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Angels Winter Meetings Update

Is Meat Loaf related to Meat Pujols?

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According to Sitemeter, carnivores are really interested in the rumors of the Angels signing of Albert Pujols, but hey, don't get PULOUS over us, we play Angela Baseball here when we are not trying to work out a trade for C.J. Wilson...

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Since the Marlins signed Mark Buehrle earlier today, they're probably done using apostrophes.

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10 years, 22 million per
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201 votes
Hoping Mark Trumbo's Foot Gets Better
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DiPoto close this deal

Willits? Check. Reagins? Check. Mathis? Check

by hauldog on Dec 7, 2011 5:44 PM PST reply actions  

So i can go to sleep tonight

" With Haren bolstering the rotation, the Angels are set up beautifully for 2011"- Another East coast biased reporter

by Halos2011champs on Dec 7, 2011 5:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah no shit

Willits? Check. Reagins? Check. Mathis? Check

by hauldog on Dec 7, 2011 5:50 PM PST up reply actions  

That thread too awesome.

Mathis is finally gone. Only good things can happen now.

by Angelsrthebest101 on Dec 7, 2011 5:48 PM PST reply actions  

Jon Hymen says Angels talking to Puhols to leaverage CJ Wilson

Napoli's 27th, 28th, 29th and 30th homers of the year (four more than Jeff Mathis' career total) rained down on Angel Stadium like knives from the ceiling.

by 44FAN on Dec 7, 2011 5:50 PM PST reply actions  

Get out of DiPoto's head Hymen!

Willits? Check. Reagins? Check. Mathis? Check

by hauldog on Dec 7, 2011 5:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Now that actually makes sense

DiPoto makes the rumor mill do his bidding…

by Suboptimal on Dec 7, 2011 5:51 PM PST up reply actions  

10 x 22mil better than 8 x 27 mil

10 years, $22 million ($220 million total) is the same amount of money as 8 years, $27 million ($216 million total) with an extra two years for $2 million each, which is lower than the going rate for veterans nowadays.

Of course, I think both figures would be too high for anyone, including Pulous.

by gilbert on Dec 7, 2011 5:50 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

just give pujols 10/230

the money he’ll bring in, will pay for his contract

by Frank158369 on Dec 7, 2011 5:50 PM PST reply actions  

could I interest you in some billboard advertising sir?

Napoli's 27th, 28th, 29th and 30th homers of the year (four more than Jeff Mathis' career total) rained down on Angel Stadium like knives from the ceiling.

by 44FAN on Dec 7, 2011 5:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Already tried that.

" With Haren bolstering the rotation, the Angels are set up beautifully for 2011"- Another East coast biased reporter

by Halos2011champs on Dec 7, 2011 6:31 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Angel "meat" with Pujols?

In 2012, celebrating the 10th Anniversary of the Angel's First World Championship

by tanana40 on Dec 7, 2011 5:51 PM PST reply actions  

R they talkin' about the Soth?

Old Big Meat meets with Young Big Meat

by Raaddad on Dec 7, 2011 6:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Angels "meat" with Pujols

really guys?

I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....

by PhiSlamma on Dec 7, 2011 5:51 PM PST reply actions  

I totally missed Meatloaf's photo on the thread

In 2012, celebrating the 10th Anniversary of the Angel's First World Championship

by tanana40 on Dec 7, 2011 5:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Angela Baseball says hello

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

Follow the Chicken on Twitter

by SportsChicken on Dec 7, 2011 6:19 PM PST up reply actions  

The willingness of these "journalists"

to be manipulated is staggering.

Unlike this cat, my love for the LAA will never die.

by NathanielS on Dec 7, 2011 5:53 PM PST reply actions  

almost as bad

as their willingness to pull it all out of their asses.

by Rev Halofan on Dec 7, 2011 5:54 PM PST up reply actions  

C.J. Wilson trade?

