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What's Best for the Angels Present/Future

I can't really say "there's a fix" for Angels, because I don't believe we're broken.  The Kansas City Royals are broken, the Angels, are just having a bad year.  We should consider ourselves fortunate that a bad year is .500.  Most of us suffered through my childhood (the 1990's) and those were bad years, .500 would have been a victory.  Instead of "fixing" the Angels, I'd want to improve the Angels chances of winning this year and in the future and I think there's a few ways to do that.

2010 Moves

- Promote Mark Trumbo - He really has developed into a dangerous hitter in AAA.  Most experts still see gigantic holes in his swing but thankfully AAA pitchers don't.  Slide him in at 1B.  

- Move Howie Kendrick back to a timeshare at 2B.  The fact is, Howie isn't improving.  He's hitting around .240 in the last month.  His OBP is down from last year, as is his BA.  His BB/K ratio is actually getting worse, which I wasn't sure was possible for him.  He simply doesn't deserve to play 1B while we watch Napoli take a seat.  If Trumbo doesn't show any sign of hope at 1B within a few weeks, then we can go right back to Howie. 

- Move Mike Napoli back to C.  Scioscia himself said offense is our biggest problem, so if we move Trumbo to 1B, this should also mean Napoli becomes our everyday catcher.  Mathis' numbers indicate he's not improving at the plate or behind it and Napoli at least brings HR power to a premium position.

- DFA Scot Shields.  Yeah it hurts my heart too, but Shields isn't the same pitcher anymore and clearly, Butcher can't "fix" him.  Jason Bulger is coming off the DL very soon and could definitely help us out in the 6th/7th innings where we struggle.

- Promote Brian Stokes, send Mike Kohn back down to AAA.  Hard for me to say, as I'm a Kohner.  While he has improved and hasn't given up a run in his last 3 appearances, Kohn can still work on some things in AAA, most specifically control.  MLB hitters don't swing at his high fastball, so he has to rely on his slider to put them away, and he needs to work on that as well.  Stokes however, has proven in the past he can be a very solid BP option, he deserves a shot at doing so with the Angels.

Offseason Moves - I already feel like our payroll is too high as it is.  So I'm only going to list homegrown methods of improving this team.  Obviously guys like Crawford or Dunn could help us immensely, but I don't know their price tag.  Also, hopefully, Kendry Morales learns how to celebrate, we need his bat for the foreseeable future.

- Trade Juan Rivera.  Why Juan?  Because Bobby's better than his numbers indicate and his contract makes him less tradeable.  Juan never does anything the first half of the season, and would be stuck in a LF/DH rotation with Abreu next year, giving us no defense in LF.  I would seek a minor league SP in AA/AAA in return, we're pretty shallow there, hopefully someone in the Sean O'Sullivan/Trevor Bell mold.

- Promote Chris Pettit.  He proved already that he can thrash AAA pitching.  He plays good defense in LF, and doesn't have awful patience and discipline at the plate unlike many of our prospects.  If I'm not mistaken, Pettit handles lefties much better than righties.  So play him in LF against LHP while Bobby is DH.  Against RHP, If Scioscia wants, throw Bobby back out in LF and use the DH spot for Howie or Napoli.

- Trade Jeff Mathis and Bobby Wilson.  Plenty of teams would love to give Wilson a shot at a timeshare at catcher.  I don't think the haul for him would be great, but we could potentially bring in more upper minor league pitching, an area which we are desperately short in after trading for Haren and Callaspo.  Mathis, I think would probably be of similar value, but I just can't stand there being a blackhole in the lineup, we're weak enough already.

- Demote Mark Trumbo.  This may have nothing to do with performance, but with Kendry coming back and so many other players who can play 1B, I'd rather have Trumbo down in AAA working on things that will improve him at the top level over riding the pine.

- Trade Brandon Wood.  Hopefully some team like the Royals bites and swaps him for Alex Gordon.  Or maybe we can get more AAA pitching.  Regardless, he has upside, Butcher can't help Wood, and the Angels simply don't have room for him.

- Promote Kevin Frandsen.  He knows how to hit and can play anywhere on the infield, that's valuable coming off the bench.

- Promote Hank Conger.  His defense in AAA has been outstanding.  He's a switch hitter and has great discipline at the plate.  

