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Probably a stupid question, but...




... is there a scenario under which we could get Chone Figgins back without paying more than we think he's worth?

He seems absolutely miserable with Seattle. The Mariners fans (and most likely coaches/front office) are very unhappy with his performance. If our coaching staff thinks his slump is due to:

 not hitting leadoff, not playing 3rd, and missing the Angels organization/coaches/players -

 is there a way to "undo" his deal? Chone would have to give up some $$, but watching him this past series, it seems like a possibility both he and the Mariners would consider.

We could certainly use a leadoff hitter and a 3rd baseman, assuming returning home to Anaheim helps solve the problems he's having now.

Based only on my personal opinion and nothing that has any connection to reality, I think his absence has affected the team more than any of the other free agents who left. He used to compete with Bobby for stolen bases, smack Aybar if he made a poor play - who knows how much clubhouse chemistry he took with him?

Sigh.

Come back, Chone!

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Hey that is a great idea

We need more OLD PEOPLE. What a STUPID idea

"Fundamentals are a crutch for the talentless" - Kenny Powers

by DAD OF VLAD on Jul 20, 2010 9:26 AM PDT reply actions  

come on dude, don't be a jerk

NA, #34 SP, LAA
Light up the Halo for Nick!

More Howie please...

by hk47 on Jul 20, 2010 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I know that's hard for you

NA, #34 SP, LAA
Light up the Halo for Nick!

More Howie please...

by hk47 on Jul 20, 2010 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

OH so sorry

i never knew my dad and my mom does not love me
give me a break

"Fundamentals are a crutch for the talentless" - Kenny Powers

by DAD OF VLAD on Jul 20, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well,

I warned you in the title.

"The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self-awareness." - Annie Savoy

by raskul on Jul 20, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

"I see old people...."

Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch

by red floyd on Jul 20, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

is it ok if i am on your Lawn?

"Fundamentals are a crutch for the talentless" - Kenny Powers

by DAD OF VLAD on Jul 20, 2010 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chone does seem miserable

Switching Lopez and Figgins defensively made no sense, as Lopez is better at 2B and Figgins better at 3B. ESPN the Mag reported this week that people around the league have wondered why the Ms did that.

Nevertheless, I don’t think the Angels want him back, as poorly as he is hitting. Looks like they let him walk at the right time.

They were right to let Lackey and Figgins go. Wrong to let Vlad go, in retrospect.

NA, #34 SP, LAA
Light up the Halo for Nick!

More Howie please...

by hk47 on Jul 20, 2010 9:30 AM PDT reply actions  

It almost seems like

the intellectually superior M’s figured one guy LOOKED like a third baseman and the other LOOKED like a second baseman and left it at that.

by dmhead on Jul 20, 2010 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I seem to recall many people here (myself included) wondering the same thing.

The general opinion was “Never interrupt your enemy when he is in the process of making a mistake”.

Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch

by red floyd on Jul 20, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

As cool as it would be to see Figgy in a Halo uniform again

I think the Angels are gonna be moving in a different direction at 3B. I think Frandsen/Izzy will be permanent fixtures at the hot corner.

Torii Hunter has some Brain Movage

by ryanfea on Jul 20, 2010 9:34 AM PDT reply actions  

Seriously?

If those two are still “fixtures” at third next season, I think I’m done.

by dmhead on Jul 20, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why?

Other than injuries, Izzy has been great for us. Frandsen has played well himself. There is nobody that is substantially better entering free agency and we don’t have the prospects to acquire anyone else.

Torii Hunter has some Brain Movage

by ryanfea on Jul 20, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Other than injuries...

Isn’t that what we say about Izzy every year? It is fully established that he is one of the best bench men in the game, but he can’t keep his ass on the field long enough to ever be considered a full time starter.

Frandsen has been a nice surprise and helped stop the bleeding at third base this season. He also has zero power and pretty weak on base skills. Again, as a bench player and fill in he works for us, but he is no permanent fixture at any position.

So what do we do? Compete with the Sux and Boras for Beltre? No thanks. Reagins is going to have to get creative and find a solution to our third base woes. I wish I had a better answer for you, but what we have right now simply isn’t good enough.

by dmhead on Jul 20, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Frandsen's on-base skills really aren't that bad.

For a guy that never strikes out. Seriously, the guy has the lowest K rate in baseball. 6 Ks in 140 plate appearances — 4 friggin’ %. He has three more walks than strikeouts.

