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Around SBN: The Worst Team Ever Projected?

Target Practice: Angels Regret First Visit To Metrodome-less Minneapolis

Final Score in Minneapolis: Twins 7, Angels 1

Star-divide

The Twins' novel offensive strategy, called "hit it to Juan Rivera," paid big dividends when everyone's least favorite lackadaisical left-fielder misplayed two fly balls in a row, including one he let drop more than twenty feet behind him. You really have to see the replay to believe it. The defensive lapses almost single-handedly turned a 4-1 deficit into a 7-1 blowout by just the fourth inning.

The Twins threw a journeyman starter against Dan Haren, so you just had to figure this Angels lineup would turn him into Whitey Ford. Haren was not sharp, hanging a 2-1 curveball which Jason Kubel launched with two guys on base in the third inning. But Haren would have had to pitch a shutout to lift the Angels' limp bats over the left-handed buzzsaw named Brian Duensing. Look him up if you've never heard of him, and my guess is that you haven't.

You know what? I haven't even looked at the Rangers score. At 61-62, the Angels are in a race with themselves just to finish with a winning record. Oh by the way, Maicer Izturis is hurting again.

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Badge of shame
Dan Haren, for hanging a curveball to Jason Kubel
72 votes
Juan Rivera, for that circus act in left field
265 votes
Everyone else, for being horrible
130 votes

467 votes | Poll has closed

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Can't blame Juan

Dudes lose track of balls hit up into the ceiling of the Metrodome all the time. It won’t ever happen again once the Twinks move to the new Target Field…

All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine.

by Quad Fin Rider on Aug 20, 2010 7:48 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I know
B-Wood given a start everyday makes sense because we’re outta the race, but it still hurts my heart seeing his name on the starting roster.

by phoenix15 on Aug 20, 2010 7:56 PM PDT reply actions  

rather he play

than mathis
maybe a wild pitch will hit his bat and fall in for a hit
the upsurge in batting average
might fool an unaware GM into thinking he has MLB worth

Who goofed? I've got to know.

by hittheg on Aug 21, 2010 3:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

baseball sucks when we lose

but when your drunk off of Sierra Nevada life is good

"You dont need long hair to rip off your sleeves and be a badass" - J. Allen

by DAD OF VLAD on Aug 20, 2010 7:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Now I want to vote twice

For Juancho and that godawful “who am I? What is my motivation?” BS in left.

Witty .sig goes here.

by scareduck on Aug 20, 2010 8:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Juan Rivera is what we in the teaching profession call, a "b-tard."

"If he raced his pregnant wife he'd finish third"
Tommy Lasorda on catcher Mike Scioscia

by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Aug 20, 2010 8:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Since we were listing former Angel bullpen guys who are on other teams ...(the other day)

who are better than what we have…I ventured upon Joel Peralta pitching pretty decently for the Wa Nationals, LINKIE

by K3YEROUT on Aug 20, 2010 8:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Eh, I don't really blame the Angels for giving up on him

It’s hard to believe he could have been a mainstay in the Angels pen for the last six seasons. Might as well have rolled the dice on J.C. Romero too. Sure he had some nice ERAs in Philadelphia, but did anyone see that coming?

by Suboptimal on Aug 20, 2010 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bobby Jenks

Didn’t we protect Josh Paul, our 3rd string catcher over Jenks? I know part of it was his drinking problem.

by aces666high on Aug 20, 2010 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I believe that's how it went down, yes

Certainly a mistake in retrospect, but that guy was such a mess in 2004 it’s really hard to blame the Angels for giving up. He walked almost 300 guys in his minor league career, so I never expected his control to be as solid as it has been in the majors.

by Suboptimal on Aug 20, 2010 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Very true

300?? Wow I knew he was a project but good god! Now the concern is we go the opposite way and stick too long with those guys w/cannons for arms. A lot of guys can throw 95 but if it goes in a straight line, doesn’t take long to figure it out.

by aces666high on Aug 20, 2010 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

You think we can dig up Chuck McElroy and put him in our pen?

"If he raced his pregnant wife he'd finish third"
Tommy Lasorda on catcher Mike Scioscia

by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Aug 20, 2010 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Our blowpen isn't going to improve by buying overated veterans at 4-5 mill a pop.

We tried that, it hasn’t worked. The Pads have an outstanding bullpen consisting mostly of young guys we’ve never heard of. Of course they have Bud Black. You think he makes much of a difference?
Suboptimal, do you feel the pitching coach is just as important as the batting coach? Thoughts?

"If he raced his pregnant wife he'd finish third"
Tommy Lasorda on catcher Mike Scioscia

by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Aug 20, 2010 9:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Pitchers are a lot more difficult to handle developmentally

But most of the problems reduce to inning management. I don’t really buy the argument that San Diego pitches well because of Bud Black, nor that Bud Black caused the Angels to pitch well when he was the hitting instructor. I think the Padres just have better pitching than the Angels.

by Suboptimal on Aug 20, 2010 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just realized this, I'm sure it's been brought up before

As a franchise, we have missed the playoffs every year following an LCS appearance :(

#34, never forget.

by jtkelly86 on Aug 20, 2010 9:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Yep.

