Define The Space Between 1 and Zero
by Rev Halofan on Oct 29, 2011 12:08 AM PDT
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PrintThere is a space between one and zero.
It is the distance between possessing and never possessing.
You can whine about umpiring and conspiracies.
You can gloat about the regular season standings all postseason long.
You can sit on the dull pythagorean throne of run differential.
You can do all this and still not possess that which is possessed.
There is a space between these two things,
Between something and nothing.
And there is a name for the space between one and zero,
For the difference between the Angels possessing a world championship...
And the Texas Rangers staring at the dying bubbles of their ginger ale.
And the name for the space between ONE and ZERO is Gulf.
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Ginger ale?
That says it all, no wonder they lost.
I see red people
by The Limey on Oct 29, 2011 12:18 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
They wouldn't want Joshie to end up taking body shots off helpless escorts later in the evening!
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Oct 29, 2011 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions
I absolutely love the fact that they don't do alcohol in celebration out of respect for Hamilton
That seems like an awesome display towards a teammate.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
by Gorbachav5 on Oct 31, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
one issue with that, though
is what if it were a teammate who was a role-player, a utility guy, instead of a superstar, would the team bind together for one of their own regardless of his status as a run-producer?
by Rev Halofan on Oct 31, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Excellent point.
Probably not. so is this respecting his past or pandering to his present?
"How much more could you possibly need? I never played this game for money purposes, I played it for love and for championships."
---Jered Weaver.
Couldn't have happened to worse bunch of fans
Checked out LSB for the first time, it’s bizzare how there identity is built around hating the Angels. Hardly a peep about the Cards, but plenty of time for Angel hate.
Unlike this cat, my love for the LAA will never die.
they undertand one thing
the bigger defeat for them on Friday may have been the DiPoto hiring.
by Rev Halofan on Oct 29, 2011 12:59 AM PDT up reply actions
It sure was a great day for the Halos
Looking forward to the press conference quotes today.
by Brody on Oct 29, 2011 5:32 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Nolan Ryan face was worth the whole last two games in St. Louis.
Napoli's 27th, 28th, 29th and 30th homers of the year (four more than Jeff Mathis' career total) rained down on Angel Stadium like knives from the ceiling.
I loved the sour puss he had. It would have been priceless if dubya the war criminal was sitting next to him…
HaloDroid, I think you got lost on your way to the Daily Koz blogsite.
This is baseball talk — not drunken, syntax-deficient, premature “Mission Accomplished” grandstanding, ex-President bashing.
"I'm Tony Reagins. People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks. Years later, a doctor will tell me that I have an I.Q. of 48 and am what some people call mentally retarded."
by PieceOfAase on Oct 29, 2011 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Since dubya previoulsy owned the team, it would have been great to see the look on his face at that moment.
Never owned it
Was public face of ownership team.
You boys stick around--there'll be turkey and ice cream later!
Yes, he was the public face
but he also was one of the owners (1989 -1998). He had a 2% stake in the team.
Don't be a jerk.
HH is a politics-free zone.
You boys stick around--there'll be turkey and ice cream later!
Amused
I smile when I read these little HH political skirmishes. Smile because they’re usually short and for the most part mild. We usually hide our political leanings on this baseball blog, but sometimes we just can’t quite keep our mouths closed. Seems to me that HH, like OC, is probably about 65% conservative. Just a guess. I’ve read plenty of Obama bashing here, gone unchallenged. One frequent member of the community used the word “coon” to describe a photo likeness of our president. Classy. No one told him to cool it, including me. (Why bother?) One of the HH bloggers, responding to a relevant question, wrote about how he was a conservative businessman in uber-liberal San Francisco. Even our fearless leader tips his hand sometimes, showing a libertarian tilt. And that seems totally cool. We’re a community here, and over time, those of us who pay attention and stick around get to know one another. Most of us have political leanings, and so why not show them from time to time, provided our comments are subtle, and relevant to baseball. This particular instance would have been fine if HaloDroid had simply let us know that he hates the Rangers partly because he hates to see the ex-president having a good time behind the backstop. The problem is calling him a war criminal. That’s like calling Obama a Socialist. Both claims are rooted in some truth. Bush authorized torture. Obama believes in using tax revenue for social programs. But these are both decent men following their own convictions. We just don’t agree with them sometimes. No need to fall into the Yahoo News trap, where halfwits on both sides of the political spectrum spout childish name calling and pretend they’re engaging in political discourse. We’re better, and smarter, than that around here.
I hope one day someone posts a story about politics in baseball. Surely there’s a lot to write about. Then we’d all get the chance to air our positions. Hopefully, if this ever happens, we’ll be reasonable and continue to show respect for one another.
by Rock Island Line on Oct 29, 2011 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
One strike away.......twice.
Napoli's 27th, 28th, 29th and 30th homers of the year (four more than Jeff Mathis' career total) rained down on Angel Stadium like knives from the ceiling.
by 44FAN on Oct 29, 2011 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
Rec's in perpetuity!
My response to your letter of February 19, 1976, is - kiss my ass.
Sincerely,
Bill Baxley, Attorney General
by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Oct 30, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Looks like Sling Blade.
"I'm Tony Reagins. People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks. Years later, a doctor will tell me that I have an I.Q. of 48 and am what some people call mentally retarded."
Pardon me...
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Okay now back to your discussion
"How much more could you possibly need? I never played this game for money purposes, I played it for love and for championships."
---Jered Weaver.
Oh there have definitely been some political threads...
…the one during the last presidential election where Rev allowed the patients out of the asylum for a few brief and highly entertaining hours was a particular highlight.
