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OMG 1-4!

Number of times the Angels lost 4 out of 5 games in 2009: 9
Number of games the Angels won in 2009: 97

Number of times the Angels lost 4 out of 5 games in 2008: 7
Number of games the Angels won in 2009: 100

In April 2007 the Angels lost 6 straight games, and 8 out of 9. That team won 94 games.

On April 25, 2009, the Angels were 6-11, 5.5 games out of first place.

On April 18, 2007, the Angels were 6-9, 2.0 games out of first place.

And on April 22, 2002, the Angels were 6-14, 10.5 games out of first place.

Since July 1, 2006, a span of 574 regular season games, the Angels have been playing .602 baseball.

Seattle is 1-4. Boston is 1-3. Mark Teixeira is 0 for 16. Milton Bradley is 1-17, Josh Hamilton 1-11. It's early April.

So vilify the sloppy play, complain about the banishment of Mike Napoli, and if you're at the Big A this weekend please do me a favor and get on Torii Hunter's case good & loud about the lollygagging and fraternizing. But fer crying out loud, mix in a little perspective now and then. You don't really want to end up like L.A. Seitz and scareduck, do you?*

* For you newcomers, this is a good-natured dig at two of our longest-running and most-beloved pessimists.

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Best album
Bandwagonesque
8 votes
#1 Record
16 votes
Band on the Run
39 votes
Blind Faith
16 votes
Cowboy Hymns and Songs of Inspiration
7 votes

86 votes | Poll has closed

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The Teixeira part makes me happy at least

Even if he is habitually slow at every season’s start.

Thanks for that bit.

"That ball went where he threw it!" - Rex Hudler

by Zoe Necrosis on Apr 10, 2010 9:32 AM PDT reply actions  

i like your album selections Welchy...

wouldnt expect some big star and teenage fanclub out of a sports blog….good choices!

oh and i went with #1 Record…flawless except for one track (india song), IMO

Halos & Clips...must have something to do with the color red and jaded pasts...

by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Apr 10, 2010 10:55 AM PDT reply actions  

Seitz is the most incorrigible alt-rocker there is

Rev, I’m sure, is outraged by the lack of L.A. punk or Dylan here, but I hate The Band too much to include them….

by mattwelch on Apr 10, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

don't get me started

on how Robbie Robertson actually RUINED Blonde on Blonde

by Rev Halofan on Apr 10, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heh heh. So it was you who yelled "Judas" lo 40-some years ago.

It ain’t my favorite Dylan by any stretch. But to say Robertson ruined Blonde on Blonde is like saying macaroni ruined mac n cheese. He was constitutive. You either like the main ingredients or you simply dislike the dish.

by Turks Teeth on Apr 10, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

try again

The Robertsons-dominated songs could have made their own blues album – Bob and Rob’s Blues is you will – take out the songs on B&B that have the wack guitar howl and the simplistic blues beat and you have a great album with an original sound.

by Rev Halofan on Apr 10, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Again, you miss the beat.

If you want to talk alternative history, then talk alternative history. But you ain’t talking about Blonde on Blonde.

If you don’t like the disjunction and hybridity of it, you simply don’t like it. That’s fine. I think it’s sort of a mess. But it’s iconic in part precisely for that mess.

by Turks Teeth on Apr 10, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

try it sometime

it is the most awesome string of songs in Bob’s ouvre.
It belongs in the Louvre.
He’d have nothin else to prove
If he had ditched Robbie’s groove

by Rev Halofan on Apr 10, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Robertson

Blonde on Blonde is perhaps my favorite Dylan album. Which songs are the Robbie Robertson-influenced ones, and why specifically do you object to his contributions?

Incidentally, when I was a wee lad, our next-door neighbor was Bruce Langhorne, who supplied Dylan with some great guitar licks (among other things) in his early, acoustic years.

by jjackflash on Apr 12, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Blonde on Blonde is ruined?

I didn’t get the memo.

