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Rangers Bullpen Won't Survive Season

In case you did not hear, the Rangers blew a 6-2 lead with 2 outs in the bottom of the 9th by allowing Corey Patterson to hit his first career grand slam (off of Neftali Feliz) to tie it and won it with a Jake Fox solo homer in the 10th. Thank you, Baltimore! I'm laughing at all of Rick Dempsey's postgame quips on DirecTV more than I would Leno, that is for sure.

The Achilles heel of the Rangers is the gassed bullpen. Can Cliff Lee pitch 15 Complete Games and give them a rest? Can Ron Washington lay off the nose candy enough to not impulsively walk to the mound just to step on the white lines? That bullpen in Arlington might make the Rangers season look like this stick market failure of a chart, a rollercoaster with all downslide after the All Star Break...

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I agree

Angel Pitching, Angel Defense - get past that.

by vladtheimpaler on Jul 9, 2010 11:46 PM PDT reply actions  

I think you're forgetting....

They also landed MArk Lowe in that deal. Will he save their season? No, but he will help a taxed bullpen. BTW, which teams starters go further into games than any other in baseball? The Angels of course. You can blame the blowpen for that one though.

Do you suppose our starters will end up being gassed, because that seems almost as likely as their relievers becoming gassed.

THe Angels will win, but it will have more to do with our hitting resurgence in the 2nd half and a strong rotation, over a weakened Texas pen.

We betrayed Vlad, the greatest Angel. Epic fail.

by Halowood on Jul 10, 2010 12:06 AM PDT reply actions  

Not like his stats are any worse than Rodney's are getting....

Look at this from an unbiased standpoint.

We betrayed Vlad, the greatest Angel. Epic fail.

by Halowood on Jul 10, 2010 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't know that.

We betrayed Vlad, the greatest Angel. Epic fail.

by Halowood on Jul 10, 2010 12:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I saw that noted.

"You gotta have nuts." / "Coming Around 3rd, especially if I'm ticked off, that's going to happen." - Torii Hunter

by Commander_Nate on Jul 10, 2010 12:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

That is correct

"I can't tell people what to think or not to think. Their perceptions are their perceptions. We just feel we've taken a step forward. At the end of the day, we have to play 162 games. Once that happens then we'll be able to evaluate the offseason moves."~Tony Reagins, on the Angels' offseason

by George Kaplan on Jul 10, 2010 6:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Awesome!!

I saw a news flash that the Orioles had bases juiced with 1 out in the 9th.
As a switched channels I allowed myself to dream that the Orioles would slam.
Then I remembered they were the Orioles and my pipe dream went up in smoke.
This is so cool.

by Halo Hurricane on Jul 10, 2010 12:28 AM PDT reply actions  

huh? Isn't that what we're doing?

  I would gladly trade our bullpen for theirs straight up.

by Wally's World on Jul 10, 2010 12:45 AM PDT reply actions  

in hindsight yes

but going forward they may have Jake-Peavy-Arms before September!

by Rev Halofan on Jul 10, 2010 12:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, exactly

Last I looked, the Angels’ bullpen was second or third worst in the league by ERA.

Witty .sig goes here.

by scareduck on Jul 10, 2010 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ours can be just as much of a risk

Rodney should be made closer – it’s the only time he’s worth anything. Fuentes should be a lefty specialist. Kohn should get a shot and Thompson should get more time. If that doesn’t start turning things around by the deadline, then trade one of our spare catchers for a solid reliever.

The AL West will likely come down to pitching.

"You gotta have nuts." / "Coming Around 3rd, especially if I'm ticked off, that's going to happen." - Torii Hunter

by Commander_Nate on Jul 10, 2010 12:50 AM PDT reply actions  

That because Rodney can't be trusted with inherited runners.

One look at his WHIP and you’ll see he can only survive if he can start an inning with a clean slate. And notice I said survive, not do well.

This pen blows. When will the front office re-learn how to build a bullpen?

by snowhor on Jul 10, 2010 1:22 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Haha what a dirtbag...

“We’re a better team—100 percent. When we play up to our capabilities, it might not be that close. We have a better balance to our team. They have good pitching, but their offense is like, I don’t know. We have more wins. It’s pretty simple. I’d rather take our offense. I’d rather take our defense. I’d much rather have our bullpen.”

