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Kazmir Awful in Chicago, Cliff Lee Trade Requirements.  Halolinks.

Quentin's bat, glove punch out the Angels - CHICAGO SUN-TIMES
Thanks to Carlos Quentin putting on a show with his glove and with two home runs, the Sox manhandled the Los Angeles Angels 9-2 in front of a sold-out crowd Monday night at The Cell. Quentin set the stage for the evening's events in the first inning. With two outs and Howard Kendrick in scoring position, Torii Hunter drove a ball to right field. Quentin dove to his left on a sprint to pull the ball in as he landed on the warning track. Definitely Web-Gem material. (here's the video: Quentin makes a diving grab on the track - Carlos Quentin makes a diving grab on the warning track to rob Torii Hunter of a hit) ''It hurt quite a bit,'' Quentin said. ''That was one of the more painful ones. But I was just happy to keep them from scoring a run in the first inning. It sets the tone. From there, Gavin [Floyd] was great.''

Star-divide

I wonder if its true, does a good first inning highlight play set the tone for the rest of the game?  Perhaps, but I'd guess the crappy pitcher on the mound has a bit more to it than a nice catch at the warning track.  Speaking of nice catches at the warning track, check out Matsui's grab (also listen for the surprise in Victor Rojas' voice when Matsui makes the catch):  Matsui makes a nice catch at the wall - Hideki Matsui tracks A.J. Pierzynski's fly ball and makes a nice catch at the left-field wall.  Why didn't this turn the game around?

Angels-White Sox Preview - 7/6/10 - FOX Sports on MSN
Weaver (8-3, 2.82 ERA) appeared to be a strong candidate for the All-Star team, leading the AL with 124 strikeouts and ranking sixth in ERA. He has been one of baseball's top pitchers over the past few weeks, going 3-0 with a 1.67 ERA and 35 strikeouts in his last four starts.Weaver is 4-0 with a 0.52 ERA in five career starts against Chicago and has given up one run over 19 2-3 innings in winning all three outings at U.S. Cellular Field.  Guillen will give the ball to Jake Peavy (7-6, 4.70), who hopes to bounce back from his first defeat in a month.  Peavy carried a three-start winning streak and 21-inning scoreless stretch into Wednesday's game at Kansas City. The scoreless streak ended with two outs in the first inning, and the right-hander went on to lose for the first time since June 5 after allowing three runs and seven hits in six innings in a 7-6 defeat.  Peavy will be facing the Angels for the first time since getting knocked around for six runs and eight hits in six innings of a 6-5 loss May 20.

Wait a minute.  Jered Weaver didn't get selected for the All-star team?

 

Angels fall apart in 9-2 loss to the White Sox - latimes.com
Yet, there was no spin that could account for what happened to the Angels in the fourth inning of their 9-2 loss to the Chicago White Sox on Monday at U.S. Cellular Field. After White Sox first baseman Paul Konerko struck out and Carlos Quentin walked, Andruw Jones grounded into a double play. Inning over. Except the Angels, having lost track of the outs, remained on the field. For nearly a minute.

They probably didn't believe the inning was over since Kazmir hadn't thrown his 38th pitch of the inning yet.

Have Angels exhausted their 'in-house' options?  - The Orange County Register
A week after admitting that "offensive depth" was his team's greatest need with the trade deadline approaching, Angels manager Mike Scioscia sent out a lineup against the Chicago White Sox Monday that featured three players who weren't even on the Angels' 40-man roster to start the season. The starter at third base (Kevin Frandsen) was claimed on waivers from the Boston Red Sox. The starter at first base (Paul McAnulty) had to play his way onto a Double-A roster this spring, dropping 20 pounds in the process. And the starter in right field (Cory Aldridge) played for nine teams in five organizations plus an independent league in the nine years between his first major-league start (Oct. 6, 2001) and his second (Monday in Chicago).  That sounds like the lineup of a team that has exhausted its internal options and will have to go outside the organization to get the offensive boost it needs to catch the Texas Rangers in the A.L. West – doesn't it? "No," Scioscia said.

No, the Angels haven't exhausted their internal options yet.  There are still a few minor leaguers floating around who have been released by the Red Sox (Frandsen and McAnulty) or have a career MINOR league batting average of .267 (Aldridge) they haven't trotted out on the field yet this season.  Although the Angels offense isn't that bad, it is pretty sad when the player who is being counted on to boost the offense is Macier Isturis.

