"MLB 10: The Show" Update 2, Lineups
This thread could also appropriately be named "Why Lars Anderson is the greatest player of all time" thread...... but more on that later.
First of all, the game shown above is the greatest game of all time. I played the holy living crap out of that game and was the first instance of something I could beat the Pops at on a consistent basis. Now lets compare the graphics just a few years later:
A bit of an improvement.
"MLB 10: The Show" is quite a sophisticated tool, and is just close enough (with a few tweaks) to have a fun run with projections. So, I had a night where I didn't want to go out or do anything so I spent a few hours running multiple seasons worth of data, and so I made a fanpost about it:
Fair Warning, this puppy is long.
--Nerdy Adjustment Section Ahead, Feel Free To Skip for Stats and Such--
First of all, I had to tweak a few things. The rosters had to be manually adjusted from the last time the online rosters were updated, which is basically all of the free agent moves. I did about 95% of them off the top of my head and then double checked MLB.com for the smaller moves I may have missed.
Peter Bourjos' speed and defensive ranking were rated so low that they needed to be changed in order to properly reflect his defensive value to the team. I checked defensive comparisons to the rate of his dWar last year and adjusted for a fair amount of regression to non-godlikeness next year. His offensive stats remained unchanged.
Out of a possible 100, Speed was increased to 85, Baserunning Ability 80, Baserunning Aggressiveness 75, Range 85, Fielding 80, Reaction 80, Arm Strength 75, Accuracy 70.
Considering he was on pace for the best defensive season in center in recent memory I figured setting his stats to someone around a B+ defensive player would be appropriate. (The simulations came out as I wanted, Bourjos was a top tier defender but never won a gold glove, his presence in the everyday lineup gave the team speed and defense, which it sorely needed)
Another glaring change had to be made, one that would break the simulations if not addressed:
The game just loved Mark Reynolds and Adam Dunn WAY WAY too much. Like, "Holy shit are you kidding me!?" too much....
Adam Dunn
AVG HR 2B RBI
1st .286 55 45 156
2nd .299 58 60 166
3rd .279 52 42 145
Mark Reynolds
AVG HR 2B RBI
1st .303 51 50 130
2nd .313 55 49 141
3rd .298 53 54 133
So, yeah, what the hell is that? Both players won the MVP in their respective leagues each of the first three years, and it wasn't close. Other players were pretty much normal, with some outliers (Like Albert Pujols hitting 67 homeruns, but then 47 the next run through) but Dunn and Reynolds were absolutely redonkulous each time. It had to be fixed to maintain my own sanity.
Reynolds had contact lowered across the board and Dunn's contact and slight power adjustment was made to better reflect the three true outcome players they are. After five subsequent sims I felt comfortable with the outcomes of the stats.
--------------------End Adjustment Section--------------------
For the sim stats listed I kept injuries off (I started with them on and realized what an enormous pain in the ass it was and how little sense it made to keep them on), CPU trades on (The Red Sox love trading away Lester and or Lackey, like a lot), and everything else set to default.
The roster started as it probably will be on opening day and was only changed after injuries. Mike Trout does not exist for the purpose of these sims because I felt randomly making a dude and assigning him ratings based on how I feel about his talent was pretty much wild speculation, so I skipped it. We can assume Trout will probably not make a significant splash during the 2011 season (barring significant injuries or ridiculous play on Trouts part).
No trades purposed by the CPU were accepted as well as none purposed to other teams in attempt to improve the team. No free agents were acquired.
The 25 man is as follows:
A few notes here:
Lineup:
Abreu should logically lead off, thats exactly why Sosh wont put him at the top spot. However, I can see the value of breaking up the "punch and judy" hitters in the lineup from the start of the game. Torii Hunter has hit in front of Kendry Morales since he was called up, I do not see that changing. Vernon Wells as protection for Bam Bam should suffice.
Bench:
-Maicer Izturis at 3B in a platoon roll/starter
-Hank Conger winning the starting catcher spot out of ST
-Bobby Wilson being DFA'd and bringing a 12th man into the pitching core (Bulger most likely)*
-I just do not see a spot for Mark Trumbo as of right now, unless Wood is DFA'd.
