Angels Pen Fails Jered Weaver Again
by Rev Halofan on Jun 25, 2010 11:13 PM PDT
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PrintFinal Score in Anaheim: Rockies 4, Angels 3 (in 11 innings)
Jered Weaver had 11 strikeouts and the lead but the bullpen assembled for millions choked. While Darren Oliver makes $4 million this season as a nails arm in the pen of the Texas Cakewalkers defeat AA teams while his manager is doing lines of cocaine, Fernando Rodney gives up a run late in a winnable game in front of his sober manager for over $10 million this season and next. While Francisco Rodriguez is helping the Mets hang on in the NL East, Francisco Rodriguez is proving to be a rookie the league has caught up to.
The Angels bats were not exactly silent, but a little ore life might have gone a long way. For some reason, Mike Scioscia left Hideki Matsui on the bench with runners on 1st and 3rd and 2 outs in the bottom of the 11th. With the Angels down by a run, he put the entire game into the hands of Jeff Mathis.
And for the fourth time this season, a depressing series of decisions costs Ace Weaver the win.
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I've seen enough, give Kohn a chance...this bullpen sucks!
by K3YEROUT on Jun 25, 2010 11:16 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
If I'm Scioscia I'm bringing up a different pitcher every week for a tryout...
at this point I see no reason not to.
Couldn't be worse
then the rag tag pieces of crap were letting pitch now
Torii Hunter has some Brain Movage
My Kingdom for some consistant relief pitching
That blew. Offense wasn’t very good either.
Free Brandon Wood! (wait a minute, that was last year).
Angel Pitching, Angel Defense - get past that.
by vladtheimpaler on Jun 25, 2010 11:23 PM PDT reply actions
Free Kohn!
Angel Pitching, Angel Defense - get past that.
by vladtheimpaler on Jun 25, 2010 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions
It has to be Rodriguez
he did everything Rodney did…except unlike Rodney, the runner that scored the run was HIS baserunner. Rodney at least can use the excuse that Abreu let a runner reach.
Rodriguez got two quick outs and then folded faster than Superman on laundry day (bonus for those who get that reference without Google). He nibbled around slap hitters, rather than going after them, fell behind, and got burned by his own retardation.
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Jun 25, 2010 11:25 PM PDT reply actions
Seriously, he probably would've been better off just throwing pitches right down the middle and crossing his fingers.
The way he was pitching some of those guys, you would think he was pitching to Pujols
Folks, Roenicke moves the OF around...
Abrew plays deep. Period. He had no shot to catch that grenade.
by K3YEROUT on Jun 26, 2010 9:54 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Just because he DOES play deep
doesn’t mean he should.
That ball wasn’t even a flare shot. It was a pop-up. It NEEDS to be caught.
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Jun 26, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Rodney.
His peripherals suck. Perhaps it’s true that he really is good AS A CLOSer, but try convincing sosh that. As a regular reliever he just plain blows. Notice his WAR is in the negative.
On the topic of WAR; a comparison of previous Angel set-up reliever WAR values
Percival (1995): 2.5 (Recall that Lee Smith was closing that year)
Shields (2004): 2.4
Shields (2005): 2.7
Shields (2006): 2.0
Oliver (2009): 1.5
Rodney (2010): -0.1
Rodney’s career best WAR of 0.7 was achieved twice (in 2006 and 2007).
by Fan Since 1981 on Jun 26, 2010 7:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Holdup, maybe I'm missing something.
There are discrepancies between WAR values at FanGraphs and Baseball-Reference
A further investigation into their respective methodologies will probably uncover why they arrive at different WAR values. At least in the case of Rodney’s 2010 performance, the difference is fairly material.
by Fan Since 1981 on Jun 26, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
It's quite a difference.
He’d go from replaceable to worthwhile depending on those methodologies. Who’s going to solve this dilemma?
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Is Woody's suckfest still in town?
Thank God Aybar is finally back!
Let the Halo power flow
by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Jun 25, 2010 11:37 PM PDT reply actions
Yeah this loss blows
But if the team wins the next two then it’s SLIGHTLY excusable since we won the series. Not a sweep but a series win.
Where do we send your compensation checks?
Also, be sure to submit your resume to Arte…. you obviously know more than Reagins.
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Jun 26, 2010 12:51 AM PDT up reply actions
It's true.
We don’t need to be a GM to look up public info.
by Wally's World on Jun 26, 2010 1:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Hold the phone Batman!
Rockin’ Rod is making $5.5M this year, as I recall. $11M over this season and the next.
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Certainly.
The Devil went down to Georgia, and all I got was this gold fiddle. Go Angels! helpfindscottajob@gmail.com
We definitely don't need Rodney for two years, let alone one.
That guy seems to always let his inherited runners score, and he still gets by scot-free with his relatively low ERA. We should trade him or something; get a pitcher who isn’t as wild.
He's at 50%. Was at 13% last year.
8 inherited runners, 4 scored. It just seems like there have been more…
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Maybe the runners score
because he pitches exactly like K-Rod. Wild, walks people, but as a closer, somehow always got the job done.
Perhaps he's just better at starting an inning?
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Just to make a bad OF worse...
According to Baseball Info Solutions, Hunter is the worst center fielder in baseball, at minus-15. The best is the San Diego Padres’ Tony Gwynn, Jr. (plus-11). That doesn’t quite mesh with what the Angels feel like they’re seeing out of their veteran center fielder.
I've noticed Hunter's decline in the last year or so
but with the way sabermetrics invariably seem to ALWAYS come to the conclusion that ‘sacred cows’ are the worst at whatever their position, I sometimes have to wonder whether or not their methodology isn’t adjusted to meet their statistical goals.
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Jun 26, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
i see both sides
Torii has never been the same in the field since hitting the wall in San Francisco.
But defensive metrics are such an inexact science for even the hair-splitting inanity of current “edge” statcore research that to take them seriously enough to cite them is to confess to being a follower of an invisible force of nature to which we must give over our reason in the name of faith.
turn the page....
sigh
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 26, 2010 2:32 PM PDT reply actions
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