Mike Trout: Angels Top Prospect Performances #2
Let's put this feature series to bed, shall we?
First, by way of explanation, I went AWOL these past few weeks for the best of reasons: I now have two healthy, precocious little daughters, both of whom are doing great. They were born two months early, but after a long stay in the hospital they're finally home.
Another cause for delay - and all-around-annoyance - is that some kid broke into my classroom and stole my laptop, which not only had a month's worth of otherwise un-backed-up baby pictures saved to it, but all of my baseball-related databases. That means that my WAR calculations and batted ball data from July onward are gone, so I'm going to have to go off memory below.
Four years of teaching in an inner city school in Boston, and the only thing that ever disappeared from my classroom were a few snickers bars. Three months in Portland, and this.
The obvious lesson here? Skaters can bite me.
2) Mike Trout, 8/07/91 - CF, AA & MLB
.326/.414/.544 with 11 HR and 33 SB. +32 run bat*, +5 run glove, ~5 WAR
What can I say about Mike Trout that hasn't already been said? Present consensus ranks him the second best prospect in the game. That's down a notch from last year due to fixation on Harper's otherworldly power, but regardless of his slip to #2 status, the outlook on Trout is probably more positive now than at this time in 2010.
He does everything. He hits, mashes for power, has a great approach at the plate, plays a mean centerfield, and runs circles around the opposition. Literally, he runs circles around them. I've pasted this link here half a dozen times at least, but watching Trout glide through the A's s Midwest League affiliate as if they were a bunch of little leaguers still makes me feel giddy.
Folks are universally cutting Trout slack for his disappointing .245/.279/.321 showing in the 2011 Arizona Fall League. The common refrain is that the kid was exhausted following his second full season of pro baseball and his major league debut. That's fair - Trout was on quite the roller coaster for months - but, for lack of other things to talk about, let's examine the batted ball data a bit more closely to see if there's more reason for concern.
After raving about his speed, the next thing most every analyst observes about Mike Trout is that he uses the opposite field well. It's predictable as Portland rain, and it's also absolutely true. In 2010, he went the opposite way about 4% more of the time than the average Angels' prospect - barely statistically significant - but his BABIP in that direction was about 80 points higher than average. In 2011, his batted ball profile in Arkansas shifted to his pull side, increasing in that direction and away from the right field by about 5% of his balls in play. He was learning to turn on the ball more often, and with good results in the power department.
In 2010, he hit more balls in the air than the average player. That showed up mostly in flyballs, which contributed to his slugging, and a slightly above average pop-up rate, which contributed to a few extra outs. Given how productive he was with that batted ball distribution, I can't imagine anyone wanting to tweak with that approach.
In 2011, he hit the ball in the air even more often. His pop-up rate crept up a few more notches above average, and more of his batted balls to the right side turned into lazy fly outs. As mentioned above, he pulled the ball more often too, so the increased power production to left field made up for the knocks he was otherwise taking to his BABIP.
In the Arizona Fall League, his batted ball distribution changed dramatically. For the first time in his pro career, he hit more balls on the ground than in the air, and a statistically-significant higher percentage of his balls in play went to the opposite field (I wish I still had the hard numbers for that data!). His patience also disappeared. The result was that crummy .245/.279/.321 batting line.
So here's the question: was that new, less productive batted ball distribution the result of exhaustion, small sample size, or Trout's efforts to implement a new approach? Were the Angels actively coaching him to emphasize those cliché "small ball" skills, i.e., hitting the ball on the ground, slapping to the opposite field, etc.? Are the Angels' attempting to mold perhaps the best prospect of the game to fit some rigid idea of what a leadoff hitter should do?
Ok, to be fair, we're playing on two massive assumptions here. The first is that the Angels really would rather see their leadoff hitter slap groundballs to the opposite field rather than working pitchers for walks and mistakes to pull for power. The second is that they are unsatisfied with Trout's approach, and want to see him change it. We have no direct evidence to support the first assumption. We do know that they tweaked with Trout's swing back in August, opening the door to the second assumption, but no reference was made to hitting more balls on the ground. I'm on shaky ground, to be sure.