He’s an ideal two-hole contact hitter who is simply playing out of position. He’s a natural 2B, and he’s arguably having a better season than Howie Kendrick.

by Turks Teeth on Jul 21, 2010 4:29 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Napoli

"jut keep winning babt" - Moondoggy

by Rally Manatee on Jul 21, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

George and I agree on something!

Maicer works well as a superutility man. As a starter…Although who are viable in-house options in 2011?

He travels fastest who travels alone.

by Kingfish1 on Jul 20, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

That may be the Callaspo strategy

His first year of arb is 2011, and doesn’t hit free agency until 2014. That would give the Angels a reasonably inexpensive superutility player for the next several years, one who could spell/replace Kendrick, Aybar or Mr 3B at any time during the season. Kendrick takes an inside pitch off the pinky finger? Aybar gets messed up turning a double play? Callaspo could step in for either, just as Maicer does.

The Angels bought out Maicer’s arb years and he’s signed through 2012, but Callaspo would give Scioscia just the very sort of player he treasures. Think of him as a ruggedized Izturis brother.

"I can't tell people what to think or not to think. Their perceptions are their perceptions. We just feel we've taken a step forward. At the end of the day, we have to play 162 games. Once that happens then we'll be able to evaluate the offseason moves."~Tony Reagins, on the Angels' offseason

by George Kaplan on Jul 20, 2010 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess with Morales returning next year

(And hopefully recovered and ready to go) the Angels don’t need quite the same power in the infield, seeing as though they’re not going to get much from Kendrick or Aybar. After McAnulty and Aldridge, the need for depth hasn’t been this apparent on the Halos roster in years.

He travels fastest who travels alone.

by Kingfish1 on Jul 20, 2010 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think this is the first time since Arte became owner

…that the Angels’ bench featured walk-ons. One almost thought Aldredge and McAnulty were the winners of a “Be a Big League Ballplayer” contest from Wheaties.

"I can't tell people what to think or not to think. Their perceptions are their perceptions. We just feel we've taken a step forward. At the end of the day, we have to play 162 games. Once that happens then we'll be able to evaluate the offseason moves."~Tony Reagins, on the Angels' offseason

by George Kaplan on Jul 21, 2010 2:21 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Other than the head injury… …Mr Lincoln thoroughly enjoyed "Our American Cousin".

I bow to you sir

by agent_99 on Jul 21, 2010 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you

I’m having a Clearance Sale on little nuggets of information crammed into my head over the years. Everything must go, we’re blowing it out to the bare walls.

"I can't tell people what to think or not to think. Their perceptions are their perceptions. We just feel we've taken a step forward. At the end of the day, we have to play 162 games. Once that happens then we'll be able to evaluate the offseason moves."~Tony Reagins, on the Angels' offseason

by George Kaplan on Jul 22, 2010 3:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

No way

Some kind of permanent solution is needed. The list of MLB free agents at 3rd this winter is pretty thin, so if we got that route, we’ll need to hurry up. Other than that, we may need to look overseas.

"You gotta have nuts." / "Coming Around 3rd, especially if I'm ticked off, that's going to happen." - Torii Hunter

by Commander_Nate on Jul 20, 2010 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

*go that route.

"You gotta have nuts." / "Coming Around 3rd, especially if I'm ticked off, that's going to happen." - Torii Hunter

by Commander_Nate on Jul 20, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

if by fixtures you mean our improved utility/bench players, then yes

our biggest weakness this season is depth. I expect the team to find a permanent third baseman and have izzy and frandsen become our productive bench players…they are not the type of guys championship teams play everyday.

Morales will be back and instead of playing guys like aldridge, mcanulty and wood everytime someone gets hurt, we’ll plug in izzy and frandsen and be better because of it. Wood is obviously buried on the depth chart if not left off the roster altogether.

RIP Nick Adenhart

by ihearhowie2.0 on Jul 20, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

How about this crazy idea

This year we have witnessed Napoli convert himself into a first baseman almost seamlessly, with basically zero preparation. Is it too far out there to suggest that with a full spring training under the guidance of Alfredo Griffin that he could possibly move across the diamond and finally give us that power bat at third?

by dmhead on Jul 20, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well of course

But what about Brandon Inge? Yes, he’s more athletic than our boy Nappy, but he converted himself from average catcher to excellent third baseman. If Naps could simply be average, or even below average, his bat plays there. And it’s not as if he’s been a statue at first – the man has shown some range. I realize I’m reaching here, but we’ve seen stranger defensive alignments on this team.

by dmhead on Jul 21, 2010 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Inge is a free agent this winter

One of the few on the list of available 3B that would even be worth considering.