*(Sosh likes three catchers for whatever reason. This is the most likely 25 man simply because the team is carrying five outfielders already and does not really need a sixth.)
Rotation/Bullpen:
-Trevor Bell winning the long relief spot from Palmer, and eventually taking over due to injury or Scott Kazmir being Scott Kazmir.
-Fernando Rodney is probably the worst pitcher in the pen. No one would be shocked if someone supplants him by seasons end (or hopefully, by the end of April).
-Hisanori Takahasi is basically a crapshoot. He will start some, set up some, maybe close some... sprinkle in some long relief and middle relief appearances and you have a utility bullpen dude.
!!!!PRE-STAT ADORABLENESS BREAK FROM TEXT!!!!
Ok, lets do this thing.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Here is a chart for 5 seasons worth of offensive numbers:
The first three sets of data used the lineup posted above. The fourth season I moved Bourjos to leadoff and Aybar to 9th. The result was pretty terrible, resulting in a last place finish for the team. The fifth set of data had me moving Aybar to 8th and everyone else up a spot, having Abreu leading off. The result was a tremendous start with a September collapse, with a loss to Texas on the last day of the season to give the Rangers the division and the Halos missing the playoffs, but it was by far the best team result. (Sure small sample size, but it was a noticeable effect)
(Note: The steal total is listed as x//y, where x is total successful steals and y is caught stealing)
Then I got to thinking: "Why run 20 sets of the same data when I can get HH user input and see how different moves effect the team?"
So, I will post this fanpost with the intent of leaving it unfinished until I get some scenarios in which you guys want to see.
-Want to see what Conger (who appears to be completely unable to drive in runs) would do over a full season over Mathis?
-Brandon Wood full season? Sure I can do that.
-What if we got Carl Crawford instead of Wells?
-What if we got Cliff Lee?
The possibilities are numerous and could be fun to check out. I can post results of the suggestions and fun will be had by all. Until then, lets break down the data I DO have. (Which I had to restart, the data I had before was lost due to stupidity on my part, hence five seasons instead of 10+.)
Observations:
#1) Erick Aybar should NOT lead off.
The man just cant get on base, like at all. With an average OBP of .314 its fairly obvious that his presence should be felt on the bottom of the lineup, kinda always-ish. What is interesting is that his two best sim years were had when I moved him to the bottom of the lineup (Years 4 and 5)
#2) Bobby Abreu should lead off
No real analysis needed here. Its just obvious.
#3) Check out Hank Conger's sweet RBI numbers.
The Korean Savior has LESS runs batted in over 5 seasons than Willits does home runs. Let that sink in kids. Although I feel these numbers are thrown off by limited playing time due to 3 catchers on the roster and the game's somewhat low rating (although his overall rating is higher than Mathis') I think this could give a clear precursor to the season. If Mathis gets 66% of the catching starts I could easily see Conger becoming Brandon Wood part 2. Sosh needs to start valuing young talent and doing his best to support and foster that talent. In my opinion the only thing that Mike has proven is that he can take over a roster of proven vets and win, his management of prospects (especially blue chip position players) is significantly sub-par until proven otherwise.
#4) Vernon Wells is a useful player, seriously.
I can easily see him nailing these projections of 24 homeruns and 78 RBIs with a lowish average. Even with those numbers he contributes a lot to a lineup that would be absolutely terrible without him. If you take out Wells and start the season you instantly realize that Morales' protection is either Kendrick or Callaspo. That is gross. Wells might be the most necessary piece this offseason after the front office missed out of Beltre and Crawford. 86 Million dollars or not, the team needs this guy.
#5) The bench is a weakness
Besides Mighty Macier (who was helped by having injuries off during these sims) the bench is literally the worst thing I have ever seen on any team ever. Two players are there not because of talent but because the organization is terrified of releasing them as it would prove that they have given up and have failed. Wilson and Wood just shouldn't be on the 25 man roster, period. The team can be so much more productive with two catchers and someone who can actually hit or play defensive coming off the bench in place of Wood. Willits is a decent replacement player for when he is needed, but is obviously nothing special. This team is one significant injury away from being 100% offensively irrelevant.
