Weaver All-Star Snub
by IE Angel on Jul 4, 2010 10:21 AM PDT
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PrintThis is my first Fan Post, so I'm not used to this. But today's All-Star Selection Show has taken me to new levels of hatred for the Four Letter Network, Joe Girardi and all of the Yankees, and just Major League Baseball in general.
For Jered Weaver (8-3, 2.82 ERA, 124 K) to get snubbed from this team, in his home ball park, is simply ludicrous. First problem, he did not get voted on by the player vote, which is understandable because of when they vote and the fact that no one west of the Mississippi can watch most of our games. Second problem and, by far, the biggest problem is that Joe F'ing Girardi did not select Weaver to represent his team. He selected the following:
P Trevor Cahill- A's (8-2, 2.74 ERA, 56 K)
P Joakim Soria- Royals (20/22 SV, 2.56 ERA)
P Fausto Carmona- Indians (7-6, 3.68 ERA, 54 K)
P C.C. Sabathia- Yankees (10-3, 3.33 ERA, 93 K)
P Matt Thorton- White Sox (4/6 SV, 2.94 ERA, 47 K in 33.2 IP)
Utility (as a 2B) Ty Wiggington- Orioles (.251, 30 RS, 14 HR, 42 RBI, .337 OBP, .453 SLG)
3B- Alex Rodriguez- Yankees (.278, 43 RS, 12 HR, 61 RBI, .351 OBP, .491 SLG)
So Joe Girardi picked TWO of his own players that were marginally deserving when he already had FOUR representatives. Even overlooking the fact that he snubbed Alex Rios and Shin Soo-Choo from their teams for less deserving players, Girardi has again managed to show that East Coast bias controls most of baseball. I woke up thinking that I could make a slight argument for Howie to be our 3rd representative; but instead was delivered with one of the ALL TIME WORST SNUBS. I am genuinely sickened and might boycott the All Star Game at our own stadium. Shameful day for baseball, depressing day for the Angels.
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MLB is a joke
Weaver, Rios, Liriano, Votto, Willingham, Zimmerman all get snubbed yet Omar Infante and Fausto Carmona make the team
Torii Hunter has some Brain Movage
Mind boggling.
How to you lead the league in K’s have an ERA under 3 and get snubbed and by the way never throwing the ball over 93! Absolutely disgusting. I hope the AL loses due to the shitty pitching. But I hope Torii goes yard and then doesn’t give Girardi a high five. Oh and why the hell isn’t Kendrick on the final pick ballot!
Broken Wood...
by angelskid2210 on Jul 4, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
logically
it doesn’t make sense. But compared to the other 2B in the AL he is top 3 if pedroia is hurt. Kinsler shouldn’t be there for playing half the year and wiggington isn’t actually a second baseman.
"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen
Why isn't Weaver on the final pick ballot?
"jut keep winning babt" - Moondoggy
by Rally Manatee on Jul 4, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Omar Infante?
Are you shittin me? I haven’t looked at the NL roster. I know you have to represent all 30 teams but if you have to get a Braves infielder Glaus and Prado should be ahead of him. Especially with him being their backup.
"That boy is our last hope" - Obi Wan Scioscia, as Francisco Rodriguez left for the Mets. "No, there is another" - Yoda Reagins.
by RallyMonkey5 on Jul 4, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
One of 5 Braves
Prado is starting, McCann and Hudson are on the team, Heyward selected but is injured.
And Charlie Manuel picks a Braves backup over Ryan Zimmerman. He must be hoping the game goes 25 innings, and he’ll leave Prado and Infante out there till the very end in hopes of wearing them down.
You lose Chase Utley, you’ve got to have some plan to beat the team ahead of you.
"That boy is our last hope" - Obi Wan Scioscia, as Francisco Rodriguez left for the Mets. "No, there is another" - Yoda Reagins.
by RallyMonkey5 on Jul 4, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Some of those guys got picked...
because each team has to have one representative.
But yeah I completely agree with you, even if he’s not going to be able to pitch, he should still get a selection.
This is really unacceptable. We have a great pitcher who was going to give up his slot anyway and he can’t get recognition in his own park? Someone really screwed up here.
