Wednesday Halolinks: Angels Still Searching For Relief, and Oswalt?
by WiHaloFan on Dec 21, 2011 6:21 AM PST
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Four teams wooing Francisco Cordero - Yahoo! Sports. "Three of those teams, the site notes, are the Boston Red Sox, Los Angeles Angels, and Cincinnati Reds." Once again, or should I say, as with every deal...if the price is right.
How Much Is One Year Of Roy Oswalt Worth? - Baseball Nation. "Interest in Roy Oswalt has picked up now that he has told clubs he only wants a 1-year deal."
What's next for Jerry Dipoto, Angels? - ESPN Los Angeles. What's next? See above.
Rany Jazayerli on how major league teams overvalue prospects - Grantland. "Once a upon a time, teams got great value by trading for minor league studs. Not anymore." Sort of interesting.
Writer Bill Conlin accused of child molestation - CBSSports.com. "Long-time Philadelphia sportswriter and Hall of Famer Bill Conlin has been accused of molesting four children between the ages of 7 and 12. The alleged assaults came back in the 1970s." WTF? Seriously. WTF??
Mike Napoli, Texas Rangers Talking Contract Extension - MLB Daily Dish. "The Rangers front office is making a conscious effort to lock up their core players; and, thanks to an amazing 2011 campaign, Napoli has joined that group for the Rangers." Sorry, I'm still missing Napoli and will continue to stalk any news of the big stud.
The Royals have signed utility infielder Yuniesky Betancourt to a one-year contract. - royals.com. "The Kansas City Star reported that the contract was for $2 million with incentives that could raise Betancourt's salary to $2.5 million if he takes on a full-time role." This is why I had wished the Royals would be joining the AL West instead of the Astros.
Irate Green Bay Packers fan charged with choking daughter - Appleton Post Crescent. "Police say a drunken woman twice choked her 11-year-old daughter on Sunday after becoming angered by the Green Bay Packers game." They take their Packer football pretty serious here in Wisconsin. That and beer drinking.
Couldn't pass up linking to this post just because the headline is so AWESOME:
This Is What You'll Look Like If You Refuse To Let Go Of A Police Officer's Groin - Deadspin.com. "Add Frank Slowik's face to the list of tonight's remarkable shoplifting-involved mugshots. The Chicago Sun-Times says that Johnny Law "found about $1,000 worth of stolen seafood and meat" in Frankie's car, but it's the run-up to the meat discovery that's important."
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WTF is right
supposedly both boys and girls and also allegedly, parents were aware. sigh
Well, come see a fat old man some time!
Damn.
Just couldn’t have Christmas without a little extra sports related kiddie diddling. What is it out there? Do cold winters = “interfering” with youngsters or something?
Tim Salmon + Yankee cap = HOF.
by gitchogritchoffmypetis on Dec 21, 2011 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
"It wasn't me that choked my daughter, it was my Clay Matthews Fathead that did it."
"One time, when we got back to the locker room, all of our clothes were gone," Trout recalled. "They left me a Lady Gaga costume and I had to wear it."
by 44FAN on Dec 21, 2011 7:42 AM PST reply actions 4 recs
WTF, is that choking story from The Onion, or what?
It's time to retire the Rally Monkey.
by Captain Thailand on Dec 21, 2011 7:55 AM PST via iPhone app reply actions
I really dont want 10 starts from
Oswalt before his arm falls off
The neighbor is a cranky irish expat. He if wanted no snakes, he shoulda stayed in Ireland.
-Moondoggy
oswalt might not grove
With the freewheelin socal style of our pitching staff, he lacks the flow, the birthplace and the PMA.
When I flip a coin I dont say heads or tails, I say Halos or Spurs
groove*
When I flip a coin I dont say heads or tails, I say Halos or Spurs
by ItCouldHappen on Dec 21, 2011 8:49 AM PST up reply actions
Hate it when I have to visit Urbandictionary.com to understand things!
;)
I thought our pitchers have Pre-Menstrual Attitude or something.