#6) The team needs a #2 hitter
This lineup is instantly more tolerable with Abreu leading off, however, has a glaring hole at the 2 spot. This season's offensive woes could be helped a ton by either Callaspo, Kendrick, or possibly Bourjos stepping up and being able to hit in the second spot with efficiency. If either of those three players can hit close to .300 and get their OBP anywhere near .340 while being able to situationally hit and move runners over then we could have a decent offense. Otherwise the bottom of the lineup will be four consecutive below average hitters in a row, which any team is going to struggle to win with.
#7) The team had a player drive in 100 or more runs only twice (Morales both times) and did not have one player hit .300 or above.
This seems entirely reasonable. The only .300 threats I see are Morales (depending on how he bounces back), Abreu, and possibly Callaspo. Thats about it. Kendrick is no .300 hitter, he just can't hit good offspeed stuff consistently. The current lack of anyone not named Abreu being able to get on base could lead to low or spread out RBI numbers, with an all or nothing offensive approach. Im going to have fun watching the team score13 runs one game then 6 runs for the next week.
#8) Bourjos' steal totals are pretty awesome
This is probably due to over adjusting his baserunning stats, however, of the 43 times Pete got on base in 2010 he attempted a swipe 13 times. 30% steal rates could easily lead to a 40+ SB campaign with any kind of offensive consistency with his speed. I see this as totally doable for the Borg.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Here is the pitching Chart, which is in a completely different format from the hitting one so I can keep you kids on your toes.
The years are from left to right, top to bottom row. I should have labeled them, but whatever.
Observations:
#1) Weaver is really good
Two years stick out especially, year 2 and year 4. Due to lack of run support no Angel pitcher won a Cy Young in any of the years (award winners posted below, including the amazing, godlike Lars Anderson's magical Cy Young Campaign.) as the game seems to base the award entirely on win totals. Luckily real life baseball has started to swerve away from this thinking as of two years ago, however the virtual realm has yet to embrace the concept of actual pitching stats instead of arbitrary, useless stats like wins. Either way, Weaver remains the best pitcher on the team and one of the best pitchers in the AL. I doubt he will hit a ERA mark of 2.16 anytime soon, however his average ERA of 3.19 is delicious and entirely within reason.
#2) Haren is pretty good too
The one two punch of Wearen (or Harver) is something that would prove deadly in the playoffs, especially in the short series. My personal man crush on Haren aside, the dude is good. I am excited to see what this duo can do in 2011 and is a reason to watch the team on its own.
#3) Fernando Rodney's puzzling stats
I was pretty convinced that Rodney would blow chunks in the closer roll, as his WHIP is appropriately high in the game as well. Now everyone turn your attention to his strikeout and walk totals. What the hell is going on there? The Great Sideways Hatted One averaged a whopping 31.2 strikeouts for the entire season. How someone can save 38 games while striking out only 25 dudes is beyond me, and its not something that was shown in only one year or two. Apparently Fernando Rodney became the ultimate contact pitcher and let only this video game know. How anyone can post a 1.53 WHIP when you only walk 19 people in a 42 save season is probably something we will never see in real life, like ever.... especially considering the respectable 3.45 ERA along with it in year 4. I just dont know here, I have no idea how to even analyze this.
#4) Scott Downs kicks ass
Just look at those WHIP totals. If Syndrome can come anywhere close to these beautiful stats I will look forward to every single appearance by this glorious, mullet adorned man. No further comments.
#5) Ervin Santana is going to completely suck
It makes sense, based on his real life patterns and it must be true because video games told me so. His average stats here (4.77 ERA, 1.49 WHIP) are right around what I kinda expect from Ervy. Be it elbow troubles or over-bobbleness of his head, I feel as if this year is going to be a disaster for Black Magic.
