Peter Bourjos Called Up
by angelsx3714 on Aug 1, 2010 9:33 PM PDT
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PrintAccording to Tom Krasovic, the Angels have called up speedy outfielder Peter Bourjos (Krasovic's Twitter Link and his article on the move).
UPDATE Confirmed: at the LA Angels Insider.com site. Corresponding roster move has not yet been announced. Bourjos will join the team before Tuesday's game in Baltimore.
Now new questions arise. How much time will he get in the outfield? Could he be a crucial part in toppling the Rangers?
However much time he gets up here or how important he will be remains to be seen, but many Angel fans, including me, have been calling for this for days and seems that our demands have been met. In my opinion, it'll be better than crossing our fingers and hoping Juan Rivera catches a ball out there.
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WOO HOO!!!!!
I hope to God we give him a chance to start and not be treated as a fifth outfielder.
Torii Hunter has some Brain Movage
It is also being confirmed by LA Angels Insider
http://twitter.com/LAANGELSINSIDER/status/20114827344
Torii Hunter has some Brain Movage
the only way is if Juan sits
and he’s actually been one of our hotter hitters in July
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.
The benefit of defense I think will
Overcome the difference in Slugging.
Torii Hunter has some Brain Movage
+1
Particularly since it seems like Bobby is wearing down
That would be a weird platoon
Considering both are lefties. Career-wise, Matsui has been fine against lefties, but this season he seems to be guessing when they’re on the mound. Abreu was fine against lefties last year, but is abysmal this season.
Who knows? I just know that I’m going to be awfully excited the first time I see Bourjos run something down in the OF.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Yeah I hate both of their bats against lefties
I’m guessing Bourjos is probably going to play against lefties with Juan DH’ing. And Juan probably playing the field with Matsui DH’ing against righties.
Maybe Matsui is a goner?
There really should be a platoon here, with Juan playing against lefties and Abreu/Matsui alternating days off against lefties.
"That boy is our last hope" - Obi Wan Scioscia, as Francisco Rodriguez left for the Mets. "No, there is another" - Yoda Reagins.
He could just rotate through the outfield.
He’s young. Give all those old timers a break. Let’s see what he can do. None of this Reggie Willits stuff. Pinch running, late game defensive replacement, etc.
I want to see him play everyday!
Any time you think you have the game conquered the game will turn around and punch you right in the nose.
Mike Schmidt
by Monkeyspanked on Aug 1, 2010 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Willits has kinda redeemed himself this year.
.355 OBP isn’t great, but sadly it’s high for this team. 14 runs scored in only 95 AB. 12 BB and only 11 K. Plus, he looks amazing in the OF compared to our old men.
"jut keep winning babt" - Moondoggy
by Rally Manatee on Aug 2, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
YUS!!!
WTY's ERA+ = 135 : - / -- Kevin Frandsen > Brandon Wood??????
by Figgi4life on Aug 1, 2010 10:05 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
If the Angels call him up and don't play him at least 4 games a week
then IMO this is stupid just like all the times they did the exact same thing to Wood. If he has a good game against a stud pitcher and then rides pine for a week, I think myself and a lot of other Angels fans will be upset.
Good Luck Peter! We’ll all be rooting for you!
Considering Abreu and Matsui's struggles against lefties, and Bourjos's 1.080 OPS against him, I'm guessing he'll see a lot of playing time against lefties with one of Abreu/Matsui getting the day off.
Hopefully he gets a little more playing time than that though
No reason to do so
They haven’t really replaced him with anyone. If they had picked up a genuine 3B in the meantime I’d assume it was over, but no rational person considers Callaspo, Izturis or Frandsen to be a first-string solution.
The rosters go to 40 in one month but the team might have a plan for him in the offseason and one more chance next Spring. After all that has been invested in him, getting him a hypnotist might be a good place to start, get some of that regressive mental energy out of his brain.
"I can't tell people what to think or not to think. Their perceptions are their perceptions. We just feel we've taken a step forward. At the end of the day, we have to play 162 games. Once that happens then we'll be able to evaluate the offseason moves."~Tony Reagins, on the Angels' offseason
by George Kaplan on Aug 1, 2010 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
The Organization does consider Callaspo a first-string solution
Otherwise he wouldn’t have been acquired.