I guess he wants to trade his services for $100million.

by JeffJoiner on Dec 7, 2011 5:55 PM PST reply actions  

Bridesmaids again

I guess we are going to see how “creative” the "new"regime is going to be.

by Dfresh on Dec 7, 2011 5:59 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

FINISH HIM

"Just another Halo victory" - Rory Markas

by Slyintine on Dec 7, 2011 6:01 PM PST reply actions  

The leverage

Thing doesnt make sense to me. Wilson would just tell Angels go ahead sign Pujols, i’ll go to Miami. So something is going on because its taking to long.

by CaptainCarlos on Dec 7, 2011 6:06 PM PST reply actions  

Hi Spy!

I’ve had two yummy BBQ’s

by LanaBanana on Dec 7, 2011 6:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Skirt steak, like you suggested

and beef ribs. I tried the teriyaki sauce and the Korean one that came in a package. Both great!

by LanaBanana on Dec 7, 2011 6:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Work, and Little League

Little League is getting on us because of the success this tiny community is getting.

They want to make sure that we a legit in the way we run our League over here. Plus some of the new coaches think they know better then the board at the moment. So I have been cracking the whip on the miscreants to keep them in line. Can’t lose this job. So I power trip.

by eyespy on Dec 7, 2011 6:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Good for you!

How many teams in your league/
Farm, Minor A, Minor B and Majors?
That’s what ours were called

by LanaBanana on Dec 7, 2011 6:22 PM PST up reply actions  

T-Ball; Peewee; Minors; Majors; Juniors; Seniors

Right now only T-Ball(2 teams), Peewee(5/6), and Minors(6/7).

The rest will start up in the Spring. Only the Minors will be having their regular season. The other two will be in a TAD season.

by eyespy on Dec 7, 2011 6:26 PM PST up reply actions  

6/$90MM

Eff it!

Representing the Angels in Sin City.

by maze88 on Dec 7, 2011 6:13 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Same shit..

different year. So far not seeing anything different. For once I’d like the Angels to just give the damn extra year if it means getting a deal done.

King Conger!

by LeeUnitxxx on Dec 7, 2011 6:07 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

disagree

Unlike this cat, my love for the LAA will never die.

by NathanielS on Dec 7, 2011 6:08 PM PST up reply actions  

i agree with your disagree

if we are going to spend big money, we better make sure it’s a sure-fire talent. We don’t want another Big Splash around to tie down our payroll for years.

No, it's the Clip Show!

by dan73962 on Dec 7, 2011 6:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Screw it 6 years $378M for cj.

With a vesting option for years 7-17.
Potentially raise the deal to $768M.

I have a secret place, inside my mind, where I keep hidden inspiration you wont find.

by Tapatio Man on Dec 7, 2011 6:12 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Kendrys Morales Update

During his latest rehabilitation attempt Morales made the ill-fated decision to play some football.

by Fan Since 1981 on Dec 7, 2011 6:12 PM PST reply actions  

That's so not true

He’s still kickin’ it in the lazyboy
but should be up walking by april.

by Raaddad on Dec 7, 2011 6:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope Pulous signs with us

Whoever he is. Cmon Angela do something

"Ballplayers play baseball. Hrrmmmff." -Jose Mota

by Fred Fredrix on Dec 7, 2011 6:17 PM PST reply actions  

Still think

We find out later tonight. That way i get to sleep.

by CaptainCarlos on Dec 7, 2011 6:18 PM PST reply actions  

Wilson is an arrogant ass.

Part of me hopes we sign him and part fears that we will and we’ll be sorry.

by LanaBanana on Dec 7, 2011 6:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Hope for the best.

He has had two very good years in a band box.