And, what, no “Shake Some Action” above? That list is incomplete.

Rory Markas. Alex Chilton. 2010, you suck!

by LazorkoRules on Apr 10, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

not ruined

just made less pure with a disc’s worth of B-minus classics mixed in with A-plus sessions.

by Rev Halofan on Apr 10, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

My admiration for The Band begins and ends with Manuel and Hudson.

But that’s enough.

I think The Band was a necessary antidote to the fairy circle of ferny manboys riding unicorns in poets blouses. The stinky beard rock that grew out of their carpet like a dull fungus after the fact might have been every bit as bad, but there was some occasional magic in the pivots away from pan flutes and dashikis.

by Turks Teeth on Apr 10, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Band is actually very good, of course; I just hate them

I much prefer the early ’70s touring band, the one with Mick Ronson….

by mattwelch on Apr 10, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Somewhere, right now

Tori Hunter is turning all singles into doubles on MLB The Show

by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Apr 10, 2010 11:17 AM PDT reply actions  

Torii was terrible lollygagging and allowing that single to be a double last night...

woof. I had no voice last night as I am sick, yet I was yelling at him.

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Apr 10, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Torii looked like he just stopped trying. Those hits could easily have been singles but Torii just took way too much time getting the ball back in the IF. Maybe if the CF was Damon that’s understandable, but Torii has a pretty strong arm.

by phoenix15 on Apr 10, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

i kill with Torii in The Show!!!

got a 2 run and a 3 run homer yesterday over the Twins!!!

The only Dodgers AND Angels fan in SoCal.

by desecrator09 on Apr 10, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well

SO far where 1-4, are offence sucks, or defences sucks and are pitching sucks. its gonna be a long year

by Drizzy23 on Apr 10, 2010 11:24 AM PDT reply actions  

Wow.

Not sure I’ve seen grammar that bad in a while. This guy makes DOV look like a scholar.

Just Another Halo's Victory!

by b0rd3rline on Apr 10, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

and that is hard to do

Sorry not named after Guerrero...but would be cool

by DAD OF VLAD on Apr 10, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Very.

Just Another Halo's Victory!

by b0rd3rline on Apr 10, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Samuel L. Jackson

Has it written into any movie contract that he has to say Motherf*&%^r. He just says it so well.

FREE BRANDON WOOD!

by halofan4life on Apr 10, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Please explain yourself.

There’s got to be a reason for this atrocity.

I'm wearing a "Markas" patch on my sleeve this season.

by Rally Manatee on Apr 11, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Five fielding errors over five games. Three of them just last night.

That is unusual for the Angels. Howie Kendrick is the leader with two. No wonder Soth said in the paper this morning, " If we were playing a AAA team last night, they would have beat us."

The 2009 Pregame Picks Winner and Iron Man of Halos Heaven.com

by 44FAN on Apr 10, 2010 11:38 AM PDT reply actions  

Kendrick was horrendous with the glove in St as well.

is he using a new glove this year? Get the old one back, he was doing fairly well last year defensively. We may have to have a “Designated Fielder” position created to facilitate Howie’s shoddy defense.

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Apr 10, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

We did play a AAA team. The As don’t have a very good offense. Palmer just left fastballs right in the batter’s wheelhouses

by phoenix15 on Apr 10, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Early April means wacky numbers

One of the oddest numbers the Angels have compiled is the pitching staff’s HR/FB ratio. It is currently at a MLB worst 25.6%. That’s wacky! It means a QUARTER of the flyballs the Angels pitching staff has surrendered has left the park. How absurd is this number?

To put some perspective, in 2009 the AL staff with the best ratio was Oakland at 9.2%. The worst? The Orioles and the Blue Jays at 11.6%. In 2008 the best was again Oakland at 8% (Royals were next best at 9.2%) and the worst were the Orioles at 10.7%.

So what’s my point? The normal ratio of flyballs leaving the park for a HR is 10%. Check out the numbers. It doesn’t matter how good or bad the pitching staff is, the HR/FB ratio is remarkably consistent for pitching staffs right across the board.