Torii Hunter has some Brain Movage
Maybe
Or maybe he makes Izturis trade bait in the offseason. Izturis is signed for about $7M over 2011-12 and very affordable, but we know his durability is in question. He’d be good depth for some team, while Callaspo gives the Angels much the same depth, but in his arb years through 2013.
Alternatively, it gives the team the chance to trade Kendrick (I don’t see Aybar as available) with Izturis moving to 2B and Callaspo the understudy for the middle and left side of the infield.
"I can't tell people what to think or not to think. Their perceptions are their perceptions. We just feel we've taken a step forward. At the end of the day, we have to play 162 games. Once that happens then we'll be able to evaluate the offseason moves."~Tony Reagins, on the Angels' offseason
by George Kaplan on Aug 1, 2010 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions
All of these trade scenarios imply that Wood will become a 3B.
Not simply a replacement-level 3B, but a “genuine” or “first-string” 3B, as you say. Which Callaspo, Izturis, and Frandsen, as you say, are not.
Wood cannot even eat the garnish on the plates of Callaspo, Izturis and Frandsen right now — yet we want to find more ABs for Wood so he can replace the above?
This all seems founded on wishes and dreams. Wood is done with us. Yes, they have replaced them with Callaspo, Izturis and Frandsen — because in 400+ plate appearances, he simply could not hit a major league pitch.
Assuming you're right, then:
Why hasn’t the team DFA’s him already? What possible reason could there be for him to still be on the Angel roster unless the team was going to take another attempt to get him on track for 2011?
It isn’t as if the team would have to write off a huge salary or it is afraid that Wood would be picked up by the Rangers and blossom in the pennant drive.
The only conclusion I can come to is that the Angels currently feel that Wood can be fixed (not like a dog) and thus are keeping him around. Reagins hasn’t traded for or signed a “true” 3B, leaving the team to play with a out-of-position middle infielder, just as it had before. If I’m Wood, I’m feeling frustrated, but not fired.
"I can't tell people what to think or not to think. Their perceptions are their perceptions. We just feel we've taken a step forward. At the end of the day, we have to play 162 games. Once that happens then we'll be able to evaluate the offseason moves."~Tony Reagins, on the Angels' offseason
by George Kaplan on Aug 3, 2010 3:07 AM PDT up reply actions
He is hot right now. . let's take Juan "i got it, i got it, i got . . .(drops in for a hit) "Rivera
and sit his ass on the bench so he can watch someone who’s got something new to bring to the game.
He'll get benched every half inning
The defensive ones. Put him in the DH slot.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Cool to see
UZR mentioned.
WTY's ERA+ = 135 : - / -- Kevin Frandsen > Brandon Wood??????
by Figgi4life on Aug 1, 2010 10:53 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Bourjos to LF, Rivera to DH?
https://twitter.com/laangelsinsider/status/20117988471
WTY's ERA+ = 135 : - / -- Kevin Frandsen > Brandon Wood??????
by Figgi4life on Aug 1, 2010 10:51 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
^This^
"jut keep winning babt" - Moondoggy
by Rally Manatee on Aug 2, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Deadline don't matter
For players like this. You put him through waivers, and if someone claims him you say thanks and waive him bye-bye.
"That boy is our last hope" - Obi Wan Scioscia, as Francisco Rodriguez left for the Mets. "No, there is another" - Yoda Reagins.
Because I'm a pessimist
…So begins the yo-yo game Soth likes to play with prospects, poor guy, I hope he lasts.
I knew today was the day!
Good luck pete! Ill be excited to see how you do! Hit a homer and steal one to!
" With Haren bolstering the rotation, the Angels are set up beautifully for 2011"- Another East coast biased reporter
by Halos2011champs on Aug 1, 2010 11:06 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Steal one to what?
"jut keep winning babt" - Moondoggy
by Rally Manatee on Aug 2, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh!
Steal one t-o-o! ‘Too’ as in ‘as well.’ Double ‘o’ please.
"jut keep winning babt" - Moondoggy
by Rally Manatee on Aug 3, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Hopefully Wood is history (in ever sense of the word)...
…and he gets an equal chance to prove himself like Wood was given, especially since the season is in the tank (most likely).
