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Buster Olney answers a question about what he thinks are the best rotations 1-5. It is an insider article, so let me know if the link doesn't work, and I will copy and paste the part about the rotations.

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by jessthelion on Feb 9, 2010 9:00 AM PST reply actions  

1. Red Sox: Josh Beckett, Jon Lester, John Lackey, Daisuke Matsuzaka, Clay Buchholz, No. 6 Tim Wakefield. On paper, a strong group — if Beckett has a season worthy of a contract drive, if Lackey succeeds in making the transition to the American League East, if Matsuzaka can finally get on the same page as the Red Sox staff and if Buchholz continues to improve.

   2. Yankees: CC Sabathia, A.J. Burnett, Andy Pettitte, Javier Vazquez, Phil Hughes. As usual, Burnett is the key for this group; it could be the best if he pitches at an elite level.

   3. White Sox: Jake Peavy, Mark Buehrle, John Danks, Gavin Floyd, Freddy Garcia. Peavy looked great in his three starts down the stretch this past season. More on that in Wednesday’s blog.

   4. Angels: Jered Weaver, Scott Kazmir, Joe Saunders, Ervin Santana, Joel Pineiro. Lackey is gone, but if Santana is healthy, this could be an excellent group.

   5. Cardinals: Chris Carpenter, Adam Wainwright, Kyle Lohse, Brad Penny, somebody else. Penny, by the way, appears to be in great shape and is motivated to have a big season.

People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~Rogers Hornsby

by K3YEROUT on Feb 9, 2010 9:08 AM PST reply actions  

Thanks

for the post

We're putting the band back togehter.

by billhune on Feb 9, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Yankees?

I’ll grant that their rotation is potentially as good as Olney rates it, but that depends upon several variables. Of course, the same can be said of any team, but aside from the questions about Burnett (who has has as many iffy seasons as not), they’re counting on Pettitte continuing to receive his shipments of HGH or something to keep him on top of his game at age 38, and for Vasquez to be a better pitcher at age 33 in NY than he was at age 27, and for Hughes to finally figure out how to get batters out for more than one time through the lineup.

by jjackflash on Feb 9, 2010 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, their IPV is higher than league average.

(Implosion Probability Value)

Wouldn’t shock me if A.J.’s riding the DL (psych eval) by June.

"Sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast."

by LAASurfin on Feb 9, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I think they have 3 guys who can pitch like aces

and have in the past. That, plus the potential of Hughes and the stability of Pettite make it hard to argue IMO

RIP Nick Adenhart

by ihearhowie2.0 on Feb 9, 2010 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I like our chances

And I think this right here is why us and the White Sox will make up half of the AL contingent in the 2010 playoffs. I’m betting on the Rangers’ offense and improved performances by their younger pitchers to carry them over either Boston or New York for the Wild Card.

As far as established rotations go, I agree this is the top 5, although perhaps not in this order.

"You gotta have nuts." - Torii Hunter / Part-Time Nemesis of the HH Reply Function

by Commander_Nate on Feb 9, 2010 3:04 PM PST reply actions  

So Olney rates us as having a better rotation than the M's

and everyone under the sun would say the Angels have the better offense, and yet we are suppose to believe the M’s will challenge for the division????

They scored 4 more runs than the Pirates last year guys……..

by MH252525 on Feb 9, 2010 5:18 PM PST reply actions  

Well Put.

In fact, you hear some crazies out they’re saying that we’ll be challenging THEM for the division, instead of the other way around. Ridiculous.

by AybarIsTheNewFiggy on Feb 9, 2010 8:11 PM PST up reply actions  

But obviously

Milton Bradley and Figgins.

You just know that they’ll instantly score a few thousand this year.

by TheKingfish on Feb 9, 2010 8:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Twister

  I can’t wait for Twister Bradley to have his mental breakdown with the M’s. It’s inevitable. Like T.O. in the NFL, some guys just can’t keep from making an ass out of themselves.

The word is no......I am therefore going anyway
James T. Kirk

by ArchAngel_7 on Feb 10, 2010 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Olney rates us 4th

and due to its stability, we could be higher. All of that and some of our own fans are still complaining about the offseason………

The word is no......I am therefore going anyway
James T. Kirk

by ArchAngel_7 on Feb 9, 2010 9:57 PM PST reply actions  

Why are there doubts about Santana's health?

