Carl Crawford in 2011? Or ...
by RallyMonkey5 on Aug 9, 2010 7:09 PM PDT
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"I could see Harper getting one day in the MLB this season -- didn't the Nats do that with Ryan Zimmerman? But to stay, probably Trout. The Angels have dropped hints that they might be ready to go to war with Trout next year, crazy as it seems."
Hard to even fathom this, as Trout will be all of 19 and has yet to even play at AA. But then again, Ken Griffey Jr. played his first season at age 19. I love Mike Trout, but could he be that good a prospect? It will be interesting to see what the Angels decide to do if Crawford signs elsewhere. I could see him being given a fair shot in spring training with Bobby Abreu and Juan Rivera to earn the chance to play. If Trout somehow does get to start in the big leagues as a teenager, we might as well make the Cooperstown reservations for 2035.
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Is Granderson not available?
Captain, there are doubt's...
by Match Day 5 on Aug 9, 2010 7:31 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Why?
Why would we want him? Because he is fast? Spend the money and get an equal field and a better hitter with more power. CG isn’t going to help you win a World Series.
This is an ongoing joke here at HH...
…based upon far too many fanposts last off-season when Granderson was a FA.
Available for trade
44fan claims that it is a fact Vlad will get hurt. Here is to your "borrowed time" Vlad. You were, are, and will be the man Vlad.
That would be awesome to have our very own A-Rod or Griffey Jr.
I don’t care what anyone says. If he can do it then hell yeah.
Besides we don’t need Crawford. Isn’t Bourjos going to lead off?
The future looks bright. 2010 is just a bump in the road.
Any time you think you have the game conquered the game will turn around and punch you right in the nose.
Mike Schmidt
Don't need him?
What is a better outfield?
Hunter, Crawford, Abreau/Rivera/Bourjos
or
Hunter, Bourjos, Abreau, Rivera
let him play in spring training and see what happens
wouldn’t want to ruin the young man by being rushed, the lower minor leagues and MLB are galaxies apart
Angels in 2010!
Pretty Sure
most viable FAs will be signed by then. We have to decide before that.
by lightupthehalo29 on Aug 9, 2010 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, take our time
like we did with Wood.
"jut keep winning babt" - Moondoggy
by Rally Manatee on Aug 10, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
We should wait one more year for Trout
2012 for him. Let’s see if he can sustain his success through the minors and then give him his shot. The earlier he comes up the earlier we lose control of him.
by lightupthehalo29 on Aug 9, 2010 9:05 PM PDT reply actions
He won't get a shot in 2012
It’s next yr or never.
Didn’t u see that movie about 2012?? Hello!
Wake up, foo
by HalosBiggestFan on Aug 9, 2010 11:32 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
thats in like December of 2012
we will already have won our 3rd World Series by then
R.I.P. Nick Adenhart #34
Isn't that when the world is supposed to end?
Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch
I thought the world was going to end in 2002.
God: The Angels won the World Series? Well, Son, get your ass down there.
"jut keep winning babt" - Moondoggy
by Rally Manatee on Aug 10, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
And then again in 2004.
The Bosux won.
Of course, the real sign of the Apocalypse will be when the Cubs win the Series.
Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch
And the Rangers this year?
"jut keep winning babt" - Moondoggy
by Rally Manatee on Aug 10, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
This org. prefers to take their time with prospects
outside of Howie and Ervin really. Before Trout gets a shot at being an everyday player, I think they’d keep him down in AA and let Pettit try to run with it. Plus, Trout hasn’t dominated Rancho like he did Cedar Rapids. Perhaps, he’s right where he needs to be at 19, in advanced A ball.
We betrayed Vlad, the greatest Angel. Epic fail.
And Weaver
"jut keep winning babt" - Moondoggy
by Rally Manatee on Aug 10, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
eh
Weave was ready to go the day they drafted him.