I’m pretty pissed right now. I figured Weaver was a sure thing. I thought Napoli should have gotten consideration as well.
Anyone else notice they put Vlad Guerrero as (LAA) on the ticker?
by Nashdiesel on Jul 4, 2010 10:42 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
did notice that
made the joke that east coast bias even affects texas.
"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen
Yes
Got a picture to immortalize it. So at least we’ll have two representatives. Credit the ninja for correcting a mistake and getting Texas to take Matsui.
"That boy is our last hope" - Obi Wan Scioscia, as Francisco Rodriguez left for the Mets. "No, there is another" - Yoda Reagins.
by RallyMonkey5 on Jul 4, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Here it is
"That boy is our last hope" - Obi Wan Scioscia, as Francisco Rodriguez left for the Mets. "No, there is another" - Yoda Reagins.
by RallyMonkey5 on Jul 4, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Thanks for the TV capture.
Since when did John Miller start working at TBS?
Skeletor sucks!!!!
"If he raced his pregnant wife he'd finish third"
Tommy Lasorda on catcher Mike Scioscia
by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Jul 4, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
My five-year-old son pointed that mistake out to me...
TBS is retarded.
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Jul 5, 2010 12:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Napoli didn't get any consideration but John Fing Buck is the backup catcher!!
Broken Wood...
by angelskid2210 on Jul 4, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
to be fair
buck does have like 15 more RBI’s than Napo-Smash. And a much better average. but buck snubbed much better players from his own team. Vernon Wells, Ricky Romero, Shawn Marcum.
"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen
marcum is on the DL.
Now stuck in Colorado Springs
by stuck in Romania on Jul 4, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
That angered me too
Buck rhymes with suck, and that is no coincidence. He’s as bad a defensive catcher as Napoli. His only asset is some power, but he does not get on base as well as Napoli. Perfect opportunity to give another spot to the hosting team, and they blew it.
The 4th place Blue Jays have 3 guys on the roster and the 2nd place Angels get one. Makes no sense. This whole Allstar selection process is a big FU to the Angels.
"That boy is our last hope" - Obi Wan Scioscia, as Francisco Rodriguez left for the Mets. "No, there is another" - Yoda Reagins.
by RallyMonkey5 on Jul 4, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
By my estimation Weaver would be about 5th in the AL
But they selected 8 SPs, so he should be there. Joe might argue that the East has the toughest competition so there stats won’t be as good, but this logic fails because there’s no Tampa Bay Pitcher (neither Jeff Niemann nor David Price, both of which have pitched better than C. C. Sabathia).
And the halo shines tonight
Wow, really?
He probably deserved it last year; he definitely deserved it this year. That’s messed up.
No Tim Wakefield deserved it. I mean no angel deserves to be an all-star but if its a red sox yipee kay eh
Now that Lackey has turned to the enemy lets kick his ass
by Angelsrthebest101 on Jul 4, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Wait, do we have have a representative in the All-Star game, yet?
dissenter, dubious and devil's advocate to blog monitors everywhere.
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Jul 4, 2010 11:30 AM PDT reply actions
I hope he hits a foul ball in the mouth of Joe Giradi
dissenter, dubious and devil's advocate to blog monitors everywhere.
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Jul 4, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
ESPN doesn't even mention Weaver as a snub
or as one of the players who could/should have made it.
Of course Strasburg being left off gets a headline.
Joke.
well you know
those royals really do deserve three reps, so obviously their snubs are more egregious than a top 3 cy young candidate. he got snubbed from being a snub.
"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen
Yeah they did, if you read Jayson Stark's piece Weaver is the second biggest snub besides Joey Votto
Now that Lackey has turned to the enemy lets kick his ass
by Angelsrthebest101 on Jul 4, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Im starting to view this as a positive
they don’t have to deal with the stress and Weaver wont have to waste a couple innings….
Besides all of this Weaver pitches on Sunday anyways. Not like he would of pitched in the ASG anyways
Gotta have more Kowbell
Agreed which is all the more reason to select him...
he’ll get replaced on the roster anyway. So why not just pick him so he gets credit in front of his home fans and then give his spot to someone else?
guess you aren't
a big weaver fan.
name me a worse snub than the Al leader in strikeouts at his home stadium. find one from any year.