—LHP C.J. Wilson, comparing the Rangers to the Angels after Los Angeles took two of three from Texas last week

by IWishWeStillHadTimSalmon on Jul 10, 2010 12:52 AM PDT reply actions  

Can't honestly say I disagree with any of that

Unfortunately.

SELL SELL SELL!

NA, #34 SP, LAA
Light up the Halo for Nick!

More Howie please...

by hk47 on Jul 12, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Are you one of the Duke brothers?

Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch

by red floyd on Jul 12, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

If scoscia would play matchups more instead of just having a set closer we would be better off.

it just seems rodney just doesn’t care when he is just setting up but has the edge when he is closing. He is just rotting away as the set up man.

Now that Lackey has turned to the enemy lets kick his ass

by Angelsrthebest101 on Jul 10, 2010 1:07 AM PDT reply actions  

Yeah I don't get this sh1t...

I know they would rather Rodney just magically throw away his big weakness in not being able to get up for anything but a close…yet it won’t happen. It’s Russian roullette otherwise.

Use him as our closer for a bit again and put Fuentes as the set up man. He’ll still stay focused because he knows that he might be out shopping for a contract and needs to look good.

by RedFog on Jul 10, 2010 1:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

If this is true

he should be released today. The man gets paid to pitch and should be able to “get up” for any situation. I know what the numbers say. Even though he didn’t blow a lot of games last year, and was solid for about a week earlier this year in save situations, his career numbers consistently say one thing: he’s wild and mostly unreliable. Bad signing, and a big part of why we probably won’t win the division this year.

by dmhead on Jul 10, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wish this made me feel better

After watching Rodney tonight, I still have to believe the bullpen is advantage Rangers.

by Suboptimal on Jul 10, 2010 1:39 AM PDT reply actions  

It was only one game.

Though it was hilariously enjoyable to watch Patterson hit the grand slam off of Netfail Neftail Nefertiti Feliz, there is still way too much baseball to be played.

by XYZ123 on Jul 10, 2010 1:56 AM PDT reply actions  

You see that first pitch he fouled off? He crushed it!

Then the HR was an upper deck shot! I love watching the fat white trash Rangers fans have their hearts broken.

We betrayed Vlad, the greatest Angel. Epic fail.

by Halowood on Jul 10, 2010 2:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I laughed at the bit with Feliz' first name

It reminded me of a sign shown on TV during one of the 2002 ALCS games in Minnesota (probably Game 1). It said something like this:

GO MENKEE MENKTIE MAINKY DOUG!

by rspencer on Jul 10, 2010 3:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

If he was ours, I'd call him "NIFTY"

But he’s not, so net-fail is just dandy.

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Jul 10, 2010 7:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

This

NA, #34 SP, LAA
Light up the Halo for Nick!

More Howie please...

by hk47 on Jul 10, 2010 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'll be the 8th rec

The Texas bullpen blows it in two games and suddenly its the death of the team. You wanna talk about bullpens being crappy, how about looking at ours!

If the Texas bullpen is its achilles heel, then our bullpen is lung cancer.

dissenter, dubious and devil's advocate to blog monitors everywhere.

by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Jul 10, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

pancreatic cancer

NA, #34 SP, LAA
Light up the Halo for Nick!

More Howie please...

by hk47 on Jul 11, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you want to see what "bipolar" looks like, read LSB

Specifically, this

After the drunken euphoria of yesterday afternoon following the trade, the “fans” on LSB are already mourning the loss of Smoak and coming to the realization that they’ll have Lee for the remainder of this season and no more.

You’ll also see a graphic example of why Rev has his one-F-bomb-per-month rule, as the prose gets numbing quickly.

"I can't tell people what to think or not to think. Their perceptions are their perceptions. We just feel we've taken a step forward. At the end of the day, we have to play 162 games. Once that happens then we'll be able to evaluate the offseason moves."~Tony Reagins, on the Angels' offseason

by George Kaplan on Jul 10, 2010 6:11 AM PDT reply actions  

They had a post leading up to the trade...

and everyone was saying “no way do we give up Smoak for Lee” and people were pissed when the story broke. Funny.

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Jul 10, 2010 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

Like giving up SRod for Kazmir.

RIP Nick...

Jim Scully
Jim Scully Home

by jimmuscomp on Jul 10, 2010 11:45 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

No, much more so

An entire response thread of a typical LSB post is like a Tarantino script without the wit.

