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Scott Kazmir Sinks Angels Hopes Yet Again

Final Score in Chicago: Angels 2, White Sox 9

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The Angels expensive lefty Scott Kazmir teetered on the brink of being labeled permanently gutless as he hung flat sliders on perfect tees for hungry White Sox hitters eager to please a holiday crowd desperate to be kept from thinking of their putrid bankrupt state of Illin'-Noise. Human cancer A.J. Pierzynski asked for an appeal from the cornerbase umpire on every batter and was cheered for his efforts by the pudgy Ditka-clone crowd in Cookie Cutter Cellular Park.

Despite the attempts to give the game away by stoneless Kaz, the Angels actually brought the tying run to the on-deck circle in the 8th inning ina  7-2 ball game but pinch hitter Mike Napoli struck out swinging to end the only threat of the game.

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Blame of the Game
Scott Kazmir
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Dear Kazmir,
Please stop taking away good mojo for this team. Please pitch better next time

                                                   From,
                                                   Angel fans

by phoenix15 on Jul 5, 2010 7:04 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Rec.

Light up that halo! RIP, Nick.

by Clutch on Jul 5, 2010 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Please pitch BEST every time...

just asking “better” means he can still suck, but just not as much as the time before.

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Jul 6, 2010 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Who got your vote?

Torii Hunter has some Brain Movage

by ryanfea on Jul 5, 2010 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Quentin flied out.

Light up that halo! RIP, Nick.

by Clutch on Jul 5, 2010 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

or homered twice

NA, #34 SP, LAA
Light up the Halo for Nick!

More Howie please...

by hk47 on Jul 6, 2010 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

HAHAH

then Cruz goes down looking as well.

LOL

Chan Gailey's #1 Fan!

by norcaliangelsfan on Jul 5, 2010 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who was the pitcher?
Cliff Lee?

by phoenix15 on Jul 5, 2010 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think its time in Kazmir’s career
to finally retire or move to the BP. There he can pitch his arm out for 1 inning.

by phoenix15 on Jul 5, 2010 7:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Kazmat...

In various forms can cause death, serious injury, long-lasting health effects, and damage to your bullpen.

If ain't nothing wrong, something just ain't right.

by Funke5ive on Jul 5, 2010 7:18 PM PDT reply actions  

If he can't throw his slider as an "out" pitch, he's done as a starter

BTW – the help from Salt Lake City looked spectacular tonight too.

by mustard_man on Jul 5, 2010 7:20 PM PDT reply actions  

In Matsuiland

the lines dont move fast either.

by bighig on Jul 5, 2010 7:26 PM PDT reply actions  

If Barry Zito can turn it around...

maybe Kaz can to; althought Zito pitches in the NL and had a few years to “find his stuff.”

They want power. We want respect...

by SenorChuckles on Jul 5, 2010 7:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Zito had 7 years and $126m to figure it out

Let’s all hope the Halo’s do not have that much patience with BBazmir (he does not get the “K” back in his name until he earns it…)

by mustard_man on Jul 5, 2010 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

BOTG=Soth

Lackluster offense, that line up today was so sub-par. Yet another bonehead strategic move by Scioscia!

Let the Halo power flow

by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Jul 5, 2010 7:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Might have been brilliant actually......

Think about it.

late game last night………late flight out to the East……….plus earlish start time and its a 4 game series.

Methinks some Soth psycho-analysis was in play here.

Chan Gailey's #1 Fan!

by norcaliangelsfan on Jul 5, 2010 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Naw

Soth is just using the “talent” the front office has provided him. Look at the win/loss record so far; Soth has really done a great job maximizing the results given the players available.

by mustard_man on Jul 5, 2010 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

The team currently has 2 injured outfielders, though at least Abreu was able to DH today.

The only difference in the offense Scioscia chose to make really was giving Napoli a day off, at putting McAnulty in there instead.

by ~MMP~ on Jul 5, 2010 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

my guess

after the last closed door meeting, they gave Kaz one more try to not shit the bed before moving him to the pen. then they gave him the B squad to make sure he’s done starting for a while.

by daze on Jul 5, 2010 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

I said the same thing to my wife when I saw the lineup. I imagine Sosh said he`d send him to the hill one more, but he`d better br ready tp PITCH his way to a victory.

"jut keep winning babt" - Moondoggy

by Rally Manatee on Jul 5, 2010 9:07 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

You guys are being so negative!

