Scott Kazmir Sinks Angels Hopes Yet Again
by Rev Halofan on Jul 5, 2010 6:57 PM PDT
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PrintFinal Score in Chicago: Angels 2, White Sox 9
The Angels expensive lefty Scott Kazmir teetered on the brink of being labeled permanently gutless as he hung flat sliders on perfect tees for hungry White Sox hitters eager to please a holiday crowd desperate to be kept from thinking of their putrid bankrupt state of Illin'-Noise. Human cancer A.J. Pierzynski asked for an appeal from the cornerbase umpire on every batter and was cheered for his efforts by the pudgy Ditka-clone crowd in Cookie Cutter Cellular Park.
Despite the attempts to give the game away by stoneless Kaz, the Angels actually brought the tying run to the on-deck circle in the 8th inning ina 7-2 ball game but pinch hitter Mike Napoli struck out swinging to end the only threat of the game.
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Dear Kazmir,
Please stop taking away good mojo for this team. Please pitch better next time
From,
Angel fans
by phoenix15 on Jul 5, 2010 7:04 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Please pitch BEST every time...
just asking “better” means he can still suck, but just not as much as the time before.
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Jul 6, 2010 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Pitching help please.............
Chan Gailey's #1 Fan!
by norcaliangelsfan on Jul 5, 2010 7:08 PM PDT reply actions
not fair voting twice.
Now stuck in Colorado Springs
by stuck in Romania on Jul 5, 2010 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Isn't this like the All Star voting?
Don’t we each get like 4200 votes?
lol Josh Hamilton just k'd looking with the bases loaded........
1 out……
heh.
Chan Gailey's #1 Fan!
by norcaliangelsfan on Jul 5, 2010 7:11 PM PDT reply actions
HAHAH
then Cruz goes down looking as well.
LOL
Chan Gailey's #1 Fan!
by norcaliangelsfan on Jul 5, 2010 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Herrmann........
Chan Gailey's #1 Fan!
by norcaliangelsfan on Jul 5, 2010 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Kazmat...
In various forms can cause death, serious injury, long-lasting health effects, and damage to your bullpen.
If ain't nothing wrong, something just ain't right.
The game was over when Soth filled out the lineup card
That said, Kazmir’s performance inspired me to go online and purchase a new jersey in his honor…
by Big Easy Halofan on Jul 5, 2010 7:20 PM PDT reply actions 5 recs
If he can't throw his slider as an "out" pitch, he's done as a starter
BTW – the help from Salt Lake City looked spectacular tonight too.
If Barry Zito can turn it around...
maybe Kaz can to; althought Zito pitches in the NL and had a few years to “find his stuff.”
They want power. We want respect...
Zito had 7 years and $126m to figure it out
Let’s all hope the Halo’s do not have that much patience with BBazmir (he does not get the “K” back in his name until he earns it…)
BOTG=Soth
Lackluster offense, that line up today was so sub-par. Yet another bonehead strategic move by Scioscia!
Let the Halo power flow
by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Jul 5, 2010 7:27 PM PDT reply actions
Might have been brilliant actually......
Think about it.
late game last night………late flight out to the East……….plus earlish start time and its a 4 game series.
Methinks some Soth psycho-analysis was in play here.
Chan Gailey's #1 Fan!
by norcaliangelsfan on Jul 5, 2010 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Naw
Soth is just using the “talent” the front office has provided him. Look at the win/loss record so far; Soth has really done a great job maximizing the results given the players available.
The team currently has 2 injured outfielders, though at least Abreu was able to DH today.
The only difference in the offense Scioscia chose to make really was giving Napoli a day off, at putting McAnulty in there instead.
Wait, what happened to Abreu?
Can’t believe I missed it…he looked fine from section 133 on Saturday!
Light up that halo! RIP, Nick.
my guess
after the last closed door meeting, they gave Kaz one more try to not shit the bed before moving him to the pen. then they gave him the B squad to make sure he’s done starting for a while.
+1
I said the same thing to my wife when I saw the lineup. I imagine Sosh said he`d send him to the hill one more, but he`d better br ready tp PITCH his way to a victory.
"jut keep winning babt" - Moondoggy
by Rally Manatee on Jul 5, 2010 9:07 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
You guys are being so negative!
He only let in 7 ER.
I think that is still below the average for our pitching staff…
I'm not watching anymore Kazmir starts
Unless they are uber-important games.
Way to co
"You gotta have nuts." / "Coming Around 3rd, especially if I'm ticked off, that's going to happen." - Torii Hunter
*continue my hangover
I’m starting to type like Kaz pitches.
"You gotta have nuts." / "Coming Around 3rd, especially if I'm ticked off, that's going to happen." - Torii Hunter
by Commander_Nate on Jul 5, 2010 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Sosh on Angels Weekly
“whenever I’m around food I’m never nervous…I’m very relaxed”
If ain't nothing wrong, something just ain't right.
by Funke5ive on Jul 5, 2010 8:14 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I've just had enough of this Kazmir ...GET RID OF HIM NOW .
Trade Saunders , Kazmir and Napoli for Cliff Lee.
Maybe we could just join the 2 teams together as one
Consolidation is the answer—
The Pacific Coast Angel Mariners,
or maybe “The Rhyme of the Ancient Halo Mariner”
LL was renamed "Luckout Landing"
Due to the fact that luck is the prevailing excuse to explain away the fact that the Mariners are a terrible team. Having Felix Hernandez and Cliff Lee on that roster is like having chrome wheels on a rusted out 1974 Ford Pinto.