Jerome (Hawaii) and Ervin (La Romana, DR) are not born in SoCal.
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Dec 21, 2011 9:03 AM PST up reply actions
lol
I only heard about PMA from his facebook, and while Jerome and Ervin are not from SoCal lets be honest the first thing Ervin did when he made it was get a smoking hot Orange County blonde to tag around with, if thats not SoCal then I dont know what is….. As for Williams, the jury is still out on him, but I am confident hes got the socal attitude
When I flip a coin I dont say heads or tails, I say Halos or Spurs
by ItCouldHappen on Dec 21, 2011 9:37 AM PST up reply actions
I'm with ya.
Not sure how well a Southern Gentleman does in SoCal. Good point.
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Dec 21, 2011 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
Hawaii? That's even more SoCal than SoCal!
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
by red floyd on Dec 21, 2011 9:38 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
They lose ONE GAME and they're choking their kids?
What should I do after my team has lost 14?
I love this team.
ritualistic sacrifice
That’s the only way our Rams are gonna win.
NOT MY QUINNY!!!!
by halofan4life on Dec 21, 2011 9:22 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
I hope they're 6-10 forever
no high draft picks, no rebuilding, no play-offs and I hope she’s rotting in hell
I don’t sound too bitter, do I?
Well, come see a fat old man some time!
by Moondoggy on Dec 21, 2011 9:32 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Dude, the witch is dead and her offspring are out of the organization.
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Dec 21, 2011 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
and the bastards who lured them out of socal?
they dead, too? no redemption.
Well, come see a fat old man some time!
Fair enough.
GO HALOS!
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Dec 21, 2011 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
im glad shes rotting
just dont take it out on my Rams
NOT MY QUINNY!!!!
by halofan4life on Dec 21, 2011 1:00 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Ask Jack Youngblood
how much these Rams give a shit about the LA tradition. These Rams can rot.
Well, come see a fat old man some time!
Pray they move back
Then when they continue to suck in St. Louis, watch more Angels baseball.
"I have something 95 percent of all those All-Stars only wish they had: a World Series ring. If I had to choose between that and being an All-Star, it would be no contest. I’d grab the gold ring and never look back." -Tim Salmon
I told my cousin that if we got the Rams to move back to SoCal
The city of St. Louis will hate us all for ever. First Albert then the Rams
Representing the Angels in Sin City.
by maze88 on Dec 21, 2011 1:02 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
No they really don't care about the Rams
They’ll hate us for Albert and be indifferent about the Rams.
"I have something 95 percent of all those All-Stars only wish they had: a World Series ring. If I had to choose between that and being an All-Star, it would be no contest. I’d grab the gold ring and never look back." -Tim Salmon
Send the Jaguars to Arizona...
move the Cardinals back to St Louis, move the Rams back to LA. Life is good.
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Dec 21, 2011 2:20 PM PST up reply actions
Oswalt would be rad.
" With Haren bolstering the rotation, the Angels are set up beautifully for 2011"- Another East coast biased reporter
by Halos2011champs on Dec 21, 2011 9:08 AM PST via mobile reply actions
WTF are they talking about in that Oswalt article.
They said 28 out of 30 teams need starting pitching (exception Rays, and Rangers).
WTF????
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
Strange
Darvish, Feliz, Holland, Lewis and Ogundo is 5 pitchers….. I guess the article isnt counting that Jerome Williams is probably better than 3 of those pitchers
When I flip a coin I dont say heads or tails, I say Halos or Spurs
by ItCouldHappen on Dec 21, 2011 9:40 AM PST up reply actions
Oh man, he scored with them all too....
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
by mustard_man on Dec 21, 2011 10:06 AM PST up reply actions
some get all the fun
The neighbor is a cranky irish expat. He if wanted no snakes, he shoulda stayed in Ireland.
-Moondoggy
by DAD OF VLAD on Dec 21, 2011 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
Not thrilled with the Cordero news. 36 year old(who will be 37 in May) reliever with declining fastball velocity and a rapidly dropping strikeout rate
Who supposedly won’t consider any offer that doesn’t include him being that team’s closer.
