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T.J.Simers

Sunday's LA Time's piece on Garrett Anderson brings out a side some of us thought might be there but GA most always kept inside.  No argument that he is "Mr. Angel".  He is a gifted athlete and makes things look so easy most of us couch potatoes think he might be slacking...but we can't argue GA's numbers or longevity.  Love the comment about having "grass stains" on his pants after the workout!

Imagine, as you read, you hold just about every Angel offensive record and when it [baseball] is all over you want to go back to school to be a model for your kids!  

If he makes the Blue Crew and comes to the Big A...the odds are that he will hit a ground ball to second base...Ok by me.  But I'll stand [as will 44,000 others] to applaud a class act.

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I usually bristle at the puff pieces

But they really gave Anderson his due — it’s a great sketch of a guy.

by rghan on Mar 7, 2010 8:10 AM PST reply actions  

The GA quote that best explains

the reason GA both appeared to not be giving effort and also why he has had such longevity was (to paraphrase), “would you rather see me dive for a ball and get injured and be out for a while, or let a ball drop and be able to stay on the lineup and help with my bat.” Its been a while since I’ve heard it, maybe someone else can find the accurate quote. Anyways, as a lifelong Angels fan I enjoyed GA and am always saddened see a player I watch progress and spend a significant part of their career in Anaheim, but he did frustrate me with his demeanor at times.

by Anaheim71420 on Mar 7, 2010 8:15 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Garret is from LA and this will be his finale if he makes the team

or not. After seeing other players from our championship team leave under harder to swallow circumstances for the fans, I hope he makes the dodgers and outperforms expectations just not in those six games against us.

by Anaheim71420 on Mar 7, 2010 8:30 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I was bummed when they let him go

I was about to buy his jersey, since I finally had enough cash to buy one for the first time in my life. Maybe I’ll custom order one anyway one of these days.

GA, you can borrow my notes from college anytime.

"You gotta have nuts." - Torii Hunter / Part-Time Nemesis of the HH Reply Function

by Commander_Nate on Mar 7, 2010 8:49 AM PST reply actions  

Mr Anderson?

When you were here you made it look easy, Thank you.
You looked so relaxed at bat, thank you
you did your best everyday, thank you
you won us a championship, thank you
you make us lazy people have a role model, thank you

I once told scott boras you were my favorite player becasue you made it look easy,
thank you

Please retire and know when to end it,
thank you

your number one fan

FATHER OF A WONDERFUL SON VLADIMIR
Sorry not named after Guerrero...but would be cool

by DAD OF VLAD on Mar 7, 2010 9:48 AM PST reply actions  

I try to be the G.A. of my own world...

…like a zen master I want to learn how to nevr dive for the pop flies life sends me, saving energy to defeat life’s trouble with my uninjured bat.

by Rev Halofan on Mar 7, 2010 10:33 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

I want that tatoo'd on my body somewhere

"Precious in the sight of the Lord, is the death of His Saints." - Psalm 116:15 Rest In Peace, Nick.

by angels4adam on Mar 7, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

How "un-Simers like"

TJ must have been too lazy to make fun of someone today…

Sad to hear GA says he will just fade away…he and Erstad are 2 guys who should sign one day contracts with the Angels when it is time to hang them up!

Ahhhh...Spring!

by K3YEROUT on Mar 7, 2010 10:41 AM PST reply actions  

Yeah

Like Percival did, but he forgot to retire.

by AngelKeith on Mar 7, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Very good piece, full of plenty keeper quotes

Nice to see an athlete come to terms with his own decline without losing his head. Also, pretty sweet that he’s thinking about going back to college, even if it gives a bad name to us dropouts.

by mattwelch on Mar 7, 2010 11:39 AM PST reply actions  

I love GA, but ...

the Dodgers can SUCK IT! Russell Martin, that fat b*stard just pulled his groin after showing up at camp 20 pounds overweight. Ha! If they don’t finish last, that will only mean that the Padres have completely traded off all their studs. They both suck! Long live the Angels!

Just Another Halo Victory / Rory Markas 1955 - 2010

by LazorkoRules on Mar 7, 2010 12:57 PM PST reply actions  

another reason why GA is my man

Note how frank and self-aware he is about where he is and what the big picture is. In sports we see so many athletes trying to convince themselves that they can be what they once were, and here’s GA being totally honest about where he is, while still having the same desire to continue playing at the highest level. No lame clichés, just telling it like it is, and acknowledging what every fan — love him or hate him — already sees without sugarcoating or BS positive thinking.

by yeswecan on Mar 7, 2010 8:08 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

^ THIS ^

GA is the epitome of PANTHER. I’ll love him, no matter what jersey he happens to be wearing.