Minnesota Twins may go all out to land Cliff Lee -  FOX Sports on MSN
The buzz Monday night, generating from an unconfirmed report on AOL Fanhouse and circulating in the scouting community, was that the Twins offered Hicks, catcher Wilson Ramos and possibly a third, less promising prospect for Lee.Hicks, 19, is not as close to the majors as LaPorta was then, but he is the Twins’ No. 1 prospect according to Baseball America. He's a switch-hitting, five-tool outfielder with the defensive ability to excel at Seattle’s spacious Safeco Field.Ramos, 21, is the Twins’ No. 2 prospect according to Baseball America, though he has been slowed by an oblique injury and has only a .563 OPS at Triple-A.

If this is true in regards to the quality of prospects it'd take to land Cliff Lee, the Angels will probably be dealt out of this hand as they lack the depth of quality prospects to get a deal like this done.  I wonder what Jarrod Washburn is doing these days?

Umpire loses count, issues three-ball walk - Video MLB.com
Xavier Paul battles Rodrigo Lopez for eight pitches and Bruce Dreckman loses the count and awards a three-ball walk in the second.

Slowly I turn. Step by step...inch by inch...and then suddenly...robots!

Texas Rangers agree to hold auction for team sale - USATODAY.com
The Texas Rangers plan to hold an auction next week for the team's sale in hopes of getting the bankruptcy plan approved, according to a court motion filed Monday. The team, which had a pending sale to a group led by Pittsburgh attorney Chuck Greenberg and Hall of Fame pitcher and team president Nolan Ryan, set a July 16 auction for bidders who meet certain Major League Baseball requirements.

Who's got some extra cash laying around in their Paypal account?

A couple Angel fans decide fists must be used to prove their point - Youtube

One guy says, "Weaver is awesome!" and the other guys yells back, "No, Weaver is FRICKIN' awesome".  And then they see who has the bigger gut.

July 6 - BR Bullpen 2
1933 - At Chicago's Comiskey Park, the first ever All-Star Game is played. Babe Ruth's two-run home run helps the American League defeat the Senior Circuit, 4 - 2. John McGraw comes out of retirement to manage the NL.
1936 - After the first batter is thrown out trying to bunt, Bob Feller, a 17-year old farm boy from Van Meter, Iowa, strikes out 8 consecutive batters in three innings during an All-Star break exhibition game against the Cardinals' Gas House Gang. It is the rookie's first appearance in a major league uniform.
1962 - The Indians regain first place from the Angels, as Ruben Gomez beats Early Wynn and the White Sox 5 - 3.
1989 - Mike Schmidt becomes the first retired player to be elected to start an All-Star Game. The Phillies third baseman, who announced his retirement on May 29, is hitting only .203 this season and decides not to play.
1997 - At Anaheim, Chuck Finley allows four hits and strikes out 13 to lead the Angels to a 8 - 0 shutout over the Mariners. Dave Hollins' fourth inning grand slam is the big blow, while Darin Erstad also homers, the first by a lefty off Jeff Fassero (8-5) in over three years. Tim Salmon also hits a solo homer in the third, his third in three games.

 

Paging Mr. Slider, Mr. Major League Slider:

Los Angeles Angels
Erick Aybar, SS 4 1 1 0 0 0 1 .282
Howard Kendrick, 2B 4 0 3 1 0 0 1 .277
Bobby Abreu, DH 4 0 0 1 0 2 3 .256
Torii Hunter, CF 2 0 1 0 2 0 1 .296
Hideki Matsui, LF 3 0 0 0 1 0 2 .257
Paul McAnulty, 1B 2 0 0 0 1 2 0 .167
   a- Mike Napoli, PH-1B 1 0 0 0 0 1 3 .255
Kevin Frandsen, 3B 4 0 0 0 0 0 1 .324
Cory Aldridge, RF 4 0 0 0 0 1 0 .000
Bobby Wilson, C 3 1 1 0 1 0 1 .196
Totals 31 2 6 2 5 6    
a-struck out for McAnulty in the 8th
Batting
2B - Erick Aybar (15, Floyd), Howard Kendrick (20, Floyd)
RBI - Howard Kendrick (51), Bobby Abreu (44)
SB - Howard Kendrick (9, 2nd base off Jenks/Pierzynski)
Team LOB - 7
Fielding
DP - Aybar-Kendrick-McAnulty, Kendrick-Aybar-McAnulty
E - Torii Hunter (1, Dropped fly), Mike Napoli (7, Misplayed grounder)

