and they were in it for the girls. Punk laughed at acts like the Stones.

Punk’s wellspring was Iggy and the Stooges. Iggy was in it because he was all just a little defective in the wiring of his brain. Iggy used to taunt the audience into committing acts of violence towards him—and that isn’t how one typically gets the chicks.

The Sex Pistols and the Ramones can both trace their inspirational roots to the Stooges.

"I can't tell people what to think or not to think. Their perceptions are their perceptions. We just feel we've taken a step forward. At the end of the day, we have to play 162 games. Once that happens then we'll be able to evaluate the offseason moves."~Tony Reagins, on the Angels' offseason

by George Kaplan on Feb 13, 2010 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Yea, good point

That actually make the same point (basically) in the History of Rock documentary. Iggy is quoted as saying that he modeled the steel-like banging sound of hard rock with the car manufacturing plants who gre up by, if memory serves correct.
Still, Mick and the boys were more well known and more listened to I contend, and therefore resonate more as the models and archetypes for most punkers.

by Raaddad on Feb 13, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

It seems to me Jimi Hendrix embodied the "spirit of punk".

Many of his songs reflect a disconnect with society (Purple Haze, I Don’t Live Today, Manic Depression, Stone Free), and he definitely exemplified the hard core “live fast – die young” attitude. He routinely performed while under the influence of drugs and/or alcohol. He’s the first performer I ever saw light his guitar on fire.

by sothball on Feb 10, 2010 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

sounds like a line from Crazy Heart, Nate

good film btw—Bridges is freakin’ beautiful

by Raaddad on Feb 6, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Sorry man, but there's some holes here.

In 3 years, Kazmir, Weaver, Saunders, Napoli, Mathis, Aybar, Kendrick and Morales would have all hit free agency. If the Angels wanted to sign them all there would be no turnover and our budget would rival the Yankees. Plus, Brandon Wood’s not a 3 hitter and Trout/Grichuk may not be ready in time. 2013 will look more like this:

SS Aybar
2B Kendrick
1B Morales
DH Napoli
3B Wood
C Conger
LF Pettit
CF Bourjos
RF Willits
BENCH: Ramirez©, Amarista(IF), Evans(OF), Trumbo(IF/OF), Sandoval(IF)
ROTATION: Santana, Saunders, Reckling, Walden, Richards
BULLPEN: Jepson, Bulger, Thompson, Kohn, Taylor, Rodriguez

AAA: Grichuk, Trout, Chatwood, Chaffee, Smith

by Halowood on Feb 6, 2010 11:03 AM PST reply actions  

i agree with Matt on much of what he wrote

But in 2013, Weaver is long gone to free agency and Kazmir probably so.

I wouldn’t put money on Napoli being in Anaheim, either.

"He's not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with''~Theo Epstein, talking about Papelbon

by George Kaplan on Feb 6, 2010 11:49 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Sort of

I think it is assumed that Conger will have arrived professionally by 2013. Napoli becomes a free agent after the 2012 season, and unless there are no better options for a DH in Anaheim and the Angels make a very generous offer, it is hard to imagine Napoli getting his best offer from the Angels to become full-time DH for the 2013 team.

It could happen, yes, but I don’t believe that is a highly likely scenario. I think he’d get offers for more money to play behind the plate as well as hit.

For that matter, with the surfeit of catching the Angels have at the moment and percolating through the minors, I could easily see Napoli as part of a trade package for a key piece anytime over the next three seasons.

"He's not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with''~Theo Epstein, talking about Papelbon

by George Kaplan on Feb 6, 2010 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I believe

  That he meant 3 seasons from now, meaning 2012,2011 and then 2012. My disagreement with him is that I don’t think Grichuk will be quite ready by then. Also, I really hope hope we will have enough depth by then that Reggie Willits can move on to a team that suits his abilities, like the Royals or Padres

The word is no......I am therefore going anyway
James T. Kirk

by ArchAngel_7 on Feb 8, 2010 11:29 PM PST up reply actions  

ooops

2010,2011,2012………..My kingdom for an edit key

The word is no......I am therefore going anyway
James T. Kirk

by ArchAngel_7 on Feb 8, 2010 11:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Quote from the above story
Here is how I see our line-up in 2013 and ballpark projections.

"He's not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with''~Theo Epstein, talking about Papelbon

by George Kaplan on Feb 9, 2010 3:20 AM PST up reply actions  

I do wonder about that

I’m assuming Weaver’s gone, mostly because of his jackass of an agent. Kazmir doesn’t hold any specific loyalty to the Angels, so I’m guessing he’s gone too. You’d think Napoli might stay, but I’d understand if he wanted to leave. Personally I think the Angels will offer him a full time spot at DH and catching 1 or 2 games a week and that will keep him here because of his relationship with our pitchers and Jeff Mathis.

by Halowood on Feb 6, 2010 1:58 PM PST reply actions  

Arredondo???

Didn’t he sign with the Reds???

Now stuck in Colorado Springs

by stuck in Romania on Feb 6, 2010 9:32 PM PST reply actions  

Seriously

If your gonna bother, at least keep up with what’s going on.

by dmhead on Feb 6, 2010 11:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Re-read what he wrote

He said he hoped that Arredondo would be able to “re-sign with us”. That acknowledges that ET isn’t a part of the current Angel roster.

I wonder if Arredondo will even be in pro ball by 2013, but that depends upon how well he recovers from his surgery, I guess. If he can’t bring the heat by 2012 (which is the second full season following the surgery, when players are expected to be fully healed and back in their game), then I doubt the Angels will be courting him, either. Clearly, the Reds are betting on the come that not only will ET have a healed arm in 2011 but also that he’ll have new-found maturity.

"He's not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with''~Theo Epstein, talking about Papelbon

by George Kaplan on Feb 7, 2010 8:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Actually, he wrote "resign with us".

Which, when you think about it, is kind of what he did.

Had I owned the Pittsburgh Pirates, I could have saved America.

by Stirrups on Feb 8, 2010 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Sigh....

Perfectionists, I swear.

Re-sign. Are we happy now?

by matt92130 on Feb 8, 2010 7:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Dude, chill.

I typo here with gusto and I don’t look back. I didn’t care at all about the miss (although this particular kind of typo brought up forth some dialog here).

This was just too wide of an opening for a quick joke to pass up. GK emphasized the re-sign point (with quotes), inadvertently pointing to the drama behind Arredondo’s departure (emotionally resigning, or checking out, with his demotion) while playing beneficial editor with the very word in question.

Had I owned the Pittsburgh Pirates, I could have saved America.

by Stirrups on Feb 8, 2010 8:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Not to pile on...

but technically in 2013 he’d still be under the Reds control, unless they non-tender him. At which point, why would the team revisit that? I can’t think of them ever going back to any player who had behavioral issues.

by dmhead on Feb 9, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm actually getting more interested in 2020

Once we take a tip from USC and sign some of these awesome 13-year-olds in so cal.

by Raaddad on Feb 9, 2010 3:36 PM PST reply actions  

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