"Precious in the sight of the Lord, is the death of His Saints." - Psalm 116:15 Rest In Peace, Nick.

by angels4adam on Mar 7, 2010 11:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Rec'd

Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch

by red floyd on Mar 8, 2010 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I just wished that GA could retire as an Angel.

by phoenix15 on Mar 7, 2010 9:52 PM PST reply actions  

I loved GA as a person...

…no one could ever say otherwise (or explain it).

But he did drive me CRAZY with his non-hustle. We’ve heard all the explanations but it is what it is.

It’s like Vladdy. I LOVED Vladdy but lately his lack of patience given what has happened with his body isn’t an asset anymore. Now I’m not saying ’Zilla will be better (jury still out in my mind) but no matter how much love you have for someone, at some point you need to set them free.

(yeah, my crusade is still not over)

by RedFog on Mar 8, 2010 3:17 AM PST reply actions  

GA's alleged "non-hustle"

“It is what it is.”

Except when it isn’t.

You’re entitled to your opinion, of course, but anyone who actually paid attention to how he played knows that this is a scurrilous and false accusation. GA hustled as much as anyone, yet you and others penalize him because he took smart routes to balls in play and didn’t have to get himself as dirty very often, or because he understood the fact that it’s stupid to dive for a ball you have no chance of catching, only to get injured, while at the same time the ball rolls to the wall while the runner makes his way to third, instead of being held to a single (and no trip to the DL).

by jjackflash on Mar 8, 2010 5:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Since he didn't busted his ass and get close enough and dive for that ball...

…we will never know whether or not he would have caught it, and doubled off that runner trying to advance from first, thus saving the game. And GA will never know either.

And that is, what it is.

"God watches over drunks and third baseman." - the Immortal Leo Durocher, predicting the coming of Brandon Wood...

by Stirrups on Mar 8, 2010 9:12 PM PST up reply actions  

you assume he had a chance at the ball

He would probably disagree with you, which is why he didn’t dive for it in the first place.

I’m glad we got 16 years of .295 hitting instead of 6 due to injury.

by yeswecan on Mar 9, 2010 6:13 AM PST up reply actions  

You assume that he did not. Which is what GA assumed.

Which is why neither we, nor GA, will never know.

By the way, where is this hospital ward full of major league outfielders who ruined their careers by diving on tall, soft, green grass for fly balls? I am not talking about the one that houses those fielders who crashed into walls. No. I want the address of the one filled with pro athletes who failed to survive a running belly flop.

"God watches over drunks and third baseman." - the Immortal Leo Durocher, predicting the coming of Brandon Wood...

by Stirrups on Mar 9, 2010 9:22 AM PST up reply actions  

You exaggerate

but I will offer up Eric Davis (lacerated kidney suffered while diving for a ball).

by jjackflash on Mar 9, 2010 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

OK. You got 1.

When considering the number of outfielders in the number of games across the number of years who dove for baseballs to make plays, and even the number of times that Davis dove for balls in his amateur and pro career, you would not consider the reality of “1” versus untold hundreds of thousands, if not tens of millions, of chances to be somewhat of an exaggeration of the risk in and of itself?

I would submit that the odds are much higher for injury just driving a car to the park. So the injury card is a canard.

"God watches over drunks and third baseman." - the Immortal Leo Durocher, predicting the coming of Brandon Wood...

by Stirrups on Mar 9, 2010 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

You guys wake me up when you get about 996 more incidents over the course of history.

Thanks.

"God watches over drunks and third baseman." - the Immortal Leo Durocher, predicting the coming of Brandon Wood...

by Stirrups on Mar 10, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

That wasn't my point

I didn’t really have one…just throwing it out for him, which is why I didn’t reply to you.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Mar 11, 2010 11:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Got it. Cool.

"God watches over drunks and third baseman." - the Immortal Leo Durocher, predicting the coming of Brandon Wood...

by Stirrups on Mar 19, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I will trust GA's judgment more than yours or mine

His job is to judge whether he can make that play. I’d rather he err on the side of caution, since if he doesn’t make the play it’s an extra-base hit or inside-the-park-HR, plus the risk of injury, plus the accumulation of the bumps and bruises and strains that add up over the years to shorten careers. No dramatic leg-snappings, just long-term wear-and-tear.

by yeswecan on Mar 9, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

If one is willing to allow an athlete - at any level - to define what is possible, then what is the purpose of a coach?

These are pro athletes at the pro level, where big opportunities are at stake in nearly every play. If not at the pro level, where else should we see – with every opportunity – the principals behind aphorisms such as “Go big or go home”, “Fortune favors the bold”, etc.?

