Reds fans discuss trade with us

Reds fans banter about sending us an awesome package and rock out to Prince too

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I think I would give up Walden for Hannigan...

seems fair to me

go long with extenze...i do

by angelsownredsux on Nov 23, 2011 5:31 PM PST reply actions

Tony Reagins Special!

by YouthofToday on Nov 23, 2011 6:24 PM PST up reply actions

not at all...

remember Walden is a reliever

go long with extenze...i do

by angelsownredsux on Nov 24, 2011 12:31 AM PST up reply actions

i think that i would want more than just Hannigan for an All-Star closer who is dirt cheap

In 2012, celebrating the 10th Anniversary of the Angel's First World Championship

by tanana40 on Nov 23, 2011 8:32 PM PST up reply actions

If you were the Player formerly known as the Del Taco Ninja

by Bozo's1000son on Nov 23, 2011 6:14 PM PST reply actions

Make them throw in Joey Votto and we got a deal

by Bozo's1000son on Nov 23, 2011 6:16 PM PST reply actions

Wait is this THE Jesse Heiman?

Jerry Dipoto, Vampire Killer

by ryanfea on Nov 23, 2011 6:21 PM PST reply actions

Is this the guy who appears in backgrounds in movies

Representing the Angels in Sin City.

by maze88 on Nov 23, 2011 8:53 PM PST via mobile up reply actions

Yes

I am the Worlds Greatest Extra and also the guy who last year suggested we resign eckstein, my bad

by Jesse Heiman on Nov 23, 2011 9:40 PM PST up reply actions

I thought he was banned!

Should change my screen name to Stuck with Premium.

by stuck in Romania on Nov 24, 2011 12:03 PM PST up reply actions

I was hoping for some insight...

….but 75% of the comments are about food. Fly over country……. I understand Lebron now.

by cuscus85 on Nov 23, 2011 6:21 PM PST reply actions

I like food, food is good.

by Wytelitning on Nov 23, 2011 6:28 PM PST via mobile up reply actions

Teenage girls

with ketchup too! Get outtah my way or I’ll eat you!

by dmhead on Nov 23, 2011 9:09 PM PST up reply actions

While I like the prospect I just don’t see how he is a good fit.
1. Alonso, Trumbo, Cron and Kendrys can’t play 3B.
2. We have a glut of corner OF options as is (Hunter, Too Blessed To Be Stressed, Trout, Abreu).

Alonso only makes sense if the team thinks he is a 2 WAR+ upgrade over Trumbo. Trumbo only has 1 more year of service time, so this wouldn’t factor into the decision.

Also, considering our farm system is in desperate need of repair, I would rather sign Ramon Hernandez than trade for Hanigan despite Hanigan’s club friendly contract and being the superior, and younger, player.

by YouthofToday on Nov 23, 2011 6:29 PM PST reply actions

How do you figure Trumbo only has one more year of service time?

Willits? Check. Reagins? Check. Waiting on Mathis

by hauldog on Nov 24, 2011 10:43 AM PST up reply actions

Maybe he meant he's accrued 1 more year of service time

by BigGame48 on Nov 25, 2011 1:27 PM PST up reply actions

Bingo. Apologies for not making the point obvious enough.

by YouthofToday on Nov 25, 2011 1:37 PM PST up reply actions

Those guys are weird

But I want Votto though.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

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by SportsChicken on Nov 23, 2011 6:30 PM PST reply actions

What would we want for Santana?

Maybe Bill Bray, Hanigan and and prospects?

Dorthy Mantooth is a saint, A SAINT!!!!

by gitchogritchoffmypetis on Nov 23, 2011 6:32 PM PST reply actions

Bray

Is a middling prospect who averages 91 on his FB who has two years of arbitration left before FA. Total pass.

Unless we could pick up Grandal or Mesoraco I don’t see a trade working out that wouldn’t admit the team was rebuilding.

by YouthofToday on Nov 23, 2011 6:40 PM PST up reply actions

Bill Brasky?

If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?

by red floyd on Nov 23, 2011 9:43 PM PST up reply actions

Bill Brasky is a son of a bitch!

And a pretty decent Double A pitching prospect.

Your Angels: Telling Pythagoras to go to hell since 2004.

by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Nov 23, 2011 10:00 PM PST up reply actions

Crazy trade ideas.

