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Why we should sign Vladdy......

In 2008 the Angels were 100-62 with these players:


Catcher: Jeff Mathis
First Base: Mark Teixeira
Second Base: Howie Kendrick
Third Base: Chone Figgins
Shortstop: Erick Aybar
Left Field: Garret Anderson
Center Field: Torii Hunter
Right Field: Vladimir Guerrero
Designated Hitter: Juan Rivera

2008 Angels Pitching Staff
John Lackey
Jered Weaver
Jon Garland
Joe Saunders
Ervin Santana

Ok lots of people are panicking about the 2011 season being a dissapointment, If we sign Vladdy our lineup would be

Catcher: Mike Napoli

First Base: Kendry Morales

Second Base: Howie Kendrick

Shortstop: Erick Aybar

Third Base: Alberto Callaspo

Left Field: Bobby Abreu/ Juan Rivera

Center Field: Peter " Gorgeous" Bourjos

Right Field: Torii Hunter

 

Pitching Staff 2011

Jered Weaver

Dan Haren

Ervin Santana

Joel Pineiro

Scott Kazmir

IF the Angels do sign Vladdy we need to find a new home for Jeff Mathis and Brandon Wood.

Vladdy will most likely sign for 1 year 6-8 million with a club option.

Lets compare 2008 with my projected 2011 lineup.

The only differences are Teixeira, Mathis, Figgins, and Garret Anderson.

A Healthy Morales can outhit Mark Teixeira any day of the week.

Mathis does not compare  to Napoli offensively.  In 2010 Mathis threw out 23% of the runners while Napoli threw out 27%.

Figgins may be our only difference as he could steal more bags than Callaspo and get on base more often, but Callaspo has shown signs of being able to hit base hits.

As for Garret Anderson, Abreu is definitely better than him at this point of his career.

All we need to do to turn the 2011 season around is to sign Vladdy and dump Jeff Mathis.

 Our pitching staff this year is of course better

Weaver has proven himself to be an ace.

Dan Haren is going to dominate.

Ervin Santana is truly a cy young candidate with electric stuff if he could work on his mechanics.

Joel Pineiro is a really good pitcher who knows how to get outs.

Our only question mark is Scott Kazmir, Will he be SCOTT KAZMIR in 2011?

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Would Vladimir Guerrero make a difference if the Angels signed him for 2011?
Yes
114 votes
Somewhat
52 votes
No
32 votes

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Mathis isn't going anywhere.

He’ll be starting, not Naps. And nobody is going to take B Wood off our hands and give us anything substantial in return (and really, why would they? Wood is a bust ) Besides, the only aging OF we need to sign is Damon or Podsednik, then we’ll be unstoppable!

YOU DON'T KNOW THE POWER OF THE DARKSIDE.....

by halofolife on Jan 6, 2011 5:10 PM PST reply actions  

Just throw wood into a deal with Mathis

Everybody know Mathis needs to go but Scioscia loves him therefore he will most likely not be traded

by angels922 on Jan 6, 2011 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Duh, didn't you see?

Vlad was here in 2008 and we won 100 games! Now if we could only get Anderson, Figgy and Teixiera back…

by dmhead on Jan 6, 2011 5:19 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

the fact
that the only reason why you suggested Vlad come back is some BS about him playing here 2 years ago. Abreu is better offensively than Vlad. Abreu had an oWAR of 3.0 compared with Vlad’s 2.3. Hell, even Matsui outhit Vlad by .01.

by phoenix15 on Jan 6, 2011 5:32 PM PST up reply actions  

the clap

Peter Bourjos is faster than anyone on your team.

by 44FAN on Jan 6, 2011 5:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I would rather sign this Vlad,


Heard he was good with a stick

Supplier of Angels Fans Since 2009

by DAD OF VLAD on Jan 6, 2011 5:43 PM PST reply actions  

Wow, gettin' all historical with your JPEGs and GIFs, DoV?

Did you start paying attention in class again?

Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.

by Commander_Nate on Jan 6, 2011 6:41 PM PST up reply actions  

He has no time for class

Between taking care of his 40 children and searching up JPEGS and GIFs

"Jeff Mathis is like Robb Quinlan without the sex appeal" - Sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher

by ryanfea on Jan 6, 2011 7:01 PM PST up reply actions  

ONLINE CLASS BOY

Supplier of Angels Fans Since 2009

by DAD OF VLAD on Jan 6, 2011 9:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Signing Vlad does not fix the core problems in LF, 3B, finding a productive lead off hitter

Please – stop living in the past, what happened in 2009 is an eternity from here.

If the collective wants to dream of days gone past, let’s sing a tune….
 

I had a friend was a big baseball player
Back in high school
He could throw that speedball by you
Make you look like a fool boy
Saw him the other night at this roadside bar
I was walking in, he was walking out
We went back inside sat down had a few drinks
But all he kept talking about was

Chorus:
Glory days well they’ll pass you by
Glory days in the wink of a young girl’s eye
Glory days, glory days

Well there’s a girl that lives up the block
Back in school she could turn all the boy’s heads
Sometimes on a friday i’ll stop by
And have a few drinks after she put her kids to bed
Her and her husband bobby well they split up
I guess it’s two years gone by now
We just sit around talking about the old times,
She says when she feels like crying
She starts laughing thinking about

Chorus

My old man worked 20 years on the line
And they let him go
Now everywhere he goes out looking for work
They just tell him that he’s too old
I was 9 nine years old and he was working at the
Metuchen ford plant assembly line
Now he just sits on a stool down at the legion hall
But i can tell what’s on his mind

Glory days yeah goin back
Glory days aw he ain’t never had
Glory days, glory days

Now i think i’m going down to the well tonight
And i’m going to drink till i get my fill
And i hope when i get old i don’t sit around thinking about it
But i probably will
Yeah, just sitting back trying to recapture
A little of the glory of, well time slips away
And leaves you with nothing mister but
Boring stories of glory days

by mustard_man on Jan 6, 2011 5:55 PM PST reply actions  

Raad family just listening to that on the way back from Wrightwood

What a great song that captures what so many of us and our friends and family go through: reliving “Glory Days”.
The guy can write him some lyrics.

by Raaddad on Jan 6, 2011 6:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Absolutely agree

His older stuff never gets “tired”

by mustard_man on Jan 6, 2011 6:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I like it all

“Diesel and Dust” is now my fave.
I’m digging his mellower folkier stuff lately

by Raaddad on Jan 6, 2011 7:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Jungleland for the ultimate win

Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch

by red floyd on Jan 6, 2011 8:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Hold the Vladdy.

Reagins, and his utter failure to sign quality FAs this off-season, has left me with a real hunger for something substantial. But Guerrero? I hate getting served leftovers.

A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.

by angelslogic on Jan 6, 2011 8:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Just can't fathom this for another season.

A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.

by angelslogic on Jan 6, 2011 8:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Because there's no other reason to see this team

Seriously, these guys aren’t making the playoffs. Or if they do, it will be a miracle. So why not bring Vlad back for some good feelings and a chance to get a guy in the Hall of Fame with an Angels hat on? He’s better than Rivera.

I guess the only thing that holds me back is knowing this kills any chance of improving our outfield defense, and that this assumes Napoli gets starts behind the plate. But as I said, if we’re not going anywhere anyway, sign him to a one year deal and let him be entertaining!

Defending maligned chants since 2009

by Gorbachav5 on Jan 6, 2011 6:50 PM PST reply actions  

Things have really gone down the pan...

when we’re tyring to talk ourselves into bringing back Vlad…what leads anyone to believe we’d be watching 2010 Vlad instead of 2009 Vlad…remember him?

by Dr. Halo on Jan 6, 2011 6:54 PM PST reply actions  

Does any of this crap matter anymore?

Might at well just send out what we got and save money.

WWSWWWG!

(we will suck with what we got)

"I get no respect. The way my luck is running, if I was a politician I would be honest."