#6) I really like a Walden/Jepsen combo in the bullpen
There is just something so sexy about two power right handers looming in the middle relief role. The bullpen this year is going to be a strength, and if Rodney can post good numbers, a significant one at that. Walden cannot possibly continue his pace from 2010's ridiculousness, however, I have faith in Jordan Walden and Kevin Jepsen to throw the ball so hard that people holding sticks will cower in fear. Either one of these kids could easily step up to take the closer roll and its going to be fun watching high 90s stuff light up the board on a consistent basis.... in the 6th and 7th freaking innning.
#7) We are all going to hate Hisanori Takahashi
Tonka is going to be the Hideki Matsui of the bullpen. Every Mets fan I know has repeated the sentiments of Hisanori being intolerable as a starter but effective as a bullpen guy. HT's numbers against lefties are pretty impressive (.217 BA, .277 SLG against) and would be incredibly effective as a LOOGY in high leverage situations. Now, as Angels fans we can safely say Takahasi will almost certainly not be used in anyway close to that. Lets all watch in awe as Sosh runs this dude out against the Yankees in New York up against Jeter/ARod/ Tex in the 7th inning of a 1 run game only to get lit up like a poorly watered Christmas Tree in April near an open fireplace. I see a poor start, acceptable if not mediocre numbers from an asian player who will just not fit into the clubs mentality nor culture. By the all-star break we should start seeing 10-15 posts of TRADE TAKAHASHIT for ALBERT PUJOLS trade threads littering the board...... by the way, the game hates him too, 15 losses in the second year is justs hilariously bad, even with a perfectly reasonable 3.99 ERA.
#8) Im pretty sure Bulger is out of options
I looked around for about 10 minutes and was frustrated to not be able to find how many options Bulger had in a few seconds..... it is fairly safe to say I am spoiled by the internet at this point of my life. I think if I had to go to a library and look through shelves of books to research ANYTHING I would cry manly tears of frustration and laziness. Either way, Senior Video Game told me that Jason Bulger is optionless. If this is true then it could force the hand of management to cut Wilson, Bulger, or Wood to keep two of the three. In my opinion cutting Wilson, starting Conger and using Mathis as backup is the rational, sane decision.... therefore Bulger (the only one with true value) will be sent through waivers and picked up by Baltimore (yeah Im calling it). I dislike a 12 man bullpen when you can avoid it and it seems this team can run an 11 man BP, which is ideal. Plus the bench needs some serious help.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Standings/Awards/World Series Winners for each Simulated Year
Year 1:
Record: 80-82, Third Place behind Texas and Oakland
MVP: AL-Miguel Cabrera / NL- Albert Pujols
Cy Young: AL- David Price / NL- Cliff Lee
World Series: Red Sox defeat Dodgers in 6
Year 2:
Record 78-84, Second to Texas
MVP: AL- Jake Peavy / NL- Prince Fielder
Cy Young: AL- LARS ANDERSON*** / NL- Cliff Lee
World Series: Rays defeat Padres in 7
(More on Lars Freaking Anderson shortly)
Year 3:
Record 82-80, Second to Texas
MVP: AL- Longoria / NL- Prince Fielder
Cy Young: AL- CJ Wilson / NL- Ted Lilly
World Series: Yankees defeat Giants in 4
Year 4:
Record: 72-90, Last in Division
MVP: AL- Mark Teixeria / NL- Albert Pujols
Cy Young: AL- Edwin Jackson / NL- Matt Cain
World Series: Phillies over Yankees
(Note: Peter Bourjos was moved from 9th to leadoff for the entire year, Aybar to 9th spot.)
Year 5:
Record: 87-75, Second to Texas, lost division lead on last day of season.
MVP: AL- CC Sabathia / NL- Prince Fielder
Cy Young: AL- Jake Peavy / NL- Chris Carpenter
World Series: Red Sox defeat Dodgers in 5
(Note: Aybar moved to 8th, everyone else (save Bourjos) moved up one spot in lineup. Abreu leadoff)
Thoughts:
-Year one seems within reason, except for maybe the Dodgers making the World Series.