Trout, Santana, and Trumbo

for

Votto and Hanigan

by Turks Teeth on Nov 23, 2011 7:11 PM PST reply actions

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

by Howie the Halo on Nov 23, 2011 7:46 PM PST up reply actions

Flag'd

Trout for Votto and Hanigan is still a fleecing in the Red’s favor.

So I have this rock in the back yard that does nothing but sit there so I named it Juan Rivera.

by hobbit_86 on Nov 23, 2011 8:03 PM PST up reply actions

I think you missed the operative word "crazy" in Turk's post

All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine.

by Quad Fin Rider on Nov 23, 2011 8:11 PM PST up reply actions

Nonetheless, I still think it's crazy that fans EXPECT Trout to be better than Votto.

That’s loop-de-loop, over-the-moon crazy.

Recent top Angels prospects by their BA Prospect rating:

Mike Trout
Brandon Wood
Casey Kotchman
Dallas McPherson
Howie Kendrick
Jeff Mathis

All top-25 prospects pan out and should never be traded, and Trout, who profiles like a righthanded Grady Sizemore if he meets his power potential, is already more valuable than MVP Joey Votto.

That’s where a lot of fans are right now. Sorrow is our junk, hope our pope.

by Turks Teeth on Nov 24, 2011 8:40 AM PST up reply actions

Weird -- my post was reformatted automagically.

(#2) Mike Trout
(#3) Brandon Wood
(#6) Casey Kotchman
(#12) Dallas McPherson
(#12) Howie Kendrick
(#22) Jeff Mathis

by Turks Teeth on Nov 24, 2011 8:42 AM PST up reply actions

Considering their MLB Service Times

Trout is far, FAR more valuable than Votto. Quite frankly I don’t see how their is even a debate. Even if Trout “only” averages a .330 woba during his years of club control (Bill James projects a ridiculous .374 woba for Trout in 2012) his defense at CF more than compensates.

Trout for Votto would make the Wells for Napoli trade look acceptable in comparison.

by YouthofToday on Nov 25, 2011 1:41 PM PST up reply actions

I don't agree

While I wouldn’t pull the trigger on the trade, Trout hasn’t proven anything yet (although he still has plenty of time to learn from Mickey). Votto is a former MVP, bats lefthanded, and is still in his prime. Trout may be more valuable, but I think it’s much closer than you give credit for.

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." - Woody Hayes

by johnnyangel101 on Nov 26, 2011 8:56 AM PST up reply actions

If we are being crazy then how about Kendrick and Abreu and Van Mil for Hanigan, Phillips and a prospect

Votto is untouchable but they Are having negotiating issues with BP and we can tell em Van Mil is just like chapman but taller

by Jesse Heiman on Nov 24, 2011 10:33 AM PST up reply actions

We left Van Mil Off the 40 Man

I doubt he has much, if any, trade value as such.

by YouthofToday on Nov 25, 2011 1:41 PM PST up reply actions

well when we traded for him he was worth a month and a half of fuentes, so that should have told us something about his value

by Balls and Strikes on Nov 26, 2011 10:30 AM PST up reply actions

Votto has mental health issues

He also has been rumored to be sitting on the side of a highway with a sign that reads “Toronto or bust.”

Willits? Check. Reagins? Check. Waiting on Mathis

by hauldog on Nov 24, 2011 10:45 AM PST up reply actions

Remember: the NEW Halo strategy is "Arbitrage."

Not the old mantra of “hey lets get fleeced by the 29 other teams”

by Bozo's1000son on Nov 23, 2011 8:12 PM PST reply actions

Hey, Reds!

Give us yer stuff!!!

Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.

by Commander_Nate on Nov 23, 2011 8:16 PM PST reply actions

Mike Scioscia for the truth about JFK.

by Halowitz on Nov 23, 2011 8:45 PM PST via mobile reply actions 1 recs

Sounds like he could be had

I wouldn’t want to trade Haren or Santana for him, though.

by JeffJoiner on Nov 23, 2011 9:04 PM PST reply actions

chihuahua piss?

