Michael Young Willing to DH to Accommodate Adrian Beltre
Just a tweet from Evan Grant of the Dallas Morning News - but not good news for the Angels.
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Go ahead Beltre. Sign with Texas. But you will miss out playing with "premium" teammates!
Any time you think you have the game conquered the game will turn around and punch you right in the nose.
Mike Schmidt
Over Belte or over the Premium joke?
by wheres_bourjos_at on Jan 3, 2011 9:07 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Jesus Christ Beltre
Just sign somewhere already.
"Jeff Mathis is like Robb Quinlan without the sex appeal" - Sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher
I agree, but it looks even more likely now that it will be with the stRangers.
A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.
Michael
Young also said that he doesn’t want to be traded.
Big Daddy J
by Halo fann 2002 on Jan 3, 2011 8:26 PM PST via mobile reply actions
The Rangers sure are being jerk offs
to a guy that is their Tim Salmon. Poor guy
" With Haren bolstering the rotation, the Angels are set up beautifully for 2011"- Another East coast biased reporter
by Halos2011champs on Jan 3, 2011 8:26 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I don't see it that way
Young is being paid a crapload of money and he wants a ring. Torii moved to RF to make room for Bourjos. So were the Angels jerk offs for asking him to do that?
Well. . .
they already asked him to move to third to accommodate Andrus. They may not be jerkoffs, but they’re sure jerking him around.
The dude is a statue at 3B
never really figured out the transition… Was a poor defensive SS and a poor defensive 3B. Where do you put him at this point when you have a ground-ball slanted staff.
Truth be told he should have never been sent to 3B and should have been either traded or put in as DH last year.
it is always better to move a player a year to early than a year too late.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Enjoy your 15 million dollar DH, and your 15 million dollar 3rd baseman.
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by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Jan 3, 2011 9:36 PM PST up reply actions
I'm sure
they will, as they have a much better chance at making the postseason than the Angels (although I still think that their rotation will turn into a collection of pumpkins this year).
Hunter isnt Akin to Salmon nor Young
And he hadnt already switched positions before.
" With Haren bolstering the rotation, the Angels are set up beautifully for 2011"- Another East coast biased reporter
by Halos2011champs on Jan 3, 2011 10:24 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Tim Salmon is all sorts of awesome WITH a world series ring
try not to mention him in the same sentence with some lawn gnome in texas.
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
by clover_black on Jan 3, 2011 10:26 PM PST up reply actions
If Beltre does sign with Texas...
how can the Angels expect to compete in the division? If Beltre does sign with Texas it might make Vladdy more affordable but we don’t really need a DH. I wouldn’t mind seeing Figgy return to Anaheim to lead off and play 3B (especially if the Mariners pay part of his salary).
We'd count on Texas pitching to suck, and the A's offensive upgrades to get hurt
And a bunch of bounceback seasons from our guys. It’s possible, just not probable.
WHEN DID THIS TURN INTO LOSE STAR HEAVEN?

"Uhh yeah, GOLD might get you Jonas Brothers tickets. BLACK will have all three of them sucking your d***." Pat Anderson Assistant to the Assistant GM of Tampa
When you joined.
Peter Bourjos is faster than anyone on your team.
by 44FAN on Jan 3, 2011 9:33 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Is that any way to talk too the Great Gifer?
Oh right, yes it is.
Carry on.
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by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Jan 3, 2011 9:35 PM PST up reply actions
I'm driving myself insane constantly checking updates on Beltre
If he could decide where he’s going ASAP, my brain would appreciate it….
This seems like it is pretty much a done deal...
The Rangers have been engaged in contract discussions with Scott Boras, Beltre’s agent, since the Winter Meetings. No agreement has been reached, but general manager Jon Daniels and Boras resumed serious negotiations Monday night with the goal of wrapping up an agreement.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
looks like I have been on HH longer than you have....
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
dude
What blog aren’t u on?
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some douche named DFA from AN
by 2pintsofbooze on Jan 3, 2011 10:02 PM PST up reply actions
I do a lot of research in the application of statistics and quality control concepts
with sports. I follow and read a lot of different areas to gleam ideas on sports topics for research topics.
Working on MTBF in longterm and short term lineup construction with the thought of determining if the concepts can be applied to any or multiple sports and can it be condensed down to a simple set of rules or ideas…
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
already married...
searching for getting laid ended a long time ago…
Wife is working on a PhD in Analytical Chem…
Yeah… we are pretty boring…
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
..........................snore....................................
the horror ............... the horror .......... the horror
my wife is working on her PHd too
PHD of sex and pleasing me
"Uhh yeah, GOLD might get you Jonas Brothers tickets. BLACK will have all three of them sucking your d***." Pat Anderson Assistant to the Assistant GM of Tampa
LOL. Any dude who can say
I do a lot of research in the application of statistics and quality control concepts
with sports. I follow and read a lot of different areas to gleam ideas on sports topics for research topics.