Apparently he's going to the Twins or something
"You gotta have nuts." / "Coming Around 3rd, especially if I'm ticked off, that's going to happen." - Torii Hunter
by Commander_Nate on Jul 5, 2010 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Sheeit.
yup, but then again teams are making offers. The news comes down to if the M’s accept it. Hope the Twins get Lee—assuming we aren’t in the sweepstakes.
They want power. We want respect...
by SenorChuckles on Jul 5, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I think this deal might go down. From the reactions of the Twins’ blog, it seems like they’re overpaying.
They want power. We want respect...
by SenorChuckles on Jul 5, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Really? What does it appear they're paying or giving up for him?
(Btw, What do you think of the Blake pick-up?)
Well, I don't know.
The M’s would get a “top prospect” in Ramos (in AAA) and Hicks (low A). Ramos has great D for a catcher with some “pop”. Hicks is a ‘08 1st round pick that is a potential 5-tool player. I’m not going to sit here and pretend like I’m a scout, but Conger seems like a better prospect and maybe the Angels can make an intriguing offer.
I think our friends at SS&R already gave us the low-down on Blake: Can hit 3’s, nice contributer—passing wise, but his speed will hold him back on defense. I hope LA signs Bell and get Fish to return on the 2.5 million contract. High hopes though.
They want power. We want respect...
by SenorChuckles on Jul 5, 2010 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions
best comment of the season
that would awesome. with 4 starters and no firstbaseman we`d be set!
"jut keep winning babt" - Moondoggy
by Rally Manatee on Jul 5, 2010 9:14 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Lots of first baseman out there hoping to get a chance ....
Include Casey Kotchman in the trade ….Problem solved .
by Ed@northridge on Jul 5, 2010 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Offensively at least.
But it doesn’t matter, because there is no way the Mariners would accept that offer for Lee.
Missed the game but....
…..when we only score 2 runs, it’s clear Kazmir wasn’t the only Angel who played like a sucky loser today.
when the O puts up 11 the day before,
they get a pass.
Kaz continues to fail at an impressive rate. One might inquire the thought process in shipping him out every 5th start.
Maybe surgery is the answer. Frontal lobotomy… is that where the slider is hiding?
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
Those 11 runs make up for the suckage of the previous two games and last week.
Have to have some consistency before they get another pass today.
Light up that halo! RIP, Nick.
Our offense SUCKED against the Royals.
That series made me not want to watch baseball anymore, despite the fun of yesterday’s blowout.
Bag of Balls>Dontrelle Willis>Mariah Carey's First Pitch>........Scott Kazmir
Bullpen or SLC, Kaz — take your pick! Merely a demotion is too good for you right about now.
FREE SCOT SHIELDS
Some positives
Kazmir was actually throwing a few really good sliders.
In my opinion, this was just his first real game trying to throw his slider for strikes. Although he got shelled, it was mainly because 1) he was trying to throw his slider for strikes = a lot of breaking balls in the zone = HRs, 2) he ran into a very hot team.
Despite his lackluster performance today, I’m actually interested to see how Kazmir does to mix his slider with a well located 92 fastball and his improving change-up.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he does very well from here on out, if he’s got a good hang of his slider.
"Just another Halo victory" - Rory Markas
I'll be optimistic, yet again.
I actually understand what you mean. He was actually releasing some sliders in there. Atleast in the first 5 innings.
You think the wind had any factor with his control?
by maze88 on Jul 5, 2010 11:55 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't think so
It was mostly the breaking balls in the zones. He was able to get Konerko to swing at a slider out of the zone, so that is a good sign that he’s slowly able to work that slider in.
Probably what factored the most was his changeup, which get got burned a couple of times on because he didn’t throw them out of the zone like he was supposed to.
So some control issues. But the sliders that I saw from Kazmir looked really good. He’s pitching a little less scared than normal. And it looks like he got consistent 91-92 MPH fastball velocity that game.
"Just another Halo victory" - Rory Markas
Kazmir appears to be our Dice K.
He pitches like a girl. A clueless, scaredy-cat girl.
I've got nothing.
I think that was the last we see of Kazmir for awhile
The front office will start to look for a temp in the system, then this time next week will be schmoozing with the big wigs at the All Star game looking for a trade or two. Somebody out there likes us better than the Rangers, or has Emperor Bud’s “Plan Z” swung into overdrive.
Btw, did anyone pick Thompson for the pregame question?
or was he even an option on the list?
Thought I had a chance with 2 out in the 6th and a 2-1 game,
Kaz maybe going one more inning,
and what looked like called K3…inning over…
but noooooooooooooo……………
Shoot Kazmir into the Sun
Ok, maybe a little harsh. Time for some DL slash rehab at AAA or something I guess.
Angel Pitching, Angel Defense - get past that.
Re:Kazmir
He looked like he was going to cry Private Pyle…
Watching the game, the difference was he began tipping the slider in the 6th
Early on in the game, he was using the same mechanics for the fastball and the slider- effectively hiding it. He must have tired in the 6th… at some point in the near 30 pitches he threw that inning… and slipped back into evil kazmir mechanics. His arm comes way up before dropping down to the side a bit. Its pretty easy to pick up whats coming and then wait on it just like konerko and guillen did.
On the positive side, if he can fix his mechanics and stay in the same arm slot, we should see much more of the innings 1-5 kazmir soon.
by Balls and Strikes on Jul 6, 2010 7:39 AM PDT reply actions
Honestly, Kazmir is done as a starter...
for now at least. His young arm is burned out. He looks like a slightly better Dontrelle Willis, and his velocity is down from his prime years. He’ll probably never be an effective starter again…or then again, maybe he’ll have a career rebirth later on, like our very own Joel Pineiro. Heck, maybe he should start working on a sinker now…
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