Weaver was 23 when he started for the Angels
There is that small matter of having attended CSLB, while Trout signed right out of high school. That four-year delta makes a huge difference in the readiness of many players.
Also, Weaver wasn’t emotionally ready. He has had to do a lot of growing up while in uniform; I think a lot of his recent maturity has had to do with the loss of Adenhart.
"I can't tell people what to think or not to think. Their perceptions are their perceptions. We just feel we've taken a step forward. At the end of the day, we have to play 162 games. Once that happens then we'll be able to evaluate the offseason moves."~Tony Reagins, on the Angels' offseason
by George Kaplan on Aug 10, 2010 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, that was my point
Weaver didn’t “shoot through the system”. He was more or less a finished product when the drafted him who had to do some time at the lower levels to adjust to life as a pro. He was definitely ready for the show the following season and proved it in spring training, and again when he finally got the call. But we all know how that season ended up.
Gotcha
"I can't tell people what to think or not to think. Their perceptions are their perceptions. We just feel we've taken a step forward. At the end of the day, we have to play 162 games. Once that happens then we'll be able to evaluate the offseason moves."~Tony Reagins, on the Angels' offseason
by George Kaplan on Aug 11, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
The Angels would be stupid to rush him like that
Most have his ETA at opening day 2012, but I would let him do a full year at AA and AAA before even considering bringing him up.
I took your stash.
If Trout is on the MLB Roster Opening Day 2011
I will shit a brick. Earliest I can see him here is 2012, give him another year to season a bit, get leadership such.
Trout will split the year between AA and AAA next year
He would have to put up even better numbers than this season’s low A stats to be called up that quick.
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Terrible Idea
Let him take his lumps and work on his game.
If the miracle happens and we sign Crawford, then he can take Hunter’s spot 2 yrs from now. Best defensive OF in Baseball 3 center fielders, Trout, Bourjos, and Crawford.
by The Blake Griffin Era on Aug 9, 2010 10:40 PM PDT reply actions
Don't matter how good the outfielders are
when all the fly balls go over the fence.
Best prospect in baseball
It’s been mentioned elsewhere – but it was confirmed again on this chat. Nice to see a consensus growing around how special Trout could be.
That said, no way he comes up next year. The only crazy scenario I could think of is a late August call-up for the playoffs. Rosters get expanded, defensive subs are critical. Trout could make an awesome pinch runner/defensive sub in October. His bat wouldn’t need to be ready. Scouting reports seem to indicate that his glove and speed are almost at ML levels today.
2012 to 2013 makes the most sense. Natural replacement for Hunter. It is nice to think about an outfield of Crawford, Bourjos, and Trout. Would any fly balls not be caught? Jered Weaver would sport an ERA under 2 with that outfield defense.
Speaking of Trout..
I got his signature on one of my hats before tonight’s (8/9) game.
And here is a picture of me with Trout. Kid sure doesn’t look like he’s 19.. geez..
It must be that time of day, the time to focus on sports.
Grr..
Trout signature on hat..
Me and Trout
It must be that time of day, the time to focus on sports.
How much r the rancho game tickets? Preorder or walk-up purchase?
by HalosBiggestFan on Aug 10, 2010 12:35 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Definite walk-ups
The “expensive” seats are only like $12, but I would suggest the $10 ones that are down the home teams line, so you can get players to talk and sign stuff before the game.
That being said, this autograph session was held in front of the Big A before the Angels game last night. It was Quakes night at the ballpark.
It must be that time of day, the time to focus on sports.
What's Nice
about the $12 premium seats is you can sit right behind home plate, amongst the scouts. I did that once when Jose Arredondo was with the Quakes. It was really cool sitting THAT close to a guy throwing 95 mph. You almost get a sense of what it’s like to stand in the batters’ box against that.
Why not?
