Who will be the first Angel to win/lose a job this season?
It's almost inevitable, there's always a turnover every year. Some players lose it, some players catch fire, it's why they play the game and we discuss it from every angle. Here's what I got:
Catcher: Mike Napoli vs. Jeff Mathis. Of course the easy answer is Mike Napoli. He's been a stud this Spring and has "future 40 HR DH" written all over him. But wait, Jeff Mathis isn't looking so bad anymore. He's always had a beautiful swing, but now he's actually making contact, on top of which, it appears his air-mailing days could be over, his throws this Spring have been on target. Chances are, we'll see another year of splitting the spot and next year Naps takes over part time DH/ catcher spot as Conger is integrated in. But for this year, don't be surprised if Jeff Mathis catches 20 more games than he has in the past.
Second Base: Howie Kendrick vs Maicer Izturis. Howie's primed for a HUGE year, last season he quietly proved that if he stays within himself and doesn't push, he could probably hit .350 over a full year. Yeah I know .350? BS. Not for Kendrick through. Beautiful swing, renewed confidence, more patience and playing time. He might force Maicer to the bench more than the Soth would prefer. Maicer's steady and should reasonably be a starting middle infielder somewhere. This is great depth to have. Don't be surprised if Howie Kendrick ends up starting 130 games at 2B this season.
Third Base: Brandon Wood vs Maicer Izturis. It's do or die time for Brandon Wood, though it probably isn't any fault of his own. This Spring, he's looking like he's ready to be the player we all knew he could be. 3 years ago many were up in arms that Wood wasn't our starting SS. He's gifted defensively, should challenge for a gold glove, and he's shown a lot of growth in his approach. Wood's the type of player that could explode with regular playing time. With Maicer, the same applies as at 2B, he's a great option, but he could be forced to the bench. Don't be surprised if Woody opens lots of eyes and plays 140 games at 3B.
Backup Outfielder: Reggie Willits vs EVERYONE. Reggie's more than likely going to stick with the big league club. He's useful in a role such as this, but given his injury and our relatively unknown depth of talent for the backup OF spots, Reggie could be bumped. Terry Evans has the tools but doesn't have any minor league options left, he's getting his looks this Spring, though not exactly impressing. Michael Ryan is a proven hitter everywhere but the big leagues. He plays infield and outfield and that kind of versatility could land him a spot with the Angels. Cory Aldridge is very similar to Terry Evans, lots of skill, looking for a home. The Soth has proven he has a love affair with inserting Rob Quinlan into odd positions (grow up and stop laughing), he could take the backup OF spot. Finally, Peter Bourjos, he's getting a VERY long look this Spring and he's impressed a lot of folks. He's faster than Willits, younger than Willits, plays better defense than anyone not named Hunter and maybe Hunter, and he's got more pop than Willits. Bourjos could force someone's hand soon. Personally, I think we'll see Quinlan back with the Angels until Willits is healthy again.
Closer: Brian Fuentes vs. the Angels bullpen. Sure Fuentes saved a ton of games last year, but anyone who looks at more than just the saves stat could see that Fuentes was shaky and prone to the long ball. If he finishes a lot of games this season, he will become very expensive next season, will the Angels let that happen? On top of which, something no one is talking about, the Angels don't have a left handed specialist. Fuentes could be that guy. Rodney has closer stuff and experience. Shields has handled the 8th inning better than anyone in baseball the last decade. Jason Bulger came in and saved our tails on multiple occasions last year. Jepson's a closer in waiting and someone else not a lot of people are discussing, Brian Stokes. He looks strong this Spring and could probably close games. I see Fuentes splitting the 9th inning duties. With the lead in the 9th and facing lefties, Fuentes will come in. If the opposition had power hitting righties up next in the order, don't be surprised to see Jepson or Rodney. Bottom line, I don't think Fuentes holds down the closer spot on his own and I don't think he meets his vesting option this season.