Unfortunately they always get deleted because someone oversteps the mark and invokes the Nazis etc…
I see red people
by The Limey on Oct 30, 2011 3:53 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Which is stupid, since it's a well-known scientific principle that it HAS to happen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Oct 30, 2011 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sounds like fun.
I’m sure you’ve answered this question a thousand times, but I’m curious how a Brit becomes an Angels fan. Most people I’ve met from England think baseball is a thin ripoff of Cricket, and a girl’s game on top of that.
by Rock Island Line on Oct 31, 2011 6:59 AM PDT up reply actions
As much as I hate the fact he works in Arlington, trying to kick our asses ...
… I can never hate on Nolan Ryan. He was my hero when I was a kid. Jim Fregosi first, then Nolan, who Fregosi got traded for.
Don't call me Bugs. Although Bugs Bunny could do it all on the baseball field.
by highlandhalo on Oct 29, 2011 5:12 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't hate Nolan Ryan either, I admire the man.
It’s just FOX’s obsession with showing him sitting in his box seat at critical moments in the games and whether his face is showed approval or disapproval with his team has become a side-show in itself.
Rex Hudler had him on his Saturday show once and it was the best baseball interview and stories told I have ever heard.
Napoli's 27th, 28th, 29th and 30th homers of the year (four more than Jeff Mathis' career total) rained down on Angel Stadium like knives from the ceiling.
Ryan was Mr. Angel before Tim Salmon
For years, he was the bright spot in Anaheim.
I admire what he’s done in Texas in instilling a tougher mentality in the pitching staff and getting stability in the franchise. I felt bad for his pain – but I took joy in the pain of Rangers Nation.
And to sum up the OP: “If you ain’t first, yer last”
"And the Anaheim Angels are the Champions of Baseball!"
by Grichfan on Oct 29, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Any anamosity between Ryan and the Halos can be traced to one man....
Buzzie Bavasi.
I dislike the Texas Rangers, but will never hate Nolan Ryan and what be gave the Halos during his seasons here. He was a real man, and he played the game like few did, have, or ever will.
From Jeff Mathis' TOPPS card: "Jeff is a defensive catcher, but he can rake it when it counts." Jeff has a lifetime .199 MLB batting average
by mustard_man on Oct 29, 2011 5:25 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ditto
Ryan would be in the Hall of Fame with a Halo cap if not for Bavasi.
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." - Woody Hayes
by johnnyangel101 on Oct 29, 2011 7:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Fuck Nolan Ryan and his constipated 9th Inning look.
His formative and dominant years (4 no-hitters, the 383 K’s, the 100.9, the 1-2 punch with Tanana) were spent here. His feelings were hurt when the senile Bavasi stated that he could sign two 8-7 pitchers to make up for The Express. The only vivid memory of Nolan in a Rangers cap was his head-noogying of a hapless Robin Ventura in ’93.
My guess is that Nolan slammed a whole bottle of Maalox with a bottle of Thunderbird after that debacle last night.
"I'm Tony Reagins. People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks. Years later, a doctor will tell me that I have an I.Q. of 48 and am what some people call mentally retarded."
It's amazing how well those two 8-7 guys did too
For those of you who are too young to understand – Nolan Ryan an early version of Kirk McCaskill, Jim Abbott and Weaver and Haren.
He pitched in front of anemic offenses and it was his pitching that kept his teams in the game.
It was obvious that he wasn’t going into the Hall of Fame wearing an Angels cap – I thought it was going to be an Astros cap – but Texas payed Ryan ($1 million??) to have their cap on his bust.
The Angels could have ponied up the cash to him (or Dave Winfield).
"And the Anaheim Angels are the Champions of Baseball!"
Nolan Ryan
is perhaps the most overrated player of all time. His longevity and heater make him one for the ages, but it’s ridiculous so many people regard him as some sort of baseball god. The guy led the league in walks more times than I can count, never captured a single Cy Young award or World Series crown, and doesn’t crack the top 25 in FIP- among starters with 1000+ innings the last 50 years… Dan Haren is above him on that list!
Screw him and the horse he rode in on.
by BigGame48 on Oct 29, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Technically he has one WS crown. '69 Mets
I agree that his personna and longevity contributed to his legacy,
My response to your letter of February 19, 1976, is - kiss my ass.
Sincerely,
Bill Baxley, Attorney General
by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Oct 29, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Not even technically
He was member of the team – he pitched in the playoffs and got the save for Game 3 of the Series.
"And the Anaheim Angels are the Champions of Baseball!"
They could have used him in the tenth on Thursday night.
My response to your letter of February 19, 1976, is - kiss my ass.
Sincerely,
Bill Baxley, Attorney General
by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Oct 29, 2011 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions
funny too
how you use FIP and Cy Young voting – the extreme saber measurement of a pitcher that is as incomplete of the whole man as the fact that the Cy Young is an arbitrary circle jerk predominated by east coast bias baseball writers who passed over Ryan because he had fewer Wins than other pitchers. You know WINS tell us so much…
Ryan may be overrated, but dude is still quite worthy of being rated.
What's funny about that?
On one hand I used a saber stat that is pretty well respected as a more accurate tool to evaluate a pitcher than “traditional” stats. On the other hand I used the “eye ball” test which concludes that in nearly three decades of pitching Ryan was never once regarded as the best pitcher in his league. If you want to meet in the middle and use ERA- he doesn’t crack the top 75 in that same time span.
I never once said he shouldn’t be rated. I said he is “one for the ages” but he’s still very overrated. Just one dude’s opinion here.
If you're going by no hitters yes...
Otherwise, it’s Koufax. And again, being “unhittable” isn’t as impressive when runners are reaching base. Also sits outside the top 75 WHIP in that span.