In other words, I would be terrified of Reagins giving him 3 years/24 million.
I’m going to give Dipoto the benefit of the doubt for now though. Please don’t let me down.
ewww Cordero
Definitely giving JeDi the benefit of the doubt.
go long with extenze...i do
by angelsownredsux on Dec 21, 2011 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
Hopefully it's the same case for him
as it was for aramis ramirez and heath bell.
lowball offer just for the hell of it
"id take 5th Dimention Wormhole Rivera over Wells any day of the week"
-clover_black
by the king of CERA on Dec 21, 2011 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
If given the choice, I'd take Oswalt for 1 year over Cordero for 3
Williams moves into the long relief role, Richards and Bell get stretched out in AAA. That would be a really deep rotation and give the team a legitimate stud on the mound every night.
I like Oswalt for a year at 4-5mm, never have too much pitching...
Last year we got tons of innings from the big three and we would be really fortunate if we see the new top 4 give us 200+ innings again without somebody going down. Boston’s rotation looked good on paper before last season but they didn’t have enough depth.
Yeah, he's coming off a 5/73 contract...
SURE he’s going to accept a 1/5 offer. :)
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Dec 21, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
you're prolly right
but last year was really crappy and injury ridden
Well, come see a fat old man some time!
"the force used ....... was acceptable and necessary."
lol
that’s my phrase of the day and what comes immediately to mind are countless things:
when Pujols takes Darvish deep
when TR got booted upstairs
when Mathis got shipped to Canada
by Rex Fregosi on Dec 21, 2011 11:18 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Oswalt
On a one-year deal would be a great pickup. I’m sure he will cost in excess of $10 million. If Arte wants to spend the money, I say go for it.
WiFi
The Royals kicked our ass last year. Perhaps the Astro’s wouldn’t have.
The offseason sucks
I even miss the ridiculous rumors coming out of the Winter Meetings. I feel like hibernating until February.
by stevefinleyallstars on Dec 21, 2011 12:18 PM PST reply actions
I hear you.
I just started commenting on this site, too. Can’t wait to see what it’s like during the regular season…and playoffs, of course.
Winning doesn't matter. -Lyle
I know.
Did you hear the one about the Halos signing Pujols and CJ in the same morning?
"It is a haunted game in which every player is measured against the ghosts of all who have gone before."
Oh have they started actually playing baseball again?
Must’ve missed it
by stevefinleyallstars on Dec 22, 2011 7:17 AM PST up reply actions
yes, what a crappy off season
In 2012, celebrating the 10th Anniversary of the Angel's First World Championship
Commenting on the fact that the offseason sucks because there is a lack of baseball being played
Not because I was unhappy with our acquisitions.
by stevefinleyallstars on Dec 22, 2011 8:55 AM PST up reply actions
Just sit by the window and wait until spring.
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
Jazayerli's article was good.
I remember some folks were freaked out at how we had depleted our farm system in 2010, but would you rather have Will Smith and Tyler Skaggs in Salt Lake this next year or Callaspo as a utility guy with some hitting ability (unless he’s traded) and Dan Beard?
I mean, it’s Dan Haren people! Skaggs will need to be top 7 starter in his league for 3 years in order to make this trade a bust for us.
This type of stuff is even why I’m a little annoyed when people complain that PeeBo “is blocking” Trout. Bourjos is a gold glove caliber MLB center fielder who hits .270 with decent doubles and triples pop against MLB pitching. Trout has proven…. nothing yet.
I hope not (and doubt it’ll happen), but Trout could be the next Lastings Millage. Bourjos is proven and may get better. With the failure rate of even Top 50 prospects, only a fool would trade even 9 “Bourjos type” players at each position for 9 “Trouts”. You’ll end up with one good player, a couple passable ones, and six Jose Offermans.
Tim Salmon + Yankee cap = HOF.
by gitchogritchoffmypetis on Dec 21, 2011 2:07 PM PST reply actions
No one complains that Bourjos is blocking Trout since it is Wells that is blocking Trout.
