Angel Bats Abandon Jered Weaver Yet Again
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From the Angels site on Jeff Mathis' frustrating season
“I think it had a bigger effect on our pitchers,” Angels manager Mike Scioscia said. "Jeff’s defensive presence was something that has been very settling to a lot of our pitchers. You lose that continuity for some time. Mike [Napoli] and Bobby Wilson filled in and played well, but Jeff’s a special catcher from the defensive side.
Jeffy truly is the coaches son!
Who knew that Subop’s literary saga was actually based on a true story.
"If he raced his pregnant wife he'd finish third"
Tommy Lasorda on catcher Mike Scioscia
by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Sep 4, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow
That quote makes me want to insert the /facepalm ASCII character.
I wouldn’t really say Scioscia is an unintelligent man, he has done some very smart baseball moves over his time with the Angels, but that just screams of stupidity.
by Dontbatvlad4th on Sep 4, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Scioscia's love of RISP hitting as the cornerstone to offense
is every bit as stupid.
Witty .sig goes here.
I Would Expect
a manager to be fully supportive of his players, as long as they’re on the team, but it worries me greatly to see the amount, and extent, of the praise that Mathis receives from the Soth. On the one hand, I hope it’s directly correlated to the depth of his struggles – the more he does, the more praise and support he gets (a manager should protect his players). On the other, I worry that it is genuine and honest, and that the Soth truly believes what he’s saying, and that this team will be doomed to more of this craptacular ineptitude for the next couple of seasons.
Please, Mr. Reagins, take this broken and dangerous toy away from your manager. He should not be allowed to play with it any longer.
This game was so bad it shouldn't have been televised.
If you’re reading this before the tape delayed broadcast, please don’t watch the game. Please, for the love of God!
"If he raced his pregnant wife he'd finish third"
Tommy Lasorda on catcher Mike Scioscia
by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Sep 4, 2010 3:52 PM PDT reply actions
I guess that's why MLBTV blacked it out.
Now stuck in Colorado Springs
by stuck in Romania on Sep 4, 2010 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Darn........I missed it.....
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 4, 2010 4:00 PM PDT reply actions
There was a game today?
Does anybody really give a crap anymore? I know a certain 9 guys on the field that don’t! Football!!!
Line in the sand time:
If Mathis and/or Rivera are back in significant roles next season I won’t be spending a dime or paying attention to Angels baseball. I’m the icon for a loyal fan having picked all my teams in the early 70’s and I never wavered even through much worse teams. This is different as they are doing things that make zero sense and lead nowhere with players that will never be more than marginal.
I've been telling my office angel fans the same thing
I’m switching to NL and Bud Black if Mathis has a starting role next season. I’ll return once Mathis is executed.
by Dontbatvlad4th on Sep 4, 2010 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
see you in 2020
Now stuck in Colorado Springs
by stuck in Romania on Sep 4, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I kind of agree, but not sure If tha would just be an empty threat from me.
I’m a lifelong fan of the team, but I’m getting to the point I’d just like to watch some good baseball. And my team no longer offers that.
Warning: The message above may or may not contain sarcasm. Read and interpret at your own risk.
by snowhor on Sep 4, 2010 6:23 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Jered weaver
Has won as many games as he’s lost.
WTY's ERA+ = 147 : - ) -- Kevin Frandsen > Brandon Wood??????
by Figgi4life on Sep 4, 2010 4:06 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
is the glass half full?
Now stuck in Colorado Springs
by stuck in Romania on Sep 4, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Mathisui = LLOL
Now stuck in Colorado Springs
by stuck in Romania on Sep 4, 2010 4:07 PM PDT reply actions
Why isn't there an option for Matshitty?
My God, this team is bad.
At least our magic number is down to 26.
26 more games and this horrible season is over.
I've got nothing.
Someday, we'll all look back on this season.
"If he raced his pregnant wife he'd finish third"
Tommy Lasorda on catcher Mike Scioscia
by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Sep 4, 2010 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
No we won't
If we do, we turn into a pillar of salt. Don’t look back. Ever
I meant the OTHER Howard!
by agent_99 on Sep 4, 2010 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yes, on Oct 4.
At which point we will try to purge it from our collective memories.
Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch
A radical suggestion
Sell Jered Weaver. Seriously.
1) He’s under team control for only two more years anyway.
2) 2011 looks like it’ll be as bad or worse than this year — the major problems have no hope of being fixed by anyone in the farm (the best prospects are all in the low minors).
3) He won’t get a chance to pad his win totals with the crappy outfield the Angels are running out there.
4) He’s a Scott Boras client, so he won’t come back because the front office will refuse to pay him what he’ll fetch on the open market. Or, Mark Teixeira, part 2.
Sell him and get a mess of kids so the Angels can compete in 2012.
Witty .sig goes here.
Im almost bummed enough to go along with this..........
almost.
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 4, 2010 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I must admit it is a thought to be pondered, although I'm not on that train yet.
The Borassss thing is worrisome; same with Morales. But possibly more than anyone else, I think Jared Weaver really wants to play in Anaheim.
