Angels finally place players on Waivers
Ken_Rosenthal #Angels finally place trade candidates on waivers: Fuentes, J. Rivera, Napoli, others. Abreu included, but he is signed through '11. #MLB I am happy to see this finally happen. Hopefully they can get some salary relief to apply to next years budget.
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Interesting, I bet all get claimed.
I’m seeing a Napoli, Rivera and possibly Fuentes trade.
"You play for Cleveland? I didn't know they still had a team." - Claire Holloway
"Yup, we've got uniforms and everything, it's really great!" - Jake Taylor
I'd be sad to see Napoli go.
W6G -- Unless there's a good trade on the table.
by RexTookMyStash on Aug 24, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
and his .212 lifetime average with RISP...
nah.
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by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Aug 25, 2010 6:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Fuentes could be useful for a contender
Would you just release any of these guys if claimed?
44fan claims that it is a fact Vlad will get hurt. Here is to your "borrowed time" Vlad. You were, are, and will be the man Vlad.
No, I'd want something in return for all of them.....
If we offer Fuentes arb and he declines and elects FA, we will get draft picks. We should let him go for anything less than a AA/AAA starter like Palmer. Bell or O’Sullivan, guys like that.
Napoli is a catcher who would probably hit 30 HR’s if he played 150 games, making him one of the top 5 offensive catchers in baseball, and he only costs 3 million, I’d want a good A ball pitcher in return.
Rivera….yeah ’d just let him go, save 5 million next year, try to land Crawford or Dunn.
"You play for Cleveland? I didn't know they still had a team." - Claire Holloway
"Yup, we've got uniforms and everything, it's really great!" - Jake Taylor
Me too, and if he didn't we'd have a solid closer again
"You play for Cleveland? I didn't know they still had a team." - Claire Holloway
"Yup, we've got uniforms and everything, it's really great!" - Jake Taylor
This is a joke right?
Fuentes has some value and the Angels should be able to get something decent for him. However, if they cannot then let the guy walk. The thought of paying him $11m or so to be our closer makes me sick.
Rivera should also fetch something decent. He signed reasonably for 2011. Now his 2010 season has been awful, but prior to this he has been a solid player who signed an under-market contract.
Napoli should also fetch something really nice. An “A” type prospect or a couple B’s.
The big one is Abreu. If we can dump Abreu I would be thrilled. Even if we have to pick up $3m or in salary.
Would have liked to have seen Rodney, Hunter, and Kendrick also placed on waivers. Don’t think we can move Hunter but if someone wanted his salary I wouldn’t think twice about moving him. Kendrick, given his salary and team control, could get you something decent. Rodney I would let go for salary relief, no prospects needed.
Fuentes can't possibly be a type A free agent. I dont think he is getting an arb offer either
I would give Fuentes, Abreu, Rivera and Matsui away for free if need be.
44fan claims that it is a fact Vlad will get hurt. Here is to your "borrowed time" Vlad. You were, are, and will be the man Vlad.
Matsui wouldn't save us much money at all, no point in giving him away
Not when he’s an icon abroad. Abreu can still swing the bat a little, I’d keep him too. Rivera I would give away for free. Fuentes I wouldn’t give away for free but cheap, and Napoli would definitely cost a good prospect.
"You play for Cleveland? I didn't know they still had a team." - Claire Holloway
"Yup, we've got uniforms and everything, it's really great!" - Jake Taylor
Abreu's contract next year is not very favorable
It also amounts to around 50-60% of what we would pay Crawford. Good way to clear salary. Although I doubt anyone claims him. Too dangerous.
Fuentes in my opinion, is not going to get an ARB offer from us. he is not worth the money and I doubt he turns it down.
44fan claims that it is a fact Vlad will get hurt. Here is to your "borrowed time" Vlad. You were, are, and will be the man Vlad.
Type B's get you a comp pick though, and he
"You gotta have nuts." / "Coming Around 3rd, especially if I'm ticked off, that's going to happen." - Torii Hunter
by Commander_Nate on Aug 24, 2010 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
*he could be Type B by year's end
"You gotta have nuts." / "Coming Around 3rd, especially if I'm ticked off, that's going to happen." - Torii Hunter
by Commander_Nate on Aug 24, 2010 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
No way, AAA at least if we're doing one-for-one
There’s far too much uncertainty with A-ballers. If we give Napoli up for that level of talent, I want at least two A prospects in return.
"You gotta have nuts." / "Coming Around 3rd, especially if I'm ticked off, that's going to happen." - Torii Hunter
by Commander_Nate on Aug 24, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
did Rivera play 1st last night
to show off his versatility?
by WhatShouldIThrowToday? on Aug 24, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not really privy to this whole waiver thing
How significant is this? Or is it just standard procedure that probably won’t lead to anyone moving?
W6G -- Unless there's a good trade on the table.
In all honesty they probably put the whole team on waivers and most will be pulled back
Although I could see Fuentes and MAYBE Matsui getting moved.
44fan claims that it is a fact Vlad will get hurt. Here is to your "borrowed time" Vlad. You were, are, and will be the man Vlad.
They are available for another team to "claim"
the claimants rank in order from worst to best … once a team “claims” your player, then you can open a dialog for a trade. If you do not like the trade offer, you can bring that player back and deny the trade. At that point, your player in no longer available to be claimed by another team.
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Aug 24, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks for that.