Rotation: The weak link vs. Reckling. Reckling put up GREAT numbers in AA as a 19/20 year old last season, he's still 2 or 3 years ahead of the curve and so far this Spring, he's looking like the real deal. He's deceptive, has an average fastball with movement, and a wicked curveball and change up. His numbers may not be great in AAA because of it's HR tendencies, but if Reckling shines in AAA and someone struggles with the big league club, do you think the Soth would make the switch? Spot starts look like they'll go to Matt Palmer, but what happens if Pineiro gets shelled like some think he will? What is Ervin can't settle into his 2008 form? What if Kazmir can't get his new slider or even old slider over? Personally, I don't think it's gonna happen. I think Reckling will spend another 2 years in AAA and our rotation will be as good as any in the game. But Reckling certainly looks like the future of our middle rotation.
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Reggie
Will lose lots of starts cuzz…
…he suckz !
And this Pinata guy………………………….. is a bust.
It's Always Somethin'
I'm guessing Fuentes.
I don’t see him losing the job completely, but if he’s still in his really bad month/really good month pattern, he’s going to lose quite a few opportunities to close games.
I agree...
…but I think it will be for more than just pure performance reasons (read: $$$$). He’s going to have to be so good that Mike will stay up at night feeling guilty not bringing him in.
Don't you think that's been just just a little overblown?
He needs to finish 55 games for that option to vest. While the Angels have tended to get more save opportunities than any other team the last few years, there’s no guarantee that trend will continue.
Last season, outside the last two months, Fuentes WAS our best option out of the pen, so Scioscia had no trouble letting him rack up all those saves. This year’s pen looks much deeper and I wonder if Mike won’t be quicker to pull the plug if Fuentes struggles again (I remember Bulger bailing him out a couple times last season). If Fuentes is pitching good enough to finish all those games, then why not have him back for one last year? Yes, he makes a lot of money, but not so much to tie managements hands. And if he’s pitching well then who cares?
Finally, what actually constitutes a “game finished?” If he gives up a walk off home run, does that count as a tally towards his option?
Yeah I think it would
As long as he is the last pitcher out there, thats a game finished.
by Balls and Strikes on Mar 26, 2010 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Willits
-Lil’ Reggie, Gorgeous, Aldridge, Palmer get sent down
Stoked, T. Evans, Von Ryan stick
Wilson is history
Unless my math is wrong and there is still another spot (and assuming guys like Shields are ready to go Apr.4)
Welcome back HF
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I believe you are correct though I think MMP had a link that had said he was. Can't be sure though.
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by TheAngelsColts on Mar 26, 2010 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Evans is out of options (and Wilson); Willits is not
That, and the injury, are why Willits goes down me thinks
"You been putting it up your whole life. You just didnt know it" Anton Chigurh
That's really weird
that Willits still has options left. So we know he signed to a major league deal, and if he doesn’t make the team due to injury to start the year he’ll get his major league pay. If the team decides to exercise his option this year once he’s healthy, he won’t get paid the contract he agreed to? So basically if the team doesn’t have to pay him his full salary in AAA, they have every incentive to keep Reggie in AAA this year, especially if Ryan/Evans/Aldridge can make the team and provide decent production. Is that right, or am I missing something?
I don't see Palmer being sent down and think that Ryan will be the one instead.
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by TheAngelsColts on Mar 26, 2010 12:22 AM PDT up reply actions
and what about Q?
It was said that Ryan can play infield too(1st?). But Soth will most likely keep the Q train over Von Ryan’s Express.
"You been putting it up your whole life. You just didnt know it" Anton Chigurh
IDK if he can play infield or not but I don't think we will keep someone for that reason because we have plenty of room there.
I am not sure how many pitchers we have on our roster before Pamer if he didn’t go down but I think we will carry 12 catchers into the regular season.
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by TheAngelsColts on Mar 26, 2010 12:45 AM PDT up reply actions
I think 12 catchers is a bit too much
3 maybe 4, I could see at max. :)
Still, Soth might prefer a team solely composed of catchers. It would a toughass team, that’s for sure.
"You been putting it up your whole life. You just didnt know it" Anton Chigurh
You might want to take a look at the current Official Angels Depth Chart
The only extra position players they have listed besides the regular players is Willits, Evans, Pettit, Sandoval, Budde and Wilson. Interestingly Quinlan is not even on the chart. They have Wood as the back up first baseman. No Reckling either.
http://losangeles.angels.mlb.com/team/depth_chart/index.jsp?c_id=ana
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and they have it dated March 25, 2010
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Do we still have Q on the roster?