Also, since I don’t think we’re going to be able to compete with THE big boy(s) when it comes Crawford, we need to find other alternatives.
Now is as a good of a time as any to know how much of the OF picture Pete will play next year…
Let’s see the goods.
I can't see Red Sox or the Yankees or the Phillies going after Crawford
Yankees are pretty much set with Gardner, Granderson is signed til ’13, and Swisher for another season.
Red Sox are probably resigning Ellsbury (unless his injury makes him ineffective) and they have Drew and Cameron for another season. Unless they feel they need more OF depth, I don’t see them signing Crawford, especially when Werth (also a free agent next season) would come cheaper.
Phillies are all set with Ibanez, Victorino and Brown.
"Just another Halo victory" - Rory Markas
I'd rather see Bourjos be really good.
Hopefully he can be our leadoff guy.
Any time you think you have the game conquered the game will turn around and punch you right in the nose.
Mike Schmidt
by Monkeyspanked on Aug 1, 2010 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Please, you know if the Yankees can get Crawford (and they will)...
…they will find somewhere to put Swisher or Gardner.
Swisher is having a career year in every single offensive category. Yes, every one. He might not finish with 35 HR so that will be the only one he doesn’t exceed.
Like with Figgy, is he the player you are seeing now or the one he has been his whole career (albeit not 10+ years). They’ll trade him high if they get Crawford, and would be brilliant in doing so.
And Gardner vs Crawford? I didn’t need to waste time typing this, did I?
It’s the Yankees. They Never™ Ever™ sit pat. If they can improve one player by a few % they will. Crawford is twice the player.
You are speaking of George Steinbrenner's Yankees
as thyough they still exist. Remains to be seen.
"That's the true harbinger of spring, not crocuses or swallows returning to Capistrano, but the sound of a bat on a ball." ~Bill Veeck
I don't know
At least one of his kids inherited the loudmouth tendencies just fine. Push comes to shove, who knows?
RIP Coach Wooden (1910-2010).
Really?
All three of those outfields are pretty flawed. I can see the Yanks signing him and flipping Granderson (Gardner to center), the Sux signing him and platooning Cameron and Drew, or I can see the Phillies signing him and benching (or DFAing) Ibanez. Don’t get me wrong, I hope we go all in for Crawford. He seems to be exactly what we need. I wouldn’t hold my breath, though.
Right the hell on!
Good luck Bourjos.
Any time you think you have the game conquered the game will turn around and punch you right in the nose.
Mike Schmidt
BENCH MATSUI
This guy Matsui only tries to hit a homerun with his hard swing trying to hit it out to right field. Thats why everyone pitches him outside and high he swings and falls out of the box 3/4 of the time and never tries to go opposite field
Good news for 2011, hopefully good news for 2010
We absolutely need Bourjos to be the starting CFer next year, with Hunter shifting to right, so that MLB’s worst OF defense can stop sabotaging the rotation. Getting his first 150 PAs out of the way will help him be an offensive non-suck next year.
I’m guessing/hoping he gets all the starts vs. lefties, with Matsui & Abreu (mostly Matsui) taking a seat. This way we can also put Matsui on waivers and maybe get something back for him along with a little payroll relief.
If the team falls out of contention (which I don’t think it will), Bourjos should get all the starts.
not yet
I say trade Abreu and put Bourjous in right and hopefully sign Crawford. I don’t think the Angels should move Torii to right yet. Don’t get me wrong Bourjous is the fastest guy in the organization but I don’t think Torii wants his job taken in CF just quite yet. Torii is still great in CF for his age but if he starts to struggle next year then they will probably move him to RF and Bourjous to CF
GREAT?
What is your definition of “great”?
Torii is not great in CF by any definition. GOOD maybe… no way “great” not anymore…
you mean watching balls bounce out of his glove...
and off his head isn’t the definition of great?
dissenter, dubious and devil's advocate to blog monitors everywhere.
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Aug 2, 2010 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions
spell his name right for god sakes...
Also, get off the Crawford bandwagon. It aint happening til the off-season, IF EVER.
dissenter, dubious and devil's advocate to blog monitors everywhere.
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Aug 2, 2010 12:15 AM PDT up reply actions
"Great for his age"
My Dad is great for his age in CF too, but he’s 51. Torii WAS great in CF, now he’s about average, maybe a bit below. He’s lost a step. I’d move him to left (I just don’t think he has the arm for right field) and he’d instantly become an above average left fielder.