Here's the team this series of moves would assemble against RHP

LF Abreu
SS Aybar
RF Hunter
1B Morales
2B Izturis
DH Napoli
3B Callaspo
C Conger
CF Bourjos

DEPTH: Willits, Pettit, Kendrick, Frandsen
ROTATION: Weaver, Haren, Santana, Pineiro, Kazmir
BULLPEN: Rodney (9th), Jepsen (8th), Bulger (7th), Stokes, Thompson, Rodriguez, Bell.

AAA players who may be promoted: Kohn, Trumbo, Reckling, Amarista, Walden, Chatwood (2nd half).

Against LHP, move Kendrick to 2B, Izturis to 3B, Napoli to C, Pettit to LF, Abreu to DH, Callaspo and Conger to bench.  This lineup should be effective than our current lineup because of Morales' return and Conger over Mathis.  But also,  it looks like it would be about 20 million cheaper than our current payroll of 129 million.  

This would allow the Angels to make the necessary offseason moves to following year, as Pineiro, Kazmir, Rodney will all hit FA and names should be available like Prince Fielder, Adrian Gonzales, Jose Bautista, Heath Bell, Jon Broxton, Matt Capps, Mike Gonzalez.  Lots of opportunity to solidify that bullpen and improve this team.

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You should be our GM

you Know to much to be wasting in the heat of Chino

"You dont need long hair to rip off your sleeves and be a badass" - J. Allen

by DAD OF VLAD on Aug 10, 2010 2:16 PM PDT reply actions  

I like some of your ideas

But I don’t want to see Abreu in the field ever. He needs to be DH at this point against righties and lefties.

BOURJOS BOURJOS BOURJOS BOURJOS

by ryanfea on Aug 10, 2010 2:26 PM PDT reply actions  

I guess you could say

I’m on the “Sign Carl Crawford” bandwagon.

BOURJOS BOURJOS BOURJOS BOURJOS

by ryanfea on Aug 10, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am, if it's reasonable

I mean he’s 30 years old, I’m guessing he has another 3-4 years of 40+ SB in him. His BA looks good, as does his defense. Essentially he’s a younger version of what Chone Figgins was for us.

But if Crawford costs the Angels over 15 million a year and gets 5+ years then I think we may be better off without him. Like if 4/60 would get him I’d be all for it. 5/75 kind of hurts and I’d be on the fence. But it’s looking like he may end up costing much more than that.

We betrayed Vlad, the greatest Angel. Epic fail.

by Halowood on Aug 10, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I want Crawford.

Whether its 4/60 or 5/75 anything over that maybe not. But, this team needs to get more athletic and needs to revert back to the speed game. Obviously Hatcher and Sosh can’t do well without it. HAving Crawford and Gorgeous and Aybar and Callaspo and possibly Trout all in the lineup is one fast group. HAve K-Mo and Trumbo as the big thumpers if Trumbo pans out. Put Conger in there for a little Thump and we’d be set.

Big Bats, We Don't Need No Stinkin Big Bats!

by angelskid2210 on Aug 10, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like I said, I have no idea how much he will cost, that's why I didn't include him.

Depending on that cost, he may actually hinder our future. I don’t like the Red sox, Yankees, Phillies and Cubs, I don’t feel like buying championships is fair. I already feel guilty about having a 130 million dollar payroll. I honestly think we ca be better than we are right now with a payroll down at 115 or 110.

We betrayed Vlad, the greatest Angel. Epic fail.

by Halowood on Aug 10, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Commas my friend, Commas

" With Haren bolstering the rotation, the Angels are set up beautifully for 2011"- Another East coast biased reporter

by Halos2011champs on Aug 10, 2010 4:02 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Actually...

Crawford just turned 29 on Aug. 5.

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http://twitter.com/truegrich

by True Grich on Aug 10, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

did i read that right?

Kohn demoted to AAA?

What happened to your man?

"You dont need long hair to rip off your sleeves and be a badass" - J. Allen

by DAD OF VLAD on Aug 10, 2010 2:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Already explained mate, he's still my man

But he’s human. I think he’s a future set up man, but another 1/4 year to 1/2 year in AAA to work on his control and develop his slider wouldn’t hurt him at all. He’s good enough for the back end of the bullpen right now, but I’d like to see him called up for good when he’s ready, and he’s close to being ready.