Koufax gave up no hits in the 20th season of his career.
And your quote about runners reaching base diminishing the specialness of a pitching style is totally subjective.
If staying healthy is a skill … and it is a tougher skill than to flip for FIP, I’d argue Ryan is in a class by himself and gosh, the stats bear me out. If you want to fixate on walks I get to fixate on longevity, and I can dismiss his “freak” walk numbers and you can dismiss pitching 26 years in the majors.
Inner circle HOF.
It's not just the walk totals I'm referring to...
Of course with over 5,000 innings logged he’s going to be up there in walk totals. But his walk rate is the second worst in that span as well. His walks weren’t just a result of facing so many batters. He was wild. Call it effectively wild, but he was a walk machine.
It's kind of funny that...
the Halos Heaven community has been ripping the front office and Mike Scioscia for ignoring OBP and putting too much emphasis on batting average (to which I completely agree). Yet the defense of Nolan Ryan is that he was so unhittable and people ignore his 4.67 BB/9. WHIP is essentially OBP for a pitcher. Is OBP important or not? If it is (which most of us seem to agree on) then you have to knock Ryan down quite a few pegs despite his incredible low batting average against.
He’s a legend in his own sense. His durability and insane heater made him miss a ton of bats. Overtime that added up to 7 no-nos and a butt load of Ks but to the general consensus is he was one of the best pitchers ever and wasn’t
to pretend that your measuring stick is objective
is a delusion you apparently cannot even grasp.
Look at what he accomplished while being “Effectively Wild” and then look at every other pitcher in the game who was not handicapped by that label. So accomplishing what he did while being “EW” trumps other rate stat champions who fizzled out sooner, struck out fewer but minded their wildness and FIP.
Fair enough
I guess it all depends on what you think is important in measuring a pitcher. If counting strikeouts are the way you want to go then Nolan Ryan is the best ever.
But if you want the guy who did the best overall job at giving up as few runs as possible there are about 75 guys that did that better than he did.
It’s possible to be a legend and still be overrated.
The photo shows just how badly Cruz played that ball.
He: 1) jogged backwards at first, 2) took a circuitous route to the ball, and 3) never aligned himself with the path of the ball (the photo shows him reaching to his left, it wasn’t just over his head).
A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.
Torii Hunter, two years from now would likely have made that catch.
My response to your letter of February 19, 1976, is - kiss my ass.
Sincerely,
Bill Baxley, Attorney General
by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Oct 29, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I see your two years, and I'll raise you three years.
by moralesforpresident on Oct 29, 2011 10:32 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Pfft
Willie Mays would have made that catch…
…today.
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Oct 30, 2011 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Chuck Norris would've made it a basket catch.
With Bill Brasky on his shoulder.
"I'm Tony Reagins. People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks. Years later, a doctor will tell me that I have an I.Q. of 48 and am what some people call mentally retarded."
Yeah, It's Pretty Much on Cruz
For totally botching the ball. He should’ve been ready for it in the no doubles defense, but he was too far in, took a bad route, and then did some sort of matador thing.
I am very happy the Rangers lost because they are our division rivals (which Texas fans should take as as a compliment, becuase it IS one), but Ron Washington looked like sad Charlie Brown for most of that game, and it’s kind of heartbreaking to watch the life go out of that man.
R.I.P. Nick Adenhart - Always an Angel
But nothing that a few lines of after-game cocaine can't cure!
"I'm Tony Reagins. People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks. Years later, a doctor will tell me that I have an I.Q. of 48 and am what some people call mentally retarded."
I heard from someone once that it's a hell of a drug.
My response to your letter of February 19, 1976, is - kiss my ass.
Sincerely,
Bill Baxley, Attorney General
by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Oct 29, 2011 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm Josh Hamilton bitch!
My response to your letter of February 19, 1976, is - kiss my ass.
Sincerely,
Bill Baxley, Attorney General
by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Oct 29, 2011 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions
clever post Rev.....
and I must admit to enjoying a healthy helping of Schadenfreude. Es tat mir gut !
Yes, I had the same thought….We indeed still have that on the Rangers franchise. We have experienced the view from the top of the highest mountain. They have never reached the pinnacle. It is a sweet thought.
by Jack Frostt on Oct 29, 2011 6:16 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
But significantly better World Series stats.
in that he has World Series stats.
Also, his stats in general are about a million times better than Jeff Mathis’.
by Robviously on Oct 29, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
it also helps that he's a better player ...
but i think your sarcasm detector is broken
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Oct 29, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
You know how we have the "no politics" rule here most of the time, and it keeps the peace?
I visited a favorite political blog last night and they should have had a similar rule regarding baseball. It went from loving/hating on one or other of the two teams in the WS last night, straight to how much the Angels are hated by their division rivals and fans of same. I read it with surprise, that our name even came up last night. After the third or fourth one told us how he was an A’s fan living around Rangers fans and how really fond most of the other division rivals are of everyone else, oh it sounded like a real love fest (of course Rangers fans have nothing to fear from Oakland or Seattle so why bother to hate them?) and said “eff the Angels”, I told him that we Angels fans return the sentiment to all of said rivals.
But they really should have a “no baseball” rule at political forums because most of the people have little knowledge of the game.
THIS… IS… ANAHEIM!!
The Angels have been the dominant AL West team
for virtually the entirety of the Web 2.0 era, where blogs, comments sections, and viral video have dominated social discourse. So it’s easier to spread and spew venom during toward the team at the top when you’ve had the social means to do so.