-Year two has Jake Peavy winning the MVP yet someone named Lars Anderson winning the Cy Young... which doesn't make sense in itself, especially so when I explain who the hell Lars Anderson is (soon I promise). The Padres make the dance this year, interesting.
-Year three has the two grossest Cy Young winners ever. CJ Wilion and Ted Lilly? Ewwwww. Everything else seems perfectly reasonable even if the Giants get swept in the Series, which I find hilarious.
-Year four has Edwin Jackson winning the Cy Young with something around 22 wins and a high 3 ERA. Stupid game. This is also the year Borg leads off, which spells disaster for the offense and the entire season.
-Year five was by far the most successful for the Angels with normalcy in the awards given. The Red Sox beat the dodgers for the second time in five sims, which is annoying. I would rather watch my own castration live than that matchup in the world series, seriously.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
LARS ANDERSON
In Year 2 CC Sabathia won the MVP award in the AL. Apparently when big CC wins the MVP the game freaks the hell out because it also loves donuts and award the Cy Young to Lars Anderson (this also happened in CommNate's #1 lineup).
This is what Lars' Cy Young year looked like:
I dont know who this kid is but anyone who can hit two home runs and NOT make it to home plate is someone we have to trade for, sounds very Morales-esk. I guess all the other numbers are impressive too, quite a pitching year for this young man.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Well CommNate, your first lineup provided a playoff appearance, nicely done sir:
Pretty much a kick ass year from everyone offensively, especially Bourjy. Pete actually cooled down as he was hitting .340 most of the season. Mathis had one at bat which resulted in a double, good for him. The Rays kicked some ass in the ALDS, didnt stand much of a chance. I REALLY like Callaspo in the 2 slot.
Round 2 wasnt as pretty:
Ewwy. Wells batted .323, which is sweet. And you got the totally awesome Lars Anderson bug on this season, which is awesome. Callaspo just doesnt hit as well out of the 2 slot, which is interesting. Ive noticed players preform significantly better in certain roles.
As for you, Downing Rules:
Your lineup was so bad that it caused not only a near-100 loss season but the Fing Rockies won the World Series. Thanks for breaking the game bro, gosh. Also everyone point and laugh at Mathis' stat, those are over 10 games and 22 plate appearances. *points* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
More to come.
This Fan-Post is authored by an independent fan. Tell us what you think and how you feel.
151 comments
|
7 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
YOU LOST ME AT "GREATEST GAME EVER"
Because THIS PWNS your greatest ever…

Hey Phi:
YER OUT!
I love this team.
Damnit
I knew I shouldnt have led with such a controversial statement.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
I loved this GEM
Abreu should logically lead off, thats exactly why Sosh wont put him at the top spot.
HAHAHA!
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Feb 4, 2011 2:05 PM PST up reply actions
Haha, Bases Loaded 3 was epic!
I played the hell out of that game on my Nintendo too. Except as a kid I never understood why it didn’t have real MLB teams and real players.
I also never understood the “bio-rythms” player ratings.
Wonder what a mint set of Intellivision Baseball overlays would eBay for?
;)
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Feb 4, 2011 5:00 PM PST up reply actions
My grandparents had one of those
They used it to lure me away from my parents. Sub Hunt was the best.
Sub Hunt: awesome
Also…
Star Strike
Sea Battle
BurgerTime
Locomotion
Night Stalker
and Triple Action
And have you ever wondered what it would be like to fool around with Ladybug..?
"I'm not really concerned about the Bill Jameses and the sabremetric people..." - Tony Reagins
I have them.
I have two Intellevision systems, a box full of games, and a bunch of eBay overlays.
They ain’t worth much. One of the systems still works (my oldest son got it for me for Xmas two years ago), but I don’t know how to hook it up now that I have upgraded my home entertainment system to all digitial and HDMI.
"I'm not really concerned about the Bill Jameses and the sabremetric people..." - Tony Reagins
I have a similar problem
My wife got me a old hand-cranked Victrola, but I can’t figure out how to hook it up to my stereo.
Rec'd for "maxbonerstorm" lineup card and proper use of hamster/gerbil thing
BTW: Holy crap, that thing has long whiskers…wtf?
