Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: VIDEO: Veterans Share Favorite Sports Memories

Original Angel Chuck Tanner, RIP

Most people if they think of the late Chuck Tanner at all it's as the see-no-evil caretaker of the We Are Fam-i-lee Pirates, the avuncular enabler of Dick Allen's Chicago second act, the hapless bystander of the late-'80s Braves, or even as the super-'70s basestealing psycho who coaxed 52 SBs out of Don Baylor of all people en route to a Major League record 341 with the 1976 A's.

But Chuck Tanner was on the original 1961 Angels -- one of six future managers on the squad (Jim Fregosi, Buck Rodgers, Del Rice, Ken Aspromonte, Eddie Yost). And more important than the backup outfielder's 16 at-bats in a Halo uniform, Tanner was the Los Angeles/California Angels minor league manager of the 1960s.

Star-divide

After hanging up his spikes following the 1962 season, Tanner managed in the Angels farm system from 1963-70, spending two years at A, three at AA, and three at AAA before taking over the White Sox job in September 1970, just after completing one of the best minor league seasons in franchise history, a 98-48 romp at AAA Hawaii. He helped midwife to the majors Winston Llenas, Tom Egan, Rick Reichardt, Jay Johnstone, Marty Pattin, Jim Spencer, Clyde Wright, Tom Burgmeier, Ed Kirkpatrick, Hector Torres, Auerilio Rodriguez, Tom Murphy, Marty Perez, Ken Tatum, Rudy May, Steve Kealey, Doug Griffin, Tom Bradley, and Dave LaRoche, compiling along the way a record of 561-537 (.511).

If the Angels had been run by a competent baseball man, instead of Gene Autry, Chuck Tanner would have been the franchise's second big-league manager. The choice was screamingly obvious both at the time and in retrospect. Instead, when Autry's new General Manager Dick Walsh grew tired of Bill Rigney in the middle of 1969, he replaced the original Angel skipper with a tobacco-drooling yahoo who had not managed a single game on any level of organized baseball: Lefty Phillips. Lefty, like Walsh, was a recent hire from the Dodgers organization, and the Angels were still decades away from trusting their own culture and judgment more than whatever sloppy management seconds they could sponge from Chavez Ravine. Among his many faults, Lefty couldn't abide having Spanish-speaking players on his team, on account of their funny-talk.

As Ross Newhan wrote in his updated history,

Autry would concede years later that it was at this juncture he made a serious mistake by not insisting Walsh elevate Chuck Tanner, a communicative fireball who would later lead Pittsburgh to a world championship. Tanner was then managing the Angels' Hawaii farm club, having been in the system as a player and manager almost from the start, a man totally familiar with the players then on the Angels' roster. [...]

"Lefty Phillips was a fine man with a solid reputation as coach and scout, but he was a disaster as manager and I will accept the blame for not insisting Tanner be hired."

Tanner would manage in the big leagues without interruption from 1970 until he was fired from the Braves in 1988. Phillips was dead by 1972.

Tanner's managerial style, as you might expect, was very much influenced by Bill Rigney. As Chris Jaffe's very useful 2009 book Evaluating Baseball's Managers points out, Rigney and Tanner are both in the Top 5 managers all time in getting value out of their bullpens (Tanner made stars out of Terry Forster, Goose Gossage, and Kent Tekulve). Paradoxically (or not), they both were basically the last two managers to make anything like a habit out of giving starts to pitchers on two days' rest. And above all, both stand out in history -- though only Tanner gets really blamed for it -- as over-indulgent managers who looked the other way while their headstrong players went off the deep end with substance abuse.

Tanner gets the ink on this because mostly because his Pirates were at the center of the early-'80s cocaine scandal, because Dick Allen was one of the most controversial players to ever wear stirrups, because his career overlapped with the dawn of free agency, and probably because many of his key protagonists were black. Rigney's degenerate, second-division alcoholics, on the other hand, were more "colorful" than colored, and to this day are treated with more of a nudge-nudge, boys-will-be-boys kind of Bo-and-Dean revisionism than anything like the scrutiny Dick Allen would have faced if he had, like Belinsky did, violently assaulted multiple girlfriends. The two managers' styles on this question were very different -- Rigney was a hard drinker who liked to be the center of attention and occasionally tried to crack down on his wayward charges, Tanner was more genuinely clueless about what was going around him. But both were key figures in baseball's transition from player-slaves to player-millionaires, from '50s morality (or pretense thereof) to '70s extravagance.