But this offseason has brought nothing but good news so far, and it's a slow news week, so let's indulge in a little paranoia. Here's some video of Trout taking BP in the Arizona Fall League:
Note how tall Trout remains in his swing, and the narrow separation between his feet. We've seen him use this approach before, both in predraft footage and early on in the Midwest League. Standing that tall helps him to get his hands inside the ball and shoot pitches to the opposite field more easily; it also could help him to stay on top of balls with his swing, contributing to more grounders.
On the other hand, here's some ESPN footage of what Trout looked like in Arkansas:
Trout plants his feet wider apart at the point of contact, especially in the game footage. He still has a pronounced stride, but the swing looks less "effortful." Keeping his weight back also helps him to loft the ball more, and tap more into his growing strength. Could the Angels be trying to move him away from that, and all because of a few 2011 pop-ups and a new-found inclination to pull ball?
I don't know if I'm convinced. Guys will sometimes shorten up their base in batting practice a little, and we only have one cameo from his time in the AFL. The statistical evidence may just be the result of small sample size. And, most importantly, who in their right mind would screw with Mike Trout's approach? I mean, there's no way they'd try to make Trout into some small-ball slap hitter! This has got be an unfair insinuation that I've leveled at the Halos, right? Right?
Right?
The door of doubt has opened for me. Maybe it remains closed for you.
Lastly, just for reference: Trout's batted ball distribution in the majors was similar to his Arkansas distribution. Fewer line drives and a couple more pop-ups, but he hit approximately the same percentage of balls to each field. The extra K's and poor BABIP, both of which are likely to regress with more MLB experience, were responsible for his disappointing numbers in the show.
* Due to that little shit stealing my computer, I fell back on Fangraphs' run values here, not my own calculations that were consistent with the rest of performance rankings. At any rate, my total must have been within 4-5 runs of what I got.
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First CONGRATS on the babies....
More future Halos fans are always nice! PICS PLEASE when you can.
Sorry about the bastards stealing your laptop.
I like Little Fish. He’s got great speed, energy and bunting ability. I think his only limitation is a weak throwing arm. I’d like the Angels to keep him to see what develops
The saddest day of the year is the day baseball season ends.
Dude, Congrats.
Now, go buy a shotgun. You’ll need it.
signed,
red floyd, father of two daughters.
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
A decade and a half at most.
Once they start getting interested in boys.
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
Thanks
Not identical, though they really look alike.
by rghan on Dec 30, 2011 1:11 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Wow. Awesome names.
no joke…love them.
"The Transplant" (So. Cal boy stuck in NYC)
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Dec 30, 2011 6:54 PM PST up reply actions
Gongrats, Ryan!
The best part of your life has just begun!
"If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base." ~Dave Barry
Are you smack dab in the middle of Burnside or something?
Unlike this cat, my love for the LAA will never die.
Remember
Portland recently had a lightsaber attack. There’s some crazy people up here. I’d be thankful it was just my laptop. Lightsabers are deadly.
"I have something 95 percent of all those All-Stars only wish they had: a World Series ring. If I had to choose between that and being an All-Star, it would be no contest. I’d grab the gold ring and never look back." -Tim Salmon
Kohngrats!!!
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some tool named Designatedforassignment from Athletics Nation
Mickey Hatcher has to go
I’m scared to death right now hearing that Trout was going opposite field a ton more when he was already successful with what he was doing, combine this with his patience completely going away in the fall league after working with Mickey for a couple of months of uninterrupted BS. Dipo can value walks and OBP all he wants, but when the guy telling our hitters how to hit is telling them to be aggressive and go the other way……. Get rid of him already……
Also congrats on the Twins, I know that feeling as I have two sons (not twins) and have also had my classroom broken into multiple times. The worst was when I had my computer stolen and my flash drive with the backup of grades stolen ( I know idiot me keeping it in the same room as the computer), then reentering all the grades from hard copies posted on the walls, only to have the other computer they gave me stolen from me.