Working on MTBF in longterm and short term lineup construction with the thought of determining if the concepts can be applied to any or multiple sports and can it be condensed down to a simple set of rules or ideas…
with a straight face is gettin plenty….especially in da OC.
but how does that say “done deal” to you?
by thebigtizzle on Jan 3, 2011 11:22 PM PST up reply actions
Not that it really matters..
but does that source have a link?
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
came from the MLB.com article
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20110103&content_id=16385138&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
EVAN GRANT
Looks like the Genie from Aladdin without the blue skin. Wonder if he sounds like that “scrotum-on-ice” era Robin Williams.
by Rev Halofan on Jan 3, 2011 9:50 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
have you seen him when he is wearing those hideous Hawaiian shirts?
looks like a drunken fatman that tried to get into body painting…
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
It seems odd that the Rangers aren't learning from their WS experience that pitching is essential
and if their rotation regresses at all from last year it’s gonna be ugly for them down the stretch, with or without Beltre.
though i guess you could say that they tried hard to get Lee.
my question is what is worse
failing to sign Lee and then doing nothing in a weak SP FA market or going in a different direction as a plan B?
Seems like the lack of a real impact SP outside of Lee in the FA market and KC’s desire to move Greinke to the NL left Texas with few real options. Outside of maybe Pavano there really isn’t much avaliable at this point in either the FA or trade fronts…
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
yeah it seems like their options are even more limited than ours
Good pitching is harder to acquire than respectable position players.
Hypothetical Rangers with Lee (and not Beltre) seem way better and more well-rounded than with Beltre (and not Lee).
Young as utility & DH is certainly better on D than Vlad (which is saying very little), but Beltre + Young vs. Young + Vlad doesn’t seem like a much of an upgrade on offense.
The difference in Beltre and Young's D is pretty huge
going from slightly below average to the best defensive 3B in baseball right now is a pretty huge jump.
I am not surprised to see Texas stay away from Vlad after his falling off a cliff the second half of the season. Combine that with his complete inability to play in the field he is a much greater crapshoot now than even two or three years ago.
The question won’t be will the contract be worth its value in the years 1, 2 and even 3 but the back end of the deal. It is interesting to note that Young’s deal is up around the time that Beltre might to begin to show chinks defensively.
Lets also not forget that the average $$ per WAR is still rising along with the average player salary, median salary and number of 100 M payrolls league wide. Those characteristics tend to help lessen the blow of bad contracts on the back end.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
CAN YOU REPEAT THAT FOR AGRY MATTHEWS JR
he’s sorry, just with nothing else to do he was busy counting his money…
it seems like they are content going with what they have, which is pretty much
the same thing they rolled out last year to start the season (Feldman, Harden, Lewis, Wilson, and Hunter).
Now they are just plugging in Holland and Webb for Feldman and Harden, which is hard to say with a straight face is any noticeable downgrade (Feldman and Harden were both bad last year).
If they’re in it at the trading deadline, I’m sure they’ll look to any potential sellers with a SP to move similarly to what they did with Lee last year.
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Angels are learning from their 3rd place finish..
to get to 4th place, do not sign their second most productive bat from 2010 or find a suitable replacement.
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
by clover_black on Jan 3, 2011 10:12 PM PST up reply actions
cool. good for Young and the rangers.
Now FO please go out and resign Vlad
by GutterDem0n on Jan 3, 2011 10:06 PM PST via mobile reply actions
"Whoop! Whoop! Oh boy! Oh boy!"
To thos point… it can be argued which whos had a worst offseason… lets see who closes this deal!!!
by wheres_bourjos_at on Jan 3, 2011 10:11 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Man i should not comment
When im drunk! “WHOOP WHOOP”!!!
by wheres_bourjos_at on Jan 3, 2011 10:12 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Starting the week off right, eh Bourjie?
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by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Jan 3, 2011 10:18 PM PST up reply actions
Any chance
Beltre still lands in Anaheim? What do you all think? Not looking to good…
The ABC 11 o'clock news in Seattle
announced that the rumored offer from the Rangers is $90 to 96 million for 5 years. I haven’t looked for a source yet.
THIS… IS… ANAHEIM!!
