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A heartening article from Washington on the Angels commitment to Fleet Pete:

Despite speculation around the game that Trout's arrival will squeeze out Bourjos, the Angels view Trout as more of a corner outfielder than a center fielder, according to the source. The club is strongly committed to Bourjos as its long-term answer in center field, believing he'll win multiple Gold Gloves during his career and make strides at the plate.

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Sigh of relief......

for the Halos future perennial gold glover;)

by halos1974 on Dec 6, 2011 2:09 PM PST reply actions  

I feel like all this recent news is too good to be true

but I’ll still soak in it like a warm bath…full of hot naked women.

"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some tool named Designatedforassignment from Athletics Nation

by 2pintsofbooze on Dec 6, 2011 2:14 PM PST reply actions  

oh ya

I take it you don't have the DOV Secret Decoder Ring
You need to drink more ovaltine
-Quad Fin Rider

by DAD OF VLAD on Dec 6, 2011 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

HANDS OFF MY PETER

dirty old men

I take it you don't have the DOV Secret Decoder Ring
You need to drink more ovaltine
-Quad Fin Rider

by DAD OF VLAD on Dec 6, 2011 2:18 PM PST reply actions  

hey

Unlike this cat, my love for the LAA will never die.

by NathanielS on Dec 6, 2011 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope this "perennial gold glover" thing doesn't become like the "Howie the future batting champ" thing

and this bluster about Pete getting traded seems like it was probably little more than wishful thinking on the part of the other clubs.

by river-z on Dec 6, 2011 2:28 PM PST reply actions  

Difference is

Pete has already been supplying Gold Glove caliber defense in Center. It’s not something he needs to grow into, it’s something he needs to keep doing.

by OntariGro on Dec 6, 2011 2:35 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

^ This

Unfortunately, you are probably right on target.

by Unclearnie on Dec 6, 2011 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

It's a jump throw award.

"Ballplayers play baseball. Hrrmmmff." -Jose Mota

by Fred Fredrix on Dec 6, 2011 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

St. Jeter is TEH AWESOM3!!!!

Yes, that was sarcasm.

If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?

by red floyd on Dec 6, 2011 6:18 PM PST up reply actions  

peter+aybar for hanley?

Even though he’s supposedly safe would any of u guys make this trade?

"How much more money do you need?"
-Jered Weaver, 8/23/2011

by bbasher103090 on Dec 6, 2011 2:41 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

the Marlins don't need a SS

"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some tool named Designatedforassignment from Athletics Nation

by 2pintsofbooze on Dec 6, 2011 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

You're right, they'd need a 3B and could use a SP or CF

Then what about Peter, Callaspo, and a minor leaguer (not Trout) for Hanley,
or
Santana, Callaspo, and a minor leaguer (not Trout) for Hanley?

Of course then we would want him to play 3B too, so his problem continues!

by Persi W on Dec 6, 2011 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Such bad ideas!

" With Haren bolstering the rotation, the Angels are set up beautifully for 2011"- Another East coast biased reporter

by Halos2011champs on Dec 6, 2011 5:34 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Why?

Beacause you couldn’t bear to part with those players or you don’t think it would be enough to get him?

by Persi W on Dec 6, 2011 5:38 PM PST up reply actions  

He isnt worth those players.

He is a poor defending shortstop with bad attitude who already told his team he doesnt want to play 3rd. If we wanted a a poor defending 3rd baseman we could get one from the FA market without knocking out our most effective major leaguers.

" With Haren bolstering the rotation, the Angels are set up beautifully for 2011"- Another East coast biased reporter

by Halos2011champs on Dec 6, 2011 6:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm sure if you asked Marlin fans they'd say the opposite.

They would say that’s not nearly enough in return for a player like Hanley. They expect something on the level of Lincicum or Felix Hernandez in return.

Everyone always values their own players more.

by Persi W on Dec 7, 2011 12:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Its kind of hard not to at least consider it.

Hanley could improve the offense of this team. But Peter and his defense is extremely valuable.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

I blog about the Angels at First2Third.net

by Jay Cal on Dec 6, 2011 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I think that would be a major downgrade

in overall defense on the field while upgrading the offense.