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by matthiasstephan on Mar 26, 2010 2:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I see the bench players being....
Izzy, Mathis, Quinlan and Aldridge to start the season, with Palmer and Raf Rod in the pen (Assuming Willits and Kaz start the season on the DL). When Willits gets back I think Aldridge will head back down and so will Rafy Rod.
Q`
Why Q? He is worthless and would be a great independent league baseball player. other then that he is a seat warmer for Soth.
Sorry not named after Guerrero...but would be cool
by DAD OF VLAD on Mar 26, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Worthless is a little strong.
Plus, I hear Q makes a delicious lasagna
THen he is marriage Material
But can he hit?
Sorry not named after Guerrero...but would be cool
by DAD OF VLAD on Mar 26, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
He's already married to a hot wife.
Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch
Not to brag...
But I have a hot wife, and I never made it past pinch running and spot starting in semi-pro ball. Not the point, this wouldn’t be my choice, but I think it’s what Miek would choose and normally, I trust the Soth.
Personally, I’d go with Willits (PR, OF), Ryan (PH, 1B, 2B, 3B, OF), Izturis (Roving starts at 3B, SS, 2B, PH, PR), Mathis © on the bench. In the bullpen I’d go with Fuentes, Rodney, Shields, Jepson, Bulger, Stokes and Palmer.
The only thing we’d be lacking is a lefty sspecialist (eventually going to Fuentes) and a power bat off the bench (negated when Izturis is at 3B as Wood would be that bat, and Mike Ryan’s no slouch in the power dept either).
i think
answering a sarcastic reply with serious rundown of stats and reasonings is brave.
by Rev Halofan on Mar 27, 2010 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I am really bad with that....
Sensing sarcasm over the internet I mean….
It wasn’t bravery, it was stupidity lol.
It's cool...
I applaud you for coming back with posts after many (including myself) mocked you at one point.
The whole point of this environment is to live and enjoy Angels baseball. You are a good testament to it.
You didn’t let random internet keyboard jockeys deter you (although I appreciate what MANY here have to say) and you still choose to express yourself despite the crap waved in your face.
If everyone just went with the flow or caved into to social peer pressure, life (or at least internet blog/message board life) would be very fecking boring.
I applaud those who post with great knowledge (usually not me) and those who post with their enthusiasm.
+1
Well said, and received
"You been putting it up your whole life. You just didnt know it" Anton Chigurh
Which?
The part about me not posting with any real knowledge?
:/
alllllll of it
I can particularly relate to “crap” in my face
(hey—I emailed you—wake up!!!)
"You been putting it up your whole life. You just didnt know it" Anton Chigurh
According to baseball-reference
Ryan played 39 games at 2nd base in 2001 (AAA) and one game at 3rd in the majors in 2005. Something tells me corner outfield and first are the only places we’ll see him this year, if at all.
Why do you assume Kazmir will be on the DL when he's scheduled to make his next 2 starts?
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by Commander_Nate on Mar 26, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Just looking at worst case scenario....
I think Kaz will be fine health wise. I’m most worried about his offspeed pitches. He used to have one of the best sliders in the game, then out of nowhere, last year he lost it and he sucked. This year he abandoned that slider altogether and is going with a new one that he hasn’t proven he can get over yet. Until he does, things could be rocky for him.
If Kendrick And Wood are both preforming well...
Izzy, through no fault of his own, will become the new Q around here. Scoscia will play him no matter what; which will cause a firestorm of critisism. HalosHeaven hell to pay, not that that will have any affect on the line-up.
Possible Future Quotes:
“The Pharoe’s daughter must have saved Artie’s child from a basket in the reeds”
" Soth has been engulfed in a Red Sea of stupidity"
“Izzy must have pics of the Pharoe’s snake being swallowed by (Moses’) staff”
(Moses’ name withheld due to legal considerations and not knowing who will be the most maligned Angel at the time. I’m guessing Hatcher.)
Good article Halowood, keep on posting.