Chicago White Sox
Juan Pierre, LF 3 1 0 0 2 0 1 .256
Alexei Ramirez, SS 4 1 2 2 0 0 0 .281
Alex Rios, DH 4 0 0 0 0 1 3 .299
Paul Konerko, 1B 4 1 2 1 0 1 2 .299
Carlos Quentin, RF 3 2 2 3 1 1 1 .234
Andruw Jones, CF 3 2 0 0 1 1 1 .190
A.J. Pierzynski, C 4 0 0 0 0 0 2 .240
Dayan Viciedo, 3B 4 1 2 2 0 0 1 .269
Brent Lillibridge, 2B 3 1 1 1 1 1 2 .467
Totals 32 9 9 9 5 5    
Batting
HR - Alexei Ramirez (8, Kazmir), Carlos Quentin 2 (15, Kazmir, Thompson), Dayan Viciedo (1, Kazmir)
RBI - Alexei Ramirez 2 (33), Paul Konerko (58), Carlos Quentin 3 (53), Dayan Viciedo 2 (3), Brent Lillibridge (7)
2-OUT RBI - Paul Konerko (24), Carlos Quentin 2 (22), Brent Lillibridge (1)
SB - Andruw Jones (8, 2nd base off Kazmir/Wilson), Brent Lillibridge (1, 2nd base off Kazmir/Wilson)
PK - Brent Lillibridge (1, Kazmir)
Team LOB - 4
Fielding
DP - Konerko-A. Ramirez, A. Ramirez-Lillibridge-Konerko
 
Los Angeles Angels
Scott Kazmir (L,7-8) 6.1 6 7 7 5 3 3 5.98
Rich Thompson 1.2 3 2 1 0 2 1 5.40
WP - Rich Thompson 2 (2)
Pitches-Strikes - Scott Kazmir 110-58, Rich Thompson 33-21
Ground Balls-Fly Balls - Scott Kazmir 8-6, Rich Thompson 2-2
Batters Faced - Scott Kazmir 28, Rich Thompson 9

Chicago White Sox
Gavin Floyd (W,4-7) 7 5 1 1 2 4 0 4.43
Bobby Jenks 0.2 1 1 1 2 1 0 4.25
Erick Threets 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0.00
Sergio Santos (S,1) 1.1 0 0 0 0 1 0 2.03
Pitches-Strikes - Gavin Floyd 97-62, Bobby Jenks 24-13, Erick Threets 5-1, Sergio Santos 20-12
Ground Balls-Fly Balls - Gavin Floyd 13-2, Bobby Jenks 1-0, Sergio Santos 2-1
Batters Faced - Gavin Floyd 26, Bobby Jenks 5, Erick Threets 1, Sergio Santos 4
 
Game Information
Attendance - 38092
Game Time - 2:49
Temperature - 86
Umpires - Home - Mike Reilly, First Base - Chad Fairchild, Second Base - Eric Cooper, Third Base - Bill Miller
Poll
Scott Kazmir...
Put a fork in him, he's done.
309 votes
Keep him in the rotation.
121 votes

430 votes | Poll has closed

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old Yeller = Kazmir

put the dog down

"Fundamentals are a crutch for the talentless" - Kenny Powers

by DAD OF VLAD on Jul 6, 2010 8:18 AM PDT reply actions  

July 3 fight...

the big fella ended up nearly disrobed. I could see the full moon from my seats in 240 F. Also, with the binocs I saw that a couple of the guys in the rumble were wearing Dodger hats.

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Jul 6, 2010 8:20 AM PDT reply actions  

Shoddy camera work on the fight...

…he/she might as well have stuck the camera up their arse for all that we can see going on

I see red people

by The Limey on Jul 6, 2010 8:30 AM PDT reply actions  

Matsui's great catch...

… Yeah where was the momentum from that? Oh yeah Mariah was pitching.

by AlohaHalofan on Jul 6, 2010 8:31 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

still...

that catch was insane and put out the torii hunter offensive fire that was raging a bit. game could have turned out differently.

it could’ve been 9-3.

really, though, kazmir needs to figure it out. what are our options on getting that done? can he go back to AAA? or make him long relief.

it’s funny to read a thousand stories about dontrelle willis but none about our own flameout. sorry, kaz, but you can’t be a starter for us anymore.

i’d sure sign washburn. he CAN’T be worse than kazmir.