It’s not the Angels they necessarily permanently hate the most…it’s that they were the easiest to hate because of their success during a team when it was the easiest to spread that hate. The A’s of the early 00s or the Rangers/Mariners of the 90s could have easily been subjected to it in our collective consciousness if people had the ease with which to communicate it.
And if the Rangers go on a run of dominance (which two years of winning a weakened division and nothing to show for it is NOT dominance), or the Mariners, or A’s do, and the Angels sink into mediocrity, then the tides of hatred will easily shift.
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Oct 29, 2011 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions
That's what I took away from it.
I don’t hate the A’s or the Mariners, even when the Mariners have given us grief. The fans in Seattle, the ones i’ve met in the stadium, are pretty nice. The two or three turds at Lookout Landing do not really represent what I’ve observed.
And the A’s, I just feel sorry for them and have since we first had Angels season tickets in 1979. The stadium is even worse than it used to be, thanks to Al Davis and the city of Oakland, they have no budget, and there is rarely a decent crowd at their games even when they’re doing well. We lived just south of Oakland for 9 years, 1992 to 2001, and went to a lot of games. We were shocked at the before and after when the Haas family sold the team and La Russa left for Missouri, but pretty soon they put together a team made up of really young guys and it was fun to watch them play.
THIS… IS… ANAHEIM!!
I can't hate on the Rangers like the rest of you here.
They haven’t been good enough for enough years for me to hate them yet like I hate the Yankers, Red Sux or even the A’ss. I wasn’t rooting for either team and wasn’t even watching any playoffs until game 6 when I was bored and just turned the game on for no reason.
Interesting how the Cards got more clutch hits in game 6 than the Angels had all season.
"Ballplayers play baseball. Hrrmmmff." -Jose Mota
I can never root for the Rangers; they are forever tainted by their association with one of the previous owners (dubya).
Yeah, we all kinda got that
You boys stick around--there'll be turkey and ice cream later!
by rspencer on Oct 29, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I don't hate them for that; I feel more sorry for what that group of owners did to the team.
and I can’t understand why they aren’t universally despised for it.
I learned to hate them because of those head-hunter pitchers who were encouraged by Bucky Showalter, and I was initially pleased when Ron Washington got that job. I used to like him but now I despise him, not because of the cocaine but because he did it while he was in our stadium. That really pisses me off.
And Ian Kinsler. When he and Ron are gone, we’ll see if I can get over it.
THIS… IS… ANAHEIM!!
I hate the Rangers because their fans are obnoxious
Hell, they’re just plain noxious, considering all the sick, misanthropic trash talk they’ve spewed our way.
You boys stick around--there'll be turkey and ice cream later!
Also, they're from Texas
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Oct 29, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I hate that state and every team in it
give it back to Mexico as an apology for taking California.
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Oct 29, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
But I love that
Texas (Rangers) ARE toast!
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Oct 29, 2011 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Texas Toast
Somebody’s got to use this as a headline—if they haven’t already.
by Rock Island Line on Oct 29, 2011 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions
A Bosox friend of mine is like this.
He has almost no interest in baseball unless the Red Sox are playing. I wouldn’t call him a baseball fan. (He also throws like a girl, as I unfortunately learned on the softball field.) Sad, really. He’s missing out. And I think you are too.
by Rock Island Line on Oct 29, 2011 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Texas is the new Boston
Texas fans should be calling Boston fans and taking notes. They’re going to need a great deal of advice on how to live with massive heartache from being oh so very close to winning, but to have it snatched away.
One strike away. Twice! And Texas couldn’t seal the deal.
Is Nelson Cruz the Texas equivalent of Bill Buckner? Had he simply hustled and put a bit more effort into that game six fly ball, the parade would probably be in Arlington instead of St. Louis. A defensive blunder that should go down in club history as why you play every play hard. Hell, it should be on training videos for all little leaguers.
Is David Freese Bucky Dent and Aaron Boone rolled in to one? In 50 years, will grandparents tell horror stories about a horrible man called Freese?
Texas has become the Boston of this decade.
Or the Buffalo Bills of the 90s
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Oct 29, 2011 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm a lifelong Buffalo Bills fan
and I’d kill to lose another Super Bowl. The team has been pathetic and irrelevant since 1999. Anything is better than that. Even more heartbreak.
You'd probably also kill
to have won one of those four in the 90s.
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Oct 29, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
If you're considering screwing with time travel
please take it from the Cowboys and leave my Giants out of this, no matter what you think of “wide right.”
:-D
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Oct 29, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I love the "THIS IS A GREAT YEAR TO BE A RANGERS FAN" spin getting played on LSB
you went to the World Series (as favorites, mind you) in 2010 against the Giants and got your asses kicked.
You reloaded, retooled, and got an extra year of experience for a solid young rotation. You traded away pieces of value mid-season to solidify the major weakness in your bullpen.
You were pushing your chips to the middle of the table to win it all this year. You banked on it. You already had W.S. failure on your resume. Repeating the same result as last year isn’t a “great year” to be a Rangers fan, if the result last year was failure. This was the time to take the step forward, not choke even more epically than the year before.
All I can say is L.O.L.
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Oct 29, 2011 9:43 AM PDT reply actions
Losing the World Series DOES equal having a great year.
The only better year you can have is winning the World Series. I hate the Rangers but they did have a great season.
2002 is the only Angels season I absolutely wouldn’t change. I’d trade any other one for a season where we lost the World Series.
Without context, it's a great year
but when your goal, and your supposed ability, equate to world series aspirations, and you are favored once you get there, and have consistent opportunities to win that series, and you fail, who gives a f*** about the rest of the season?