If that's true
I wouldn’t be so surprised. This offseason the value of free agents has gone up, and I just wish Arte and Tony were willing to see that that and spend the money, but they didn’t. This hurts the Angels so much, and it’s going to be frustrating seeing him in a Texas uniform next year.
By allowing the Rangers to get him, they gave up the division most likely and screwed themselves for years to come at third, unless a trade happens, which I highly doubt. Texas missed out on their big free agent, so they went to the next big one available, realizing they had to do something. Wish the Angels FO thought that way. And I really don’t believe it’s overpaying that much. The guy has had a better career and had a better season than Werth last year.
Sigh…
I don't know that it's true and I couldn't find a source that even whispered this.
I was yelling at the tv when they announced it while my husband kind of laughed at me.
THIS… IS… ANAHEIM!!
Don't speak in the past tense.
The Rangers didn’t sign him yet. Maybe Tony is burning the midnight oil.
Then again, maybe I’m delirious and delusional.
A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.
it's not delusional to give up already
The guy hasn’t signed yet
The games have yet to be played and Tx pitching is liable to suck this year.
And reply fail X2.
But it should have worked because I did click on your reply button.
THIS… IS… ANAHEIM!!
Here we go again
http://twitter.com/TBrownYahoo/status/22325046190022656
Y! source: Beltre and Rangers are close on a six-year contract. Deal could be finalized today.
8:15 am Tuesday Update: Six-year deal is close at hand w/Rangers
A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.
Now
Adrian Beltre is gonna be a ranger and the angels came short on another player. Why isn’t Arte doing anything?
Big Daddy J
by Halo fann 2002 on Jan 4, 2011 8:29 AM PST via mobile reply actions
If the latest updates are true, and the Rangers are on the verge of signing Beltre....
Then it would appear that we have no viable plan for 2011. Although I never thought that we had the payroll space to add two huge pieces (like Crawford and Beltre), I did think that we would add one of them, not only because we have pressing needs at 3B and LF but also because our first round pick is protected.
It appears that our strategy is to go ahead with our current roster, re-evaluate the team’s standing at the trade deadline, and then decide whether to buy or sell. The upside is that we should be able to spend next year when we shed the contracts of Kazmir ($12M), Matthews ($11M), Pineiro ($8M), Rodney ($5.5M), and Rivera ($5.25M) — a total of $42 million. The problem is 2011 could be bleak, and if we have another losing season, we may have to pay a premium (like the Nationals did with Werth) to attract top talent.
One other silver lining: expectations should be lower than any point since 2002, so I doubt many people will be disappointed by the result.
Paying a free agency premium seems to be the de rigueur this offseason
All the big names got more than expected. The history of FA signings is littered with successes and failures. Only time will tell on the 2010/11 crop. Time to hope for a crafty trade for the Angels methinks.
I knew we should have been on Uggla or DeJesus, goddamn. Still plenty of time though.
by TheQuestforMerlin on Jan 4, 2011 8:45 AM PST up reply actions
I agree that there is still plenty of time, but I think options are kind of running out.
It seems like every player there have been trade rumors about has been traded or isn’t actually available.
Or maybe I’m just being a little pessimistic right now, I don’t know. I think the contract Beltre got is more than he’s worth and I would probably be upset if the Angels gave it to him, but it still really sucks to lose one of our major FA targets to Texas.
I wanted Beltre and would be willing to (over)pay as the Rangers are/have
I think he would have provided good value over the duration.
But yeah, pessimism is bad. And rife. I’m always hopeful though, just as I believe a healthy Izturis at 3B (please!) would actually be quite good for us.
by TheQuestforMerlin on Jan 4, 2011 9:06 AM PST up reply actions
Not sure there is plenty of time left
Or, perhaps as MMP says, there just aren’t that many options left. At this point, I don’t see us doing much. I think that the most likely scenario is that we will sign a veteran to play left field (Damon or Podsednik) or to DH (Thome or Vlad).
The other 13 hitters that will make the team on opening day will be the ones we have right now — Abreu (LF/DH), Aybar (SS), Bourjos (CF), Callaspo (bench), Hunter (RF), Izturis (3B/SS/2B), Kendrick (2B), Mathis (Ca), Morales (1B), Napoli (Ca/1B/DH), Rivera (bench), Willits (bench), and Wood (bench).
Yup, realistically Texas have to be favorites, although...
Outside of their interleague schedule in 2009 they weren’t all that awesome. It’s just that we were crap. I also don’t think the Rangers have actually improved. Perhaps a little. That SP staff is just risky and not all that good… Plus no Vlad who killed it for them last year (obviously replaced by Beltre, but you need to look at Beltre less as the 2010 version and more as the .260-.280 hitter judging by his career).