We do not expect baserunners to err on the side of caution (hence “going from first to third”). We do not expect batters to err on the side of caution (stand there with the bat stuck to their shoulders). Why do we expect left fielders to err on the side of caution? Ok, sure, maybe a knucklehead such as Manny Ramirez who we know is a lousy fielder, but if GA is such a stellar fielder why do we reserve caution for his play at that position? Early in his career, this should have been a “coaching up” opportunity if there ever was one.

Meanwhile…
Willie Mays: 22 seasons, 3000 games, 11,000 AB’s, 7100 putouts.
Carl Yastrzemski: 23 seasons, 3300 games, 12,000 AB’s, 3941 putouts.
Hank Aaron: 23 seasons, 3300 games, 12,600 AB’s, 5539 putouts.
Dave Winfiled: 21 seasons, 2400 games, 11,000 AB’s, 4975 putouts.
Rickey Henderson: 25 seasons, 2800 games, 11,000 AB’s, 6500 putouts.

The idea that hanging out in a wide open manicured park of perfect grass, with occasional moments of Flying Wallenda, is some kind of inherently risky profession that results in career-shortening wear and tear is a myth invented by apologists. It is a projection based on hope, like “running good routes”, and “saving inside the park home runs”. (Or, I do confess, it is the reality of playing your career on astroturf, which Anderson did not do.) And, of all outfield positions, is not left field considered the easiest? Why would the easiest also be, apparently, the riskiest? After all, nobody worried about all the grass stains Tim Salmon earned for himself in right field.

Each night during the regular season we see daily highlights that include outfielders laying out to make great catches. They happen all the time. Without a plague of injury reports. And without a plague of inside the park home run highlights on that same nightly reel. The reason for the imbalance is because the risk of getting your pants stained is not as high as you are advertising. If it was that high, we would see far more ITPHR’s each night, and far fewer highlight grabs as more fielders played as cautiously as GA to mitigate that risk.

So, using Baseball Tonight as yet another indicator, It is true that we never saw a defensive lapse by Anderson result in an inside the park homer highlight. It is also true that, in nearly 4200 chances, we never saw a Garret Anderson defensive highlight moment on Baseball Tonight either.

If your takeaway from all this is that GA is a master at resource management, I will allow you your opinion. But to suggest that my interpretation of the evidence and my opinion of the result – not to mention what I saw with my own eyes – is some form of “scurrilous and false accusation” is something that will provoke a response from me.

"God watches over drunks and third baseman." - the Immortal Leo Durocher, predicting the coming of Brandon Wood...

by Stirrups on Mar 10, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Ok.

1) It is fundamentally wrong to allow GA to determine what his limits are. ALL athletes need an independent expert to push them to their real limits.

2) It is fundamentally wrong to allow GA alone, as a left fielder alone, to decide to play the game cautiously. The same expectations for effort for all players, in the field, on the bases, at the plate, must be applied to GA in the field.

3) It is fundamentally wrong to assume that playing LF carries an inherent risk of injury. The evidence is overwhelming of other outfielders playing harder, longer, and at least (if not substantially more) successfully without the results GA supporters always fall back on.

3) It is fundamentally wrong to elevate the possibility of extra base hits as an outcome, versus the possibility of making the out should the player commit to making a play on a fly ball. And we see evidence of this in the total outcomes every day.

"God watches over drunks and third baseman." - the Immortal Leo Durocher, predicting the coming of Brandon Wood...

by Stirrups on Mar 11, 2010 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

looks wrong on so many levels...

"All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine."

by Quad Fin Rider on Mar 8, 2010 6:14 PM PST reply actions  

You are right.

That is Just Wrong

Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch

by red floyd on Mar 8, 2010 8:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't know who looks worse in blue

Vlad or Garrett…

Just… Ugly

R.I.P. King Ad-Rock #34

by Seik1177 on Mar 9, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Damn. That’s just not right.

Angels should really consider like a one day contract for Anderson after his MLB career’s over.

by phoenix15 on Mar 10, 2010 7:49 PM PST reply actions  

Brian Giles informed the Dodgers that he's retiring today

This makes it all but a certainty that GA will be wearing Dodger Spew on opening day.

"All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine."

by Quad Fin Rider on Mar 11, 2010 1:46 PM PST reply actions  

I wonder what possessed GA to wear #00 for the Dodgers

Hope his chances of making the team are higher than his number.

by California Cajun on Mar 16, 2010 10:31 AM PDT reply actions  

I heard GA wore 00 cause he wanted a new change, or it represented a new chance (not sure about that). Anyways, i’m gonna clap for GA if/when he comes to the Big A. When GA retires, he needs to sign a one day contract with the Angels to retire an Angel.

by phoenix15 on Mar 21, 2010 9:26 PM PDT reply actions  

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