Very interesting offer but giving up two solid defenders with some offense themselves is risky and don’t think I could pull the trigger on this deal.

"Two-thirds of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Peter Bourjos" ~ markinca

by blast21dave on Dec 6, 2011 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

no way.

ha! the fish are gonna have to get in play for Aramis Ramirez now too.
what the heck is going on down there?

by river-z on Dec 6, 2011 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

No way Isherwo

" With Haren bolstering the rotation, the Angels are set up beautifully for 2011"- Another East coast biased reporter

by Halos2011champs on Dec 6, 2011 2:55 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Hanley is a dick

Aybar’s character alone makes him more desireable. One thing I have always loved about this team is that they have a reputation for not selling their souls for a couple of extra wins. (I’m at work and can’t sneak onto BaseballReference but I have to imagine that Petey + Aybar = more WAR than Hanely. I could be wrong though).

Plus, I was there when they clinched the division in 2009 and Aybar was running around like an idiot and hosed down the crowd. That was awesome. I love that guy.

Tim Salmon: The once and future Kingfish.

by Teixeira Who? on Dec 6, 2011 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

WAR

Fleet Pete’s 2011 WAR is 5.0
The Admiral’s 2011 WAR is 4.7
But it’s unfair to use Hanley’s since he was injured. It was 0.5 for 2011 and over the previous 5 seasons he’s had an avg WAR of 5.8 (from 2006 to 2010).

by stereoscopic on Dec 6, 2011 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

So if you ignore last year and just use Hanley's previous year

their combined WAR is greater than Hanley’s.

THIS… IS… ANAHEIM!!

by opiejeanne on Dec 6, 2011 7:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Hanley is a terrible defensive SS and a bitch

Willits? Check. Reagins? Check. Mathis? Check

by hauldog on Dec 6, 2011 3:12 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

The difference between Howie and the Pebo is night and day.

Based upon real statistical data, Peter has probably already earned a couple of gold glovers. Howie on the other hand, is still searching for his holy grail

by Bozo's1000son on Dec 6, 2011 2:43 PM PST reply actions  

Nah. He's fat and crazy.

"I too played shortstop for many years until I was struck down by Acne and Baby Fat" HST

by No Bologna Polonia on Dec 6, 2011 3:08 PM PST reply actions  

Ha, reply fail.

I meant Hanley Ramirez was fat and crazy. Petey is dreamy and sane

"I too played shortstop for many years until I was struck down by Acne and Baby Fat" HST

by No Bologna Polonia on Dec 6, 2011 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh shit - proclamations like this are the kiss of death


Pete’s a lock to be traded……..

I reject your reality and substitute my own.

by mustard_man on Dec 6, 2011 3:14 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

The Angels set the defensive bar way too high IMO
the Angels view Trout as more of a corner outfielder than a center fielder

Trout is a plus defender in CF by all accounts except the Angels org. And in most orgs Conger gets the chance to be the everyday catcher. ugh

go long with extenze...i do

by angelsownredsux on Dec 6, 2011 4:00 PM PST reply actions  

Well, the Angels have the luxury

of having Bourjos. I don’t think the bar is set high. It’s just that there’s a better defensive player on the team and he’s also part of their future, that’s all.

by smithy610 on Dec 6, 2011 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Trout has no arm

Hard to be a good centerfielder without a throwing arm. Particularly if the BEST DEFENSIVE CENTERFIELDER IN BASEBALL is under cheap team control for a half decade.

by mattwelch on Dec 6, 2011 5:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Trouts arm does not pass the eye ball test

Or the smell test

Or the “lets see if you can throw a baseball without looking like a little girl” test

I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....

by PhiSlamma on Dec 7, 2011 8:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Bourjos

Mattweich is so right that Pete is the best center fielder around. Speed, super arm, and still learning. Pete would be untouchable to me. Trout will do very well to be as good as Pete.

by shelley p on Dec 6, 2011 6:11 PM PST reply actions  

I read that it is near impossible for a major leauguer to

improve their swing. But Pete did it. in streaks, but towards the end of the year he was en fuego.

Unlike this cat, my love for the LAA will never die.

by NathanielS on Dec 6, 2011 6:27 PM PST reply actions  

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