Willits? Check. Reagins? Check. Mathis? Check

by hauldog on Dec 7, 2011 6:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Our clubhouse is to sterile at the moment

A little nastiness will be good for its soul

by eyespy on Dec 7, 2011 6:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Angels close to signing Latroy Hawkins

Per Ken Rosenthal would be a solid pickup. Link

Mathis is finally gone. Only good things can happen now.

by Angelsrthebest101 on Dec 7, 2011 6:26 PM PST reply actions  

in 2002

Willits? Check. Reagins? Check. Mathis? Check

by hauldog on Dec 7, 2011 6:27 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

If he’s cheap, I don’t care. Our pen is so atrocious that Takahashi’s 2011 is still one of the better seasons in there.

by ConcernedParent on Dec 7, 2011 6:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Racist!

Representing the Angels in Sin City.

by maze88 on Dec 7, 2011 6:30 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Wow...really?

note to self…bc56274 is full of shit.

"The Transplant" (So. Cal boy stuck in NYC)

by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Dec 7, 2011 6:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Him and Jerome can exchange notes

on how to make a great comeback during their careers

by eyespy on Dec 7, 2011 6:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Quick Hawkins Review

Innings
2009: 63.1
2010: 16
2011: 48.1

FIP
2009: 3.97
2010: 3.95
2011: 2.76

K/9
2009: 6.39
2010: 10.13
2011: 5.21

Average Fastball
2009: 94.2
2010: 92.4
2011; 92.6

Hawkins turns 39 this month.
He’s not good enough for high leverage situations. It better be a cheap deal.

by Fan Since 1981 on Dec 7, 2011 6:34 PM PST up reply actions  

One stat stands out

Among 160 MLB relief pitchers who pitched at least 40 innings in 2011, Hawkins had the 9th best GB% (61.7%). However it’s uncharacteristic for him (career rate is 47.1%).
Was his ability to generate ground balls in 2011 a fluke?

Stat Source

by Fan Since 1981 on Dec 7, 2011 6:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Hawkins was bothered by a sore shoulder for much of the season.

He eventually underwent surgery on his labrum and rotator cuff in August 2010.

source

by Fan Since 1981 on Dec 7, 2011 6:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm guessing

that after the surgery, the mobility in his arm movement changed for the better.

Sign him for one season, and a team option. He’ll be better this year, than last.

by eyespy on Dec 7, 2011 7:30 PM PST up reply actions  

meh

his k/9 rate is garbage

All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine.

by Quad Fin Rider on Dec 7, 2011 6:34 PM PST up reply actions  

i like my reliever signing like i like my women,

CHEAP and SHORT TERM

weaver's illegitimate son...although i am pretty legit

by weaver_is_my_daddy on Dec 7, 2011 6:40 PM PST reply actions  

and big tits

http://babiesboozeandboobs.wordpress.com/

by Sethy on Dec 7, 2011 6:40 PM PST up reply actions  

This made me laugh! “meat, pulous, angela, trade”

"Stay loyal to the Angels. As for me, I'm jumping on the Nationals bandwagon, later." -Daniel Sirca

by migfig on Dec 7, 2011 6:50 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Never liked

Hawkins but better than Bulger or Rodney

by CaptainCarlos on Dec 7, 2011 6:55 PM PST reply actions  

That is not saying much.

A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.

by angelslogic on Dec 7, 2011 6:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm just as good as Fraudney.

I could go in and walk the first three batters I faced, too!

If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?

by red floyd on Dec 7, 2011 6:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m just as good as Hawkins!

by CaptainCarlos on Dec 7, 2011 7:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Don't do it C.J.!

C.J. Wilson could be ready to accept a six-year offer from the Marlins. The long-term commitment appeals to him and so does chance to hit

Link

by ~MMP~ on Dec 7, 2011 6:59 PM PST reply actions  

Just as he "could be" ready to accept an offer from the Pirates

Doesn’t mean it’s happening.

Still, worrisome.

Light up that halo! RIP, Nick.

by Clutch on Dec 7, 2011 7:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Have a good time in So. Fla CJ.