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart - Always an Angel

by Kernel on Jul 6, 2010 8:34 AM PDT reply actions  

washburd struggled at the end last year, but he still had a pretty decent year- especially for someone who cant find a job

I saw him quoted as saying he no longer has a list of teams, he just hopes anyone will give him a job again.

by Balls and Strikes on Jul 6, 2010 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Let's trade for Omar Infante

ALL STAR!

"You gotta have nuts." / "Coming Around 3rd, especially if I'm ticked off, that's going to happen." - Torii Hunter

by Commander_Nate on Jul 6, 2010 8:40 AM PDT reply actions  

I'm thinking Weaver for Infante

Got to give up some serious talent for an All-Star like Infante

by ~MMP~ on Jul 6, 2010 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

How 'bout Votto for a low-A prospect?

Seems about right for someone less talented than Infante.

"You gotta have nuts." / "Coming Around 3rd, especially if I'm ticked off, that's going to happen." - Torii Hunter

by Commander_Nate on Jul 6, 2010 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

We can't have both Infante and Lee.....

……we have only one Quinlan to include in the deals.

by mustard_man on Jul 6, 2010 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

No, we need our 5th outfielder just in case

It’ll be tough for Reagins, but he needs to trade McAnulty. Pound for pound, he’s literally twice the player of anyone we have on roster.

by mustard_man on Jul 6, 2010 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Did you see Infante's quote?

He said that he picked up his phone and in the display was the name of his GM. He was worried that he had been traded. He had no idea that he might be getting an “all-star selection” phone call.

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Jul 6, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought Yokozuna was dead, but apparently he was at Angel Stadium July 3rd

As for Kazmir, I’m not sure what to do with him. Maybe his arm is gone and it’s probably too much to ask of him to rediscover the extra 3-4mph on his fastball or the bite in his slider. But for chrissakes, please find your head and your nutsack. The ASB can’t come soon enough for this…

by Big Easy Halofan on Jul 6, 2010 8:56 AM PDT reply actions  

That fight was Saturday night...

It even had the guys in the bullpen checking it out. It lasted a lot longer than that, guys kept coming back and jumping over security. But really….these security guards probably need to lose their jobs. They treated this like a Jerry Springer episode, letting the guys duke it out.

by firebird81 on Jul 6, 2010 9:03 AM PDT reply actions  

Yeah I was pretty surprised on how hands off they were

usually fights are broken up much quicker. I think I even saw them betting on it.

W6G

by RexTookMyStash on Jul 6, 2010 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

in their defense...

they were probably wondering why the one dude was giving the other guy a noogie.

by firebird81 on Jul 6, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

A fight in left field?

The whole family can enjoy that one!

What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.

by clover_black on Jul 6, 2010 9:08 AM PDT reply actions  

Nice shot of Portman

I liked her in Garden State and Cold Mountain
I applaud your efforts to introduce beauty into our lives again after the ugliness that was yesterday’s game

by Raaddad on Jul 6, 2010 9:27 AM PDT reply actions  

Any Slashdotters out there?

She could pour hot grits down your pants.

Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch

by red floyd on Jul 6, 2010 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Slash doesn't have any daughters.

"I came back with an I-Don't-Care attitude. If I had an open shot, I was taking it."
--The Robert Horry

I bleed Purple N' Gold and Silver N' Black... because of this rare condition, I am no longer allowed to donate to the Red Cross.

by The_Power_and_the_Glory_of_Robert_Horry on Jul 6, 2010 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

So if she is bad in one movie, it’s the writer/director’s fault, but if you liked her in Garden State and Cold Mountain she gets the credit?

by Higz on Jul 6, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

On behalf of myself, Scottnak, and all other "Scott"s out there, I'd like to apologize

for Scott Kazmir.

Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch

by red floyd on Jul 6, 2010 9:37 AM PDT reply actions  

What about Scot?

I don’t think you’re qualified there buddy.