They already have a lost W.S. to their name. They reloaded to do it again. And they lost in worse fashion than the year before. I know only the Yankees EXPECT to win it all every year, but if I were in the Rangers position now, I sure as hell wouldn’t be saying “oh well, great season.” Not with what was so easily at hand, and not having accomplished the exact same result as the year before.
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Oct 29, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Right now I think all they'd be thinking is how close they were.
But once some time passes, I think they’ll just look back on 2011 as a great season. It doesn’t feel that way now (after what happened in the last 48 hours) but they did have a great season.
Honestly, I don't see that happening
no one here talks fondly about what a great year ’86 was for the Angels…or the Red Sox, for that matter.
This will be looked at the same way.
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Oct 29, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I Agree...
I don’t ever look back at ’86 fondly, not when you are ready to celebrate going to the WS only to have Henderson hit the homerun. Its gotta be worse for Ranger fans, not once, but twice they were one strike away from being Champions. It will burn in their soles until it is exorcised with a Championship.
^ this ^
82, 86, 95 were great, GREAT seasons by the Angels… wiped clean by a few heartbreaking INNINGS.
by Rev Halofan on Oct 29, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I do.
Angels fans do talk about how the ‘86 team could have won it all. Are we all still killing ourselves over it? I’m not. It’s just another Division Championship banner in our yard.
Red Sox fans are a different breed. They all seem to think that the Red Sox have the “most _______________ ever” with regard to every aspect of the sport. So their losses are the “MOST HEARTBREAKING EVER.” The Buckner play is special because you rarely see a super slow grounder go through a pro ballplayer’s legs like that in a big moment but the 2011 World Series, as close as it was, doesn’t have any one image that astonishing. Rangers were close but couldn’t put the Cards away.
Every Buffalo fan I know looks fondly on the four Bills teams that lost the Super Bowls, even the one that lost on a field goal that missed by about 2 feet.
I just don’t think losing a World Series or Super Bowl or NBA/NHL Finals hurts a team long term, even if they lost in a dubious fashion.
You're an exception
most Rangers fans, 10 years from now, aren’t going to look back and say “boy, what a great bunch of guys those Rangers were. Sure was a fun ride.” The bulk of them will be saying “HOW THE HELL DID YOU NOT CATCH THAT BALL, CRUZ?”
…and that’s IF they’re thinking about the team at all.
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Oct 29, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I think they're the baseball equivalent of the Buffalo Bills that lost Super Bowl XXV.
They were the favorites and SHOULD HAVE won, but made enough mistakes to blow it. Cruz’s play is the one they’ll lose sleep over. Maybe he’s their Norwood despite the fact that a ton of other stuff happened leading up to that play.
But they did get a second pennant in their ballpark and I don’t know how bitter people will be a few years from now. Maybe some people only look on this season as a good one once they win a World Series and they have some perspective.
I guess we’ll wait and see.
Also
Angels fans do talk about how the ‘86 team could have won it all. Are we all still killing ourselves over it?
In regards to that…a lot of people probably are still pissed about it. I’m not, but because I was BORN in ’86. But more importantly, we have a W.S. title to wash away the pain of the past. And until the Rangers can say likewise, ’11 will be their ’86.
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Oct 29, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Honestly? I doubt they could have beat the Mets.
But, in ’82, on the other hand, had they not choked against the Wallbangers, they probably could have won it all.
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
...
AND THUS, THE WORDS “I DOUBT THEY COULD HAVE BEAT THE METS” WERE SPOKEN FOR THE LAST TIME IN HUMAN HISTORY.
:(
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Oct 29, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Dammit!!! I meant to rec, and hit flag instead.
Rev, or another editor, can you please clear the flag?
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
When JD starts talking a new deal with Nelson
He’ll be using this picture to tell Nelson how much he sucks
Representing the Angels in Sin City.
Ranger fans: welcome to an offseason of "if".
- If Nelson Cruz catches that ball, the Rangers are World Series Champions. Who made an all-out effort on a fly ball just like that? Torii Hunter.
Torii’s catch on a fliner to deep right
Nelson Cruz’s fail on the same type of fliner
- If Endy Chavez had been in right field instead of Cruz.
- If Feliz had thrown the same 2-strike breaking ball to Freese that he used to strike out Allen Craig.
- If Feliz had been out to pitch the bottom of the 10th.
- If Oliver could have been his usual self in the 10th.
- If Beltre wasn’t in so close, he would have caught Lohse’s bunt and turned a double play
- If Beltre throws to home, the runner would have been out and the Cardinals don’t score their 8th run.
- If there is no rain out, Carpenter couldn’t have started and pitched 6 innings of game 7.
- If Matt Holliday doesn’t get hurt , Craig doesn’t hit two crucial home runs and make a home run saving catch.
by Fan Since 1981 on Oct 29, 2011 9:58 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
are you experienced
have you ever been experienced
well…
we have.
by Zaius on Oct 29, 2011 9:59 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Games 6 and 7:
Like ’effing CHRISTMAS!
"If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base." ~Dave Barry
two years in a row is sad
I take it you don't have the DOV Secret Decoder Ring
You need to drink more ovaltine
-Quad Fin Rider
by DAD OF VLAD on Oct 29, 2011 10:04 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Politically I couldn't give a shit, but as a GA pilot, the whole "GW is a moron"meme is getting a little stale Dude.
Do you have any firggin idea of what it takes in terms of intelligence, discipline, balls and all around smarts it takes to learn to fly a Cessna 172? I do.
Now try talking about what it takes to fly multi-million dollar fighter aircraft. My ground-school instructor was an ex-Air Force F-111 jock. He spends his “retirement” racing experimental aircraft at the Reno Air races.
You can argue that GDubs Daddy got him into Harvard, but you’d be hard pressed to make the case that his Daddy was at the controls during supersonic flight.