"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen
i made the same basic statement already in another thread
http://www.halosheaven.com/2010/7/3/1551281/if-elegible-jered-weaver-should#41250363
plz don’t insult my fandom
btw he leads the majors not just the AL
Gotta have more Kowbell
wasn't an insult to your fandom
just seems like you are brushing it off too easily. I always say I’m over it too; but then the MLB finds a new way to push me further.
"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen
It's all about the honor
or lack thereof.
"jut keep winning babt" - Moondoggy
by Rally Manatee on Jul 4, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
You guys should have had Weaver in for sure
but if it is only 1 of the 2 guys you have that have All Star numbers, i have to think Weaver should have been the one to go, the guy is one of the best pitchers in the AL this year, Torii is well down the list when it comes to Out Fielders. and the AL is going to need pitching to have a chance at winning it this year with the strong NL pitching
"You guys should have weaver in for sure"
No shit.
WTY's ERA+ = 152 : - ) -- Kevin Frandsen > Brandon Wood??????
by Figgi4life on Jul 4, 2010 12:13 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh that was nothing
against you. I didn’t even look at your SN. I was just saying that he obviously was deserving.
WTY's ERA+ = 152 : - ) -- Kevin Frandsen > Brandon Wood??????
Wow.
Ffffff that. I expect “WE WANT WEAVER” chants during the all star game. This is a new level of rage.
WTY's ERA+ = 152 : - ) -- Kevin Frandsen > Brandon Wood??????
by Figgi4life on Jul 4, 2010 12:13 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Everybody needs to boycott the All-star game.
This is just pure bullshit. The damn game is in our HOME BALLPARK, yet we still get absolutely NO respect what-so-ever. Seriously? Somehow our team has fallen off so badly that we’ve become one of those teams that only has 1 representative? FUCK this game. I’ll watch the Futures game and possibly the Celebrity Softball game. If Naps can get chosen for the HR Derby, then I might watch that. But this game is just so useless..
It must be that time of day, the time to focus on sports.
and where was ownership pushing and promoting it's players.
all I have really seen is Arte pushing the All Star Game.
When I'm not at the stadium, I'd rather be watching my Halos back in Costa Rica!
by Dono Romantico on Jul 4, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
TWO F'ING YEARS IN A ROW!!!!
One F-ing all star for TWO YEARS IN A ROW!!! Who the hell are we? The damn A’s? The P.O.S. Orioles?
by Balls and Strikes on Jul 5, 2010 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah but not really. We got a, "well, this guy is injured and we know you probably wont make it but..."
The fact we have dominated our division would make me think we deserve to have some recognition that we have some pretty good players.
by Balls and Strikes on Jul 5, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
People going to the game tonight
need to bring signs.
WTY's ERA+ = 152 : - ) -- Kevin Frandsen > Brandon Wood??????
FIrst of all
A lot of new dudes I’m not super familiar with, interesting.
And secondly, this is rage inducing.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
rage
when you are 25, anger is an energy
when you are 35, it is stress
when you are 45, it is a precursor to a stroke.
Wasn't Girardi supposed to be smart?
He went to Northwestern after all.
Follow me on twitter @Joey_Kaufman
you guys act like you didn't expect this
Even our own manager gave us no respect when it came to selecting all stars before
if it wasnt for our
bullpen costing Weaver a few games he would of had 10 win and would of been in
by LBClippersFan on Jul 4, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
No.
He’d have 12. He left 4 of his ND’s with the lead.
WTY's ERA+ = 152 : - ) -- Kevin Frandsen > Brandon Wood??????
no i know that
but usually 10 wins mean you are in if you are a starting pitcher is all
by LBClippersFan on Jul 4, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
This is such
FUCKING BULLCRAP.
There, that’s my one for the month.
ARRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH.
Light up that halo! RIP, Nick.
I propose a lift of the F ban in this thread alone
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
I'm glad I sold my tickets now
I saw noted somewhere that these are partial rosters. Final ones will be announced Thursday. Does that just mean the final vote or can more players be added?
There’s also the likelihood that a spot or two opens up due to injury, etc. Still, Weaver shouldn’t be forced to hope for that.