2008

2009

It’s still way too early to read too much into the numbers, but at least at this point the Angels’ AL worst ERA is due largely to their out-of-the-ordinary HR/FB ratio.

Playoffs???? Don’t talk about — playoffs? You kidding me? Playoffs? I just hope we can win a game!

by Fan Since 1981 on Apr 10, 2010 11:52 AM PDT reply actions  

The only time over the last 5-6 years I "panicked" early was 2006...

…and even then the “panic” didn’t start until late May. That was the year of Steve Finley and Jeff Weaver.

For any early panickers out there, recall the start the Yankees had last year. They were HORRIBLE for the first month.

The Angels have a talented team.
They have the best manager in baseball.
They have the best owner in baseball.
It’s a really long season.

by sothball on Apr 10, 2010 12:06 PM PDT reply actions  

I would put more emphasis on "It's a really long season"

Some poeple just don’t seem to get it.

FREE BRANDON WOOD!

by halofan4life on Apr 10, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whoops.

I confused Finley with the more worthless Edgardo Alphonso experiment.

by sothball on Apr 10, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

And besides,
if the Angels could’ve come back to win the Wild card in 02 when the AL West was actually a challenge, im sure they can come back in 10.

by phoenix15 on Apr 10, 2010 12:11 PM PDT reply actions  

The things I'm really worried about

Wood IMO is not going to turn it around. The guy looks like he’s swinging like the way Torii runs after gappers….. 80%. He’s not going to hit for power unless he’s swinging hard but to me it honestly look like he’s out there with his nephews on a lazy Sunday just hitting wiffle balls out to them.

The other thing I’m worried about is the OF defense which in turn means the runs the Angels are going to allow. I know Rivera has good defensive metrics but the guy is SLOW, Torii is nowhere near the defender he used to be, and Bobby is a step or two slower along with his GA laziness (I mean stay off the DL) disease. And when Matsui is out there, he is the slowest of all of them.

Combine this with most of the Angels hitters being focused or at least willing to go the opposite way before they have two strikes on them….. and yea I’m a bit worried.

by MH252525 on Apr 10, 2010 1:30 PM PDT reply actions  

A true Angels apologist's response to a terrible start.

I agree, it’s early, there’s no reason to panic (yet), but red flags should be popping up all around.

This is the worst start for the Angels since 1992.

by shiftyeyedgoat on Apr 10, 2010 1:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Well, to combine the thread with the POLL......I say

“I Can’t find my way Home”!

One of the greatest songs EVER – unfortunately I am betting that 4 of 5 posters on this board are too young to even know Blind Faith.

Still – “Somebody must change”…….“Somebody holds the key”……..and it probably isn’t going to be Wood – unfortunately…………

But I can’t find my way home……….

by SocalAngelFaninOC on Apr 10, 2010 2:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Weav showing us the way home

Agreed: great band, great album—best of Cream and Traffic

"You been putting it up your whole life. You just didnt know it" Anton Chigurh

by Raaddad on Apr 10, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Picking cherries for the taste.

Nothing wrong with that. It ain’t science. It’s largely anti-skeptical. And there’s a point where all this pattern detection becomes more fetish than “perspective”. Conspiracy theorists and the Rev’s much-abused astrologers are patternistas as well.

One could paint the opposite picture by looking at the dearth of four-game losing streaks in 2009 instead of the abundance of 4-of-5 loss clusters. Neither picture being too representative.

If there’s a darkness to fear, it’s in the age and relative immobility of our outfield, in the fragility of the rotation, and in the lack of depth at AA and AAA. Not in any small sample numerical alignments.

But I’m repeating myself — and that’s verging on house rules abuse.

by Turks Teeth on Apr 10, 2010 2:26 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

The perspective is the past six years, which is a fucking king-size bowl of cherries

Five games in April have never meant nuthin, is all my numerology is claiming to say.

