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How Long will the Angels Continue with Scot Shields?


Scot Shields is the only player remaining from the 2002 World Series team.

 

He's been one of the best set-up man in the game.

 

But is it time to part ways with Scot Shields?

 

He is 0-1 this season with a 7.71 ERA in 12 Games. YES its still early, but he is coming off a season-ending surgery from last season and every time he has came in this year, he really hasn't had an easy inning. He has looked better in his last few appearances, but he turns 35 in July and starting to age. The Angels Bullpen has been a dissapointment so far this year.

 

But should the Angels maybe trade him at the deadline if he continues to struggle?

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Until Hell freezes over

It is the last survivor of 2002

LONG LIVE SCOT SHIELDS
(Scot with one “t” forever)

"Fundamentals are a crutch for the talentless" - Kenny Powers

by DAD OF VLAD on May 8, 2010 11:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Man, People need to chill out...

We have lost a few games and some guys have played pretty crappy but it is NOT time to scrap the team and start over. Calm down and stop trying to “fix” the team. This is baseball, just relax and let the season roll. Things will get better. Averages work themselves out and we’ll be alright.

by Balls and Strikes on May 8, 2010 11:28 PM PDT reply actions  

ya but we really need him to be effective in our bullpen. He has looked good tho in this last few appearances but if we didn’t have Rodney then our bullpen would be more of a mess. Its already surprisingly been one month this year. and i do think this angel team will turn it around we just need our bullpen to be on top of their game

by Angelfan27 on May 8, 2010 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately

at this time there is nobody to replace him. So lets root for him and hope he pulls it together.

by ryanfea on May 8, 2010 11:37 PM PDT reply actions  

yup and i doubt nobody would want to trade for him

by Angelfan27 on May 8, 2010 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I quite agree.

Who are these arseholes who reply to every frickin’ gratuitous comment. I mean, really!

Rory Markas. Alex Chilton. 2010, you suck!

by LazorkoRules on May 9, 2010 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or worse...

…they reply to the repliers!

by RedFog on May 9, 2010 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or sometimes...

…just reply to their own posts. A-holes.

by RedFog on May 9, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shields is worth keeping, because if he figures it all out....

It changes the entire dynamic of the pen. Having Jepson and Rodney in the 7th and 8th is a luxury. If you add Shields to that mix, all of a sudden, we have a pretty solid pen. Bulger is returning to form too, add him to the equation then all of a sudden we have a GREAT bullpen. If the Angels get smart and promote Michael Kohn, and Shields and Bulger figure it out, then we probably have the best bullpen in baseball.

In short, yes, the Angels should stick with Shields, because I’d say there a 50% chance he returns to form.

"He’s not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with, obviously." -Theo Epstein talking about Jon Papelbon.

"OMG, I think I'm gonna barf!" Halowood's reaction to Fuentes facing a Right Handed Batter.

by Halowood on May 8, 2010 11:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Your opinions will not be valid

until you learn to spell “Jepsen” correctly.

by BrownLunchSack on May 9, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

NEVER!

"He’s not a Rhodes Scholar to begin with, obviously." -Theo Epstein talking about Jon Papelbon.

"OMG, I think I'm gonna barf!" Halowood's reaction to Fuentes facing a Right Handed Batter.

by Halowood on May 9, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jespen is another common one...

Rhymes with the name of Cloud City in Empire Strikes Back … Bespin.

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on May 10, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

nerd

but it take one to know one

"Fundamentals are a crutch for the talentless" - Kenny Powers

by DAD OF VLAD on May 10, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not yet

Isn’t he in the last year of his contract?

Traditionally, from ‘08 and before, he was the go-to guy before Frankie. There was a year or more of Donnelly, some with Cousin Oliver, but there was 3 years of Scot being used extensively. Gubi mentioned it last night or tonight that he used to get a ton of innings. He had the rubber arm, and he needed the action to keep him consistent. After his injury, he’s been used too infrequently, and unfortunately, his mechanics fall out of whack. You can’t the deny the stuff—despite the age, his 91-92 has wicked movement. There was a night last week where he couldnt locate the FB, and instead, dropped four straight gorgeous curveballs for strikes. His last outing was pretty decent and he attacked the hitters with FB’s that landed for strikes.

I think he’s starting to come back into it. If we can keep him active and avoid the July/August burnout (there was no one else), we could potentially have an amazingly deep bullpen. So, no, it’s not time to give up. Age has nothing to do with it in this case. He’s still younger than when we continually resigned Oliver for a few years…

The results will come.

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by feNOMINAL on May 8, 2010 11:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Crazy idea

But if what Shields needs is to get more frequent work, maybe try him as a starter a few times? He can take Saunders’ spot. He was pretty promising as a starter in 2003 before the Angels decided he was more valuable in the pen.