2011, it's going to be a heck of year, or not

by salmonforever on Dec 7, 2011 7:01 PM PST up reply actions  

CJ is so stoked to be hitting in the NL and a long term contract...

that he is still pleading with the halos to go 6.

CJ gonna go 5 years with the halos.

What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.

by clover_black on Dec 7, 2011 7:10 PM PST up reply actions  

A Halo Heaven tweet 52 minutes ago

2011, it's going to be a heck of year, or not

by salmonforever on Dec 7, 2011 7:11 PM PST up reply actions  

CJ stands for Choke Job.

Enjoy Miami.

Now let’s focus on Prince Fielder.

I've got nothing.

by bc56274 on Dec 7, 2011 7:08 PM PST reply actions  

5/125 would be nice.

They want power. We want respect...

by SenorChuckles on Dec 7, 2011 7:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Too high of an average salary.

I would see more of a Mark Teixeira type deal with less years.

Mathis is finally gone. Only good things can happen now.

by Angelsrthebest101 on Dec 7, 2011 7:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Much better off with the higher annual salary

Dudes like Prince don’t usually last very long into their 30s.

by Suboptimal on Dec 7, 2011 7:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Opposed to an eight year deal.

Yes, but not quite 25 mill a year. Maybe 6 years for 22 or 23 mill a year.

Mathis is finally gone. Only good things can happen now.

by Angelsrthebest101 on Dec 7, 2011 7:13 PM PST up reply actions  

No C.J. fine I'll take Pujols

Not signing C.J. increases our odds of signing Pujols by 8%. I’ll take it!

by GrandyOlePal on Dec 7, 2011 7:12 PM PST reply actions  

I think we would all be fine with that.

If we actually sign Pujols……..

Mathis is finally gone. Only good things can happen now.

by Angelsrthebest101 on Dec 7, 2011 7:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I doubt this gets settled tonight.

Feel free to prove me wrong, C.J.

They want power. We want respect...

by SenorChuckles on Dec 7, 2011 7:23 PM PST reply actions  

Angels in negotiations with Pujols still.

Per Ken Rosenthal Angels still talking with Albert along with Cardinals. Link Please happen. lol

Mathis is finally gone. Only good things can happen now.

by Angelsrthebest101 on Dec 7, 2011 7:33 PM PST reply actions  

Confirmed by Tim Brown at Yahoo

Link

Mathis is finally gone. Only good things can happen now.

by Angelsrthebest101 on Dec 7, 2011 7:35 PM PST up reply actions  

The Angels need a new face of the franchise

Arte is a smart business man he knows Pujols is a once in a generation player. Arte I believe.

by GrandyOlePal on Dec 7, 2011 7:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Arte I believe in you

Ken_Rosenthal: Sources: Pujols in talks with #Angels, #Cardinals and a third, unidentified club. #MLB

by GrandyOlePal on Dec 7, 2011 7:33 PM PST reply actions  

I bet we are the 3rd team also.

Alberts agent running back and forth between Jerry and Arte as they bid against each other!

2011, it's going to be a heck of year, or not

by salmonforever on Dec 7, 2011 7:37 PM PST reply actions  

umm... no he didn't

Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34

by howiestheman on Dec 7, 2011 7:57 PM PST up reply actions  

your right it is w/CJ.

2011, it's going to be a heck of year, or not

by salmonforever on Dec 7, 2011 7:59 PM PST up reply actions  

it was jon morosi

angels meeting pujols agent tonight.

What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.

by clover_black on Dec 7, 2011 8:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Honestly,

8/205 sounds like a solid offer for Albert.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by vlad IS my man on Dec 7, 2011 7:56 PM PST reply actions  

Not enough

His heart is in st louis so you really need to smash cards offer

by CaptainCarlos on Dec 7, 2011 8:09 PM PST up reply actions  

agree w/this

2011, it's going to be a heck of year, or not

by salmonforever on Dec 7, 2011 8:12 PM PST up reply actions  

If we are serious about Pujols

F off str8edgeracer

Willits? Check. Reagins? Check. Mathis? Check

by hauldog on Dec 7, 2011 8:04 PM PST reply actions  

ferreal.

if he’s chasing that extra year, then he deserves to be stuck on an irrelevant team for the remainder of his contract. i still dont see the marlins doing squat against the phillies and braves.