"You gotta have nuts." / "Coming Around 3rd, especially if I'm ticked off, that's going to happen." - Torii Hunter

by Commander_Nate on Jul 6, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hope that the M's accept the Twins offer

looking at what those two prospects have done, neither of them looks like an impact type guy in the future. Major League regulars probably, but Hicks is repeating the Mid-West league and striking out more than once a game and getting caught stealing almost as much as he’s stealing bases.

by MH252525 on Jul 6, 2010 9:38 AM PDT reply actions  

Win

on the Natalie Portman pic

by Zookeeper on Jul 6, 2010 9:41 AM PDT reply actions  

2 things

I too wish the Angels would sweet-talk Washburn into coming back. If any team could do it, it would be us. He’s the only kind of gamble I think we can take this season. If we mean to contend, we can’t give up players hardly anyone in a trade. I just wonder if he’s been throwing at all, or if it would take 2 months for him to get back into shape.

As for the Twins, Lee, and trade talks, I agree with what Rev posted July 4th. I would rather throw in the towel, trade off some of our expensive guys like Rodney, Fuentes, Saunders, Abreu, Matsui…and start fresh next year, rather than trade our last vestige of decent prospects for a rental. Meanwhile, we could keep giving some young guys MLB experience (Wood tops the list) without the pressure of a pennant race, we would solve our DH problem for next year, and hopefully get some good draft picks.

The last time we rented a U-haul, did it get us to the WS? No! And the team to which we added Teix was already better than the team we have now. One rental will not help us this season. 1 new starter, 1 good bat, and a whole new bullpen would help. Hmm, who can we trade for all that? Start the bidding with Quinlan.

Man, it really bums me out to realize that I’m already thinking about next season at the beginning of July.

"jut keep winning babt" - Moondoggy

by Rally Manatee on Jul 6, 2010 11:54 AM PDT reply actions  

I don't think the Angels are in the run for Lee but

as far as a rental goes, Teixeira was like a U-haul trailor where Cliff Lee would be like renting a giant earth moving tractor. Big difference, you can literally count on winning every game Lee pitches in where Teixeira was hit and miss and especially miss in the playoffs.

I'm not as bad as all of you.

by 44FAN on Jul 6, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Correction

You can count on Lee leaving the game winning every time he pitches (just like Weaver), but he’ll still have to turn it over to the same blowpen we are blessed with this year. I know he pitches a fair amount of complete games, but this aint the 70’s. He’s not going to go the distance every time.

"jut keep winning babt" - Moondoggy

by Rally Manatee on Jul 6, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think our bullpen is any worse than Seattle's, so I don't think that plays in to it that much.

Lee pitches routinely eight innings or more so the closer is most often the bullpen guy that comes in to play. I would take Fuentes over Aardsma in that case.

I'm not as bad as all of you.

by 44FAN on Jul 6, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with you about Lee

but how heavy of a price would you be willing to pay for 7-10 potential wins by Lee?

He’s good but with our offense I don’t think there’s such a thing as ‘guaranteed wins.’

W6G

by RexTookMyStash on Jul 6, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fuentes vs. Kazmir: the battle of suckage

Fuentes has blown 5 saves and lost 1 game. Kazmir has lost 8. Fuentes has done his damage in only 24.1 innings, whereas Kaz has pitched 87.1. So, who’s really done the most damage to our team? It’s hard to gauge, but Kazmir only has a chance to screw us every 5 days. Fuentes has the chance to screw us almost every night. Add to this the fact that Fuentes isn’t even the worst pitcher in our bullpen. There are plenty of guys conspiring to blow leads on a daily basis. My point is, I’d rather fix our bullpen than get another starter.

"jut keep winning babt" - Moondoggy

by Rally Manatee on Jul 6, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Seattle will not trade Lee

to interleague rivals.

"Just another Halo victory" - Rory Markas

by Slyintine on Jul 6, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

interdivision*

"Just another Halo victory" - Rory Markas

by Slyintine on Jul 6, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

divisional*

"Just another Halo victory" - Rory Markas

by Slyintine on Jul 6, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

They're out of the playoffs though and need a lot of rebuilding.

Do you really think they would pass on a tasty package of prospects and starters just to spite us?

W6G

by RexTookMyStash on Jul 6, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think we are anywhere near the point of selling off pieces, but I agree making a Lee type move isn't the right move either.

If we can get some inexpensive pieces perhaps to help the bullpen, or someone who could be around more than this year, then it’s worth looking into. Expensive rental players aren’t though.

by ~MMP~ on Jul 6, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

You just described...

…Washburn! He had a nice 1/2 a season off. I’m sure he’s getting cabin fever by now.

"jut keep winning babt" - Moondoggy

by Rally Manatee on Jul 6, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

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