I believe I’ll be bringing a strongly worded sign to the HR Derby.
"You gotta have nuts." / "Coming Around 3rd, especially if I'm ticked off, that's going to happen." - Torii Hunter
im still glad i didnt sell mine
but its a bit retarded
by LBClippersFan on Jul 4, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I look at it his way
I was gonna sell either HR Derby or ASG. ASG is worth more. I’ve seen a baseball game before. I was kinda bummed I wouldn’t get to see Weaver pitch in it, but now I guess I’ve got nothing to be mad about. I made back several hundred bucks so someone else can watch 25 different players play 2-3 innings each.
At least the HR Derby is unique and the players are in that to win. To each his own though.
"You gotta have nuts." / "Coming Around 3rd, especially if I'm ticked off, that's going to happen." - Torii Hunter
by Commander_Nate on Jul 4, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah i dont blame you
my aunt ended up paying for my 4 seats for my birthday so money didn’t come into the situation. I would of ast least 2 tickets to each of the events if I paid for them myself
by LBClippersFan on Jul 4, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Weaver is greater than Sabathia, Phil Hughes, David Price, and Clay Buchholz
Yet another example of why the All-Star selection process is deeply flawed and is pretty much a farce.
Weaver has been one of the best pitchers in baseball this year. The other 4 only get in over Weaver due to a combination of having more Wins and playing on the East Coast. I didn’t even bother discussing Cahill or the bullpen pitchers since each team needs a representative. Of course Liriano gets screwed too. If only the bullpen didn’t blow so many of Weaver’s games and the Angels had a good offense…..
Bobby Grich should be in the HOF!
Clay Buchholz is about to go on the DL
so Weaver gets in
by LBClippersFan on Jul 4, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
No Giradi will find away to screw it up. Now on the all star team as a replacement...... Jeremy Guthrie.
Now that Lackey has turned to the enemy lets kick his ass
by Angelsrthebest101 on Jul 4, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Ugh, this is total bullshit
Weaver is easily one of the best pitchers in the majors. He leads the majors in strikeouts, low WHIP, ERA under 3, would be 12-3 if not for the Arson Squad.
Girardi sucks
So once again, for the third consecutive time, the Angels will host an all star game and have not one single player representing them on the field
And for the second consecutive year generally, no Angel will actually play in the game.
Light up that halo! RIP, Nick.
HR derby F's up your swing.
It did for Vladdy that year he won it.
Nothing against Vlad, but I kind of hope it does it gain.
Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch
Torii or Naps will be in
Unless MLB are complete morons instead of the half-morons we know they are.
"You gotta have nuts." / "Coming Around 3rd, especially if I'm ticked off, that's going to happen." - Torii Hunter
by Commander_Nate on Jul 5, 2010 1:05 AM PDT up reply actions
While this totally is crap...
…and that goes without saying, the biggest sin is really the lack of power and strength of the Angel team.
They have not really done anything this season to grab anyone’s attention and few if anyone besides Angel fans woke up to wonder “Which Angels made it??” because we simply have not had that kind of team this year.
If they were frontrunners, it definitely makes the cases easier…
But yes, this is a crime and I don’t think many non-Angel fans could argue with the numbers…
And while I don't know if there will be a strong enough Angel fan presence...
…to hear it clearly, but everyone should boo when the AL starter takes the mound.
I think the commentators would be smart enough to pick up on the message being sent…
Well if this doesn't piss off and motivate the Angels
nothing will
When I'm not at the stadium, I'd rather be watching my Halos back in Costa Rica!
I'm guessing Carmona got picked b/c Choo went on the DL
Now stuck in Colorado Springs
by stuck in Romania on Jul 4, 2010 1:30 PM PDT reply actions
Yeah,
but that doesn’t explain Sabathia and A-Roid
WTY's ERA+ = 152 : - ) -- Kevin Frandsen > Brandon Wood??????
exactly...
very undeserving this year.
Now stuck in Colorado Springs
by stuck in Romania on Jul 4, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
As sad as it is to say
Yes, they do.