What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.

by clover_black on Dec 7, 2011 8:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Side thought

But THIS is how you fucking do things at Winter Meetings. GG, DiPoto.

glares at Reagins***

http://babiesboozeandboobs.wordpress.com/

by Sethy on Dec 7, 2011 8:17 PM PST reply actions  

+1

it’s weird actually being excited about things and optimistic.

I like DiPoto

Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34

by howiestheman on Dec 7, 2011 8:21 PM PST up reply actions  

It's like there was actual thought put into things

Rather than just hanging out at a hotel in a different state hunting strange and buying players and agents dinner on the company dime – or whatever Reagins was doing.

http://babiesboozeandboobs.wordpress.com/

by Sethy on Dec 7, 2011 8:27 PM PST up reply actions  

tweet from Morosi

Source with knowledge of C.J. Wilson talks expects him to sign five-year deal with #Angels.

2011, it's going to be a heck of year, or not

by salmonforever on Dec 7, 2011 8:26 PM PST reply actions  

jon morosi

Source with knowledge of C.J. Wilson talks expects him to sign five-year deal with #Angels.

What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.

by clover_black on Dec 7, 2011 8:26 PM PST reply actions  

it totally would

If there was even a legit Pujols deal.

http://babiesboozeandboobs.wordpress.com/

by Sethy on Dec 7, 2011 8:28 PM PST up reply actions  

OR...

Arte has gone batshit insane, flipped into vietnam mode, and signs both pujols and wilson.

What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.

by clover_black on Dec 7, 2011 8:30 PM PST up reply actions  

he will then want $12.00 for parking!!

2011, it's going to be a heck of year, or not

by salmonforever on Dec 7, 2011 8:33 PM PST up reply actions  

We just lost CJ

toriihunter48
@str8edgeracer come on home to the OC. U would luv it and fans will luv u too. Alot of fun.

What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.

by clover_black on Dec 7, 2011 8:35 PM PST reply actions  

Hawkins deal official
MikeDiGiovanna
Hawkins deal with #Angels for one year and $3 million.

seems a little high to me…

Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34

by howiestheman on Dec 7, 2011 8:44 PM PST reply actions  

It is probably more than he's worth

But it’s only for a year, so it’s alright

"Just another Halo victory" - Rory Markas

by Slyintine on Dec 7, 2011 8:49 PM PST up reply actions  

You know you're a bad dad...

When you tease your kids with an Albert Pujols for Christmas, and only end up getting them a LaTroy.

Arte wouldn’t let that happen.

OR WOULD HE????!!!

by Zaius on Dec 7, 2011 8:57 PM PST reply actions  

Jon_Heyman Jon Heyman
#angels reportedly trying for pujols, and they do have big tv $ coming. But pujols associate guesses itd take “$40M more” to leave stl
6 minutes ago

$40m more than what? Nice reporting, douchewad.

This is a sig.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Dec 7, 2011 9:04 PM PST reply actions  

40M more than what the Cardinals offered

Which was reported as 9 years, 220 million.

"Just another Halo victory" - Rory Markas

by Slyintine on Dec 7, 2011 9:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't necessarily read it that way

it could very easily mean the Angels have thrown out numbers, and are still 40mil short.

Honestly, I wouldn’t necessarily balk at offering 9/260.

This is a sig.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Dec 7, 2011 9:07 PM PST up reply actions  

probaby north of 250

2011, it's going to be a heck of year, or not

by salmonforever on Dec 7, 2011 9:06 PM PST up reply actions  

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