The reality (in my opinion) is that this team is not significantly worse, nor more vulnerable, than any of our recent teams, and in fact has more power than all of them, a higher likelihood for multiple breakout seasons, and a deeper rotation, too. You see the reality differently, while worrying about the same stuff I do. Let’s play ball!

by mattwelch on Apr 10, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

And poll was tough.

If it was Third/Sister Lovers or the bootleg Linda McCartney soundboard tape, it would have been so much easier.

I went with #1 Record just on the strength of Ballad of El Goodo alone.

by Turks Teeth on Apr 10, 2010 2:41 PM PDT reply actions  

There is a fantastic Loud Family album called ...

“The Tape of Only Linda’ named in honor of the above tape.

Loud Family is sort of a latter day Big Star.

Rory Markas. Alex Chilton. 2010, you suck!

by LazorkoRules on Apr 10, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Latter Day Big Star

So is Teenage Fanclub. So are the Posies. So are about 100 other bands.

by LA Seitz on Apr 10, 2010 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I never travel far

without a little Big Star.

Oh!

Rory Markas. Alex Chilton. 2010, you suck!

by LazorkoRules on Apr 10, 2010 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

while I agree...

…if they lose tonight they are in dead last. Of course it’s early but having to climb back over everyone isn’t a recipe for success either.

by RedFog on Apr 10, 2010 3:42 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Meh, as mw points out they had to do it

In 2009, 2008, 2007, 2006 (even if they ultimately finished second anyway, they were in first for a few days after being in last), just to name a few…

RIP Nick Adenhart.

"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5

by Clutch on Apr 10, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

But, still,

If this continues for another week, I’ll be really worried.

RIP Nick Adenhart.

"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5

by Clutch on Apr 10, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

But just supposing this is the way it's going to go--

Than what?
(I like to think of the worst case scenario so I can stock up on the right beverages, medicines,recreationals, and sexbots before it’s too late)

"You been putting it up your whole life. You just didnt know it" Anton Chigurh

by Raaddad on Apr 10, 2010 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha, sexbots.

RIP Nick Adenhart.

"When the Babe tries to call his shot, I hope Nick puts one in his ear."
--RallyMonkey5

by Clutch on Apr 10, 2010 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I gotta be honest.

I don’t see how anyone can be pessimistic about the Angels, unless they’re sitting at a .500 record with two weeks left in the season.

by ThundaPC on Apr 10, 2010 6:08 PM PDT reply actions  

In my own defense

I was probably drunk when I wrote that.

Also, I had #1 Record as my 20th favorite album of all time a couple years ago, while Bandwagonesque was a curious omission from my top 40. So I guess I’d have to go with #1 Record, but I’d take Teenage Fanclub’s full catalog. Thirteen and Howdy! are both really great albums.

by LA Seitz on Apr 10, 2010 7:07 PM PDT reply actions  

I made a TFC reference about five years ago on my blog

I was listening to them on the red line on the way home from a Sox-Angels game at the Cell. Matt linked to that post on his own blog, and I’m pretty sure that’s why he mentioned it. I can’t believe that a) he, and b) I both still remember that.

by LA Seitz on Apr 10, 2010 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't remember that

I was just referencing “Bandwagonesque” because that’s how I feel about some Angel fans when the going gets mildly challenging.

Your filthy alt-music habits, of course, are legendary.

by mattwelch on Apr 11, 2010 4:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not really...

2-5 = winning % of .286.
1-4 = winning % of .200.

.086 difference in winning percentage is usually the difference between finishing 1st and…somewhere down the pack (3rd or 4th place).

Just saying…

by sothball on Apr 12, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

small sample size

just saying…

:P

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Apr 12, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe the slow atart will thin out the game thread crowd

hard to have any back and forth. Although the exchnage between HK47 and b0rderline was a welcome distraction.

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.

by Moondoggy on Apr 12, 2010 1:31 AM PDT reply actions  

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