Can his ego take it? I don’t know. I’d like to think it could. Our best outfield defense would be Torii in left, Bourjos in center, with either Rivera or Abreu in right.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Rivera in RF
better arm
"jut keep winning babt" - Moondoggy
by Rally Manatee on Aug 2, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't care what Torii wants, I care to fly flags
When the kid’s ready for regular play, he gets CF.
Bourjos getting at least 3 starts a week would make me happy
Play him against all lefties and once or twice a week against righties (sitting Matsui, Abreu or Rivera, or maybe spelling Hunter).
Defending maligned chants since 2009
He's great for our outfield
Abreu and Rivera always worries me when a deep fly ball is hit to them, Abreu look silly out there half the time and Torii makes big catches comes in and sometime even takes it away from Rivera and Abreu and he only has 1 Error this year
That's 100% more errors than last year.
"jut keep winning babt" - Moondoggy
by Rally Manatee on Aug 2, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
"Errors" are a small part of what makes a fielder good or bad
Range and arm strength and accuracy are important to consider. All of which Torii is below average
Torii Hunter has some Brain Movage
Please stop bringing up Torii's age
It’s irrelevant. Actually, that’s not true – it’s relevant because it’s the biggest reason why Hunter’s defense has declined this season. Whether or not his defense is good for someone of his age doesn’t matter, because his defense isn’t good, period.
His range would play much better in left field right now.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
HOLD THE EFF UP...
I am excited about this but lets realize that this guy is still, in many ways, a work in progress. His BB/K ratio leaves much to be desired. If he doesn’t excel right away, make sure to be a bit patient.
THAT BEING SAID, um, wow. Does this mean that Juancho is benched? I notice that Willits has been getting more and more starts? This is a pretty hasty move by the Angels that I like. I feel as if this team sometimes has waaaay too much patience with players.
I look forward to Peter’s speed, defense and watching him manufacture runs.
dissenter, dubious and devil's advocate to blog monitors everywhere.
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Aug 2, 2010 12:18 AM PDT reply actions
'm just expecting pretty impressive defense and speed, and possibly some stolen bases.
If he manages to hit well from Day 1, that’s great, but I won’t be calling for his head if he struggles.
People are excited
But mostly about the upgrade in defense. I’d like to think we’re all realists about his offense. The kid is not going to hit much right away. He might be decent against lefties, but I would expect some pretty overmatched at bats against any righty with a clue.
It’s fine, though. He’ll get good experience, and we won’t have to watch balls drop in front of Rivera/Abreu five times a game.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
I have the feeling someone is going to be put on waivers for a post-deadline deal
#34, never forget.
Matsui and who else?
Abreu fits into next year’s offensive plans at DH, unless either Conger or Trumbo are somehow ready to replace his bat (doubtful), or we buy an outfielder (I wouldn’t bet on it).
Napoli can DH next year if we put Abreu on waivers.
I don’t think we’ll let Abreu go though. Matsui maybe. I’m sure I’m not the only who feels like Matsui never even really joined this team.
"jut keep winning babt" - Moondoggy
by Rally Manatee on Aug 2, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I get that too
When he’s gone, we will quickly forget he ever played for the Angels. Like Dave Parker, Eddie Murray, and Cecil Fielder. One year mistake stints for aging DHs.
"That boy is our last hope" - Obi Wan Scioscia, as Francisco Rodriguez left for the Mets. "No, there is another" - Yoda Reagins.
And Bo Jackson
"jut keep winning babt" - Moondoggy
by Rally Manatee on Aug 3, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Intrigued? You bet I am!
Bourjos will get plenty of playing time. How?
- Matsui will only be DHing against righties.
- Abreu needs to rest his legs and will need some time at DH and the bench.
- Hunter’s bat must be in the lineup if we want to catch Texas. When he’s rested Bourjos is a better option than Willits.
- Bourjos is faster than Willits, and better defesnviely, which will mean more pinch running duties and late inning replacements.
We’ll see Bourjos in the lineup in some fashion or another just about every day.
We betrayed Vlad, the greatest Angel. Epic fail.