God needed a starter. RIP #34
by 3rd Echelon on Oct 29, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
It's DOV -- just roll with it!
"I'm Tony Reagins. People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks. Years later, a doctor will tell me that I have an I.Q. of 48 and am what some people call mentally retarded."
Internet fail
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Oct 29, 2011 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Way to go, now you did it...
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All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine.
by Quad Fin Rider on Oct 29, 2011 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
I just died!
Kudos to that puss!
My response to your letter of February 19, 1976, is - kiss my ass.
Sincerely,
Bill Baxley, Attorney General
by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Oct 29, 2011 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions
if you really really really want to piss off people on the internet
insist that medical research reveals that cats cause cancer.
Warning: You will lose friends.
they dont?
I take it you don't have the DOV Secret Decoder Ring
You need to drink more ovaltine
-Quad Fin Rider
by DAD OF VLAD on Oct 30, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
they dont?
I take it you don't have the DOV Secret Decoder Ring
You need to drink more ovaltine
-Quad Fin Rider
by DAD OF VLAD on Oct 30, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
This is incredible
I can’t stop watching it.
by Brody on Oct 30, 2011 6:18 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Cool story, bro.
You know how to fly a plane. Doesn’t change the fact that W actually said that…
Tim Salmon: The once and future Kingfish.
by Teixeira Who? on Oct 30, 2011 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions
I POSTED HIM
becasue he was at a few games and one time owner of the team.
i dont care he knew how to do drugs and fly a plane. not that hard
i do it all the time on Starfox 64
I take it you don't have the DOV Secret Decoder Ring
You need to drink more ovaltine
-Quad Fin Rider
by DAD OF VLAD on Oct 30, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
are you getting dumber
to dream the impossible dream
by Rev Halofan on Oct 30, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
I had to chuckle when I read
…that it supposedly takes “intelligence, discipline, balls” to get a private pilots license. I got my license back in ’96 flying Piper Cherokees out of SMO mostly because I was really bored one summer & had money to burn after paying off my student loans early. I found passing the FAA exam it to be only be slightly harder than passing my DMV drivers test when I was 16. I guess if your world is perfectly flat and you climbed atop a molehill, it must feel like Mt Everest.
All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine.
by Quad Fin Rider on Oct 30, 2011 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh really, so flying is a cake-walk huh?
Nice try dude. Just cause you passed the FAA exams doesn’t mean shit. Are you current? Are you IFR rated? Really, so I guess a monkey could operate a plane safely?
Tell that to the pilot next time you fly.
What is the space between GA pilot and a military aviator?
God needed a starter. RIP #34
by 3rd Echelon on Oct 31, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
"Just cause you passed the FAA exams doesn’t mean shit. "
Which was my whole point, dude, to your douchebaggy boast about needing “intelligence, discipline, balls and all around smarts it takes to learn to fly a Cessna 172” Anybody with a few thousand & some spare time can get a private pilots license. My comment had nothing to do with politics, Bush or being a military aviator and had everything to do with your lame braggadocio. Brag about a real accomplishment sometime and maybe I’ll be impressed.
All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine.
by Quad Fin Rider on Oct 31, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm sorry if you think I was bragging. I wasn't.
Just providing a little backfire for my point of view. Deal with it. As for the whole aviation thing…You can’t be a pilot (at least not anymore). You’re apparent lack of intelligence and attitude tells me that you would not be very safe to fly with. No one should ever get in an aircraft under your control.
Plus there seems be some sort of weird “cult-like” movement taking place here where people are having a knee-jerk reaction and jumping in to defend DOV. He’s a big boy. He can take care of himself. In fact, if you look at his response, he explained clearly the reason for his post of GW. Nice comeback DOV, you’re right, but my sentiment still stands.
VOD is the man. Nothing personal, was just taking a friendly jab at him. I see people do it all the time.
What I really have issue with is your douche-baggy comments about how you took up flying because if it was just something to do between bong rips or something. Just because you pulled it off it was no big deal. You f’ing moron, you just insulted yourself and you don’t even know it.
BTW, Why don’t you drop a line to Chelsea Sullenberger one of these days and let him know that piloting an airplane ain’t no big deal. Not sure if you even knew this, but the vast majority of military aviators become commercials pilots.
Hopefully it will give you something to think about the next time you get on a commercial flight and the flight attendant is reprimanding you for not turning off your iPhone because you were too distracted with the TMZ app.
God needed a starter. RIP #34
by 3rd Echelon on Nov 1, 2011 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd just for the all lulz you provide me
I love it when somebody tries to accuse me of lacking intelligence with a sentence that begins with: “You’re apparent lack of intelligence…”
"
All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine.
by Quad Fin Rider on Nov 1, 2011 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Congrats to the Cardinals
i had the “anyone but the Rangers” approach
but we should NOT wallow in another’s tears, because we did not cause it (compare it to 2009 when we beat the Red Sox, then we can). like it or not, the rangers beat us by getting farther. while we have them beat by winning one championship,. they have two pennants, which by watching Angels in the Outfield may or may not count. waking up today, there are 29 losers, and one winner.
but i can’t wait until February 14…the unofficial date for pitchers and catchers.
I would rather have been an Angels fan than a Ranger fan this year..
Ordinarily, I would rather make the playoffs and deal with the heartbreak of defeat, but not in this case. I have replayed game 6 in my head as if it were Walden missing over the plate with a 1-2 count and Torii botching the ball in RF… Imagined the Halos being 1 strike away two different times and melting down.. I would need to be talked off the ledge.