I would have loved to know how much Tanner's famous laissez-faire attitude was learned, consciously or not, from Rigney, and what he thought about those talent-rich, potential-unfulfilled Angels squads of the 1960s. Sadly, his death is a reminder that those of us serious about our Angel history need to get off our asses and start trying to document things that the few existing Angel historians haven't thought to ask. RIP.

This Fan-Post is authored by an independent fan. Tell us what you think and how you feel.

Comment 60 comments  |  4 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

Comments

Display:

...you've obviously never heard "I Will Survive" by Gloria Gaynor.

"Erstad says he's got it, Erstad...MAKES THE CATCH! The Anaheim Angels are the champions of baseball!" - Rory Markas, October 27, 2002

by Of Maicer and Men on Feb 13, 2011 7:34 PM PST up reply actions  

"Ring my Bell" by Anita Ward FTW.

A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.

by angelslogic on Feb 13, 2011 7:39 PM PST up reply actions  

WAIT

“My Ding-a-Ling” by Chuck Berry.

"Erstad says he's got it, Erstad...MAKES THE CATCH! The Anaheim Angels are the champions of baseball!" - Rory Markas, October 27, 2002

by Of Maicer and Men on Feb 13, 2011 7:52 PM PST up reply actions  

"The Night Chicago Died"

“The Night The Lights Went Out in Georgia”
“Playground in My Mind”
“Having My Baby”
“Escape (The Piña Colada Song)”
“Him”
“Feelings”
“You Take My Breath Away”

. . .just from memory. the Seventies gave us many annoyingly insipid songs.

by rspencer on Feb 13, 2011 8:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Uh...

“Kung Fu Fighting”
“Sugar Sugar” (may have been late 60’s…whatever)
“I am Woman” (that sounds like a man)
“Afternoon Delight”
“The Night Chicago Died” (Pity you weren’t there)
Anything by Captain & Tenille
Anything by the Carpenters
Anything by Starbuck (or was getting into the 80’s?)
Anything by Firefall
Anything by Seals & Croft (travelled with a GF on a 2 day trip where I heard their greatest hits over and over…“Summer Breeze” my ass)

Annoying insipity FTW. How did they come up with such junk? How did I live throught it? Mysteries abound!

by sothball on Feb 14, 2011 7:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Led Zeppelin. That's how we lived through it.

"I'm not really concerned about the Bill Jameses and the sabremetric people..." - Tony Reagins

by Stirrups on Feb 14, 2011 7:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I enjoyed Zep’s first 2 albums (does anyone call them albums anymore)? After that, I quit listening, but sort of rediscovered them somewhere in the 90’s (KLOS overload).

I sustained myself with the Allman Brothers, old Jimi Hendrix, Chicago (yeah, they could get pretty bland), old Beatles stuff (till I was nauseous), Blood Sweat & Tears, Malo, Earth Wind and Fire, Jethro Tull (Thick as a Brick), and later Jimmy Buffett.

That or I listened to Jim Healy!

by sothball on Feb 14, 2011 7:53 PM PST up reply actions  

ZZ Top?

Lynyrd Skynyrd…Three Dog Night…Grand Funk Railroad…The Who…Santana…hell, even Bad Company, CCR and Queen. And some art house group named after moving rocks or something.

But when I grow up and become a kickass closer, they will play Kashmir as I slowly stroll in from the bullpen giving my cold stare at the opposiing dugout the whole way.

"I'm not really concerned about the Bill Jameses and the sabremetric people..." - Tony Reagins

by Stirrups on Feb 14, 2011 8:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh. Sad.

An entire decade and you missed THIS?

"I'm not really concerned about the Bill Jameses and the sabremetric people..." - Tony Reagins

by Stirrups on Feb 14, 2011 8:43 PM PST up reply actions  

No. Couldn’t really miss it because it was so over saturated…which is why I tried to miss it.