I am emboldened by the addition of this Young Turk.
We have defeated our divisional rivals in a head-to-head, one-on-one, nine-on-nine, 25-on-25, match-up.
We stand victorious on our ground.
I may be as fervent and fanatic as a Spartan in Thermopyle or a 1945 jap in a cave; but this is still do-able.
Every game propels us to our goal. Defeat is measured by mathamatics. Only by that standard are we eliminated.
To quote another poster here: WE ARE ANAHEIM!!!!
(sorry for the spelling)
Who goofed? I've got to know.
He's not a good enough hitter
AAA stats aside, he doesn’t have the minor league track record to support putting him at the top of the lineup. He’s not really an OBP guy. I’d hit him 9th.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
I agree
Bat him 9th and make him earn the right to hit higher in the order.
"That boy is our last hope" - Obi Wan Scioscia, as Francisco Rodriguez left for the Mets. "No, there is another" - Yoda Reagins.
Bourjos
Hit his 13th homer yesterday in AAA, so there might be hope for his bat too. Yeah, it’s an extreme hitters park, but this guy is more than another Willits.
I’ll have to get some pictures this week since he’ll be visiting me in Baltimore.
"That boy is our last hope" - Obi Wan Scioscia, as Francisco Rodriguez left for the Mets. "No, there is another" - Yoda Reagins.
just read that
Aybar is a nowhere man, Sitting in his Nowhere Land, Making all his nowhere plans for nobody.
by princeton11loveshalos on Aug 2, 2010 6:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Why does everybody seem to assume (hope) that he will be an everyday starter?
My experience is that guys on their first real call up usually stink…even the good ones. The best we can hope for is that we catch lightening in a bottle the first few weeks before the scouting reports find the inevitable holes in his swing. My guess is that he will be a spot starter/pinch runner/defensive replacement. Essentially replacing Reggie. If the FO/Soth thought that he could have been that much of a difference, don’t you think he would already be here? Our offense has been running through the poppy fields outside the Emerald City all season.
I hope I’m wrong, but I think you guys are being unrealistically optimistic here.
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.
I don't see that
There are very few comments that mention his offense as something to be excited about. I don’t think any but the most delusional are expecting more than a minimal offensive contribution from him.
This move was done for defensive purposes, and defense/speed doesn’t slump. So yes, he’ll be a downgrade offensively from whoever is sitting (although he may not even be that bad if he puts Matsui or Abreu on the bench against lefties). But he’ll definitely be a HUGE upgrade defensively, and I think that’s what people are anticipating. At least, that seems to be the general theme of the comments in this thread.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Not always
Napoli was a monster his first month. True that Kendrick, Aybar, Morales all struggled at first, and Wood struggled and never came out of it. But look how other teams have done introducing speedy CF:
Jacoby Ellsbury hit .353 in his first 33 games at age 23. Julio Borbon hit .312 last year, playing 46 games at age 23. They were a bit above their heads, and the league caught up to them.
But we’ve got a speedy 23 year old CF too, who has been red hot. He’s as likely to continue that hot streak as he is to struggle. Who knows what will happen, but I like that the Angels are willing to roll the dice.
"That boy is our last hope" - Obi Wan Scioscia, as Francisco Rodriguez left for the Mets. "No, there is another" - Yoda Reagins.
by RallyMonkey5 on Aug 2, 2010 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I expect Bourjos to play fantastic defense and steal a few bases
I don’t expect him to be an everyday starter or the savior for this team this year. It’s a great organizational move that makes us MUCH better in areas that we are weak and it’s all the more exciting because he’s one of our own that we’ve kept an eye on for quite some time.
I’m expecting him to give all three of our OF’s regular rest, struggle a bit at the plate and be pinch hit for late in games that he starts. I expect on the days that he’s not starting, Mike Scioscia only intends to play Torii, Bobby and Juan about 7 innings. These guys aren’t young and we need all three of their bats in the lineup. We’re one of them to get injured, you can forget about contending this year.
We betrayed Vlad, the greatest Angel. Epic fail.
This is pretty swesome
I was at the Bees vs. Beavers game yesterday (game 1 of the double header) and I watch bourjos knock a lead off single stretched into a double, home run, single and draw a walk. Plus he grabbed a fly ball near the warning track like it was a can of corn pop up, and he caught a ball in right right-center. He got there way before Trumbo did (who is crazy slow).