Jim Bowden on Tony Reagins.
Style: Authoritative, brilliant baseball mind who works well in the trifecta with owner Arte Moreno and manager Mike Scioscia. Builds teams on pitching and defense up the middle. Active at trade deadlines, will trade prospects and has the resources to acquire All-Stars
by MH252525 on Dec 29, 2011 1:50 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
bABIES ARE THE BEST
better when the grow up and you teach them to say Pujols
The neighbor is a cranky irish expat. He if wanted no snakes, he shoulda stayed in Ireland.
-Moondoggy
I was chatting with my freshman the day he signed
They kept snickering when I said, “Pujols.”
14 year old: “So who are you now a fan of?”
Me: “Pujols.”
14 year old: “who’s that again?”
Me: “Pujols. I am a fan of Pujols.”
Class: snicker, snicker, snicker.
They had a point
Congratulations on Twinkies
Good luck on re-amassing your batted ball data along with your filled diaper ratios.
Friggin' AssHoles!
Another cause for delay – and all-around-annoyance – is that some kid broke into my classroom and stole my laptop, which not only had a month’s worth of otherwise un-backed-up baby pictures saved to it, but all of my baseball-related databases. That means that my WAR calculations and batted ball data from July onward are gone, so I’m going to have to go off memory below.
Four years of teaching in an inner city school in Boston, and the only thing that ever disappeared from my classroom were a few snickers bars. Three months in Portland, and this.
The obvious lesson here? Skaters can bite me.
anyone ever see 'Portlandia'???
some hilarious stuff…
The saddest day of the year is the day baseball season ends.
only about battlestar gallatica
The neighbor is a cranky irish expat. He if wanted no snakes, he shoulda stayed in Ireland.
-Moondoggy
The dream of the 90s is alive in Portland!
the ragamuffins that stole your laptop are probably the same troublemakers who have shut down all the downtown parks with their “Occupy Portland” antics.
Congrats on the two girls, I myself have an 8 year old daughter who thinks she is 27. Relish these times when they’re young.
as per Trout, Pujols should just take him under his wing. Avoid Hatcher like the plague.
According to one of KLaw's chats
He said that he believes Trout is tired based on the fact that his time to first base was a lot slower in the AFL compared to what he was clocked at earlier in the season.
Congrats rghan!
Sorry to hear about your computer.
Great post.
Official prediction: The Angels will win the AL west this season.
Congrats on the twins...
I’ve got 6 1/2 year old triplet boys. Ours were born at 32 weeks and stayed in the NICU for about 4 weeks. It is a harrowing time, for sure, so congrats and best of luck.
Your life will NEVER be the same again – so enjoy the little bit of “me-time” you get because it is fleeting and it evaporates as they age.
How does this team win with this offense? Hey, anyone....DRAW A WALK!!!
Jim Scully
Jim Scully Home
Like the plague?
He is the plague, the hack plague.
Quarantine Mickey!
This isn't 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules.
by SalmonStream on Dec 29, 2011 5:15 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Three boys? Wow.
Sounds like a handful.
Official prediction: The Angels will win the AL west this season.
by RexTookMyStash on Dec 29, 2011 5:42 PM PST up reply actions
On an unrelated note:
Has anyone else had porn pop up when the are navigating this website? its happened twice to me already
wtf?
weaver's illegitimate son...although i am pretty legit
by weaver_is_my_daddy on Dec 29, 2011 6:08 PM PST reply actions
I think this site does popups for what each individual person searches for on their computer
so, ummmm….yeah…this is awkward
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some tool named Designatedforassignment from Athletics Nation
by 2pintsofbooze on Dec 29, 2011 6:22 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
you need to stay away from Napoli's sites
The saddest day of the year is the day baseball season ends.