"You gotta have nuts." / "Coming Around 3rd, especially if I'm ticked off, that's going to happen." - Torii Hunter
by Commander_Nate on Jul 5, 2010 1:07 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm excited to see the Futures Game and Celebrity and Legend Softball Game
Angels representation didn’t get snubbed there.
Torii Hunter has some Brain Movage
+1
Three guys in the futures game and one of them is probably gonna be the most talked about guy in trout, who else besides Salmon is in the celebrities game?
Broken Wood...
by angelskid2210 on Jul 4, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
How sick is that?
Well that does it for me, no sense wasting my time watching. They can all go FUCK THEMSELVES!!! HOW MANY FUCKING YANKEES O
by Wally's World on Jul 4, 2010 1:36 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Look the all-star game is a joke
I don’t watch it, it is stupid popularity contest. The AL is always over represented by the Yankees and Red Sox and I use it to take 3-4 days off from baseball (mostly I just wait for it to be done so I can get back to baseball)
From MLB Player Representative Angel Joe Saunders
Joe Saunders said current All-Star process “is going to change.” Players don’t like WS home-field hinging on game, as long as there are roster restrictions like having every team represented. If the best players can’t be there, then the game shouldn’t mean anything. From OCR’s Dan Woike http://twitter.com/OCR_DanWoike
Torii Hunter has some Brain Movage
Guys, you are 100% right to be pissed about the Weaver Snub but..
I would bet money that Girardi already had the Buccholz injury in mind, just gave him the selection he deserved. If Weaver was put on the 5 player vote, than I would tee off on Girardi, but he’s not, so Weaver will be there. Im not a Girardi guy, so dont hate. There are a ton of bad snubs in both leagues, Infante makes it but Votto doesnt? Terrible.
Not buying it
Then why not pick Shoo to give him the honor HE deserves, and replace him with Carmona? For Weaver to be having the type of year he is having, with already a pretty decent career under his belt, and not make the team for the first time is down right absurd. He is clearly the best player on the team this year, and as many have said here already, WE’RE HOSTING THE GOD DAMN THING!
I don’t think he put that much thought into his picks at all. He looked for the “name” player on the teams he didn’t give a shit about.
Weaver is going to end up going ...
RE LAX
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Jul 5, 2010 12:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Well I'm glad I have Votto and Weaver on my fantasy team
I don’t understand how these guys aren’t shoo-ins.
Why all the Girardi hate?
Fuentes and his flammable bullpenmates cost Weaver the wins to get into this popularity contest.
I love this team.
Nothing wrong with 8-3 at the break
ESPECIALLY when you lead the majors in K’s. The ERA and whip are right there too. Sometimes a pitcher’s record is overrated.
Yep, but 12-3 would have nailed down the all-star selection.
Dontcha think?
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Jul 5, 2010 1:27 AM PDT up reply actions
I dunno
If he was 8-3 with a 3+ ERA in the AL East, I can basically guarantee he gets selected. You know, because the AL East is soooo much more difficult… waaaaaahhhh!
"You gotta have nuts." / "Coming Around 3rd, especially if I'm ticked off, that's going to happen." - Torii Hunter
by Commander_Nate on Jul 5, 2010 1:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Because if Girardi is paying attention to win totals as a means of determining pitcher quality, then he deserves more scorn than the bullpen.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
by Gorbachav5 on Jul 5, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
What would have really sucked
was if Kowbell hadn’t gone down for the season,
and had continued hitting the way he was—
he would have still finished third on the ballot for 1st base….
Or maybe he would have been picked as the Halo “reserve” instead of Torii…
Exactly
Them blowing games did not change Weaver’s performance one bit. He’s still the second or third best pitcher in the AL this year.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Andy Pettitte replacing Buchholz on the AL roster.
http://twitter.com/BryanHoch/status/17822979886
Yet another reason why the Yankees should never make it to the World Series.
Years later, Clutch still needs to chill.
R.I.P. Nick Adenhart, #34.
Creates a hole in Girardi's plan.
He wanted to have Andy replace C.C. because he starts Sunday. So there’s one extra spot. Also, Andy was voted in by the players, so it’s not Girardi’s fault.
WTY's ERA+ = 152 : - ) -- Kevin Frandsen > Brandon Wood??????
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