He only let in 7 ER.

I think that is still below the average for our pitching staff…

by RedFog on Jul 5, 2010 7:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Joe’s
been solid his past few outings. Santana and Pinerio are becoming more consistent, Weave is just awesome, only hole in this rotation im afraid to say is Kazmir.

by phoenix15 on Jul 5, 2010 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not watching anymore Kazmir starts

Unless they are uber-important games.

Way to co

"You gotta have nuts." / "Coming Around 3rd, especially if I'm ticked off, that's going to happen." - Torii Hunter

by Commander_Nate on Jul 5, 2010 7:55 PM PDT reply actions  

*continue my hangover

I’m starting to type like Kaz pitches.

"You gotta have nuts." / "Coming Around 3rd, especially if I'm ticked off, that's going to happen." - Torii Hunter

by Commander_Nate on Jul 5, 2010 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sosh on Angels Weekly
“whenever I’m around food I’m never nervous…I’m very relaxed”

If ain't nothing wrong, something just ain't right.

by Funke5ive on Jul 5, 2010 8:14 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

So ...

when Kaz is on the mound he looks like a giant ham to Mike

by eyespy on Jul 5, 2010 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe we could just join the 2 teams together as one

Consolidation is the answer—
The Pacific Coast Angel Mariners,
or maybe “The Rhyme of the Ancient Halo Mariner”

by Raaddad on Jul 5, 2010 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

This.

Jeff can come if he’s nice.

Light up that halo! RIP, Nick.

by Clutch on Jul 5, 2010 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

LL was renamed "Luckout Landing"

Due to the fact that luck is the prevailing excuse to explain away the fact that the Mariners are a terrible team. Having Felix Hernandez and Cliff Lee on that roster is like having chrome wheels on a rusted out 1974 Ford Pinto.

by XYZ123 on Jul 6, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

This isn't a video game

Torii Hunter has some Brain Movage

by ryanfea on Jul 5, 2010 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Apparently he's going to the Twins or something

"You gotta have nuts." / "Coming Around 3rd, especially if I'm ticked off, that's going to happen." - Torii Hunter

by Commander_Nate on Jul 5, 2010 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sheeit.

yup, but then again teams are making offers. The news comes down to if the M’s accept it. Hope the Twins get Lee—assuming we aren’t in the sweepstakes.

They want power. We want respect...

by SenorChuckles on Jul 5, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think this deal might go down. From the reactions of the Twins’ blog, it seems like they’re overpaying.

They want power. We want respect...

by SenorChuckles on Jul 5, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, I don't know.

The M’s would get a “top prospect” in Ramos (in AAA) and Hicks (low A). Ramos has great D for a catcher with some “pop”. Hicks is a ‘08 1st round pick that is a potential 5-tool player. I’m not going to sit here and pretend like I’m a scout, but Conger seems like a better prospect and maybe the Angels can make an intriguing offer.

I think our friends at SS&R already gave us the low-down on Blake: Can hit 3’s, nice contributer—passing wise, but his speed will hold him back on defense. I hope LA signs Bell and get Fish to return on the 2.5 million contract. High hopes though.

They want power. We want respect...

by SenorChuckles on Jul 5, 2010 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

best comment of the season

that would awesome. with 4 starters and no firstbaseman we`d be set!

"jut keep winning babt" - Moondoggy

by Rally Manatee on Jul 5, 2010 9:14 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Offensively at least.

But it doesn’t matter, because there is no way the Mariners would accept that offer for Lee.

by ~MMP~ on Jul 5, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Missed the game but....

…..when we only score 2 runs, it’s clear Kazmir wasn’t the only Angel who played like a sucky loser today.

by Robviously on Jul 5, 2010 8:26 PM PDT reply actions  

when the O puts up 11 the day before,

they get a pass.

Kaz continues to fail at an impressive rate. One might inquire the thought process in shipping him out every 5th start.

Maybe surgery is the answer. Frontal lobotomy… is that where the slider is hiding?

What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.

by clover_black on Jul 5, 2010 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Those 11 runs make up for the suckage of the previous two games and last week.

Have to have some consistency before they get another pass today.

Light up that halo! RIP, Nick.

by Clutch on Jul 5, 2010 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Our offense SUCKED against the Royals.