I.ve read nothing about him hurting in the offseason, and he isn’t exactly proved to be injury prone over the last few years. His issues are more in his head than his body.

The word is no......I am therefore going anyway
James T. Kirk

by ArchAngel_7 on Feb 9, 2010 10:00 PM PST reply actions  

Well...last year he did go out onto the DL. Twice.

Mebbe there is a caveat about a new trend.

"God watches over drunks and third baseman." - the Immortal Leo Durocher, predicting the coming of Brandon Wood...

by Stirrups on Feb 9, 2010 10:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, he did

But Kaz and Saundo were both hurting as well. John Lackey been on the DL for the last 3 years and he doesn’t get tagged with the injury risk? Im just wondering if that was the best caveat Buster could come up with.

The word is no......I am therefore going anyway
James T. Kirk

by ArchAngel_7 on Feb 9, 2010 10:27 PM PST up reply actions  

IIRC, when Santana went on the DL the 1st time...

…the medical reports (I believe an MRI) showed his elbow tendon with moderate fraying., though not bad enough to require immediate surgery. That likely accounts for the hedging, caveats, and question marks.

by sothball on Feb 10, 2010 8:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Thanks

That was the kind of info I was looking for. When Dice-K, Peavy, and Penny aren’t mentioned as health risks, but Ervin is, it had me wondering WTF was going on.

The word is no......I am therefore going anyway
James T. Kirk

by ArchAngel_7 on Feb 10, 2010 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I would much rather have our 5 solid starters

than a rotation with an ace followed with “ifs”

by halofan1 on Feb 9, 2010 10:29 PM PST reply actions  

Okay, I'll bite.

How does one get away with ranking a staff with “somebody else” as their fifth starter 5th? Are we just penciling in Nuke LaLoosh and calling it a day, Olney?

Just Another Halo Victory / Rory Markas 1955 - 2010

by LazorkoRules on Feb 10, 2010 7:46 AM PST reply actions  

Even worse is that Brad Penny is the # four on that same rotation. Ugh.

“but he’s a motivated Brad Penny.” Wow, I am impressed.

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Feb 10, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

A motivated Brad Penny??

Be very scared, Hometown Buffet… very scared

Tape an aspirin on it

by Higz on Feb 10, 2010 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly.

He makes a point to his readers by starting off the piece explaining how this is the best 1-5 in MLB, not to be mistaken for the strong 1-2 punch of the M’s and then goes on to rank a staff in the top 5 that doesn’t even have a fifth starter?!? This is a perfect example of why everything Buster Olney says should be taken with a grain of salt . . . that or completely ignored.

RIP NA

by NoDakHalo on Feb 11, 2010 8:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Lohse, Penny and "sombody else" are better than the M's 3, 4 and 5 guys?

  Maybe Seatle can go to a 2 man rotation…….

The word is no......I am therefore going anyway
James T. Kirk

by ArchAngel_7 on Feb 10, 2010 4:48 PM PST reply actions  

i'm just glad we got mention

baseball tonight the other day had no one mentioning us as either the top 5 in baseball or having a top 5 rotation. we don’t have the archetype ace-figure, but we really haven’t had that since langston/finley, if you ask me.

i figure our rotation, at worst, is still solid top-to-bottom. i’m not counting on santana being great, but i think it’s hard to go against our rotation when you look at it as a whole. i just hope we can get something that scares people in the playoffs. weaver, kaz, i’m looking at you.

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart - Always an Angel

by Kernel on Feb 11, 2010 3:30 PM PST reply actions  

Yep. We're solid 1-5 (no matter who #1 is), while

Seattle is “Lee and Felix and three days of hicks”

Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch

by red floyd on Feb 11, 2010 7:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Brad Penny and Mr. X

Scary shit during interleague.

I’m drunk and have a theory, Olney, Rosenthal, and everyone else at ESPN and Fox Sports knows that any baseball fan could do their job (and arguably better). The only way they can stay relevant is to pepper in some nonsensical bullshit into their articles to get people riled up, reading and talking. I apologize if this isn’t as profound to anyone else as it is in my head.

Sorry Seattle, 2010 still isn't your year.

by Teixeira Who? on Feb 12, 2010 2:07 AM PST reply actions  

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