Did the Rangers beat us this year? Sure, but this is the rare circumstance that I would have rather missed the playoffs than gone to the World Series.
by BigGame48 on Oct 29, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
This ^
I’d rather miss the postseason while producing above expectations in the regular season and have hope for the future than to have been thoroughly humiliated by epic choking in the World Series with my ace in his walk year.
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Oct 29, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
The one advantage we have right now is that we don't have expectations.
People think we’re a crap team. I think we are one or two players away.
And I think we’ve just seen the best of the Texas Rangers.
by moralesforpresident on Oct 29, 2011 10:51 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
x2
By the way, people talk about how incredible the Cardinals comeback was in Game 6.
Did anyone mention the EPIC comeback by the Angels in Game 6 in 2002?
True, the Halos weren’t down to their last strike (TWICE) and didn’t rally from a deficit FIVE times, or didn’t have a walk-off (Man, if I were a Ranger, I’d have gone on top of the Arch and thought about taking a jump).
But the Angels did rally from a 5-run deficit with 8 outs left AFTER the starter got the game ball (classy move, Dusty).
"And the Anaheim Angels are the Champions of Baseball!"
I'm the other way.
I still wish the Angels had more than one World Series appearance, even if it’s only a loss to go along with the 2002 win.
I also think we have a lot of young players who would benefit from the postseason experience.
Other than 2002, I’d trade any Angels season for one where we made the World Series and lost. And I know I’d be beside myself right now if they lost the way the Rangers did but in the back of my mind, I still know that’s better than missing the playoffs.
ironically 2002 was the year
when we had a total of ONE player on the roster (Kevin Appier) with postseason experience.
One of the best things about the Rangers losing the World Series.
Is that we don’t have to hear about Napoli for another five months. Wo hoo!
The 2011 Angels, the biggest cocktease ever.
by Angelsrthebest101 on Oct 29, 2011 10:56 AM PDT reply actions
Maybe not in the national media
but the Napoli-Mathis-Wells palaver will still be thriving on HH
All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine.
by Quad Fin Rider on Oct 29, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
I'd like to laugh at the Rangers
But they’re still better than us.
Here’s hoping Jerry DiPoto gives us a real reason to be happy next Fall.
by Robviously on Oct 29, 2011 11:10 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Better doesnt matter
They didn’t win the world series and neither did the Angels or the Royals or the Astros, etc. If you’re not first, you’re last.
We needed that loss last night, keeps their bandwagon from filling up and all the money that comes along with it.
by Wytelitning on Oct 29, 2011 11:37 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Better does matter.
Because as long as they’re better, they’re blocking our path to the World Series.
Also, their bandwagon is growing regardless of what happened last night. And they have an ton of money coming with their new TV contract regardless of what happened last night.
Last night’s outcome doesn’t help the Angels one way or another. The Angels need to make themselves better.
They "were" better
Its a new season and our records are even, so no it doesn’t matter. They didn’t win a championship and neither did we.
They may have some new fans, but a bandwagon needs championships. Last night was as crucial for them as 2002 was for us.
by Wytelitning on Oct 29, 2011 8:30 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
So, the question is...
Which is more embarassing sad?
Crawford missed catch or Nelson missed catch?
Representing the Angels in Sin City.
I'm gonna go with crawford
and change “sad” to “hilarious”
"id take 5th Dimention Wormhole Rivera over Wells any day of the week"
-clover_black
by the king of CERA on Oct 29, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey Joe B**k, what happened to "The Wash??"
What happened to that global dance sensation called “The Wash?”
Hey, hey everybody look at this black man that likes to jump around in the dugout. Isn’t it cool everybody!? We can build a whole shtick around it. Merchandising here we come!
Don’t look at Tony LaRoussa, he’s boring. He just stands there. White guys can’t dance anyway.
God needed a starter. RIP #34
Wash isn't a great coach.
Daniels is making him look good.
by moralesforpresident on Oct 29, 2011 10:46 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Lyle Spencer just asked Dipoto if he's "old school or new school"
Dipoto said he likes to stay balanced.
F*** Lyle Spencer.
Years later, Clutch still needs to chill.
The Payoff Pitch Blog
by cardinalwraith on Oct 29, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I really want someone to ask him about Mathis.
He’ll punt the question of course, but it’ll let him know that it’s something people out there are wondering.
Years later, Clutch still needs to chill.
The Payoff Pitch Blog
by cardinalwraith on Oct 29, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Mathis is definitely the elephant in the room.
Napoli's 27th, 28th, 29th and 30th homers of the year (four more than Jeff Mathis' career total) rained down on Angel Stadium like knives from the ceiling.
I'd pay good money
for every reporter from here on out to repeatedly ask Dipoto what he plans to do with Jeff Mathis.
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Oct 29, 2011 12:21 PM PDT reply actions
Wow, this is awkward.
They’re asking straight up about Mike Scioscia’s influence in the org and whether it’ll be a problem. And the Soth is sitting right next to Jerry.
Years later, Clutch still needs to chill.
The Payoff Pitch Blog
by cardinalwraith on Oct 29, 2011 12:21 PM PDT reply actions
I'm rather enjoying that
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Oct 29, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Dipoto just said he wants hitters who know how to work counts
holy shit, please tell me Mickey Hatcher is getting axed then?
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Oct 29, 2011 12:23 PM PDT reply actions
Huh?
Firing Hatcher would change the philosophy (at least at the pro level) of how hitters approach their at-bats. You think firing Hatcher would have no impact on how younger players end up being instructed when they reach the big league team?
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Oct 29, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Agree.
If the best you can say about Hatcher is that “he’s probably not responsible for happens on the field”, then it’s time to try someone new.