Please, show some respect and intellect and call it what it is

….Coors

Well, come see a fat old man some time!

by Moondoggy on Nov 23, 2011 9:35 PM PST reply actions 2 recs

Your mistaken

Cooors = Horse Piss

Rolling Rock = A+

I take it you don't have the DOV Secret Decoder Ring
You need to drink more ovaltine
-Quad Fin Rider

by DAD OF VLAD on Nov 23, 2011 9:50 PM PST up reply actions

point taken

Well, come see a fat old man some time!

by Moondoggy on Nov 23, 2011 9:55 PM PST up reply actions

Don't forget

Heineken = Bong Water

by BigGame48 on Nov 24, 2011 9:18 AM PST up reply actions

Do they have a third base prospect ready for the Game.

by mustang6944 on Nov 23, 2011 10:10 PM PST reply actions

Scott Rolen!

Your Angels: Telling Pythagoras to go to hell since 2004.

by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Nov 23, 2011 10:15 PM PST up reply actions

Just sign Hernandez and be done with it

Let Hernandez mentor Conger and split catching duties in 2012. Hope that Conger is ready to start in 2013.

It makes no sense to trade prospects unless Dipoto envisions Hanigan as the starting catcher for at least two or three seasons.

From Jeff Mathis' TOPPS card: "Jeff is a defensive catcher, but he can rake it when it counts." Jeff has a lifetime .199 MLB batting average

by mustard_man on Nov 24, 2011 4:53 AM PST reply actions 1 recs

Aces

But can Hernandez catch aces? I thought there was only one mere mortal on this planet who can manage such a feat!

by YouthofToday on Nov 25, 2011 1:42 PM PST up reply actions

There is indeed only one example of immortal premiumosity!

Your Angels: Telling Pythagoras to go to hell since 2004.

by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Nov 25, 2011 2:03 PM PST up reply actions

How do we know Conger isn't ready?

Hank was never given the opportunity to show if he is ready or not for a full-time gig behind the plate. I think we all know if Hernandez is brought in, Hank will not be given the opportunity again next season.

by Howie the Halo on Nov 25, 2011 8:48 PM PST up reply actions

why not Posada?

If we are gonna sign a vet to teach conger

by Jesse Heiman on Nov 24, 2011 10:37 AM PST reply actions

Posada sucks and can't field

Jerry Dipoto, Vampire Killer

by ryanfea on Nov 24, 2011 11:41 AM PST up reply actions

And he smells of elderberries

I see red people

by The Limey on Nov 24, 2011 12:56 PM PST up reply actions

Now go away, or I shall taunt you a second time!

If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?

by red floyd on Nov 24, 2011 12:59 PM PST up reply actions

That screen cap is from the computer game.

Awesome.

by Halowitz on Nov 24, 2011 1:34 PM PST via mobile up reply actions

I just hit Google Images

If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?

by red floyd on Nov 24, 2011 7:10 PM PST up reply actions

DH

Designated Hanigan coach

by Jesse Heiman on Nov 24, 2011 11:48 AM PST reply actions

Cocaine is a hell of a drug

That is all I have to say about the trade proposals over there.

Haren? Really.

Willits? Check. Reagins? Check. Waiting on Mathis

by hauldog on Nov 24, 2011 12:37 PM PST reply actions

Just sign Ramon Hernandez. Dump Mathis. No need to trade for Hanigan.

Willits? Check. Reagins? Check. Waiting on Mathis

by hauldog on Nov 25, 2011 1:07 PM PST reply actions

+1

Conger still may be the catcher of the future for us. Why trade for another young catcher unless there is no confidence in him/Conger? Hernandez seems like the better option as all he will cost is cash.

Life is short, enjoy the ride.

by The Mikay on Nov 25, 2011 2:26 PM PST up reply actions

I agree ....

it makes it seem that we have given up on King Conger. Signing Harnandez (to replace Mathis) makes sense.

If we have given up on Hank, I wouldn’t mind trading Bell or Reckling for Haningan or Mesoraco. It appears to be dealing from each of our strengths.

The big three are obviously close to untouchable. I don’t see other trades working out, because they don’t fill a need for us.

by Barca on Nov 25, 2011 3:38 PM PST up reply actions

You're just as nuts as they are

To believe Bell or Reckling would land Mesoraco. Mesoraco is an excellent prospect that would require a package with a starting point of Santana.

by Howie the Halo on Nov 25, 2011 8:53 PM PST up reply actions

I agree that Bell or Reckling is too little, but Santana is too much

But he would require at least 2 good, high level prospects – Ariel Pena and one of Bell/Richards/Chatwood. Maybe throw in Reckling since he might need a change of scenery.

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." - Woody Hayes

by johnnyangel101 on Nov 26, 2011 9:05 AM PST up reply actions