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So glad they signed Jerome!

I think he deserves a shot after his performance last year.

Tim Salmon: The once and future Kingfish.

by Teixeira Who? on Dec 12, 2011 3:11 PM PST reply actions  

Def. happy about Williams being signed.

Looking for them to focus on signing those guys that are arb. eligible now

by MoralesHomers on Dec 12, 2011 3:12 PM PST reply actions  

Time for Dipoto to use his JeDi powers

Cassevah, Callaspo, Trumbo, Jerome Williams for Hanley and Josh Johnson.

Those are the droids you’re looking for, Miami.

by stevefinleyallstars on Dec 12, 2011 3:13 PM PST reply actions  

Nice to sign Jerome

He’s such a good story and pitched well last year. He could end up being a great pick from the scrap heap and really help this club.

by JeffJoiner on Dec 12, 2011 3:22 PM PST reply actions  

Good for Jerome.

But I wonder how long the magic will last. At least there is little pressure on his spot in the rotation.

by UCIHalo on Dec 12, 2011 3:36 PM PST reply actions  

Trading For Hanley

Definitely sounds interesting…Maybe an Erick Aybar, Ervin Santana, and prospects package could work? Don’t want to give up Howie though and I bet the Marlins will only want Mike Trout.

by Halofan1043 on Dec 12, 2011 3:49 PM PST reply actions  

Marlins just signed Jose Reyes

So I don’t think they’d want Aybar. Hanley would be a great addition, but we’re going to have to give up somebody. (Probably Santana or Howie)

by linkbruin on Dec 12, 2011 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

If you mean Headley, then yes

I don’t see Hanley being worth the attitude and money.

by JeffJoiner on Dec 12, 2011 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Hanley

This would have to be a 3 team trade because the Marlins don’t want Aybar but we still have to move him in order to make room for Hanley.

It could happen but we would be left without a 3rd baseman.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

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by SportsChicken on Dec 12, 2011 8:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Wonderful :D

"Stay loyal to the Angels. As for me, I'm jumping on the Nationals bandwagon, later." -Daniel Sirca

by migfig on Dec 12, 2011 4:08 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

I would definitely try to get Ramirez. His trade value is not as high as it used to be. Not his best season this year, hurt shoulder. I would try the only thing would be where to put him. Aybar is a GG SS so I don’t know. Only reason why I’d try to get him is cause his bat…tell me that would not be a nice addition!

"Stay loyal to the Angels. As for me, I'm jumping on the Nationals bandwagon, later." -Daniel Sirca

by migfig on Dec 12, 2011 4:28 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

3 way trade

Brewers need to upgrade at 1B and SS.
Marlins need a 3B and want more SP.

Aybar, Trumbo, and Volstad to the Brewers
Randy Wolf and Casey McGhee to the Marlins
Hanley to the Angels.

by lightupthehalo29 on Dec 12, 2011 4:34 PM PST reply actions  

Trumbo hit 29 home runs.

With Morales still a big question mark and Pujols playing 1B, Trumbo is the perfect choice for DH. Don’t trade him!

A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.

by angelslogic on Dec 12, 2011 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Abreu?

go long with extenze...i do

by angelsownredsux on Dec 12, 2011 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Abreu has negative trade value

Unless the Angels eat a large chunk of the salary.

I have lots of secret weapons! -- Voodoo

by WasianCU on Dec 12, 2011 5:13 PM PST up reply actions  

this is what I meant

I think people are unaware that Trumbo and Abreu had equal oWAR in 2011(both 1.8). So either would be a suitable DH. But unlike Abreu, Trumbo has more trade value because of his youth, affordability, and defense(with respect to Abreu).

go long with extenze...i do

by angelsownredsux on Dec 12, 2011 7:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I could probably jump on this train…

"Stay loyal to the Angels. As for me, I'm jumping on the Nationals bandwagon, later." -Daniel Sirca

by migfig on Dec 12, 2011 4:40 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

it seems light from the Marlins perspective. Also...

the Brewers just signed Aramis Ramirez and they have Mat Gamel who they seem confident in

go long with extenze...i do

by angelsownredsux on Dec 12, 2011 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

That return would be abysmal for the Marlins

Wolf and McGehee…not a chance that gets it done for them.

Defending maligned chants since 2009

by Gorbachav5 on Dec 12, 2011 5:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Looks like the Brewers win that trade

And the Marlins get ******.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

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by SportsChicken on Dec 12, 2011 8:24 PM PST up reply actions  

MLB Hot Stove

Is comparing Pujols to Griffey…NO

"Stay loyal to the Angels. As for me, I'm jumping on the Nationals bandwagon, later." -Daniel Sirca

by migfig on Dec 12, 2011 4:39 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

*clubhouse confidential

"Stay loyal to the Angels. As for me, I'm jumping on the Nationals bandwagon, later." -Daniel Sirca

by migfig on Dec 12, 2011 4:40 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

The best part about Jerome is that he's cheap and

…well, he’s also cheap. Did I mention that he was cheap?

All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine.

by Quad Fin Rider on Dec 12, 2011 4:45 PM PST reply actions  

I love this

I love that it keeps Garret Richards in AAA, call him up in the even of an injury, dont let him get ruined by bad starts when hes too young…… His time will come if Williams pulls a pineiro on us…..

When I flip a coin I dont say heads or tails, I say Halos or Spurs

by ItCouldHappen on Dec 12, 2011 5:05 PM PST reply actions  

Although

I wouldnt have minded signing Mel Clark to a 1 year contract to be our fifth starter….. maybe we can sign him to a one pitch contract in the playoffs, I hear hes got one pitch left

When I flip a coin I dont say heads or tails, I say Halos or Spurs

by ItCouldHappen on Dec 12, 2011 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

He's just gotta

believe.