You can stroll in to Kashmir…I’ll take Queen’s “Fat Bottom Girls”. That would guarantee lots of cold stares.

by sothball on Feb 14, 2011 8:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Fat bottom girls, you make the rockin' world go round!

Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch

by red floyd on Feb 14, 2011 9:27 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

The second wave baby boomer marching anthem announcing our takeover from The Turtles pie hole older brothers.

Let it play, baby. Over and over and over and over…

"I'm not really concerned about the Bill Jameses and the sabremetric people..." - Tony Reagins

by Stirrups on Feb 14, 2011 9:28 PM PST up reply actions  

You cast your net a bit too wide

and you duplicated my first pick, but otherwise, oh yeah. The Seventies were the best and worst of times musically.

I must say, I love “Summer Breeze” for its clever use of toy piano.

by rspencer on Feb 14, 2011 10:51 PM PST up reply actions  

That song

annoyed me even then. And I was, what, 8 years old at the time?

by jjackflash on Feb 13, 2011 10:43 PM PST up reply actions  

All that crap by Styx and REO Speedwagon

made disco palatable.

Said the punk rock fossil

by Rev Halofan on Feb 13, 2011 8:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh damn...

…I’d forgot about them. Yes, add them to the funeral pyre.

by sothball on Feb 14, 2011 7:13 PM PST up reply actions  

You speak the TRUTH kind sir

To make matters was to be subjected that music on continual basis by the hard rockers of the State of Indiana.

by Bozo's1000son on Feb 17, 2011 10:25 PM PST up reply actions  

you mean, by Sister Sledge

by Barca on Feb 14, 2011 6:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Richie Allen became a Dick

And Chuck Tanner was the beneficiary.

Great article. I had not heard that story of Autry’s folly with the manager situation in 1970. Really good stuff.

by Zaius on Feb 13, 2011 7:39 PM PST reply actions  

All of us should heed Matt's words:
Sadly, his death is a reminder that those of us serious about our Angel history need to get off our asses and start trying to document things that the few existing Angel historians haven’t thought to ask. RIP.

by wumbug on Feb 13, 2011 7:49 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

"Its hard to win a pennant,

but it’s harder to lose one" – Chuck Tanner

RIP

"We are not on an austerity program," Arte Moreno

by thebigtizzle on Feb 13, 2011 8:06 PM PST reply actions  

Speaking of former Angels passing away...

Gino Cimoli, who played with the Halos in 1965, has passed away at 81.

by WiseAndEck on Feb 13, 2011 8:07 PM PST reply actions  

Awesome article and great read

just really a nice historical account.

with all the other issues Tanner dealt with, I still remember him most for the 1979 championship and of course, we weren’t too far away from playing them from title that year being our first divisional playoff.

the other connection with that 1979 team is one of our favorites, Bert Blyleven ~ it’d be great to hear Bert’s take on Tanner too.

by Rex Fregosi on Feb 13, 2011 8:19 PM PST reply actions  

I remember Tanner most for his 1976 base-stealin' A's

Don Baylor stole 52 (!!) bases for that team; Larry Lintz had 31 SB’s with…1 AB. It was crazy.

Nice write up, Matt.

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." - Woody Hayes

by johnnyangel101 on Feb 13, 2011 8:27 PM PST reply actions  

Don Baylor was a great athlete.

My fondest memory of the guy is how he’d respond to getting beaned…which happened frequently since he crowded the plate. He’d see the beanball coming…make a slight turn toward the plate so he wouldn’t get hit in the head…and absorb the blow. With absolutely no expression of pain, no anger, no look toward the pitcher, not the least bit of a flinch, he’d flick his bat toward the on deck circle and make his way to first base.

He wouldn’t give a pitcher the least bit of acknowledgment. Mr. Pitcher, your best fastball/beanball means absolutely, positively nothing to me. I’m on first base,and you’ve got to face another batter. So, go f**k yourself.

by sothball on Feb 14, 2011 7:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Groove was a class act.

His only weakness was he had a noodle for a throwing arm. It made Juan Pierre’s throws look like missles.

by Bozo's1000son on Feb 17, 2011 10:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, that, and his uncanny ability to pop out with towering fly balls to the catcher at the most inopportune time.