To be fair, there are some great writers over there, but some of the infighting is especially profane and nasty. I am certainly not suggesting that there aren’t “discussions” here which get heated, but the cap on expletives finds a way to keep the posts tolerable (and, I believe, more thoughtful).

"I can't tell people what to think or not to think. Their perceptions are their perceptions. We just feel we've taken a step forward. At the end of the day, we have to play 162 games. Once that happens then we'll be able to evaluate the offseason moves."~Tony Reagins, on the Angels' offseason

by George Kaplan on Jul 10, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ha, you made another one...

“numbing” and “cocaine”? Ha! Unwittingly, no doubt, as is usually for humor from you?

Oh, and outside of Texas we don’t capitalize “cocaine”.

"That's the true harbinger of spring, not crocuses or swallows returning to Capistrano, but the sound of a bat on a ball." ~Bill Veeck

by LAASurfin on Jul 10, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Outside of California, we put the quotation marks after the period, not before

You grammar “genius,” you.

"I don’t know how these SN blog authors get their gigs, but I’m frankly surprised SN tolerates AJM’s lack of effort." Tex34

At the end of the day.... Nolan Ryan will be the next control owner of the Texas Rangers Baseball Club.
by bigoil on Jul 7, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions

by Brian Thomas on Jul 11, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

The F-Bomb rule.

The one game where Rev waived the rule was pretty funny, but I wouldn’t want it happening every game.

Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch

by red floyd on Jul 10, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

^ This ^

Agree totally. Sign all our draft choices. Dump the AAAA players on the 40-man roster. Trade the aging talent. Get younger for 2011.

The scary thing about Texas is not Lee, it’s that their MLB talent is younger and their farm system is deeper than anyone else in the AL West. We previously depend on their ownership to screw up the team, unfortunately that dog won’t hunt much more into the future. The Halos front office had better display a higher IQ going forward with their baseball decisions (e.g. HGH, Speier, Wood, not signing draft picks, etc.)

by mustard_man on Jul 10, 2010 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Can Ron Washington lay off the nose candy enough to not impulsively walk to the mound just to step on the white lines?

That was funny.

The team is tired and seems to be having a let down after the series in Anahiem last week. The real challange for the Rangers starts after the ASB.

by RangerMad on Jul 10, 2010 7:43 AM PDT reply actions  

No, it starts DURING the ASB

As thousands of Angels fans with bags of coke seek out Ron Washington for a little party.

by firebird81 on Jul 10, 2010 7:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

You gotta admit…..it would be HILARIOUS for Cliff Lee to arrive in Texas just in time for the annual implosion! Poor guy! I can’t remember such a talented, low-maintenance player getting thrown around the majors as much as he has been.

by firebird81 on Jul 10, 2010 7:53 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I watched the end of two great games today

I’ve been in the Philippines for almost two weeks. The souls of Americans lost on Corrigedore cry out to Americans to never be disheartened. Esspecially when it it just for a game.

     Sorry to get too deep but ordinary “Joes” like us paid dearly for us to babble on about how our baseball team will preform. Go Angels but keep it in prespective.

Who goofed? I've got to know.

by hittheg on Jul 10, 2010 8:16 AM PDT reply actions  

The death march was horrible.

The POW camp they marched to – Cabanatuan – was almost as bad. It’s hard to believe any man could survive under those conditions.

by sothball on Jul 10, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

My Uncle fought in the Pacific in the Navy.

He survived but lived with severe PTSS the rest of his life.

I'm not as bad as all of you.

by 44FAN on Jul 10, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Apparently that theatre was particularly horrible

My wife has an uncle with a similar affliction who was there, and my Dad, while he came out of it all right, would not talk about it, even though he talked about other aspects of his WW II service with great affection.

by rspencer on Jul 10, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's the same reaction as the writer's father of "Flags of out Fathers" (Jams Bradley).

Most servicemen returned and were mentally/physically/spiritually healthy, but they just didn’t want to discuss combat events.

Bradley’s dad eventually eventually recounted some rather horrible carnage on Iwo Jima. Nasty stuff.

by sothball on Jul 10, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Your uncle is a hero.