We betrayed Vlad, the greatest Angel. Epic fail.

by Halowood on Aug 10, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why do you build him up

Only just to let you down?

"You gotta have nuts." / "Coming Around 3rd, especially if I'm ticked off, that's going to happen." - Torii Hunter

by Commander_Nate on Aug 10, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Buttercup?

our season is that song

"You dont need long hair to rip off your sleeves and be a badass" - J. Allen

by DAD OF VLAD on Aug 10, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

We have a killer bench!

But the front-line’s weak. I remember growing up (also in the 90’s) to Salmon, Edmonds, Erstad, Anderson, and Glaus. All young, all talented. Injuries and the trade for Kennedy kept these guys from really performing in the same line-up, but even so, we always had some strong pieces. What those teams lacked was pitching and depth. With Morales returning, all we need is one major starter to give the line-up some spark, because with Callaspo/Izturis/Fransden and Willits on the bench, we can withstand some injuries and rest players without major detriment. But we do need one more piece in that line-up (and a better bullpen).

He travels fastest who travels alone.

by Kingfish1 on Aug 10, 2010 3:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Here's my favorite line in your FanPost...
Most of us suffered through my childhood (the 1990’s) and those were bad years…

Just had to have some fun with ya HW!

by K3YEROUT on Aug 10, 2010 5:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Been a LOT of that going around lately...

Hard to see, but he is underperforming…as are numerous other Angels!

by K3YEROUT on Aug 10, 2010 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Remember when there were talks of him deserving a vote for the All-Star Game.

Let’s see how the rest of the season unfolds, before we have any of these posts. This year has been a down year, no doubt.

They want power. We want respect...

by SenorChuckles on Aug 10, 2010 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

RBI machine earlier in the season right?

I like Howie…I don’t understand the trading of 2 pitchers for Collapso, when what would we probably get for Howie in trade? A couple of similar rated pitchers? Do not get it…let Howie play 2b already. Stop playing him at 1b. Taking bigger bats out of the lineup, ie Naps.

by K3YEROUT on Aug 10, 2010 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Howie deserves to split 2B with Izzy right now

Niether has really run away with the position. I certainly like Howie’s potential but Angels players have a tendency to never live up to their potentials.

We betrayed Vlad, the greatest Angel. Epic fail.

by Halowood on Aug 10, 2010 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Izzy needs to split time at 3b with Collapso, not Howie...

…and don’t give me that crap about getting hurt at 3b…2b is more likely to get hurt by runners sliding in…

by K3YEROUT on Aug 10, 2010 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Callaspo gets the job done that Howie simply doesn't do....

They are pretty much the same player except Howie is all “potential” and Callaspo jut seems to get the job done.

We betrayed Vlad, the greatest Angel. Epic fail.

by Halowood on Aug 10, 2010 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Didn't you hear K3?

The new Halowood stats trump all other stats in the freakin’ universe!

It must be that time of day, the time to focus on sports.

by b0rd3rline on Aug 12, 2010 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I might be missing something who plays CF against lefties? You have Bourjous in LF

Good work. I enjoyed it.

Not sure Conger is going to be ready. Howie hits about the same against LHP and RHP not sure I want to make him a platoon guy so soon. Besides Maicer can’t play everyday

44fan claims that it is a fact Vlad will get hurt. Here is to your "borrowed time" Vlad. You were, are, and will be the man Vlad.

by hauldog on Aug 10, 2010 7:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Halowood, you catch a bit of crap here, but

I gotta say I really like your posts. This one especially. First suggestion post that’s made sense so far.

Good Job.

Any time you think you have the game conquered the game will turn around and punch you right in the nose.

Mike Schmidt

by Monkeyspanked on Aug 10, 2010 9:05 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't know about the others here at HH, but, for the record, I never suffered through your childhood.

However, I did suffer through my own.

The one thing that impressed me most about your post was this:

- Promote Kevin Frandsen. He knows how to hit and can play anywhere on the infield, that’s valuable coming off the bench.

I have not seen that yet on anyone else’s “wishlists”, and I think Frandsen has more proved himself with this team.

by agent_99 on Aug 10, 2010 10:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Frandsen has proven his worth, Wood is the only reason he's in AAA

I’m guessing the Angels want to try and get something for Wood this offseason. I specifically like Frandsen because

- As a pinch hitter, he would make contact. The more contact, the better chance at making something happen. Frandsen hardly ever K’s.