"You gotta have nuts." / "Coming Around 3rd, especially if I'm ticked off, that's going to happen." - Torii Hunter

by Commander_Nate on Jul 22, 2010 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not a case of location

Chone Figgins is putting together one of the worst seasons in baseball history form a player making $9 million avg per season. Chone Figgins is signed to four more seasons after this one. Chone Figgins is not the answer in Anaheim. Chne Figgins is finished.

by Rev Halofan on Jul 20, 2010 9:38 AM PDT reply actions  

I understand what you're saying.

I mean, what could be the reason(s) for Chone’s poor performance? Last season he put together very good numbers, and his type of play exemplifies ‘Angels style’ baseball, so, it makes sense that perhaps he’s just that unhappy with where he now finds himself, and quite possibly realizes what he gave up as a member of the Angels organization. I wish it were as simple as undoing what has been done, but the Angels have turned the page, and I only wish Chone well, and am thankful he still helps the team out when the Mariners play us with timely errors in the field and no run production at the plate :}

by agent_99 on Jul 20, 2010 9:53 AM PDT reply actions  

Agree

at his current salary/contract length it’s not to be considered.
I just wondered, if he really wanted to return and would give up $$ and years, is there a way it could be done?
Again, ASSUMING anyone on the Angels feels a return to familiar surroundings would get another couple of good years out of him.

Of course, no one gives up money so it’s a completely hypothetical question.

"The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self-awareness." - Annie Savoy

by raskul on Jul 20, 2010 9:54 AM PDT reply actions  

Agreed

I don’t know how serious the original question was, but to request to void a contract is an enormous legal process not for the faint of heart, and, yes, destined to be challenged by the Player’s Association.

Besides, Figgins would need every dollar of those millions he was giving up to help pay for the time machine which would make him relevant once again. The Angels parted company with him at the right point in his career, and there really is little in Figgins in 2010 to help the Angels.

"I can't tell people what to think or not to think. Their perceptions are their perceptions. We just feel we've taken a step forward. At the end of the day, we have to play 162 games. Once that happens then we'll be able to evaluate the offseason moves."~Tony Reagins, on the Angels' offseason

by George Kaplan on Jul 21, 2010 2:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lyman Bostock

Okay, I know that most of you probably already thought it.

He tried to return his April salary after an early season slump, but the team refused it.

by righteous halo on Jul 21, 2010 7:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

He and Mr. Autry agreed to donate it to charity, IIRC.

Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch

by red floyd on Jul 21, 2010 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Chone wouldn't give up money and years

But you could try and convince the Mariners to kick in some money. Say the Mariners pay 3 million per year. Angels get him back for 3 years and 18 million.

We’re happy as we have a player we liked back, and at a reasonable price. The Mariners might look at it as paying 9 million for him to go away is better than paying 27 million for a player they wish they never signed.

I doubt the Mariners would actually do that, but in theory it could work. Kind of like the Angels paying most of GMJr’s contract for him to play for somebody else. Anybody else.

"That boy is our last hope" - Obi Wan Scioscia, as Francisco Rodriguez left for the Mets. "No, there is another" - Yoda Reagins.

by RallyMonkey5 on Jul 21, 2010 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not convinced he'd help.

He would have been better than B.Wood, but not quite as good as Frandsen. About the only thing we miss is his speed, but it doesn’t help if he can’t reach base.

Considering his contract, we are far better off with Frandsen/Izzy. And no, I doubt he’d surrender part of his contract to return to the Angels.

by sothball on Jul 20, 2010 9:54 AM PDT reply actions  

How about

if we offer Kazmir and Rodney, straight up?

Even then, we still are paying Figgy almost $10 million a year in 2012/13. Seattle is stuck with him, and good for us.

by dmhead on Jul 20, 2010 10:00 AM PDT reply actions  

It could
be the reason why he’s struggling is because he’s batting in the #2 spot.

by phoenix15 on Jul 20, 2010 10:05 AM PDT reply actions  

Frandsen thrived there...

…in the short time he was given. Either you fill the two-hole with a fearless contact hitter that never strikes out, or you fill it with a patient type who sees a ton of pitches and works the walk while the leadoff hitter threatens on he bases.