Suggestions:
1) Abreu, Callaspo, Hunter, Morales, Wells, Kendrick, Conger, Aybar, Bourjos
2) Abreu, Kendrick, Hunter, Morales, Wells, Callaspo, Conger, Aybar, Bourjos
Can you add Chris Pettit to the bench instead of Willits? Is he even in the game?
Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.
Yeah he is, and on the 40 man
Ill do these two lineup suggestions with Chris Pettit in at around 6pm.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
Lars Anderson is a Red Sox 1B prospect
Lance Berkman= Awesome, CJ Wilson= Jack@$$
Minor League Ball's 2010 Rookie of the Year Poster
If you didn't know by now, my screen name is sarcastic
Is he as good as Lok van Mil?
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Feb 4, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
Let's put it this way, Downing.
Hank Conger is the Korean Savior. Loek van Mil is the Flying Dutchman.
Does that make sense? Not a bit, but it’s a stereotypically corny nickname.
"Erstad says he's got it, Erstad...MAKES THE CATCH! The Anaheim Angels are the champions of baseball!" - Rory Markas, October 27, 2002
by Of Maicer and Men on Feb 4, 2011 8:33 PM PST up reply actions
How about running this without Wells
Have Rivera in LF and Napoli behind the plate.
Good write up, I enjoyed it.
Took me forever
so thanks =)
Rivera and Napoli in, no problem.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
I wouldn't put Torii in cleanup
even he said until Morales went down last season, he had never hit cleanup in his career, and he isn’t a #4 hitter.
just my $0.02
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some douche named DFA from AN
by 2pintsofbooze on Feb 4, 2011 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
Who would you have bat 3rd?
I was stuck with the 3-4-5 spots. In my first run-through, I had Kendrick hitting 3rd, Morales, and then Hunter.
I'd go with
Hunter, Morales, Nap as the 3,4,5
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some douche named DFA from AN
by 2pintsofbooze on Feb 4, 2011 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
Better than I imagined when you first brought it up on that other post..
Great job, fun read!
by Howie's Batting Title on Feb 4, 2011 2:12 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Thanks
Im impressed you read this whole thing on your cellular device.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
Haha yup!
I’m at work, it’s not like i have anything better to do than to be on HH!
by Howie's Batting Title on Feb 4, 2011 2:37 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I think Wells goes in the 3-hole...
with Kendry at clean-up and Torii in the 5-spot.
I love this team.
Want me to run that?
Post your lineup suggestion, Ill run it through.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
uh, yeah.
Abreu, Callaspo, Wells, Morales, Hunter, Kendrick, Aybar, Mathis, Bourjos
DH, 3B, LF, 1B, RF, 2B, SS, C, CF
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Feb 4, 2011 2:17 PM PST up reply actions
Hrmm I like the look of that.
Ill put it on the to-do list for tonight.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
This is a "before" photo.
The “after” is NSFHH
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
Very cool post even if the next few years look scary.
We need Trout. 162-0 will be a disappointment after the Fishy Flash arrives. I feel Chuck Norrisesque jokes coming on…
The Devil went down to Georgia, and all I got was this gold fiddle. Go Angels! helpfindscottajob@gmail.com
Hrmm
Lets build a Trout and insert him into the lineup.
We need:
Contact v Right
Contact v Left
Power v R
Power V L
Batting Clutch
Plate Vision
Plate Discipline
Speed
Baserunning Aggressiveness
Baserunning Ability
Fielding Ability
Arm Strength
Arm Accuracy
Reaction
Range
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
All out of 100, 100 being amazing hall of fame type stat
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
We should be conservative. Just put 95s for everything.
"I’m not really concerned about the Bill Jameses and the sabermetric people." --- Tony Reagins
"No sh*t" --- Collective response on HH
I was thinking 92's
But if you want to go extreme, I guess we can.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
I was going to put 90, but realized I said conservative, not pessamistic.