Rodney Dangerfield

by Monkeyspanked on Jan 6, 2011 7:08 PM PST reply actions  

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by Halos in DE on Jan 6, 2011 7:23 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

http://nooooooooooooooo.com/

Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch

by red floyd on Jan 6, 2011 8:07 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Cool.

A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.

by angelslogic on Jan 6, 2011 8:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I've been thinking the same thing the past few days

At least Arte is close to completing his dream of become the West Coast version of a big-market, East Coast team.

Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.

by Commander_Nate on Jan 6, 2011 8:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed.

Any way, history suggests that the when the Angels cut ties, they stAy cut.

This is the space where you write a clever quote or something like that.

by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Jan 6, 2011 7:40 PM PST reply actions  

Reply fail to Halos in DE.

Not a premium reply on my part.

This is the space where you write a clever quote or something like that.

by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Jan 6, 2011 7:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Or Wally Joyner, or Jim Abbott

Or, if I recall correctly, Mark Clear.

by rspencer on Jan 6, 2011 7:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Or...

Even Percival, to be technical.

by Red114 on Jan 6, 2011 7:56 PM PST up reply actions  

true true

I should have modified this to mean recent history Stoneman and Reagins.
(Of course, I sure someone will post about ten thousand different times when the Angels brought someone back a la Gary Disarcina)

This is the space where you write a clever quote or something like that.

by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Jan 6, 2011 7:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Sorry, I couldn't respond,

I was having my chops surgically reattached.
:}

This is the space where you write a clever quote or something like that.

by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Jan 6, 2011 8:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Uhhhh...

So where is the ‘because’ to your ‘why’?

by Red114 on Jan 6, 2011 7:41 PM PST reply actions  

JIM THOME PLZ

"F it, let's pitch." - Ervin Santana

by Chzburger Jones on Jan 6, 2011 8:17 PM PST reply actions  

This is so true it makes me sad.
Callaspo has shown signs of being able to hit base hits

by Balls and Strikes on Jan 6, 2011 8:22 PM PST reply actions  

he is premium!!!!

"Pie Iesu domine, dona eis requiem".

by ArchAngel_7 on Jan 7, 2011 2:39 AM PST up reply actions  

It'll never work.

The Yankees will just re-sign their 1927 roster, and we are all screwed again.

Longtime fan of what has become the State College Angels of East Anaheim

by Stirrups on Jan 6, 2011 8:40 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

I had not thought about that.

A team partially made up of zombies WOULD be really hard to beat. Can you imagine how unstoppable a zombie Ruth or Gehrig would be in the field. They would have no fear of chasing after balls hit their way!

by Angelsfan015 on Jan 7, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

We

Could add beltre oh crap. what about crawford oh shoot.nevermind. We blew both of those.

Vote Napoli and Hunter for the 2012 election

by M.Napoli For President in 2012 on Jan 6, 2011 8:41 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Damn it!

Take your Ritalin, please.

"That's the true harbinger of spring, not crocuses or swallows returning to Capistrano, but the sound of a bat on a ball." ~Bill Veeck

by LAASurfin on Jan 6, 2011 9:12 PM PST reply actions  

If we got rid of Mathis and Rivera.

  The Phillies need a right hand bat for left, perhaps they might trade for Juan and Mathis.

by Wally's World on Jan 7, 2011 1:02 PM PST reply actions  

I don't even know if Rivera and Mathis,

Could get us the Philly Phanatic in return.

YOU DON'T KNOW THE POWER OF THE DARKSIDE.....

by halofolife on Jan 7, 2011 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

What makes anyone think ...

that Vlad will want to come here? Reagins couldn’t get Rickey Henley Motherfucking I-Ain’t-Ready-To-Retire Henderson to sign with us right now.

by LazorkoRules on Jan 8, 2011 12:32 AM PST reply actions  

no

NO WANT Gif - NO WANT
see more Gifs

NOT MY QUINNY!!!!

by halofan4life on Jan 8, 2011 10:30 AM PST reply actions  

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