Howie is neither of those things, and Aybar doesn’t get on base enough or run the bases well enough to threaten. It’s hard to imagine a more failure-inducing duo at the top of the order than those two. If you want to understand the streakiness of our offense and our regular dry spells, you can start with those two at the top.

by Turks Teeth on Jul 21, 2010 4:39 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Frankly, I don't want his CONTRACT back.

The M’s overpaid…AND that is why he signed with them. Plain and simple.

by K3YEROUT on Jul 20, 2010 10:09 AM PDT reply actions  

we let him go for a reason

assuming the rest of a contract we weren’t willing to pay last season makes even less sense now that he’s a year older and showing serious signs of decline

RIP Nick Adenhart

by ihearhowie2.0 on Jul 20, 2010 10:59 AM PDT reply actions  

I think Chone would recapture the magic in an Angels uniform again at 3B....

But last year was an anomoly. It was a contract year and he played big because he was extremely motivated. Chone left because he felt the Angels offer didn’t make him rich enough – 3 years at 8 million a year. He felt that extra one million a year in Seattle would totally be worth it. So far, he has been very wrong.

We betrayed Vlad, the greatest Angel. Epic fail.

by Halowood on Jul 20, 2010 11:03 AM PDT reply actions  

Don't forget

that guaranteed fourth year, too. As a fan I love Figgy, but we cut bait at exactly the right time. He may yet have another useful year or two in him. If you look at his career he seems to alternate good years with bad ones. But there is no way he comes close to living up to that contract.

by dmhead on Jul 20, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe we should try and get back Lackey while we are at it.

I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....

by PhiSlamma on Jul 20, 2010 11:41 AM PDT reply actions  

At Sunday softball the other day...

I was harassing the M’s fans I play with about Figgy. What was that contract? 45/5? Are you kidding me??

I know many of you lamented the loss of Figgy but when the news came out for how much he signed for I immediately thought that to be the worst signing of the off-season. Even if Chone had an excellent year in 2010, he still is bound to drop off dramatically as he gets older. He’s slower now and over the years has shown to be inconsistent from year to year.

Then the Sox signed Lackey…and I laughed even harder.

dissenter, dubious and devil's advocate to blog monitors everywhere.

by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Jul 20, 2010 11:48 AM PDT reply actions  

I had to look it up

It’s 4 years/$36 million, with the fifth year at $9 million vesting with 600 pa’s in 2013. The odds are pretty slim he gets that many ab’s at age 35, but either way it’s an awful deal for the M’s. Still short of GMjr’s fleecing of Stoneman, though.

by dmhead on Jul 20, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

The articles I read included Scioscia in the meetings with GMJr.

It seemed a corporate decision resulting from what GMJr told them.

It was later that the HGH stories came out.

GMJr lied to our guys. Not knowing about the HGH, they believed him. Moreno signed off on the deal; it was (still is) his money. At every opportunity, Moreno still pays homage to Stoneman for the advice he gives him.

I’m getting a bit peaved at all the Stoneman bashing. He made a couple of obvious (after the fact) mistakes. However, I still long for what I perceived as his eye/ear/nose for talent, and his ability to deal with the likes of Scott Boras.

by wumbug on Jul 20, 2010 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, c'mon.

If it actually went down like that, then management is full of softheaded rubes. Gmj’s record was clear — he was a fringey replacement-level player who had a fluky year and a single highlight reel catch that was marketed like rattlesnake oil to dupes.

If Scioscia and co sat around a table and let a conman convince them, through force of rhetoric alone, that he was a Carl Crawford or a Carlos Beltran, while the boys sat slackjawed with eyes agog like half-dollars at his glimmering promise — if that happened, then they deserve only our pity and derision. To play executives of a $300M franchise off as ‘victims’ of a silver tongued liar is a bit much.

by Turks Teeth on Jul 21, 2010 4:52 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

TT,

I understand your disbelief. However, I remember reading the articles regarding one particular meeting involving GMJr, Stoneman, and Scioscia, which resulted in the signing. I specifically remember the term, “I finally figured it out”, which was supposed to explain GMJr’s one good year, just finished in Texas. (I had never heard the term used that way before).