Great movie

Bring on 2012!

by sluggerdave1 on Dec 12, 2011 6:22 PM PST up reply actions  

His arm is gone.

Pitched on too many pain pills. Plus he’s going to die in the middle of his contract.

by Halowitz on Dec 13, 2011 12:10 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I hope Richards makes the team even if its in the bullpen

I can’t prove it but I feel like SLC has a negative effect on our pitchers development.

go long with extenze...i do

by angelsownredsux on Dec 12, 2011 7:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I like Richards alot

But as long as Cassevah performs as a long reliever and we have hawkins, downs and walden i cant see a place for richards in our BP and I would rather him pitching that sitting in our BP

When I flip a coin I dont say heads or tails, I say Halos or Spurs

by ItCouldHappen on Dec 12, 2011 8:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Joe Saunders anyone?

I just read Saunders was non tendered by the Dbacks.

by MiHaloFan on Dec 12, 2011 5:51 PM PST reply actions  

@Ken_RosenthalKen Rosenthal

Source: #Diamondbacks will non-tender Saunders, Owings. Will try to re-sign both. Saunders, though, could have robust market. #MLB

26 minutes ago via Twitter for Mac

by MiHaloFan on Dec 12, 2011 5:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe, if we did not have a lefty. But CJ filled that bill.

So I’ll stick with Williams. Oh, and did you hear? He is cheap.

A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.

by angelslogic on Dec 12, 2011 5:53 PM PST up reply actions  

5th starter

There is always room for another lefty. hopefully Jerome Williams will work out.

by mbayushi on Dec 12, 2011 7:56 PM PST up reply actions  

They officially just tendered Morales

They just might have someone batting behind Albert. Hopefully he’s healthy. Hunter batting 4th worries me.

http://twitter.com/#!/MikeDiGiovanna/status/146395915463311360

by Theren86n02 on Dec 12, 2011 5:55 PM PST reply actions  

love this move.. morales can be an MVP type player....

the only good thing about Trumbo is that he’s cheap and has power but his OBP stinks.

by Frank158369 on Dec 12, 2011 6:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Source?

Who do you think you are? Are you sure there’s no “mystery team” involved in those talks? Hurry! Go ask your anonymous source and get back to us!

Faith Focus Finish

by b0rd3rline on Dec 12, 2011 7:55 PM PST up reply actions  

skeptial is one thing

but you never know who might be posting around here…

by Rev Halofan on Dec 12, 2011 8:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Duh, I know that Rev.

Just giving Frank158369 a hard time.

Faith Focus Finish

by b0rd3rline on Dec 13, 2011 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

That would be nice

Does this mean Segura/Amarista will be traded?

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

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by SportsChicken on Dec 12, 2011 8:26 PM PST up reply actions  

and she's kinda hot

When I flip a coin I dont say heads or tails, I say Halos or Spurs

by ItCouldHappen on Dec 12, 2011 7:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t call her crazy.
She pissed that the people of St. Louis are burning Albert’s former belongings. They seem like the crazies to me.

by Barca on Dec 13, 2011 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Williams has bee absolutely insane in the winter league so far this year, I'm insanely glad we locked him up for this year

Bill Plunkett

Between indy ball, PCL, #Angels, VZ winter ball, Jerome Williams was 22-2 w/ 3.10 ERA in 206 1/3 IP in calendar yr 2011. Only losses in SLC


Tom DeCenso
J. Williams, 2011: 6 GS w/ #angels; 2.31 era (4-0, 39ip-10er, 1.154whip)…5-0 w/ 1.00 era in six GS in WIN-VZ…3.91era & 1.2whip in aaa.

I’d say Mr. Williams has more than earned the 5th starter spot for now.

by Evan Gillette on Dec 12, 2011 8:52 PM PST reply actions  

Haha

if y’all acquired Hanley…. sheesh.

Anyway, thanks for taking Pujols out of the NL Central, much appreciated.

Any info on what the Angels may do with Morales? The Pirates could use a first baseman and Kendry seems like a candidate that’s as good as any. Any clue as to what the Angels would be looking for in return?

by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Dec 12, 2011 11:14 PM PST reply actions  

I doubt the pirates value Morales as highly as they would Trumbo

what did you have in mind for a trade?

go long with extenze...i do

by angelsownredsux on Dec 12, 2011 11:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not sure

No offense, but Trumbo’s BB:K rate makes me cringe. I’d be fairly upset if the Pirates gave up much for him.

On Morales, he has 2 years of control left, but the injury history.. Kyle McPherson and a C/C+ prospect, like Dan Grovatt or Andrew Maggi? That may be a bit low. Not sure. Hard to gauge Morales’s value.

by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Dec 13, 2011 12:26 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't see the Angels receiving fair value for Morales...

so I can’t think of a reasonable trade offer for him. What 2012 spects would you trade if this were the 2010 offseason?

go long with extenze...i do

by angelsownredsux on Dec 13, 2011 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

That slightly confuses me

Are you asking me what I would trade out of prospects this year for a pre-injury Morales?

If he still only has 2 years of control, I’d probably give Robbie Grossman, Jeff Locke, and Brock Holt maybe. That’s two top 10 prospects and a top 30 guy with some upside since he can play up the middle.

by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Dec 13, 2011 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

yes pre injury Morales

interesting offer but I think I would rather maintain Morales and his two years of control in that scenario

go long with extenze...i do

by angelsownredsux on Dec 13, 2011 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Ya

it would probably take a bit more.

Grossman, Locke, and Colton Cain? Cain’s a top 15 guy with upside. 7 figure bonus coming out of high school. Could be a #2 starter if things come together.

by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Dec 13, 2011 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

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