Question for Angels fans
by Matt Swartz on Aug 13, 2010 7:07 PM PDT
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PrintMy name is Matt Swartz, and I’m an author at Baseball Prospectus. I’m doing some research on the infield shift (where three infielders play on the right side of second base for a left-handed hitter), and the data is a bit hard to come by. Since I know what a great resource the SBNation blogs are, being a former writer at one myself, I thought that some of you could give me some help.
I am curious who has gotten shifted against on your team MOST of the time, AND who your team regularly has shifted against in your division over the last 18 years. To jog your memory I am listing the lefties and switch-hitters that your team has had in the last 18 years that have hit at least 20 home runs.
Thank you for your help.
LHB
Garret Anderson
Mo Vaughn
Darin Erstad
Jim Edmonds
J.T. Snow
SHB
Kendry Morales
Chili Davis
Tony Philips
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i don't recall a single Angel being given the shift
Scioscia has played an aggressive shift on Jason Giambi and David Ortiz over the years but no opposing manager that I can recall has been that scared of us.
most managers where to lazy
to put the shift on for Anderson
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actually i think GA
was too lazy to let them know they were supposed to shift against him
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by AnaheimHalos61 on Aug 14, 2010 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I know for a fact that Texas sometimes did a 3 man on the LEFT side of the IF
against Vlad.
As mentioned by Rev I know they Angels have done the shift on Giambi and Ortiz, I’m also pretty sure they’ve done it against Carlos Pena and Jack Cust.
Cust and Pena - yes
Was it Showalter or Washington who did the stupid Time Warp Shift? (its just a jump to the left and then a step to the right) … Didn’t work…
by Rev Halofan on Aug 13, 2010 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Well that is because they left their hands on their hips and brought their knees in tight... Which is a horrible fielding position
How come when players go to Texas they revitalize their careers? could it be the roids?
by Sinatrasratpack on Aug 14, 2010 7:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Then they turned themselves around.
That’s what it’s all about!
"Wastin away again in Minor-Leaguer-Ville..."
And the pelvic thrust didn't help any either
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I remember the Vladdy shift when he was really pulling the ball Mo Vaughn got the shift sometimes
but that is about it.
How come when players go to Texas they revitalize their careers? could it be the roids?
by Sinatrasratpack on Aug 14, 2010 7:28 AM PDT up reply actions
iirc....
Jason Giambi also
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by AnaheimHalos61 on Aug 14, 2010 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Mo Vaughn definitely
Mo got the shift many times. In fact, in an interview, he said that he is not going to change his hitting approach despite the huge shift. I don’t believe that any of the other players on your list got the shift.
Vlad
Texas used to put a shift on just for Vlad on the left side of the field. I guess it got the point where they would try anything. Oh the memories…
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Or how about Willits...
All the outfielders come in about 50 feet. Just saying.
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Isn't the shift our baby to begin with?
I thought I read somewhere that Scioscia was the manager who popularized this tactic. I think a lot of teams still don’t practice it because it’s very risky, it’s playing the odds. I always thought it was a tactic the Angels specifically were famous for.
Soth-ball wasn't around in 1946...
not sure how accurate, but Wikipedia says it was used during the 1946 World Series.
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Aug 18, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
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