Now, it was already “rumored” in the news that both Texas and San Francisco were already willing to pay 3/$30MM, with a fourth year being considered by each in order to get the deal done. If both Texas and SF were willing to go 4/$40MM, it makes speculative sense to me that Stoneman/Moreno were of the mind that Moreno (at the time) would be willing to go one more year in order to “get their man”….5/$50MM. Moreno was furthering his reputation of being willing to spend his money to get his players.

We all ask ourselves and each other, "Why were Stoneman/Moreno/Scioscia so intent on getting their man? (this man, GMJr)? The only answer I can surmise is that, bottom line, they needed a CF’er badly. Both Guerrero and GAnderson were obviously showing signs of immobility; they needed someone who they thought could cover the ground between them (and a switch-hitting lead off hitter, to boot). They tried Figgins; that didn’t work out. Maybe that was when there was some talk of using Aybar; I can’t remember exact dates/years. Erstad couldn’t play CF any more; he had been granted free agency 10 days earlier (I looked that one up).

GMJr was the highest profile CF’er free agent in baseball at the time. His trendline seemed to be rising after that one very good year, with Texas and SF still in the hunt. Stoneman/Scioscia/GMJr had their lunch meeting. GMJr said all the right things at the right time…..said that the fact that he had been with so many teams over the years had bothered him…….even talked about how his son who lived in Los Angeles would get to see him play. The stars aligned. The Angels’ need was being answered; they were buying a player that other teams wanted. Two months later, news broke about the HGH shipments to a friend’s address in Texas, and GMJr stonewalled everyone…..including Moreno, which was the wrong thing to do.

by wumbug on Jul 21, 2010 5:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry but

Stoneman can’t get off that easy here. This is a deal that was highly ridiculed in just about every baseball circle the second it was announced. Go through the archives of this very site to see how the vast majority of us reacted to it. To think any player “figured it out” well after their 30th birthday is a fool’s errand. Not to mention his peripheral numbers screamed “fluke” and he was in one of the most hitter friendly parks in the game. The fact that Brian Sabean was his biggest competition for his services only helps solidify what a horribly bad idea it was to sign Gary. Stoneman thought he knew something everyone else didn’t. Unfortunately for Angel fans he was dead wrong.

by dmhead on Jul 21, 2010 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Frandsen, Wood, Izzy, Figgins, Atkins, ect.

….are not the permanent full-time answers at 3b.

by mustard_man on Jul 20, 2010 12:02 PM PDT reply actions  

This is like being in a relationship

where you dump the chick for a hotter chick but she is boring as hell so you want the other chick back but you want her to be even hotter than before.

Now batting, our rookie of the year, Miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiike TROUT!

by angelskid2210 on Jul 20, 2010 12:05 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I like Frandsen at third base and with his ability to productively hit I think he would

be a good lead off hitter as well. He always seems to get on base when he leads off an inning. Let the Mariners stew with their bad contract with Figgy, they deserve it for misusing him the way they have.

I hate the New York Yankees

by 44FAN on Jul 20, 2010 1:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Good joke
(Frandsen) would be a good lead off hitter as well

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Jul 23, 2010 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Although I've always wanted to see him wearing a halo

We already have a quality leadoff hitter in Erick Aybar, and Kevin Frandsen and Maicer Izturis are doing a great job filling in the void at third base. If we are going to trade for any third baseman, I believe Jose Bautista would be the best choice. At least with him, we’d have some offense.

by Halos Fan on Jul 20, 2010 9:19 PM PDT reply actions  

With the way Bautista is hitting right now

I don’t think the Jays would want to give him up.

Torii Hunter has some Brain Movage

by ryanfea on Jul 20, 2010 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's this year's Ben Zobrist

Guys who’s having a career year, who could fall off the map tomorrow.

BTW: Bautista is also a first half player. Usually he doesn’t do as well in the second half.

by righteous halo on Jul 21, 2010 7:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Technically possible, but...

not exactly as you’re thinking here.

…is there a way to “undo” his deal? Chone would have to give up some $$…

No. Undoing the deal in any material way and/or Chone giving up some dollars “voluntarily” is strictly verboten by the MLB Player’s Union – for obvious reasons.

However, it is possible (maybe even likely) that the Mariners will want to unload Figgy’s contract badly enough to pick up part of the cost of it for any trading partner willing to take him. Obviously, his new team’s salary costs would be less than the face value of the contract he signed with Seattle. Maybe a lot less.