"Jeff doesn't have his head buried in the sand. He knows it's a defensive position and he brings a lot on the defensive side." - Mike Scioscia, head buried deep in the sand.

by Stirrups on Feb 17, 2011 10:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow, that is EXACTLY right

Just like the Kotchman/Erstad two-hopper to the second-baseman.

by mattwelch on Feb 19, 2011 9:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks for doing the eulogy, Matt.

Also for the contextual insights. Your word processor clearly has a ‘Flow’ mode others lack.

Appreciate the link to Chris Jaffe’s Evaluating Baseball’s Managers as well. Haven’t read it, looks tasty, and I’ve got some long flights coming up.

"That's the true harbinger of spring, not crocuses or swallows returning to Capistrano, but the sound of a bat on a ball." ~Bill Veeck

by LAASurfin on Feb 13, 2011 9:41 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Easy Matt

A guy dies, and you have venom for everyone.

by Barca on Feb 14, 2011 6:23 AM PST reply actions  

"Venom"?

I love Gene Autry, but he was not a competent baseball man, particularly in 1969. And I haven’t read a single account of Lefty Phillips’ tenure that didn’t underscore a profound yahooism.

At any rate, I harbor no anger toward anybody in Angel history (with the possible exception of Buzzie Bavasi); just trying to use descriptive words.

by mattwelch on Feb 14, 2011 8:45 AM PST up reply actions  

BUZZIE BAVASI

He doesn’t even deserve being mentioned on this site.

"Erstad says he's got it, Erstad...MAKES THE CATCH! The Anaheim Angels are the champions of baseball!" - Rory Markas, October 27, 2002

by Of Maicer and Men on Feb 14, 2011 10:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Tanner got his Chance cuz

A very good baseball man Roland Hemond who had been the scouting director (1961-70) for the Halos jumped to ChiWS as GM serving that role until 85.

Angels had some good people in the org just didn’t go about things right, and lets face it Gene went to the winter meetings trying to get radio and came away with a franchise. He was out over his ski’s from the start

by Angel Aviator on Feb 20, 2011 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Questions

1. Was there some kind of labor strife in 1972? I’m too young to remember, but it appears that nobody played anything close to 162 games.

2. I’m not familiar with Dick Allen’s career – why the “enabler” comment?

by jjackflash on Feb 14, 2011 2:11 PM PST reply actions  

1) Yes, 2) Tanner was widely seen as indulging a guy sportswriters found monstrous

Dick Allen was Albert Belle, only with some juicy ‘60s-’70s racial animosities thrown in. He used to wear a helmet in the field in Philly, because people were hucking shit at him. (He’d also write messages in the infield with his foot, like “slave.”) He up and quit on his teams a couple of times, sustained injuries that were considered outspoken, smoked openly in the dugout, and spoke his mind. He was also one of the best hitters to ever put on a uniform. Top 5 most controversial players in history, for sure.

by mattwelch on Feb 14, 2011 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Hmm

Thanks. Sounds perfect for Philly. I’ve heard of him, and that career OPS+ of 156 is pretty unreal. I’ll have to read up more on him.

by jjackflash on Feb 14, 2011 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

That's a very interesting brain-teaser

I think Allen still would, though. If Albert Belle, who never (to my knowledge) quit on his teams could be so universally despised, Allen still woulda raised eyebrows. Rocker would have been controversial in the ’60s if he would have directed his tirades toward teammates (a la Dixie Walker), as opposed to New Yorkers.

by mattwelch on Feb 15, 2011 5:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Was Dick Allen really the jerk he's made out to be?

Or was it a late 60s/early 70s white sportswriter thing? I’ve always wondered. I can remember when Dick Allen told the press not to call him Richie anymore, he incited the same scorn and subtle mocking from the press that Ali and Kareem did when they changed their names…it was seen by some as a radical political gesture.

I do remember when Allen played for the Dodgers in 1971, he didn’t have a stupendous year, but it seemed like he got a hard time from the press. My impression as a kid was that he was getting a raw deal from the LA sports guys, but I may have felt a lot differently if I knew of examples of his giving less than his best efforts on the field. As you say, under the wing of Chuck Tanner, Dick Allen was an absolute monster for the White Sox in 1972.