During the entire game I kept telling my fiancée that we’d see bourjos in an angels uniform soon enough. I guess I was right.
Also, I got video of a trumbo double and home run. I’ll post them if I can figure out how.
"I have something 95 percent of all those All-Stars only wish they had: a World Series ring. If I had to choose between that and being an All-Star, it would be no contest. I’d grab the gold ring and never look back." -Tim Salmon
by BruinHalo on Aug 2, 2010 7:14 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
I hope the kid can hit big league pitching
We could sure use him. I say platoon him a lot, give Juan and (occasionally) Tori a rest, give Bobby more time at DH. You don’t want to be sitting Bobby much now since he is a notorious late season bloomer. Look at his last 7 days numbers .294 BA, .400 OBP and 1.165 OPS
By the way I am really excited...
I have great seats for Thursdays game in Camden Yard. I live in Delaware so I only get to see the Angels live once or twice a year (I had to buy the wife two (?) Angels shirts (pretty sexy ones) and an Angels hat but it will be worth it.
The two shirts thing is female logic...
My wife: “I need two shirts so I can figure out which one looks better for the game”, my response “but um honey…uh…oh hell here’s the credit card”
My wife knows that she has unlimited funds for ANYTHING she wants to wear if they are pretty sexy.
Common ground in a marriage is everything.
"Wastin away again in Minor-Leaguer-Ville..."
That is a very good idea
I’m gonna run that past my fiancee. Anything you want as long as it is sexy.
Big Bats, We Don't Need No Stinkin Big Bats!
by angelskid2210 on Aug 2, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Haha
As Gorbachav said it can become “sexy” in more ways than one. Lol
Big Bats, We Don't Need No Stinkin Big Bats!
by angelskid2210 on Aug 2, 2010 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh for sure!
We can throw in some of that “sexy” money for that.
Big Bats, We Don't Need No Stinkin Big Bats!
by angelskid2210 on Aug 2, 2010 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Bourjos Debut
Righty on the mound tomorrow, MLB debut on Wed vs Matusz?
Probably makes the most sense, I doubt he will play vs the righty tomorrow.
Pretty excited, hopefully they can get him in there 4 times a week.
by The Blake Griffin Era on Aug 2, 2010 9:06 AM PDT reply actions
the season is not over
we will win this
"You dont need long hair to rip off your sleeves and be a badass" - J. Allen
RE: Bourjos callup...
I remain skeptically optimistic. I tend to follow along with “Moondoggy” in that Bourjos should be brought in slowly. If he’s comfy, then turn him loose. Don’t want the second coming of Brandon Wood OR Dallas MacPherson.
GO PETER, GO HALOS!
I love this team.
Bourjos will be a significant upgrade defensively
But I don’t expect him to hit more than .220 in his time with the Angels this year. He might go on to hit something like .250 next year, but he is not the answer to all our problems right now, unlike what many people seem to believe.
tony gywnn junior was a positive WAR purely because of his defense. If bourjos can match his offense
we have a solid option for the rest of the year.
If he does better than gywnn (which he will because of: superior power, more success at the minor league level, and not being in san diego’s stadium) then we have a solid piece. and one that will develop into hopefully our next leadoff hitter.
"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen
I like this move.
IT shows me they are not folding this season and they know they have a chance too. Bourjous will help regardless of what anybody says. He will be excellent defense taking a HUGE amount of pressure for Hunter. He will know he doesn’t have to cover 90% of the OF anymore. This move will do nothing but help us.
Big Bats, We Don't Need No Stinkin Big Bats!
It also shows that they want to know what they have in Bourjos so...
they can better gauge just how hard they should go after CCrawford.