But don’t count on him being an Angel again in this life. I’m sure the FO is feeling like they dodged the proverbial bullet. I doubt they would step back in front of the target. As fans we gnash teeth when we perceive they are wrong, we should accept when they are clearly right.

"That's the true harbinger of spring, not crocuses or swallows returning to Capistrano, but the sound of a bat on a ball." ~Bill Veeck

by LAASurfin on Jul 20, 2010 10:22 PM PDT reply actions  

And to be perfectly clear...

I miss him a lot too.

"That's the true harbinger of spring, not crocuses or swallows returning to Capistrano, but the sound of a bat on a ball." ~Bill Veeck

by LAASurfin on Jul 20, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like most on here...

I’d love to go back in time and have things be the way they were, but it won’t happen.

Not from a financial standpoint, and not from a performance standpoint.

I wouldn’t say he is “finished” but in watching him when I’ve had chances, he just seems to be a step behind in almost every aspect of his game.

Is it because he is unhappy? Doubt it as that doesn’t affect your speed and swing THAT much.

Is it because he is one year older and in that spot where one year can make enough of a difference? Doubt it, but it definitely adds up.

Is it because he misses the rally monkey? Yes.

by RedFog on Jul 21, 2010 6:27 AM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, this is a stupid question.

What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.

by clover_black on Jul 21, 2010 5:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Moral of the story

Gotta say that you should never start off a post “Probably a stupid question. . .”

If you don’t got it, fake it. If in fact, it’s stupid question, people will let you know. We usually do.

Its kind of funny, though. On one hand you have these newbie posters, who take themselves way too seriously, and who get all bothered and offended when we call them on their lack of knowledge, inanity, poor grammar or formatting. Then on the other hand, you have this post, which I actually can appreciate a little more. Yes, I think the idea of bringing back Figgins with that crazy salary is borderline lunacy. But, at least, he’s not taking himself so seriously.

by righteous halo on Jul 21, 2010 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also..

the arrogance to assume that chone figgins is unhappy in Seattle.

As far as we know, he’s happy doing backstrokes in piles of dollar bills in the pacific northwest.

He walked away from Anaheim. HIs career is in its twilight but cashed in a great payday. I understand the emotional attachment to Chone, but jeez… get over it.

What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.

by clover_black on Jul 21, 2010 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

No.

I had custom Chone pajamas made with the plastic feet bottoms so I can run down the hall and slide for 12 feet.

I’m not going to let that investment go to waste!

by RedFog on Jul 22, 2010 1:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can lend you my reggie willit's PJs.

What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.

by clover_black on Jul 22, 2010 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, if he wasn't unhappy a few days ago. . .

I agree that he’s clearly at the bottom of the barrel right now. But I don’t see how this changes anything for us. If anything it confirms that we were right to unload him and that no way, no how, should we try to bring him back to the friendly confines of Anaheim. He’s a train-wreck and we would be wise to get as far out of the way, as possible.

Chone has made his bed, and now Red Fog is going to have sleep in his pajamas.

by righteous halo on Jul 24, 2010 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

A man builds. A parasite asks, "Where is my share"?

((and I almost wish I had plastic feet bottom Chone pajamas because I’d sell them on eBay and someone from Seattle would still pay a ton for em :P))

by RedFog on Jul 24, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sigh...

"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next." -George Michael Steinbrenner III

by Chris McKeown on Jul 22, 2010 8:34 AM PDT reply actions  

Don't complain...

That is almost Mensa-level conversation from anyone associated with the Yankees…

In fact, I nominate him as poster of the month and have forwarded this thread to The Journal of Medicine to investigate if indeed, modern microcosm evolution is possible.

by RedFog on Jul 23, 2010 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

If anyone's still reading this post

Chone had a melt down in the dugout during yesterday’s game against the RedSux, which ended in him being benched. Apparenlty, Chone was accused of laziness in the field when he let a ball thrown from the outfield roll pass him, allowijng the runner to turn a double into a triple. The dugout scrum against him and Wakamatsu ended with the starting pitcher’s jersey getting torn off his back. I read about it on Yahoo sports.

Chone is playing badly on a bad team, but he would have been the last guy that I thought would lose his cool like that. I’m sure he wishes he were still with the Angels, even if the Angels don’t make the playoffs this year. Just sad all around.

by agent_99 on Jul 24, 2010 11:00 AM PDT reply actions  

*correction*

It was the third baseman’s jersey that got pulled off, not the starting pitcher’s.

by agent_99 on Jul 24, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

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