Dick also was an R&B singer and tax evader…my kinda guy.

by Zaius on Feb 15, 2011 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

He was by his own admission a big, angry, conflicted jerk

A lot of that anger & acting-out came from an understandable place, in my view, but he’ll tell you today that he was an a-hole back then.

That said, I am more than positive that white sportswriters did not help matters along.

by mattwelch on Feb 15, 2011 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Not really, no

Though he has since become totally beloved there.

by mattwelch on Feb 15, 2011 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Should Dick Allen be in the HOF?

The numbers he consistently put up in the pitching dominant era of the 1960s is impressive.

And if you compare him to say, Kirby Puckett….

by Zaius on Feb 15, 2011 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

He should.

But he never will be. The HOF voters care too much about people’s personal lives now—same reason that McGwire, Sosa, Bonds and Raffy will never make it either. Even A-Rod’s been jeopardized.

"Erstad says he's got it, Erstad...MAKES THE CATCH! The Anaheim Angels are the champions of baseball!" - Rory Markas, October 27, 2002

by Of Maicer and Men on Feb 15, 2011 8:28 PM PST up reply actions  

The character issues were real and shouldn't be overlooked

Bill James has written (paraphrasing here) that Allen did as much to hurt his own teams as any great player in ML history. He also arguably had the best rookie season in history, was placed in a pretty impossible position to succeed, was roasted by white sportswriters, and was a much better hitter than many people in the Hall of Fame.

Tough case.

by mattwelch on Feb 16, 2011 8:06 AM PST up reply actions  

The thing is, though, with modern-day guys...

Such as…well, let’s start with Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa. They both juiced, so people are going to look at Sammy with a very scrutinous, if not blind, eye. They hear “steroids”, think “cheater” and then leave the box blank.

But let’s re-evaluate this.

It’s 1998. People are still wondering if fans will recover from the strike. Nobody’s reached 60 homers in 37 years, and even 50 seemed improbable if your name wasn’t Albert Belle. McGwire and Sosa, however, were on steroids. An open secret in baseball. They clubbed a combined 136 homers during the 1998 season alone. Their chase to Maris’ record got fans re-involved, re-hyped, reinvigorated. It made people love baseball again.

Sammy and Mark didn’t stop after that. While McGwire wasn’t too productive after 1999 (in comparison to his early years), Sammy went eight more seasons with three different teams and clubbed about 300 more home runs along the way, landing himself in the 600 home run club by the end of his career.

If you still want to look at him as a steroid user, let’s put it this way—steroids were legal in baseball in 1998. They weren’t a banned substance. If the actions are retroactively legal (within the scope of baseball, at least), it shouldn’t count against them now.

With Dick Allen, yes, he truly represented his first name. But like you said, he had one of the finest rookie seasons ever, was placed in an extremely bigoted park in his early years (a reason Curt Flood avoided the Phillies like the plague), and had to basically hike up a cliff to gain good standing with anyone.

Character? Yes, people have their opinions. Should these opinions effect the facts? Absolutely NOT.

"Erstad says he's got it, Erstad...MAKES THE CATCH! The Anaheim Angels are the champions of baseball!" - Rory Markas, October 27, 2002

by Of Maicer and Men on Feb 16, 2011 11:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Big difference here

Allen quit on his team, and more than once. Like, walked out, retired, while there were still plenty of games left in the season. That’s a whole different animal than maybe taking a maybe-banned, maybe-not drug that helps you recover more quickly from weightlifting.

by mattwelch on Feb 17, 2011 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Been told.........

He would show up on Sundays smelling of booze tell his backup to be ready after the 6th, and hit a few missiles and head to the clubhouse telling the replacement he was in. You know who told this story Matt after all hes a former Lancer and big league manager

by Angel Aviator on Feb 20, 2011 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Really Nice Post

A great look into the past and some knowledge I was lacking. As always, thank you.

by JeffJoiner on Feb 14, 2011 4:37 PM PST reply actions  

Matt,

Thanks for this post and memorial to Chuck Tanner. It’s truly unfortunate that Mr. Tanner didn’t get that managerial position in 1969. As much as I have a personal affinity for Gene Autry, it’s difficult to argue with your analysis.

