John Danks makes me feel even better about CJ Wilson
The contract extension signed by Danks this past week stunned just about everybody in baseball who assumed the White Sox were rebuilding and thus were going to trade Danks. Instead, Kenny Williams turned about and signed Danks to a 5 year deal, buying out the final year of arbitration in the process.
When one compares the last two seasons of Wilson, versus the 2009-10 seasons of Danks (being charitable and ignoring his mostly awful 2011), one sees Wilson has stats the equal or slightly better of Danks' in every major category: Better WHIP, better ERA+, fewer hits per game surrendered, more strikeouts, 6 CG to Danks' 2. One stat which was eye-popping to me showed Wilson gave up just a half a HR per game over those two years, while pitching half his games in Arlington, while Danks averaged one per game.
[Special bonus: While Danks is younger at 27 next April 15, he has 917 IP on his arm's odometer, while Wilson, who just turned 31, has but 708.]
So against that tableau, look at the deal Danks signed with the White Sox: $65M over 5 years. Assuming that he would have won about $9M in arbitration for 2012 anyway, the deal for the remaining four years works out to $14M per season. The contact Danks just signed will be used as a benchmark for other pitchers in their negotiations, which means Wilson most likely would have cost us more if Danks' deal had been concluded first.
Compare that to Wilson's AAV of $15.5M, and Wilson begins to look like a bargain. Given his excellent ability to keep the ball on the ground, combined with the very good defensive play by the Angels' infield, and Wilson may have his best season yet in 2012.
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Let's Go Christopher John Wilson
"One time, when we got back to the locker room, all of our clothes were gone," Trout recalled. "They left me a Lady Gaga costume and I had to wear it."
I actually expect him to be better than he was in Texas.
Call me an optimist, but going from a crazy hitters park to a pitchers park has to help quite a bit.
AND we have a much better defense than Texas, which will also help.
Bourjos alone scratches 0.10+ off your ERA, 0.25+ if your in the bullpen. (NOTE: I did indeed just make that up.)
by moralesforpresident on Dec 24, 2011 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
Monkey math just for fun...
Bourjos’ career UZR 150 = 19.1
Let’s assume Halo SPs average 6 IP per game, so 2/3rds of those runs were saved for the starters (12.73 runs saved).
Divide that by 5 and Bourjos saves ~2.6 runs for each SP. Obviously, this would vary for each SP as they have different fly ball tendencies and don’t pitch an equal amount of innings… but this is monkey math. We’re ball parking it..
So, over 200 innings, Bourjos lowers each starters ERA by nearly 0.12.
That number you pulled out of your ass was pretty close!
Dude, nice!
"Baseball is beautiful. It is the only sport in which you can fail 70% of the time and still be considered the greatest player"
by Halos2011champs on Dec 24, 2011 8:17 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
That sort of analysis of Texas' defense
AND we have a much better defense than Texas, which will also help.
…sounds like some wisdom learned from a TV salesman.
Sure, Callaspo is a nice bargain, but it is hard to state he is the defensive equal of Beltre. Callaspo couldn’t carry Beltre’s cup, assuming Beltre had one in the first place.
CJ is balanced as a groundball/flyball pitcher, so the infield will matter just as much as the OF.
"The contract is brought up a lot. What it's going to take to get past it is winning. This organization took on the contract. I'm here to make them look good."~Vernon Wells
by George Kaplan on Dec 27, 2011 4:28 PM PST up reply actions
Easy now..
Wilson turned 31 in November. Granted he’s probably older than his listed age. You know those Dominicans are always older than they say they are…
Yesterday
I bought a TV from a guy that said he played in HS with CJ.
He kept saying the CJ looked like a boy amongst men then and it was an open secret that he was older than his “official” age.
by TheTypingFiend on Dec 24, 2011 2:15 PM PST up reply actions
well, if a TV salesman says it’s true, then it must be true
by pegitom on Dec 24, 2011 2:52 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
I believe all salesmen...