IF the kid proves he can handle it then sure. Heyward did it. Give him some time at AA to start the year and then see what he can do. I don’t have a problem with it/
Big Bats, We Don't Need No Stinkin Big Bats!
play the young kid
we have a good record with Fish named outfielders
"You dont need long hair to rip off your sleeves and be a badass" - J. Allen
Maybe a September call up in 2011.
But we should give him a year. He needs to at least see AA pitching. He isn’t exactly destroying high-A pitching at the moment. (He’s doing just fine at that level.)
What about Jayson Werth
Why is it that he’s never a hot topic for a free agent signing? Just asking…
BTW, I went to see Trout Saturday night in RC. Posted about it on my blog as well.
http://truegrich.blogspot.com
http://twitter.com/truegrich
Well for one
Crawford is a little younger than Werth which makes him more valuable along with superb defense and speed. It is not so much that Werth is a bad choice but that Crawford is a much better choice.
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Werth is overrated
for the amount of money he is going to want, not worth it at all. not to mention he is having a decent (not great) season playing in a hitters park, and in the NL. I doubt he’d be all that much better playing in Angel stadium. plus his steals are way down this season from last season.
Crawford suits Angels baseball perfectly (previous season’s Angels baseball, not this season’s. this season’s isn’t really Angels baseball as we all know it).
if the Halos don’t get Crawford then I will be very dissapointed if they get Werth, unless its for only a couple years and for not much money, which isn’t going to happen. some team out there will give him too many years and too much money, I just hope its not the Angels.
by 2pintsofbooze on Aug 10, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Agreed, I see worth as another Aaron Rowand.....
Good numbers in the weak NL in a hitter’s haven. He comes out West and is expected to do the same thing and he flounders and it becomes apparent he’s only an average player at best making way above average money. Thanks but no thanks on Jayson Werth.
We betrayed Vlad, the greatest Angel. Epic fail.
We don't want flounders
we want Trout!
"jut keep winning babt" - Moondoggy
by Rally Manatee on Aug 10, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
So if it's not Flounder, what's Trout's Delta Tau Chi name?
Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch
Jayson Werth's career road splits
are fairly similar to his home splits. Obviously Citizens Bank Ballpark doesn’t hurt his stats but he isn’t just a product of that hitters haven either.
I’ve referenced this before and posted his stats but I’m too lazy now so you can look it up at baseball reference if you want.
"F it, let's pitch." - Ervin Santana
by Chzburger Jones on Aug 11, 2010 1:10 AM PDT up reply actions
His career splits are pretty equal
but this season there is a pretty big gap between his home and road numbers
joining Ka'aihue?
In last night’s broadcast, that whole “what does Ka’aihue mean?” thing was hilarious. In Peruvian, it means, “One who helps build pyramids.” In Moroccan, it means “one who goes for a walk, finds mirage.” I was laughing for days.
"jut keep winning babt" - Moondoggy
by Rally Manatee on Aug 10, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
It wasn't bad.
But my favorite was “Beard Talk” with your hosts Victor and Gubi.
Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch
by red floyd on Aug 10, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes!
The chin strap beard comparison!
But Rojas was in rare form last night. I also liked how he so nonchalantly slipped “fair pole” into his play by play of Betimit’s HR.
"jut keep winning babt" - Moondoggy
by Rally Manatee on Aug 10, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah. Victor's kind of grown on me.
He’s got a very dry wit.
Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch
My favorite Victor line is still the dis on the umps...
“Right down the middle of the plate for a ball”
Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch
That was HILARIOUS
I had to rewind/replay the bit that followed the moroccan line a few times. You could hear Gubi start to lose it, then they muted him, I think they were dying – - it was dead air for a good little time period – - and gubi didn’t recover to actually speak for a batter or two.
Loved that.
Self-realization. I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said, "I drank what?"
The Geek.
by The OC Sports Geek on Aug 10, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
And here I was hoping,
That Ka’ aihue meant “Shut the hell up Gubi”. Just wishful thinking.
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