He’s been our hitting instructor for 12 seasons and the Angels have had a mediocre or worse offense for most of those seasons (despite a large payroll). Time to give someone else a shot.
When the Angels actually bring up some young players who learned how to take walks in the minors
Then maybe we can debate Hatcher. Look, I have no interest in defending the guy. He can be fired or not fired for all I care. He’s just not important enough to get excited over.
Isn't a hitting coach's responsiblity to correct those problems?
I’m not expecting 100 walks a year from each guy, but a hitting coach’s job isn’t just to emphasize the strengths and ignore the weaknesses of the hitters he gets…and no one has improved in their OBP skill at the MLB level under Hatcher. Guys like Napoli and Kotchman arguably got worse with the club.
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Oct 29, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Napoli posted a below-average walk rate in only one season
Kotchman got on base just fine except for his partial season in 2008. That’s not a lot to go on. We’ll never be able to separate Hatcher’s influence from the normal booms and busts in player performance—or Hatcher’s influence from Scioscia’s, for that matter.
Meanwhile, Figgins’ walk rate started at 7.4% in 2003, then climbed to 7.7%, 8.9%, 9.5%, 10.1%, 11.9%, and finally 13.9% before he left in 2009. So it’s not true that no young player’s walk rate has ever improved during the Hatcher era. His OBP has plummeted since then—if you want to blame Hatcher for Kotchman and Napoli, then you’d also have to credit him for Figgins.
It's not about "below average" for Napoli
in his minor career, he walked in 14.7% of his plate appearances. Then, for the Angels:
2006: 15.7%
2007: 12.5%
2008: 12.8%
2009: 9.3%
2010: 8.2%
In his first year with the Rangers? 13.4%.
Kotchman’s walk rate in the majors with the Angels was 7.9% In the minors, it was 10.7%, and with all other teams since it’s been 9.1%.
As for Figgins? Well, he was at 9.7% for his career in the minors, and 10.1% in the majors (with the Angels). A (modest) improvement to be sure, but hardly a statistical outlier that suggests much contribution from Hatcher.
And Wood walked 2.6% of the time in the Majors, and 8.8% in the minors. Granted he was f***ed in about a thousand other ways, but that kind of minor league walk rate is hardly unmanageable at the MLB level. His hitting coach certainly did make it any better.
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Oct 29, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Wouldn't you expect a player's walk rate
Like the rest of their stats, to be at least somewhat better in the minors?
by Brody on Oct 30, 2011 6:25 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Somewhat, yes
but of course, not always. As power develops at the big league level, better hitters are more apt to see fewer pitches to hit…toward the prime of their career, their stats would likely start to trend toward their minor league numbers.
But Napoli’s drop-off is rather staggering, as is Wood’s. Kotchman’s is notable to be sure, but moreso because it improved when he left the team.
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Oct 30, 2011 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree Sub.
The stRangers still rip the cover off the ball long after the patron saint of hitting Rudy Jaramillo left the team to go waste away in Chicago. “It’s the hitters stupid,” not the hitting coach.
My response to your letter of February 19, 1976, is - kiss my ass.
Sincerely,
Bill Baxley, Attorney General
by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Oct 29, 2011 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Except that the coaching pjhilosophy on the MLB club
are the walking orders given to the minor league coaching staffs and used to drill the up and comers.
In other words…Hatcher’s approach is what is taught in the minors.
"I am become Death, Destroyer of cERA" - Oppenheimer FTW!
Color me impressed.
I liked that he and Mike didn’t shrink from the tough question. As the press conference went on he seemed to show a strong level of confidence. Consider me optimistic.
Nice write up
I’m glad the Rangers lost for a variety of reasons. Ian Kinsler being one of them. Keeping a division rival at 0 is another.
My primary reason is to avoid a bandwagon situation even 1/100000000th of what happend with the Sux. True, ESPN isn’t located down the pike from Arlington and I doubt they would dub a “Ranger Nation,” but one group of drunken douchebags is all baseball can handle. I can’t support anything which may in any way contribute to even the possibility of a second.
World Series or Bust.
Bust.
by moralesforpresident on Oct 29, 2011 10:42 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Taxas Rangers 2011 = California Angels 1986...squared.
"I am become Death, Destroyer of cERA" - Oppenheimer FTW!
The space between 1 and zero is an illusion.
The space between 1 and zero is exactly the same as the space between negative infinity and positive infinity.
The set [0,1] has the same cardinality [-∞, +∞], to whit, aleph-1.
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
you are talking the abstraction of numbers
I am talking the reality of finger in Texas with no ring
by Rev Halofan on Oct 31, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
If you look at it in a philosophical light, I'm more or less agreeing with you.
I’m saying that the distance between them having a ring and not having a ring is infinite, and that any other answer is an illusion.
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
by red floyd on Oct 31, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
1 strike away, 2 different times
It’s epic fail. (as bad as or worse than Bill Buckner).
And that puts our 1986 that much farther into the rear view mirror.
(And i’m talking about national media & national fans.)
Bosux this year does the same magic for our 1995.
I wish good things for Naps – but other than that, this W.S. couldn’t have gone more perfectly!
Tough thing to get past as a fan...
It still hurts a little when I think back 82’, 86’ & 95’ seasons along with playoff series losses in 00’s. Taking joy in someone else’s pain seems pretty unappealing to me at least. Ryan was a GREAT Angel in an era when there wasn’t much to be excited about. I still have the glove he signed for me a kid in 73 and I still remember that he took the time to ask me a about my team and what position I played. He was class act then and I’ve seen him do nothing that should alter my opinion since he joined the Rangers.
Very well put.
I thought this was the best postseason without the Angels being in it.
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