Years following LCS appearance:

  • 1980
  • 1983
  • 1987
  • 2003
  • 2006
  • 2010 (To be determined)

Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch

by red floyd on Aug 21, 2010 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have an announcement

I am no longer in love or hereby married to, my other husband, Juancho The Bat Sniffer Rivera. Its over.

by TSamn15 on Aug 20, 2010 9:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Minnesota has fielded such a better team, 1-9 than the angels it's ridiculous.

Don’t even bother hoping for a win. I’m sure its Mickey Hatcher’s fault that the offense didn’t pull through today, though.

Tony reagins is pretty awesome at his job though.

What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.

by clover_black on Aug 20, 2010 10:00 PM PDT reply actions  

sounds like Juancho's eyes are still jacked up

gotta be a little scary to just wake up one day and not be able to see as well as you could before. Guess that is called getting old, but dude ain’t that old….

by LosAngel on Aug 20, 2010 10:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Its called stress related.

Because he sucks at baseball and his meal ticket is gonna run out in 2011. He had a good run though, no need to feel sorry for him. I’m sure somebody in the AL could use a DH that dribbles the ball to 3B.

What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.

by clover_black on Aug 20, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

2 high school players to guard the lines...

let Bourjos get the rest. Bonus—the high school guys might not hit any worse either.

by hbhalofan on Aug 21, 2010 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

how bad is it

that I stopped watching in the 7th inning, then a little bit ago I thought to myself “I wonder if they came back and won the game..that would be super cool if they did.”? So I came on here to see if I would be pleasantly shocked only to confirm that this team is completely, 100% uncapable of coming from behind. And that tells me that even if this team were to pull off a miracle and somehow overtake the Rangers (more a Rangers collapse than an Angels comeback), they would surely be done after 3 games (4 if they got lucky) in October.

I’m to the point where I’m ready for them to be mathematically eliminated so I can quit the emotional rollercoaster. every win is just smoke and mirrors, nothing more, nothing less. The sooner we all realize this, the sooner we can focus on the future and not let bullshit defensive miscues, such as Rivera letting a ball fall 30 feet behind him, have a negative effect on our mood.

When the highpoint of a 3 hour baseball game is seeing a rookie who is batting .133 hit a double, something is obviously wrong.

time for another beer…

protectedpickprotectedpickprotectedpickprotectedpickprotectedpickprotectedpick

by 2pintsofbooze on Aug 20, 2010 11:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Talking sense

Finally someone else who feels like taking off the rose colored glasses. Like I said in a previous post this team lacks in just about everything. Escpecially heart. This is not the team that could be down 7-1 and u knew they could chip away at it and be in it by the 8th. These are the guys u have to laugh to keep from crying. Don’t pitchers and catchers report soon?

by aces666high on Aug 21, 2010 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

How in the hell does Jim Thome get a TRIPLE?

Sick. Also, I cannot believe Rivera’s misplay. Get that guy some glasses.

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Aug 21, 2010 12:07 AM PDT reply actions  

Four words. Juan Rivera In Left

Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch

by red floyd on Aug 21, 2010 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe next year

We can upgrade in left field by signing Manny Ramirez.

by Doctor Wu on Aug 21, 2010 12:27 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Missed the game

On purpose when I saw us down by 3 runs (all hope wa gone)..
I did notice kohn had a perfect inning with a K, did he look better or flukish?

by HalosBiggestFan on Aug 21, 2010 2:13 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

To be fair

Brian Duensing is in his second season in the majors, is 26 and was drafted by the Twins. Not sure what your definition of a journeyman is, but it’s not Duensing.

by Sethy on Aug 21, 2010 6:16 AM PDT reply actions  

Journeyman

n. An experienced and competent but undistinguished worker.

by Suboptimal on Aug 21, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ya, I don't think that works for Duensing

Second season in the majors – hardly experienced.

by Sethy on Aug 21, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Juan Rivera

He stinks in the outfield but I guess they think his bat is worth keeping in but his misplayed balls are costing the team victorys. How many years are we going to put up with these players that they think are going to come out of there slump but they don’t ! Time to get rid of Shields and Rivera and Mathis . We are in trouble for years to come unless we get someone in there that can see these things. Mike S can only do so much with what he has to work with.

by mojo2045 on Aug 21, 2010 6:31 AM PDT reply actions  

Didn't see the game last night

We had friends over for dinner. During that time, my son said “I wonder how the Angels are doing”, and I replied “Don’t you remember? They won yesterday and played well. That means today they are going to turn a 180 and absolutely STINK.” That has been the pattern I’ve noticed.

And sure enough, I wake up this morning and see the train wreck from last night. It’s sad to be right and see how predictable their sucking has become.

by RedHatHalo on Aug 21, 2010 8:26 AM PDT reply actions  

I went to this game and Saturdays game

Two things
1. The stadium is gorgeous
2. Juan Rivera is a joke in left field.

You are what you type.

by rjcicc on Aug 23, 2010 1:05 PM PDT reply actions  

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