After this off-season, I have no recollection of this Del Ninja character we use to discuss.
by snowhor on Dec 21, 2011 2:43 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Espn does
There was an article over there today talking about how trout’s value is finished if he plays a corner of spot. Its a stupid argument, but its out there.
by Balls and Strikes on Dec 21, 2011 3:17 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
I guess I should have clarified my comment. I immediately thought of ESPN and the OC Register after hitting post.
No one here complains that Bourjos is blocking Trout.
After this off-season, I have no recollection of this Del Ninja character we use to discuss.
Trout's performance in the AFL...
… is cause for concern. Despite reports that he was ‘tired’ — because who isn’t tired by the time the AFL comes around — there are very few future stars who have played as poorly in the AFL as Trout did.
Just go back and browse through the AFL hitting stats over the last 6 years. Most of the guys that play poorly there are typically among the more mediocre guys (Sean Rodriguez) to the OK guys (Denard Span and Adam Lind). The guys who are now starters and stars nearly always tear the AFL apart (Longoria, Braun, Ethier, Kemp, Kendrick, K. Morales). And yes of of course there are outliers, because Brandon Wood has dominated the AFL on more than one occasion.
Trout’s .600 OPS is the 4th lowest in the entire league. Sure, it’s only 25 games worth of a sample, but at the very least it’s some cause for concern. I know he’s just about as can’t miss as they come, but even can’t miss guys end up missing every now and then.
by Dave Spiwak on Dec 22, 2011 10:00 AM PST up reply actions
"...even can’t miss guys end up missing every now and then."
Just like Yu Darvish, hopefully.
Winning doesn't matter. -Lyle
I think Trout's gonna be fine, and good.
But as a policy, even if all my prospects were “Can’t Miss” like the Royals, I’d still value any proven, consistent MLB commodity, even if it’s just above average and not a super star, above most Blue Chip prospects.
Tim Salmon + Yankee cap = HOF.
by gitchogritchoffmypetis on Dec 22, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions
I think all the "Mets, Nationals, Ozzie Guillen want him" talk of recent weeks has changed the way some in HH see PeeBo.
There have been plenty of comments in the past that sort of accepted the fact that we are stuck with Torii/Wells, and Trout’s the next Mickey Mantle. The posts usually pointed out that PeBo’s not consistent as a hitter, or doesn’t use his speed to create more scoring opportunities. Nit picky stuff that apparently a lot of GMs are willing to overlook if we’d just be stupid and trade him.
There have always been HH folks that have praised PeBos WAR and value. But now that we’ve seen how other kids on the playground want him, and JeDi’s come out and declared Trout a corner outfielder, we have all sort of realized how valuable Pete really is.
Tim Salmon + Yankee cap = HOF.
by gitchogritchoffmypetis on Dec 22, 2011 2:06 PM PST up reply actions
Didn't Karmis essentially have a one-year deal for $25m?
We got burned by that one.
After this off-season, I have no recollection of this Del Ninja character we use to discuss.
Kuroda for 1-2 years
5th starter or he could join the middle relief old folks home. I think he’d be a better investment than Oswalt.
He might prefer the AL as he is one of the worst hitting pitchers of all time.
Arsenal FC ~ Middlesex CCC ~ Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim
I misinterpreted the question.
I don’t see anyway he signs for under $5 mill.
If Bedard can pull a 1 year, $4.5 mill. No way that Oswalt gets under 5.
"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen
Oswalt had the worst year of his career, and it was still pretty good
he’s one year removed from an outstanding 2010.
At one year, he’s surely worth more than $5 million. Plug him in our #5 spot, and we have the best rotation in baseball and it’s not even close.
This is a sig.
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Dec 21, 2011 6:10 PM PST reply actions
not my money
give me some wizard of oswalt
me and the wonder dog got high!
by YOUknowulovetheIE on Dec 21, 2011 8:30 PM PST reply actions
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