Was iffy on the process as well.
by ReggieBullits on Aug 24, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
So it's almost like casting out a lure to see what hits?
W6G -- Unless there's a good trade on the table.
by RexTookMyStash on Aug 24, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
We got the worst pitcher on our staff on waivers last year
Its usually not a huge deal but some deals can still be made
" With Haren bolstering the rotation, the Angels are set up beautifully for 2011"- Another East coast biased reporter
by Halos2011champs on Aug 24, 2010 8:20 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Somewhere, 44FAN is crying.
poor fella. He was right on that Napoli is the better catcher. Maybe he can talk to Scioscia about it.
I love this team.
If the guy clears waivers (forget how long it takes), then he can be traded.
The July 31 deadline is only for trades where players don’t have to clear waivers.
Example: U-Haul was placed on waivers by ATL. We didn’t pick him up on waivers… instead he cleared, and then we traded Kotch for U-Haul.
Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch
We got U-Haul at the 7/31 deadline.
We got Kaz at the 8/31 waiver deadline.
44fan claims that it is a fact Vlad will get hurt. Here is to your "borrowed time" Vlad. You were, are, and will be the man Vlad.
OK, replace U-Haul/Kotch with Kaz/S-Rod.
Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch
I bet Napoli and Fuentes get claimed
I also think that we won’t get what we want for Napoli so we will pull him back. I do believe Fuentes will be dealt for a few lower prospects in return to paying off the rest of this years salary.
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Oh cool did not know you could do that
44fan claims that it is a fact Vlad will get hurt. Here is to your "borrowed time" Vlad. You were, are, and will be the man Vlad.
yeah, click on the time the tweet was made and it'll link directly to it
so where it says “25 minutes ago” for example … click that.
It was a tweet
44fan claims that it is a fact Vlad will get hurt. Here is to your "borrowed time" Vlad. You were, are, and will be the man Vlad.
Matsui, Rivera, and Fuentes I reckon are the likeliest to go
Rivera seems permanently in Sosh’s doghouse, and now that Bourjos has taken over CF, there’s no real use in having 3 bad-fielding LFers for a maximum 2 slots.
hopefully, some other teams see that Rivera usually heats up in the 2nd half...
and don’t look at his fielding.
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by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Aug 25, 2010 6:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Is Mathis Mike Scioscia's love child?
I do not understand this unfailing devotion to a guy totally incapable of hitting major league pitching.
Wait a sec
Napoli’s is one of our best offensive players, and is playing acceptable defense at C, while Mathis is playing similar defense and hitting below the Mendoza line. Yet Naps is placed on waivers?
Mike Scioscia man, he loves his defense and thinks Mathis is a good defensive catcher
Tools wise, I tend to agree, he’s athletic, has a strong arm and is smart. Performance is a different matter though.
"You play for Cleveland? I didn't know they still had a team." - Claire Holloway
"Yup, we've got uniforms and everything, it's really great!" - Jake Taylor
DOOOD....
Look at Napoli’s average with runners in scoring position…Its under .200 this year. Solo shots are fun to watch but don’t do much for the scoreboard most of the time.
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by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Aug 25, 2010 6:19 AM PDT up reply actions
So what's your point?
Jeff Mathis hits .202 with RISP. Bobby Wilson hits .222 in those situations. Work whatever angle you want, Naps is still our best offensive catcher and it’s not even close. Unless Reagins can pull Brian McCann out of his ass you might as well try and appreciate Napoli for what he is.
by dmhead on Aug 25, 2010 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ineptness
I keep seeing if only we still had Kendry things might be different. Well if you had 3or4 of him it might be better.Shows how bad this lineup actually is. Bottom 9th 1 run down relief pitcher in throws 9 pitches and strikes out the side.Lot of talent on the Angels part.I also believe there are to many switch hitters onthe team they seem to be pretty good as long as they can bat lefty put them up against any lefty pitcher and they go softly into that good nite.People keep complaining about the pitching staff. lot of pressure on them to throw shutouts for a win if the Angels manage to score a run or 2.Also Hatcher has to go…!
Kendry alone would net 4-5 more wins
Whatever stats you wanna go with, that’s pretty much a given. He would also have the effect of improving the guys immediately before and after him – so Torii and Matsui/Napoli/Rivera – which would increase their performance moderately, netting maybe 1-3 more wins. I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that with Kendry, we could concievably be only 4-5 back right now.
Still, you are right. Even with Morales, this crappy bullpen’s pitching would have us in 2nd place.
"You gotta have nuts." / "Coming Around 3rd, especially if I'm ticked off, that's going to happen." - Torii Hunter
by Commander_Nate on Aug 25, 2010 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions
I was thinking the same thing.
Napoli in Boston would be put on trial for murder!
Because he’d be killing those balls!
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The hope is
The Angels get anything in return for Matsui, find someone to take on Rivera and Abreu’s contracts, get a solid minor leaguer for Fuentes and someone offers them something that can’t refuse for Napoli. My guess is Napoli is just a “let’s see what happens” drop into waivers. He has heavy value and could be an asset for the team. Everyone else, I would be glad to see go for something.
My guess is Napoli is just a "let’s see what happens" drop into waivers
Exactly… a gauge that can lead to off-season trade discussions. That’s the beauty of waivers is that while you may not want to trade the guy, you may get a nice offer sometime down the road by simply letting other teams know “hey, we might be interested in dealing this guy … let’s talk.”
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Aug 25, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
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