I had heard of the racial angle with Dick Allen, but I’d never really investigated. If what you write is accurate (condemnation of Allen with a wink and nudge for white ballplayers doing the same thing), then I hope those days are long gone. Double standards…I hate double standards.

Can any one team claim 6 future baseball managers? That is a phenomenal number. I’d love to know if any other team has ever yielded so many managers.

Finally, what this post does is remind me how many years have passed. I agree that early Angel history needs to be better documented. I only wish I had the time. Thanks again for a great post.

…and RIP, Chuck Tanner.

by sothball on Feb 14, 2011 7:39 PM PST reply actions  

Thanks, sothball

Read “September Swoon” for a more thorough airing out of the race angle in Allen’s career. For sure, he was permanently scarred by being the first black player to play minor league ball in Arkansas, a bit of pioneering that the Phillies organization did squat-all to prepare him for. And Philadelphia had some ugly race issues in the ’60s, with their ballpark becoming synonymous with urban decay/violence.

(As a tangent, I think there is decent evidence that the young Gene Mauch was unable to deal with talented & headstrong young black ballplayers. People generally don’t realize it, but that ’64 Phillies team had under its control not only Dick Allen, but Fergie Jenkins, Grant Jackson, Alex Johnson, Johnny Briggs, and a bunch of guys who mostly excelled elsewhere instead of delivering multiple pennants to a core that also included Johnny Callison, Rick Wise, and others.)

I doubt 6 managers on a team is a record, just given how many post-war Dodgers scrubs ended up managing in the bigs. But it’s also worth pointing out that that ’61 Angels team included future baseball executive Lee Thomas, future pitching coach Tom Morgan, and future longtime minor league manager Rocky Bridges….

by mattwelch on Feb 15, 2011 5:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Another layer peeled back, Mauch

Thanks for that nugget about Mauch but I have to wonder about how much the FO is responsible for bungling that core too. I’ve been aware how old school ways left the AL completely behind the NL in the 60s and 70’s, but that point about Mauch demonstrates the success and differentiation in the NL had within itself. right off the top of my head, I can see teams more individually now, looking at the NL success of LA, SF, and most importantly the Cardinals. Looking team by team in the AL, you see the Twins and Tigers get ahead in the 60s, and Baltimore as well.

by Rex Fregosi on Feb 17, 2011 8:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Halos Heaven is the Number #1 Angels Fan Blog according to QUANTCAST. Our Angels Fan Site is YOUR Angels Fan Community!

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recommended FanPosts

Morales-mainx-large_small
Albert Pujols – A Man of Faith
Small
Summation of the Angels 2012 season so far
Sinatra2_small
Sign the petition to end "Buttercup"

Recent FanPosts

Kendry_morales_small
The Most Frightening Word in Baseball: "Rebuilding"
Avatar_small
By The Numbers: MLB Starting Pitchers
Small
Angel Games Boring?
Angelmike_small
Terry Smith. You make the call.
Nick_small
Are the Angels the anti-Rangers?
Wrigley_field_small
A Serious top 5 of why Pujols is below the Mathis line.
Angelmike_small
The Top Ten Reasons Albert Pujols is hitting below 200

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >

Yahoo_full_count

Leaders of the Free World

4323_1105939621665_1622022962_290465_5300842_n_small Rev Halofan

Mostinterstingman_small cupie

Tn96_small WiHaloFan

Whammy10_small blast21dave

Fearless Crew

N1222371_8709_small scottnak

Halos2_small Stirrups

Anarangels_small Mayheminthehood

Cant-tell-if-trolling-or-just-very-stupid_small linkbruin

Avatar_small rghan

Alternate-club-logo-no-highlight1_small RexTookMyStash

Celebrity Chefs

306996053509_0_0_small PhiSlamma

Angelsbathroom_small mattwelch

Angels_ywc_album_small yeswecan

34_adenhart_small RallyMonkey5

Userpic-105-100x100_small Suboptimal

The_prior_art_cover_small Turks Teeth