That series made me not want to watch baseball anymore, despite the fun of yesterday’s blowout.

by Robviously on Jul 5, 2010 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bag of Balls>Dontrelle Willis>Mariah Carey's First Pitch>........Scott Kazmir

Bullpen or SLC, Kaz — take your pick! Merely a demotion is too good for you right about now.

FREE SCOT SHIELDS

by PieceOfAase on Jul 5, 2010 9:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Dontrelle Willis

Butcher can fix him. . .

If ain't nothing wrong, something just ain't right.

by Funke5ive on Jul 6, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some positives

Kazmir was actually throwing a few really good sliders.

In my opinion, this was just his first real game trying to throw his slider for strikes. Although he got shelled, it was mainly because 1) he was trying to throw his slider for strikes = a lot of breaking balls in the zone = HRs, 2) he ran into a very hot team.

Despite his lackluster performance today, I’m actually interested to see how Kazmir does to mix his slider with a well located 92 fastball and his improving change-up.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he does very well from here on out, if he’s got a good hang of his slider.

"Just another Halo victory" - Rory Markas

by Slyintine on Jul 5, 2010 9:28 PM PDT reply actions  

I'll be optimistic, yet again.

I actually understand what you mean. He was actually releasing some sliders in there. Atleast in the first 5 innings.

You think the wind had any factor with his control?

by maze88 on Jul 5, 2010 11:55 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I don't think so

It was mostly the breaking balls in the zones. He was able to get Konerko to swing at a slider out of the zone, so that is a good sign that he’s slowly able to work that slider in.

Probably what factored the most was his changeup, which get got burned a couple of times on because he didn’t throw them out of the zone like he was supposed to.

So some control issues. But the sliders that I saw from Kazmir looked really good. He’s pitching a little less scared than normal. And it looks like he got consistent 91-92 MPH fastball velocity that game.

"Just another Halo victory" - Rory Markas

by Slyintine on Jul 6, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kazmir appears to be our Dice K.

He pitches like a girl. A clueless, scaredy-cat girl.

I've got nothing.

by bc56274 on Jul 5, 2010 9:29 PM PDT reply actions  

I think that was the last we see of Kazmir for awhile

The front office will start to look for a temp in the system, then this time next week will be schmoozing with the big wigs at the All Star game looking for a trade or two. Somebody out there likes us better than the Rangers, or has Emperor Bud’s “Plan Z” swung into overdrive.

by eyespy on Jul 5, 2010 9:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Btw, did anyone pick Thompson for the pregame question?

or was he even an option on the list?
Thought I had a chance with 2 out in the 6th and a 2-1 game,
Kaz maybe going one more inning,
and what looked like called K3…inning over…
but noooooooooooooo……………

by Raaddad on Jul 5, 2010 10:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Shoot Kazmir into the Sun

Ok, maybe a little harsh. Time for some DL slash rehab at AAA or something I guess.

Angel Pitching, Angel Defense - get past that.

by vladtheimpaler on Jul 5, 2010 11:27 PM PDT reply actions  

ha!

what a great mythic death that would be
(Reminds me of early Floyd’s “Set Your Controls for te Heart of the Sun”)

by Raaddad on Jul 6, 2010 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Re:Kazmir

He looked like he was going to cry Private Pyle…

by A D B on Jul 6, 2010 3:11 AM PDT reply actions  

Scott Kazmir’s slider
Is flat as piss on a board
Like Angels offense

"The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self-awareness." - Annie Savoy

by raskul on Jul 6, 2010 7:21 AM PDT reply actions  

Watching the game, the difference was he began tipping the slider in the 6th

Early on in the game, he was using the same mechanics for the fastball and the slider- effectively hiding it. He must have tired in the 6th… at some point in the near 30 pitches he threw that inning… and slipped back into evil kazmir mechanics. His arm comes way up before dropping down to the side a bit. Its pretty easy to pick up whats coming and then wait on it just like konerko and guillen did.
On the positive side, if he can fix his mechanics and stay in the same arm slot, we should see much more of the innings 1-5 kazmir soon.

by Balls and Strikes on Jul 6, 2010 7:39 AM PDT reply actions  

Honestly, Kazmir is done as a starter...

for now at least. His young arm is burned out. He looks like a slightly better Dontrelle Willis, and his velocity is down from his prime years. He’ll probably never be an effective starter again…or then again, maybe he’ll have a career rebirth later on, like our very own Joel Pineiro. Heck, maybe he should start working on a sinker now…

by nicolasville on Jul 6, 2010 10:00 AM PDT reply actions  

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