"I’m not really concerned about the Bill Jameses and the sabermetric people." --- Tony Reagins
"No sh*t" --- Collective response on HH
Screw it
Im making a Super Trout with contact all at 95 and power at 80, everything else 99 and see what happens when I slot him 3rd.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
I am giddy for this
SUPER TROUT FTW
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some douche named DFA from AN
by 2pintsofbooze on Feb 4, 2011 2:48 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Just answer "Yes" to all of those.
"That's the true harbinger of spring, not crocuses or swallows returning to Capistrano, but the sound of a bat on a ball." ~Bill Veeck
good work Phi
I look forward to the updates
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some douche named DFA from AN
BTW
I’d love to see this done as if we had gotten Crawford or Beltre, and Napoli still on the team.
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some douche named DFA from AN
by 2pintsofbooze on Feb 4, 2011 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
Give me your Crawford lineup, Beltre lineup with napoli still on the team.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
You are soooo not going outside this weekend.
Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.
by Commander_Nate on Feb 4, 2011 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
All of my friends are in vegas
and my current Female Friend is in SD on a girls weekend. So its either this or NBA 2k11 My player mode.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
You must be stoked to have your freedom
Where in SD? I have to study tonight and do ish tomorrow, but after that Commander_Nate is going on a mission Sat night/Sunday. There is going to be quite a bit of shenanigans around where I live this weekend if past years are any indication.
Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.
by Commander_Nate on Feb 4, 2011 2:55 PM PST up reply actions
I swear to god I will pistol whip the next person who says shenanigans.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
Hey 2pints
What’s the name of that restaurant you’re always talkin’ about with all the crazy shit on the walls?
Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.
by Commander_Nate on Feb 4, 2011 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
Damn. I typed too slow.
"I’m not really concerned about the Bill Jameses and the sabermetric people." --- Tony Reagins
"No sh*t" --- Collective response on HH
you mean
shenanigans?!
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some douche named DFA from AN
by 2pintsofbooze on Feb 4, 2011 3:04 PM PST up reply actions
Hey Farva, what's that name of that restaurant you like with all that crazy shit on the walls.
"I’m not really concerned about the Bill Jameses and the sabermetric people." --- Tony Reagins
"No sh*t" --- Collective response on HH
ok
Abreu, Crawford, Hunter, Morales, Napoli, Callaspo, Kendrick, Aybar, Bourjos
Abreu, Kendrick, Hunter, Morales, Beltre, Napoli, Rivera, Aybar, Bourjos
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some douche named DFA from AN
by 2pintsofbooze on Feb 4, 2011 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
I stopped reading when I saw Jeff Mathis batting .286 one season
That’s shouldn’t be possible even in a video game.
I said the exact same thing when I saw the .286 season
I looked at my ps3 and was like “Dude you arent even trying anymore are you?”
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
What was Wood batting, .450?
Angels Baseball--"A collusion of one"-Sam Miller
by autry's cowboys on Feb 4, 2011 3:31 PM PST up reply actions
shockingly accurate
they must have called Sosh for Premium’s projected stats
Angels Baseball--"A collusion of one"-Sam Miller
by autry's cowboys on Feb 4, 2011 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks for the dinner time read.
What does our pitching staff look like with Bell as the #5. You can put Kaz in the ’pen, although I would prefer if he fell into one of these

NOT MY QUINNY!!!!
Kaz in pen as LRP, Palmer to AAA, Bell to 5 spot
Lineup the same I assume, done.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
Can we do one with Might Macier?
Sosh has already said that he has the best shot to be our leadoff hitter. Lineup as follows:
Macier, 3b
Abreu, DH
Hunter, RF
Morales, 1b
Wells, LF
Kendrick, 2b
Aybar, ss
Mathis, c
Bourjos, CF
Also, I think the same thing with Conger over Mathis would be cool.
Since Mathis is universally terrible
Ill rock this lineup with Conger in, Macier leading off.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
...it's MAICER, not MACIER.
I swear, “Macier” makes him sound like an arrogant, insufferable French prick. “Maicer,” on the other hand, is epic and representative of his physical stature.
Just my two cents on these shenanigans; that being said, I agree with a Maicer lineup.