A vet is a definite possibility. A Thome, Manny, Vlad or Damon could possibly be okay, as long as he comes cheap, whoever it is.
by TheQuestforMerlin on Jan 4, 2011 9:10 AM PST up reply actions
It feels as if we are getting the leftovers.
A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.
Problem with room-to-spend is that we have so many arb-eligible players
Most in the Majors this year, probably some high number the next, too. Our young core is increasingly expensive and so far not good enough.
I agree with you completely
Having $25 million come off the books this year did nothing for us, because we are in for some big raises, particularly to Kendry (who, I believe, made less than $1 million last season). Still, we have substantially more money — an additional $17 million — coming off the books next year than we did this year.
Basically time is running out for Aybar/Kendrick and the Catchers to prove they are "worth" a spot on our team
Or, at least, I hope that is how the FO sees it. No point holding onto expensive and underperforming players.
by TheQuestforMerlin on Jan 4, 2011 9:12 AM PST up reply actions
Agreed
If they don’t progress this year, they may not be back a year from now.
Why do I keep getting this feeling of Deja Vu (all over again)?
A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.
Kendry should only get a modest raise
considering he only played 2/5 of last season. thats pretty much the only silver lining to that injury.
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by 2pintsofbooze on Jan 4, 2011 9:25 AM PST up reply actions
The caveat to that is
there won’t be a lot of quality free agents next year.
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
I blog about the Angels at First2Third.net
Really?
Pujols, Fielder, Uggla, Weeks, Jose Reyes, Rollins, Willingham, Beltran, DeJesus, Jason Kubel, Mark Buehrle, Edwin Jackson, Heath Bell, and Jonathans Broxton and Papelbon seems like a much longer list of quality FA than was available this year.
Yeah
Maybe the halos can sign prince fielder.
Big Daddy J
by Halo fann 2002 on Jan 4, 2011 8:39 AM PST via mobile reply actions
I know I'm still in the minority.
But the greatest illusion the [Ninja] ever did, was make you believe he wasn’t there.
Players don’t report until February. I’m not sold the Angels are done moving pieces. And even if they are, I do not fear the 2011 season. Maybe I’m a hopeless optimistic, but I feel the Halos with the current pitching staff, returning Morales, and a year of Callapso will be better than last year. Adding Abreu leading off, Aybar batting 9th, using Napoli more frequently, will all benefit the line up.
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
I blog about the Angels at First2Third.net
Nice optimism!
If the Giants can win it all with their best hitters being Aubrey Huff and half a season of Buster Posey (with bad years from Sandoval and Rowand) then so can we!*
*As long as Weaver, Haren, Santana, Pineiro and Kaz can match Lincecum, Cain, Sanchez, Zito and Bumgarner… which, isn’t out of the realms of possibilities…
by TheQuestforMerlin on Jan 4, 2011 9:27 AM PST up reply actions
Someone get on the phone to Jordan Walden
He needs to beard up, pronto
by TheQuestforMerlin on Jan 4, 2011 9:37 AM PST up reply actions
we as fans can grow them

"Uhh yeah, GOLD might get you Jonas Brothers tickets. BLACK will have all three of them sucking your d***." Pat Anderson Assistant to the Assistant GM of Tampa
You are a hopeless optimitic.
If the Rangers sign Beltre, I’m close to just being hopeless.
A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.
Why
Isnt Arte doing anything, he said he wants to win right.
Big Daddy J
by Halo fann 2002 on Jan 4, 2011 9:28 AM PST via mobile reply actions
i am glad they wasted that money
we will just have to trade for Pujols
"Uhh yeah, GOLD might get you Jonas Brothers tickets. BLACK will have all three of them sucking your d***." Pat Anderson Assistant to the Assistant GM of Tampa
^^^Dreamer^^^
When I'm not at the stadium, I'd rather be watching my Halos back in Costa Rica!
by Dono Romantico on Jan 4, 2011 9:43 AM PST up reply actions
With apologies to CommanderNate: This was so good I cut and pasted it from the other thread.
Yeah go ahead and waste your money winning and going to the playoffs! We’ll sit here and pay as much or more than you to finish 3rd place! Stupid Rangers.
Go Angel Negotiating Tactics!!!
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by Commander_Nate on Jan 4, 2011 9:01 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.
It's just a cokelusion
When I'm not at the stadium, I'd rather be watching my Halos back in Costa Rica!
