We ought to do a thorough evaluation of the true quality and projected timing of the pitching prospects we have coming up who might be capable of assuming Weaver’s spot in the rotation…..I’m sure the Angels’ front office has.
Regarding the lack of run support, Escobar went through the same thing for a couple of years. I seem to remember that Santana also had some episodes, though not to the degree of either Escobar or Weaver.
I almost agree except...
Jered is a homegrown southern California guy and he is one of the few successes of our minor league system. I’m just too fond of him and so are most Angel fans.
by angelsownredsux on Sep 4, 2010 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I see your point
but even if I were inclined to go along with it, I wouldn’t trust Reagins, frankly, to get good value for WTY.
i don't like that idea at all
if we’re tanking at the deadline next year, weaver will have TONS of value toa team that gets him for the run and the following year. we need to see what happens in 2011 before we dismantle this team entirely.
R.I.P. Nick Adenhart - Always an Angel
by Kernel on Sep 4, 2010 4:26 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
You have to wonder
how frustrated the pitchers are to be Angels this year? I haven’t heard a peep from them in the press though which is a real testament to their professionalism. The Rangers starting pitchers look like stars because they get to face the Angels, A’s and Mariners so much .
I'm tellin ya, Mathis is going to be non-tendered.
The Kid Korea is going to be given every opportunity to catch next season.
I have to keep telling myself this. If I say it enough it is bound to come true, right?
"If he raced his pregnant wife he'd finish third"
Tommy Lasorda on catcher Mike Scioscia
by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Sep 4, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
If so...
He will land in the independent league.
Or even Bobby Wilson?
When I watch him he doesn’t looked over matched at the plate and seems to be solid behind the dish.
I tend to agree with this
I think the front office will look at paying 1.5 million or so for a .190 hitting catcher with no secondary hitting skills and a poor throwing arm, and decide to pass. When money is involved, that’s when the rubber meets the road.
The thing is
The Angels were faced with precisely the same situation last off-season, and they still elected to tender him a contract. After doing it once, I would be disappointed but not surprised to see them do it again.
True
But he will now be getting even more expensive. They thought they would get away with paying him $700K. Now, they know they will be paying him at least $1.3 million in arbitration, possibly more, and hopefully will be more cautious. With Bobby Wilson and Hank Conger available to catch for $400K each, and a lot of players on the roster due raises in arbitration, I think it is much more likely that they will want to bank the extra million and cut Mathis loose.
by The_Question on Sep 4, 2010 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Last offseason was skewed by the playoff-goggles.
Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch
Except....
Scioscia has more pull and control than most coaches.
A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.
How about a lineup change, Sosh?
That shows everybody you care!
Im bummed that I missed the game.. had to go to the beach and drink beers.
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
OT: anybody know if there is wi-fi at angels stadium?
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
My guess would be only in the suites.
Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch
Suggestion for tomorrow's line-up:
Willitts- LF
Callaspo – 3B
Kendrick – 2B
Napoli – 1B
Hunter – RF
Wilson – C
A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.
Forgot to add
Matsui – DH
Aybar – SS
Bourjos – CF
A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.
Sad thing is
When Jered flies the coop, gets his payday with a ‘real’ ball club, I actually won’t blame him. Not after this year.
"That ball went where he threw it!" - Rex Hudler
Let's not forget we played hardball w/him on his first contract
Payback is a bitch. This guy could be a perennial cy young contender if his team scored 4 runs a game. Or if he could pitch in the bizzaro world and give up negative runs.
............with a Tsunami-storm of flies
the horror ............... the horror .......... the horror
A little league pitcher from Taiwan would not have a
problem with todays line-up .
All joking aside, seriously, why the fuck is Mathis playing on this team.
I don’t buy the soth man crush. But omg Idk what to think anymore!!! “I feel like I’m taking crazy pills!!” " letigra, Ferrari, blue steel, they’re all the same look!!!"
Fuck I feel like pulling my hairs out
by HalosBiggestFan on Sep 4, 2010 8:22 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I coulda sworn that there was a different
Pregame pick question. Something about the number of total batters appearance at the plate (minimum 18)….
by maze88 on Sep 4, 2010 10:35 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Correct
Scottnak, or the powers that be, posted yesterday’s PGP result for today’s game
Light up that dumpster!!
scottnak wanted to see if we were paying attention, or he was just trying to fool us
I hate the Texas Rangers
Fail on his part
since Saturdays question required a number and Friday’s game was a yes/no question.
I bet DoV thinks its all legit though
Light up that dumpster!!
BOTG = Jered Weaver
For not throwing a shutout. He does, we win 1-0. This whole slump is all his fault becuase he knows the offense is bad and yet he still allows runs.
Angel Pitching, Angel Defense - get past that.
I know this was a few days ago, but
I’ve been away from a real computer.
Cannot help but wonder: Did Jered Weaver sleep with a teammate’s sister or something? It’s like the almost-total lack of run support is intentional. Someone has to know something about this.
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