Who goofed? I've got to know.
I don't know, if i really needed a hit, I might put up Izzy over Kendrick or Wood.
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IF K & W are BOTH preforming well...
Read the post if you are going to reply to it
Who goofed? I've got to know.
preforming?
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by matthiasstephan on Mar 26, 2010 2:52 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah that's how they form before the game
spelling geeks must be Palmer’s biggest fans…
…Rosey palms
or is that palm?
you should switch – you can be like Tiger – use your feet and you could be like the Rally Monkey
When the pages of your dick tionary stick together, do you buy a new one or do you just ignore those words?
Are you Matthias or Stephan?
Pitcher or catcher?
Sorry to all those who don’t mock spelling or grammer, but I just hate these pricks. They argue points without answering any of the questions. * POLITICAL ALERT* just like Democrats, new liberals, progressives.
Who goofed? I've got to know.
Or, you know, he could be pointing it out since you did it TWICE.
If you don’t like it when people point out your spelling errors, make it easy on yourself and proofread your posts. Either way, coming back with a bunch of ad hominem attacks just makes you look like a douche.
~Till the Halo burns out...
My girls are waking up for school now.
I must go. If you try to challenge me again please remind me of your PREvious disgression.
Goodnight. Goodmorning.
Who goofed? I've got to know.
Challenge you??
It was hardly a challenge. I was simply pointing out your error.
Of course it seems you decided to make that extremely personal.
I said nothing against your comments. You asked no questions (or anything else to respond to), but I did notice the error. Personally, I thought it was a funny thing to note, but I didn’t mean to offend to this degree.
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by matthiasstephan on Mar 26, 2010 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions
I take it hittheg isn't much of a morning person.
My diction and spelling may not be perfect, but if someone notices a slight problem with my posts I don’t go all ape shit douche bag on them either.
YOU DON'T KNOW THE POWER OF THE DARKSIDE.....
Douchebag is one word.
"Precious in the sight of the Lord, is the death of His Saints." - Psalm 116:15 Rest In Peace, Nick.
And you missed the point of his simple response
Even if they ARE performing well, in 44FAN’s opinion Izzy is still the guy you want up in a clutch situation. Sounds pretty reasonable to me.
lol i highly doubt izzy will become the new Q, the guy is too good to be used as rarely as Q
In Kobe we trust!
resond fail
it’s below
Who goofed? I've got to know.
IF K & W are BOTH preforming well...
Read the post before you respond.
Who goofed? I've got to know.
Fuentes.
god willing.
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
What's your basis for saying Mathis is starting to make solid contact?
I know there was that article about Naps and Mathis that mentioned Jeff’s pretty swing, but isn’t he hitting damn near .200 this spring. and this is completely on lone with his shitty, shitty career stats. Nothing has changed in regard to his hitting ability.
The only reason they are competing for the starting for the primary C position is because of Soth’s irrational boner for Mathis based on an unsubstantiated perception that Jeff is some kind of defensive gem. Don’t offer a false justification for the competition.
by snowhor on Mar 26, 2010 8:47 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Purely off of observation
He’s made much better contact this Spring, looks more relaxed and even better defensively.
actually the other day his average was like .225ish...
not sure what it is today but .225 is a huge improvement…
Now stuck in Colorado Springs
by stuck in Romania on Mar 26, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Coaches and commentators have remarked on his improvement in all areas this ST
There was apparently an adjustment made in his swing over the winter.
(Along the lines of “hit the efing ball!” possibly.)
"You been putting it up your whole life. You just didnt know it" Anton Chigurh
Yeah, I've read that shit too.
I’m just pointing out that there’s no evidence in his performance that justifies those reports singing his praises. Until there is, we shouldn’t be repeating it just because some newspaper hack wrote it. We don’t need to give the Soth any more fake reasons for justifying school girl crush on Jeffy.
by snowhor on Mar 26, 2010 2:17 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Technicalities
We all know Scios uses his bench and uses it well so i think the club doesn’t look at it as any one losing their job. It’s also a good question though.