Yeah, it sounds crazy, but what have we got to lose? If he’s not getting enough work in the pen to get his form there, it would be a potential way of finding some value for him. And if it doesn’t work, we can go back to Saunders, the control pitcher who doesn’t throw strikes, or to Trevor Bell.

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by RallyMonkey5 on May 9, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

what he said

These morons have been watching 2012. It’s the apocalypse!

NA, #34 SP, LAA
Light up the Halo for Nick!

More Howie please...

by hk47 on May 9, 2010 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's too bad he is the only remaining member of the 02 team.

   One thing that I like about the Skankees, is how they have stuck by some of their key stars, and they still have several guys from their world series teams of the 90’s. Now that is cool. I wish the Angel’s FO would learn from that.

by Wally's World on May 9, 2010 3:24 AM PDT reply actions  

Are you joking??

This is highly ironic. The Yankees tore apart their championship teams ofthe late 1990s. They replaced their most popular players like Paul O’Neill, Scott Brosius, and other Yankees I don’t remember with the most expensive free agents. They have continued to do just that. The fact that they often sign players to 8, 9, and 10-year contracts so that they can get the best free agents does not make them loyal. It means that they have the most money.

by Brody on May 9, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

uh, they still have 4 players. What do you mean am I joking?

  Irony? It’s not as if the Angels couldn’t afford to keep players, they just choose not to.

by Wally's World on May 10, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

So they have four players

One of those players, Any Pettite, was let go four years after the World Series, so the Yankees could sign Javier Vazquez. Does that make them loyal? A year ago they had three players left from their World Series team, which, by the way, is the same number we had left a year ago from our World Series team.

The fact is that the Yankees have far greater resources than the Angels (or any other team) do. That is why their payroll is nearly $100 million higher than ours. The fact also is that the Yankees are the least sentimental team in baseball. They retain players only when it is in their interest to do so (i.e., because there is no one better to replace that player on the free agent market). The Angels do the same thing, except sometimes they would like to keep a player (for example, Lackey or Teixeira), but their budget restrictions make it not possible. This is the case for every other team except the Yankees (see, e.g., Pedro Martinez and Johnny Damon of the Red Sox).

by Brody on May 11, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Timing

What I don’t understand is why this Fan Post appears a week after Shields last gave up a run. He has had three straight scoreless appearances. It’s not as if he just gave up another walkoff HR. So whoever posted this has been sitting around for a week contemplating this, and has reached this conclusion just at a time when, perhaps (we’ll see), Shields is finally straightening things out.

by jjackflash on May 9, 2010 9:16 AM PDT reply actions  

look, maybe if you would read the fanpost you would see that i said “He has looked better in his last few appearances”. And well i guess your right he hasn’t given up a homerun in a week and has pitched 3 scoreless innings. Well i guess the problem is solved and he’s back to normal. Wow

by Angelfan27 on May 9, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Timing

Once again, the subject header was “timing.” Why now? When the question is whether it is time to get rid of a guy, what makes someone sit around and come up with this idea when the most recent evidence suggests that maybe he’s starting to make some progress?

by jjackflash on May 9, 2010 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I rather take Shields
then Stokes.

by phoenix15 on May 9, 2010 4:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Trade Shields for WHAT exactly?

I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....

by PhiSlamma on May 9, 2010 9:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Granderson's Jockstrap

"Fundamentals are a crutch for the talentless" - Kenny Powers

by DAD OF VLAD on May 10, 2010 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

This might happen eventually, but not for a while

There is so much right now that we don’t know when it comes to Shields. Is the guy fully recovered from his injuries? Last year he sucked, but then we learned later that he was hurt and that he was playing through an injury.

Sometimes it will take a player some time to come back from an injury. I am sure that there was a discussion with Scioscia, Shields and possibly the trainers, about whether he would benefit more from a rehab assignment or staying with the big club. They decided to let him work out there.

If Shields, in fact feels great and still pitching lousy, than that might be more of a problem. But, if you look at Shields’ upside its huge. This guy is a proven performer who has contributed big time to our success and if he’s right, can probably contribute again. For that reason, it would be stupid to just give up on him.

That said, will the team show indefinite patience with him? Doubtful. What’s more likely is that if he’s still struggling in a month, they will put him on the DL and then stick him on a rehab assignment in the hopes of getting him right. If he’s still sucking, then maybe he could get released. But, I think that this is something that wouldn’t happen for a few months at the earliest. What’s more likely is that Shields gets put on the DL for an extended period, in the hopes that he could come back by the end of the season.

by righteous halo on May 10, 2010 1:08 PM PDT reply actions  

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