My cousin sent this link about his brother in law. I have seen the story of action in Afganistan on the Military Channel. Lest we forget those who choose to serve.

http://www.mensjournal.com/what-the-war-did-to-andy

by rmhalofan on Jul 10, 2010 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought Arte himself summed it up wonderfully

when he was asked by Simers if he was stressed out by the Angels’ problems this season:

“I’m a Vietnam vet; stress is when someone is shooting at you,”

All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine.

by Quad Fin Rider on Jul 10, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm currently reading the book "The Pacific".

Your perspective is spot on. I’d love to go visit some of the battle locations (Guadalcanal, Bouganville, Midway, Okinawa, etc). I’m envious! Any photos?

by sothball on Jul 10, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Have you read "Guadalcanal" by Richard B. Frank?

As a person who reads a lot of history books, I think it’s probably the most fascinating, throughly researched account of any WWII battle I’ve ever read.

All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine.

by Quad Fin Rider on Jul 10, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had the same feeling at Pearl.

We were going out to the Arizona memorial on a foggy, cloudy day. You could hear the ghosts.

On the way back, the sun broke through the clouds, and there was a rainbow, with the end right on top of the memorial. I’ve got a picture of it somewhere (film not digital :-(, so I can’t post it).

Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch

by red floyd on Jul 10, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Our bullpen
has the potential to be better. Jepsen, Thompson, Shields is starting to bounce back. Sosh just doesn’t believe in matchups for the BP to be truly dominant. When will Sosh learn that Fuentes can’t get both leftys and rightys like Percy or K-Rod could. Kohn is wasting his talents in AAA. Our starters (excluding Kazmir), guys like Joe are starting to pitch better. Santana and Pinerio have been consistent. I mean Pinerio had a 97 pitch CG against these As last time he faced them.

by phoenix15 on Jul 10, 2010 8:35 AM PDT reply actions  

Can we stay keep within 4 or 5 games of Texas throughout July and August?

Assuming the answer to the above question is yes. Than it will boil down to beating the Rangers. It’s that simple! And let’s say that we do. We are at best the AL West Champs and done in the first round of the playoffs.

Let’s all join hands and pray.

When I'm not at the stadium, I'd rather be watching my Halos back in Costa Rica!

by Dono Romantico on Jul 10, 2010 11:31 AM PDT reply actions  

Braun or Soriano!!

Rangers?!?!? Comon what the heck is all this Ranger talk all about?! They are obviously doing what they need to do to knock us off the top! So what the heck are we going to do? Our team stinks right now, (BULLPEN AND OFFENSE). I say forget about aquiring a corner infielder, I like Frandzen and NAP and Izzy’s on his way. How about getting a power hitting LF like Ryan Braun of Alfonso Soriano? Rivera isn’t what he used to be, which wasn’t much anyway, heck the guy can’t even see!! Put him on the bench to platoon at DH with Mat-sucki! LET’S GO REAGINS, WHAT IS ARTE PAYING YOU FOR!!??

by TonyB14 on Jul 10, 2010 12:46 PM PDT reply actions  

ESPN says the Rangers have a 99.3% chance of winning the division.

Some fancy computer spouted out some numbers.

99.3%? WTF?
I’d love to get some money down on the Angels at that line.

I've got nothing.

by bc56274 on Jul 10, 2010 1:01 PM PDT reply actions  

That's just ludicrous

I love the faux precision: “99.3%”.

by rspencer on Jul 10, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did you see it? It was on ESPNnews this morning

They said the Rangers were like 94% to win the division before acquiring Cliff Lee, and 99.3% after.

I’m just wondering if I somehow interpreted it wrong.

I've got nothing.

by bc56274 on Jul 10, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying you're ludicrous

Just to be perfectly clear (and clearly perfect), I was commenting on ESPN’s prediction and agreeing with your observations thereon.

by rspencer on Jul 10, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

actually

it is 90.3 % certain that Texas will win the division wit a thousand seasons played out on computer with the current rosters.

That gives us a one hundred percent chance of winning the division by playing the games on the field.

by Rev Halofan on Jul 10, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know about the Rev

But the figures are all right here on my keyboard, to the right of the arrow keys. I just hit them randomly, just like ESPN’s computer simulation of a chimpanzee typing.

by rspencer on Jul 10, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

That simulation freak Xiefrank or whatever his name is.

He does a fanpost ever now and then when the mood strikes him. Search and you shall find in the archives….

I'm not as bad as all of you.

by 44FAN on Jul 10, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

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