Izzie’s gonna play at both 2nd & 3rd – Howie’s defense better improve and Wood’s gotta produce, but Izzy is playing a lot already. I voted for Willits because of what little he brings to the table, but as much as I hate to see him taking up a spot on the 25-man roster, I’d be more than happy to see him as a DF replacement in the late innnings in LF/RF or as a PR when we needed a run at the end of a game. Napothis/Matholi is gonna catch – neither is going full time, no matter how bad jeff hits or nap’s defense is.
I’m gonna say Q is gone, so it a sense the answer to who’s losing their job. Q is the answer to the Q.
No pitcher will lose a job but injuries may be a factor. I hope the answer isn’t Fuentes but a Shields/Rodney is the 7th/8th is just as important as Tito in the 9th.
So while its a good question to pose, it’s also trivial and just tecnicalities. As far as fans go though, the first heads they’ll likely be howling for are Hatcher’s (after the inevitable hitting slump) or Fuentes (after the inevitable blown save.)
Good point about injuries and rest time required for active roster players.
Fans that write these preview/review fanposts often overlook the need for extra roster players just for this purpose. While the bench players may not be the best performers, they definitely serve a need over the course of the season. These guys always find their way in to a fair share of playing time. In 2009, Izturis had 387 AB compared to 504 AB Aybar and Kendrick 374 AB. Quinlan got 115 AB.
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Soth why keep Willits
Dont let Reggie Start.
If i ever see him on the field i know 3 things:
1) No homeruns from that position today
2) easy 1st to 3rd for the other team if hit to him
3) if he does get on base, caught stolen
Reggie sucks i would rather see other guys get AB’s then him.
Nothing personal but a baseball player needs to hit homeruns, Pitcher Mike Hampton hits them.
Compare Career numbers Willits to Hampton:
Willits – PA: 804 HR: 0
Hampton – PA: 845 HR: 16 (2001 season – PA: 86 HR: 7)
Unless Willits hits 17 more homeruns in 41 plate appearances, i would rather have Mike Hampton play in the outfield.
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Sorry not named after Guerrero...but would be cool
Which begs the question
Would Reggie hit one out if he played a full season in Coors?
Mike Hampton
Not playing for Colorado:
PA: 187 HR: 5
Willits still 0
Sorry not named after Guerrero...but would be cool
by DAD OF VLAD on Mar 26, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
In Addition,
in 2001, mike hampton hit 3 of his 7 homeruns on the road. still alot more then Willits.
Sorry not named after Guerrero...but would be cool
by DAD OF VLAD on Mar 26, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
You'd think he would hit the foul pole
once in his freaking life!
"You been putting it up your whole life. You just didnt know it" Anton Chigurh
IIRC, he had one hit when he was hot in 2008...
…that hit off the top of the right field gate at Anaheim. If it had gone another foot, or 3 feet to the right (into the seats) he would have had his first and only MLB home run.
oh boy he almost hit one!
just kidding. well not really. Not messing with you though
Play Wood already. Willits sucks.
there is two of them
eckstein hit grandslams willits hits bunts
Sorry not named after Guerrero...but would be cool
by DAD OF VLAD on Mar 26, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
The way Willits lays down a bunt gives Soth a Woody.
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and when Woody hits it out
it’’ll give him a Woody woody
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Sorry not named after Guerrero...but would be cool
by DAD OF VLAD on Mar 26, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Considering that Arte is still paying about 90% of GMJ's salary,
and considering that the Mets are already shopping GMJ and we ain’t even out of ST yet, I would say that GMJ is the first Angel to lose his job this season (albeit with the Mets).
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by Stirrups on Mar 26, 2010 5:55 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
My prediction:
Quinlan, he’s due to lose his job at the end of spring training. So seriously, what’s with the Soth’s love affair with Q?
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by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Mar 27, 2010 5:18 PM PDT reply actions
Rodney
And his 12.46 ERA, 15 baserunners in 4 1/3 innings. Yeah, I know it’s just spring training, but that’s his entire Angel career to date. I like the bullpen better when the Angels developed from within. Fuentes, Speier, and Rodney show they don’t know what they’re doing with free agent relievers. Jepsen, Bulger, Shields, Walden, Cassevah, and Stokes would be a fine bullpen. Purge the overpaid!
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