Exactly.
very good point
Big Bats, We Don't Need No Stinkin Big Bats!
by angelskid2210 on Aug 2, 2010 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Exactly, even if this kid hits .200 in the lineup he will still be an offensive upgrade because of his speed
" With Haren bolstering the rotation, the Angels are set up beautifully for 2011"- Another East coast biased reporter
by Halos2011champs on Aug 2, 2010 12:09 PM PDT reply actions
BaseballAmerica Prospect (weekly) HotSheet
No. 4 (of 13) Peter Bourjos, CF Angels
Team: Triple-A Salt Lake (Pacific Coast)
Age: 23
Why He’s Here: .438/.500/.781 (14-for-32), 2 HR, 5 2B, 8 RBIs, 12 R, 3 BB, 6 SO, 0-for-1 SB
The Scoop: No prospect has had a better month of July than Bourjos, who has hit .445/.484/.714 in a 26-game stretch, collecting a hit in all but three games and 10 times snagging three or more in one contest. Bourjos’ slugging percentage for the month is nearly double that of his work from April through June. He has a staggering 53 hits for the month—with two games still to play—which if you multiply by five months in the season gives you 265 hits. It’s enough to make Ichiro’s head spin!
If Bourjos in August settles in somewhere between his incendiary July and his first-three-months numbers (.255/.313/.383), then it would be a fitting way to close a positive developmental year for the gifted defensive center fielder.
I say, if you are bringing him up, let him play. Hunter needs to suck it up and move to LF and let the young gun do the heavy running in the OF. Hunter’s hitting should only improve with the lightening of the workload in the OF.
I really don't see Torii changing positions mid-season.
Spring training? Maybe.
I would put Bourjos in RF instead of Abreu, slide Torii over to play left center and protect Rivera.
And platoon Abreu and Matsui.
"Wastin away again in Minor-Leaguer-Ville..."
One of the writeups I saw somewhere this morning alluded to the fact that Abrew may be going on the DL soon...
…no reason stated. So I presume that Juarning Track would move to RF…
is he faster than willits?
sorry im not too familiar with him
Yes, he is faster
And more skilled offensively and defensively. Like a right handed ellsbury.
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by angelskid2210 on Aug 2, 2010 1:00 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
The only way he's not better than Willits is plate discipline
Bourjos hasn’t shown the same ability to take a walk or work the count like Willits. But his ceiling is definitely far above Reggie’s.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Exactly.
Which is why he will fit in better with this team than Willits has. But, if he ever does learn to be more patient he will be a stellar lead-off hitter. If not, well 9 batter is alright.
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by angelskid2210 on Aug 2, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
It took Figgy 6+ years to develop the plate discipline for leadoff
And he’s a rare case – a lot of guys never develop that kind of batting eye. Not that it’s impossible, but I’m not expecting Bourjos to turn into a walk machine all of a sudden. If it happens, it will take awhile.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
To be fair
He didn’t lose a lot of his plate discipline. His walk rate is still very good. He is striking out a bit more. Mostly he’s lost a step of speed and he’s lost any ability to drive the ball with authority. His slugging percentage is awful. Throw in a bit of bad luck and you’ve got a terrible season.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see him bounce back a bit, but 2009 was probably his last good season.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
I don't think he's lost speed yet
Figgins has stolen 27 bases in 35 attempts, a better rate than last year’s 42/59. What he’s lost is the ability to hit the ball with authority.
"That boy is our last hope" - Obi Wan Scioscia, as Francisco Rodriguez left for the Mets. "No, there is another" - Yoda Reagins.
Yeah, his SBs are better this year
Maybe it was a one-year blip. His baserunning value was pretty consistent throughout his career, even when he had down years with the bat. Then they went way down last year, even though he had his best hitting season (OBP-wise). They’re down again this year, although not quite as much.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Exactly
I think he can sustain a .360 OBP purely on his ability to drive the ball and his speed, but anything above that wouldn’t come for another 5 years. His best season in terms of walks was last season with a BB/KK of .636, which is slightly above average this season.
So I think a 1:1.75 BB:K ratio is the best we’ll see out of him. If his bat, defense, and speed stays consistent, then he’ll emerge as an above average outfielder.
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hahah its probably because of the play Juan tried to take 2nd yesterday when he clearly had no chance at it haha
or the lollygagging when he grounds out to end a game
or letting anything outside of a 10 foot radius land for a double.
or for not getting a meaningful hit until the season was 2/3 of the way over.
f his face!
Somewhere, right now, Mickey Hatcher is ruining a swing.
by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Aug 2, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
did you see scioscia's comment about him?
“who would have expected Juan Rivera to have 30 something RBI going into August?”
by Balls and Strikes on Aug 2, 2010 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Few things terrorize an opposing defense like speed. Speed kills.