I woke up in a great mood; I don't know what the hell happened.
by Monkeyspanked on Dec 24, 2011 5:16 PM PST up reply actions
If he looked like a boy among men, then why would he be older than his real age?
"Baseball is beautiful. It is the only sport in which you can fail 70% of the time and still be considered the greatest player"
by Halos2011champs on Dec 24, 2011 5:31 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Listed age
"Baseball is beautiful. It is the only sport in which you can fail 70% of the time and still be considered the greatest player"
by Halos2011champs on Dec 24, 2011 5:31 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
HUH?!?
If he looked like “a boy among men”, then that is saying he was younger (at least in appearance) than the other kids with whom he was playing.
So how does one go from there to “an open secret that he was older than his ‘official’ age”?
And you bought a TV from a guy spouting nonsense like that? Was he working out of a van in an alley?
"The contract is brought up a lot. What it's going to take to get past it is winning. This organization took on the contract. I'm here to make them look good."~Vernon Wells
by George Kaplan on Dec 24, 2011 7:05 PM PST up reply actions
Did the guy you bought the TV from
work at Howards?
"F it, let's pitch." - Ervin Santana
by Chzburger Jones on Dec 25, 2011 2:56 AM PST up reply actions
You can't trust those funky OC birth certificates
It seems like every blind date I meet from Newport Beach turns out to be 4 years older than claimed.
All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine.
by Quad Fin Rider on Dec 25, 2011 4:26 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
ONLY 4 years?
Such a discrepancy would pass for honesty in NB.
"The contract is brought up a lot. What it's going to take to get past it is winning. This organization took on the contract. I'm here to make them look good."~Vernon Wells
by George Kaplan on Dec 25, 2011 9:04 AM PST up reply actions
This has to be a joke.
He was drafted out of high school. There’s almost zero chance of fabricating your age.
And he’s not Dominican. Maybe you’re thinking of Pujols, not Wilson.
by moralesforpresident on Dec 24, 2011 7:32 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I think it was a joke
More to the point of the quoted statement from the TV salesman, when any athlete signs a multimillion dollar contract (like the $7M Wilson was paid in 2011), the team gets a term policy on the player to cover all or most of the salary due for that year (in case another Lyman Bostock situation was to occur).
The insurance company requires some fairly routine an unavoidable documentation, and the age of the insured is what drives the cost of the policy—thus, Wilson didn’t get insured last year without showing his birth certificate, and I don’t think anyone seriously believes that CJ Wilson has a faked birth certificate like Vlad’s or Santana’s.
"The contract is brought up a lot. What it's going to take to get past it is winning. This organization took on the contract. I'm here to make them look good."~Vernon Wells
by George Kaplan on Dec 24, 2011 10:12 PM PST up reply actions
Kinda covered that up top
[Special bonus: While Danks is younger at 27 next April 15, he has 917 IP on his arm’s odometer, while Wilson, who just turned 31, has but 708.]
For those of you keeping score at home, that would be Wilson at 31, not 32, and Danks will be 27 soon after Opening Day. That makes a delta of 4 years, not 6.
"The contract is brought up a lot. What it's going to take to get past it is winning. This organization took on the contract. I'm here to make them look good."~Vernon Wells
by George Kaplan on Dec 24, 2011 7:10 PM PST up reply actions
CJ is going to last forever
all that str8edge and PMA does wonders for the body
"id take 5th Dimention Wormhole Rivera over Wells any day of the week"
-clover_black
by the king of CERA on Dec 24, 2011 11:04 PM PST reply actions
Great point
After what I put my body through at Chico State I wouldn’t sign myself to a 5-year contract for anything, and I’m 4-5 years younger than CJ.
I'm a person just like you...
But I got better things to do than sit around and bump my head! Hang out with the living dead!
Sorry, I couldn’t resist.

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