Hey, "weaver_is_my_daddy"
Do you wanna go see the grunion run with next week ?
by Funke5ive on Dec 30, 2011 5:07 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Viruses, Porn
Guys, can you please send a note to support@sbnation.com if this ever happens again? Please include a screen shot of the behavior as we’d love to diagnose the issue and help keep the sites running smoothly (and free of debris like that).
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House Of Sparky
by Cory Williams on Dec 30, 2011 6:37 AM PST up reply actions
Rghan are you in Portland Oregon?
Sorry you got ripped off. That really sucks. Congrats on the healthy girls!
Willits? Check. Reagins? Check. Mathis? Check
Yeah, we moved here in July
So far I love it.
Except for the petty crime. Weird. Of course there’s my laptop, but just yesterday, we were on our way to an appointment and saw a man pick up a football-sized stone over his head and chuck it at point blank range into the screen of a television waiting on the curb to be taken into a bar and grill.
And then the guy ran…
Time to draw big conclusions from random anecdotal experience…
What?
Portland is a weird place. Lived there off and on for about five years. I love it. Housing is cheap, no sales tax and the beer flows like water. Oh and my wife is from just outside of Portland (Damascus).
Next time you and the lady have a night out and are looking for a good, nice place to eat, check out South Park Food and Wine Bar. I worked there for about 2 years and its delicious. Hell, if you talk to the manager (Brandon) and mention my name (Saxon), he’d probably throw in a free glass a wine. No joke!
"The Transplant" (So. Cal boy stuck in NYC)
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Dec 30, 2011 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
Awesome
Next time my wife and I go out — you know, in 2015 or so — we’ll check South Park out. Looks like it’s in a fun part of town.
Did you move to the city, or upstate? My wife and I lived in NYC for a few years as well. Those were good years.
NYC...
It’s my second stint…my GF, now wife got into an MFA program at Columbia so we moved back out here. Living in Brooklyn now near Prospect Park.
"The Transplant" (So. Cal boy stuck in NYC)
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Dec 30, 2011 6:46 PM PST up reply actions
Trout and Hatcher
In 12 games following Trout’s recall he had just 3 strikeouts to 4 walks while showing great plate patience and putting up a 1.21 OPS.
The turning point was on Sept. 05 when he struck out looking twice. I saw him walk back to the dugout and Mickey Hatcher. I made it a point to see if the quality of his at-bats changed at that point because I have seen in the past how backwards K’s are regarded by our management.
In 9 games following Trout had 13 strikeouts and zero walks. Then he went the first 60 at-bats in the AFL without a single walk. Yeah, something changed. Any organization that trusts it’s prized prospect to Mickey Hatcher is insane.
by Coldhands Stark on Dec 30, 2011 11:05 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Rghan!
You’re in Portland, now? The last time I heard you were on the east coast. I guess we flipped places. I’m back in NYC now after being in PDX.
Too bad they are baseball-less town now. I used to go see the Bees play the Beavers on the regular. Me and about 150 people in the entire place. Ugh.
"The Transplant" (So. Cal boy stuck in NYC)
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Dec 30, 2011 11:33 AM PST reply actions
It was the Beavers that moved to Tucson?!
Wtf! That franchise is 110 years old! No reason to move there now..
by Halowitz on Dec 30, 2011 6:46 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Its funny that like 10 years ago everyone in Portland was begging for an MLB team...
stickers and signs everywhere. A couple years later the city kicks out a Triple A team for a MLS team.
Beats me, man. beats me…
"The Transplant" (So. Cal boy stuck in NYC)
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Dec 30, 2011 6:48 PM PST up reply actions
baseball was in Portland...
and it was NOT loved, ironically or sincerely. I would go to games on beautiful late summer days and there would be 200 people in the stands. Caught Conger, Bourjos, Wood, Rodriguez, O’Sullivan play there, though, on numerous occasions. Also saw Jepsen face five batters and give up five runs one time. It was rad/f-cking horrible.
"The Transplant" (So. Cal boy stuck in NYC)
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