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Around SBN: Full Coverage of 2012 Coke 600

Whoa! Reading this article chronicling events inside Boston's collapse are revealing.....and depressing.

"The owners also indicated in postseason remarks they were generally unaware of how deeply damaged the Sox had become until after the season. They denied being distracted by their expanding sports conglomerate - from the Sox and NESN to Roush Fenway Racing and the Liverpool Football Club - but they professed to have no knowledge about players drinking during games, among other issues."

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I knew lackey was a douche...

but this is too perfect

"id take 5th Dimention Wormhole Rivera over Wells any day of the week"
-clover_black

by the king of CERA on Oct 12, 2011 9:18 AM PDT reply actions  

Whoever takes over in the FO

Needs to keep a binder full of this kind of “journalism”. Next time we’re going after the “big splash”, just pull out the binder and ask them if this kind of daily mental grind is what they want to get into, or would they rather only deal with an occasional brain explosion caused by a TJ Simers article instead?

by BigKahunaMan on Oct 12, 2011 9:29 AM PDT reply actions  

Speaking of "splash",
After this meltdown, will the Red Sox think about lowering ticket prices to hold fans on board? The product was generic.
Bill, West Warwick, RI

Haven’t heard that’s in the works. They’ll make a splash with something this offseason that will get you back. Not sure they’ll be losing any fans anyway.

I picked this up from the weekly column “Ask Nick”. Reading the entire column, questions and answers, is a bit tedious, but paints a vivid picture of the woes of the tortured Red Sox fans and the aging team that seems to have more problems than we would ever have imagined: Lackey is a total bust, Crawford’s not the answer. It goes on and on; they’re grasping at straws.

by wumbug on Oct 12, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Excerpt from bottom of "Ask Nick" article:
Now that its over, my feeling on this team is the Red Sox are very statistics minded, and the problem with stat people is sometimes they dismiss the intangibles that players have. J.D. Drew and Carl Crawford are the prime examples. They bring nothing to the table or in the clubhouse, but statistically they wash out better than their actual performance. But character counts. Stat guys think team chemistry and leadership are dispensable, but its clear that when your team is collapsing or in a deep hole, it helps to have tough characters to right the ship. Bring back the “Idiots.” They were at least fun to watch.

Bill, Adams, Mass.

Great analysis.

by wumbug on Oct 13, 2011 7:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fascinating.

Sounds like Ellsbury wants out about now. He’s arbitration eligible next year, and they’ve got him through 2014, but I wonder if an unhappy player might lead to a trade.

by Rock Island Line on Oct 12, 2011 10:15 AM PDT reply actions  

We should trade Mike Napoli for him.

Vernon Wells 2011 Stats (.218/.248/.412) and 2010 road stats (.224/.299/.400). The front office shouldn't have been surprised.

by snowhor on Oct 12, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Ha!!! HA!!!"

This looks like it will continue for many more seasons, and we thought there were problems over here.

by eyespy on Oct 12, 2011 10:33 AM PDT reply actions  

Calcaterra had something to say about this this morning
What to make of all of this? Old-style Boston blood-letting, I reckon. Not to say that the things listed above weren’t all real problems. They were. But they’re all things you never hear about if, over the course of six months, the Red Sox win one more game and make the playoffs.

And about a similar moralistic besmirching of the Yankees by the New York media:

Just once — once! — I’d like to see someone identify a killer instinct before the end of a team’s season rather than after it. Because until that happens I’m going to believe something very shocking: that stuff like this is all ex-post-facto narrative building, not baseball analysis that is useful in the slightest.

I’d still rather have good baseball players than an uplifting clubhouse full of wholesome family men. It worked for the ‘86 Mets, and they’re just the ones we’ve heard about.

by Suboptimal on Oct 12, 2011 12:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Agreed - "Leadership is a 3-Run Home Run"

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." - Woody Hayes

by johnnyangel101 on Oct 12, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah but there's a reason that Mets team didn't become a dynasty.

Cocaine’s a hell of a drug.

Tim Salmon: The once and future Kingfish.

by Teixeira Who? on Oct 13, 2011 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

But...

They were better than the ’27 Yankees! Better than the Boys of Summer! Better than The Big Red Machine!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Suck it, Boston!

Tim Salmon: The once and future Kingfish.

by Teixeira Who? on Oct 13, 2011 7:24 PM PDT reply actions  

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