- As a defender, he can play all four infield positions, eliminating the need for multiple bench players to cover different spots.

- Chemistry. He’s seen as one of those guys who gets along with everyone and will give himself entirely to the best interest of the team.

We betrayed Vlad, the greatest Angel. Epic fail.

by Halowood on Aug 11, 2010 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Trumbo is a great prospect.

Its just where, 1B is full, maybe 3rd, but I dont see it. He’d be alright in LF if we dont have any better options. I really like Trumbo, and hope there is a place on the Angels 25 man roster in the future.

by Gokyle45 on Aug 10, 2010 11:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Not a big Fran-fan

But as a bench player, I’m perfectly fine with him.

I like your ideas as a way to improve the Angels without spending $15 mill a year on CC. We all want him, but we do have to think about the long-term stability of the franchise. I don’t want to go all-in for a year and spend a few after rebuilding. I really don’t. I want to be a fan of a competitive team year-in and year-out. I generally agree with the 4/60 or 5/75, anything beyond that being probably a bit much. I think OBP is overrated, but Crawford’s isn’t terribly great.

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart - Always an Angel

by Kernel on Aug 11, 2010 7:32 AM PDT reply actions  

You think OBP is overrated?

Thats thee most important stat for a leadoff man to have

" With Haren bolstering the rotation, the Angels are set up beautifully for 2011"- Another East coast biased reporter

by Halos2011champs on Aug 11, 2010 7:42 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think it's overrated when applied to every single kind of player.

A good baserunner with a great OBP is awesome. A creaky-kneed slow-jumper with a high OBP just means they’ll get doubled up half the time. It lacks context.

I would like to see Carl Crawford, a fast, athletic player who steals bases, with a higher OBP.

Anything that’s not an out works well, but a walk will only drive in a run if the bases are loaded.

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart - Always an Angel

by Kernel on Aug 11, 2010 8:06 AM PDT reply actions  

Care to back those claims up?

Wouldn’t said creaky-kneed slugger also score a lot of runs, especially if there’s a power hitter behind him? Getting on base is never a bad thing.

by dmhead on Aug 11, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Butcher has been working with Wood?

Maybe we should find him a hitting coach before giving up entirely…

We can’t trade Mathis, as no other team in the game would be willing to take him to arbitration. He needs to be cut loose. Why trade Wilson? He’s nothing more than a back up, obviously, but why not keep him around for depth while he’s only making the league minimum? I can see him backing up Naps exclusively next year, with Conger getting worked into the mix mid-season.

by dmhead on Aug 11, 2010 11:30 AM PDT reply actions  

I thought long and hard about Wilson's place in this org before the post

But I settled on the teams ultimate need for offense, and Conger is a more dynamic offensive weapon. I like Wilson and wouldn’t be hurt if we kept him around, but he just wouldn’t get enough playing time. It wouldn’t be fair to him, and it wouldn’t be fair to have him take the spot of a bench infielder or bullpen relief.

We betrayed Vlad, the greatest Angel. Epic fail.

by Halowood on Aug 11, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Life's not fair

And Wilson probably will never be a regular, so no harm in letting him ride the bench. Guys make a whole career out of being a back up catcher. As frail as a position as catcher is, it makes sense to have as much depth as possible.

by dmhead on Aug 11, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

All of this is academic anyway...

All that matters is that whatever happens between now and (that day), we find a way to make Weaver an Angel for quite some time to come.

Do whatever you have to do. Period. We can’t lose another Lackey.

If Weaver was a native American indian, his name would be Balls Like Moons.

Every team needs to have a set of balls.

Make it happen.

by RedFog on Aug 11, 2010 1:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Unfortunately, Torii threw ours all over the field in Detroit.

"You gotta have nuts." / "Coming Around 3rd, especially if I'm ticked off, that's going to happen." - Torii Hunter

by Commander_Nate on Aug 11, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

i like the part where you say

“butcher cant help wood”…
say what?
so thats why are bullpen sucks and our hitting sucks!!
mickey hatcher and mike butcher traded jobs!!!
OMG!!!!

by HalosBiggestFan on Aug 12, 2010 9:59 PM PDT reply actions  

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