Just making contact with the ball freaks out the fielders. It’s a joy to watch.
"Wastin away again in Minor-Leaguer-Ville..."
Plus, it fits Sosh's gameplan
to a T. He lives and dies with speed. He has not had it all year and with Gorgeous comin up I think he is salivating.
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by angelskid2210 on Aug 2, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Gorgeous Bourjos!!!
I look forward to seeing what the kid’s got. I like the idea of him getting 2 or 3 starts a week, alternating DHing Rivera and Matsui on RHP vs. LHP. We need to keep Rivera in the lineup right now, but I’d rather have Bourjos’ defense than Matsui’s offense right now.
However, I’d also like to add that Willits has been better this year on offense. It seems like he has been forever written off by most HHers, but he’s definitely contributed this season, and shows way more passion than many of our regulars.
"jut keep winning babt" - Moondoggy
I love Willits
I don’t know why. Maybe he fills the diminutive scrappy white guy void in my life that never got filled when Eckstein left. He does have value as an on base guy and as a plus baserunner (although his stealing instincts aren’t that great). Plus I always liked Willits’ story.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Hey
Remember that time the Angels showed Glaus and Eckstein the door so that they could sign Orlando Cabrera and let Dallas McPherson play 3B? Wow, what a great moment in team history that was. [/sarcasm] Seriously, it’s amazing the Angels ever won anything given Bill Stoneman’s complete ignorance on how to build an offense. How many homeruns is Troy Glaus up to now?
I like Willits a lot too. He’s a a great player to have. Probably not good enough to start (unless you’ve got big production from other parts of the line-up), but great at getting on base and very good on defense. I like him as our no.4 OF.
Another luminous player!
To rifle the fires of this illustrious team of Los Angels. This team my favourite team, I study all matches and Peter Bourjos is my favourite player. I study all his at bat and Angel fire. In outfield he cover all the grass as he have done for luminous Salt Lake appearances with a glove like magical. Peter Bourjos is Number One.
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Reminder
Reggie Willits hit .327 / .448 / .426 in his last full season at AAA Salt Lake. I’ve tried, but I just can’t get excited about Bourjos. I’m as frustrated with the outfield defense as anyone, but I think this kid can do the organization more good by working on his plate discipline in AAA than shagging balls in the bigs. I can live awhile longer with Juan Rivera.
Willits
Willits put up good numbers in his first (and only) full season as a big leaguer.
Bourjos will have to learn how to face major league pitching at some point. No time like the present.
In the scouts eyes
there is no comparing the two players. Bourjos was our #2 rated prospect this year by BA – Willits never sniffed the top ten. Bourjos is bigger, faster, hits with more power. Better tools. I like Willits, but he was never the apple of any scouts eye.
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." - Woody Hayes
by johnnyangel101 on Aug 2, 2010 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Scouts seem to have a weakness for this type of player
Tall, athletic guys who make it out of the box in a hurry. There are just too many guys like that kicking around the league who just can’t hit. Remember how excited people were about Carlos Gomez? Sure he’s fast, but what anyone ever saw in his bat is beyond me.
Willits has absolutely no power
Bourjos has some pop and gap power in his bat.
"Just another Halo victory" - Rory Markas
let him play 4-5 times a week and get his lumps in and then we can evaluate if Crawford is worth it
bourjos can be a cheap crawford if we let him sneak in 150 ABs this season
RIP Nick Adenhart
A cheap poorman's Crawford
He doesn’t have nearly the base stealing instincts or the bat of Crawford. Defensively they are comparable, but Bourjos still has a lot of things to work on.
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His numbers and style compare very similarly to Austin Jackson.
Look how well he is doing for the Tigers. And he does strike out a lot. I bet Pete the Fleet can comp him well, while striking out even less.
I'm glad Bourjos got the call-up.
If for nothing else his D in the OF. I mean, even on his worse day, he couldn’t possibly be worse than what we’ve seen so far this season. Hope the kid does a great job.
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Wow, thanks Dean
There’s our answer. Which means we’re still subjected to Rivera’s lazy, nonchalant defense in LF. They should have moved him to right and Torii to LF. But what do I know? Interested to hear some of our more experienced uzr guys talk about this move.
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More Howie please...
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