"Erstad says he's got it, Erstad...MAKES THE CATCH! The Anaheim Angels are the champions of baseball!" - Rory Markas, October 27, 2002
by Of Maicer and Men on Feb 4, 2011 8:36 PM PST up reply actions
"That being said"
Just had to say that, didn;t you.
A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.
Unless you're Fox Sports, in which case it's "MAY-zer"
Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch
I want to slap Joe Buck every time he says "MAY-zer."
Seriously. He and Tim McCarver disgrace sports broadcasting.
"Erstad says he's got it, Erstad...MAKES THE CATCH! The Anaheim Angels are the champions of baseball!" - Rory Markas, October 27, 2002
by Of Maicer and Men on Feb 5, 2011 5:00 PM PST up reply actions
wow
Looking at the lineup again, that is a lot of swinging and missing in the 6-9 spots.
Great Post
Love the effort put into this… I know it’s just a video game and all but it’s fun to see the simulation side of the season.
Can we get one
with Scotty Syndrome as closer (inevitable, maybe one month into the season).
Lineup of:
Abreu
Kendrick
Hunter
Morales
Wells
Callaspo
Conger
Aybar
Bourjos
by lightupthehalo29 on Feb 4, 2011 3:10 PM PST reply actions
I kinda like that lineup
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some douche named DFA from AN
by 2pintsofbooze on Feb 4, 2011 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
Me too (obviously)
I think Howie could thrive in the 2-hole. He’s a better hitter than he showed last year, and he was still an above average 2B. While things fall of after Callaspo, this lineup would produce some runs.
by lightupthehalo29 on Feb 4, 2011 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
Did I miss anyone?
CommNate:
1) Abreu, Callaspo, Hunter, Morales, Wells, Kendrick, Conger, Aybar, Bourjos
2) Abreu, Kendrick, Hunter, Morales, Wells, Callaspo, Conger, Aybar, Bourjos
(Pettit to the bench)
WiHalofan:
Abreu, Callaspo, Morales, Hunter, Napoli, Rivera, Kendrick, Aybar, Bourjos
Downing Rules:
Abreu, Callaspo, Wells, Morales, Hunter, Kendrick, Aybar, Mathis, Bourjos
2pints:
Abreu, Crawford, Hunter, Morales, Napoli, Callaspo, Kendrick, Aybar, Bourjos
Abreu, Kendrick, Hunter, Morales, Beltre, Napoli, Rivera, Aybar, Bourjos
halofan4life:
Kaz to LRP, Bell to SP, Palmer to AAA
tizzidy19:
Izturis, Abreu, Hunter, Wells, Kendrick, Aybar, Conger, Bourjos
Lightupthehalo29:
Abreu, Kendrick, Hunter, Morales, Wells, Callaspo, Conger, Aybar, Bourjos
(Downs to CP, Rodney to SU)
PhiSlamma:
Abreu, Hunter, ULTRATROUT, Morales, Wells, Callaspo, Kendrick, Conger, Aybar
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
by the time you get home at 6
there’ll prob be like a dozen more.
btw, as annoying as he was, I really wish halowood was around for this thread. I would love to hear him argue against a PS3 and get all bent because he disagreed with it.
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some douche named DFA from AN
by 2pintsofbooze on Feb 4, 2011 3:24 PM PST up reply actions
The PS3's argument would probably make much more sense than Halowood's.
by ~MMP~ on Feb 4, 2011 5:20 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some douche named DFA from AN
by 2pintsofbooze on Feb 4, 2011 8:31 PM PST up reply actions
I'd like to see Naps at 3B and Mathis on a tractor
Angels Baseball--"A collusion of one"-Sam Miller
by autry's cowboys on Feb 4, 2011 3:28 PM PST up reply actions
pref John Deere
Angels Baseball--"A collusion of one"-Sam Miller
by autry's cowboys on Feb 4, 2011 3:29 PM PST up reply actions
Here's mine, Phi:
1) Bourjos (CF)
2) Abreu (DH)
3) Morales (1B)
4) Hunter (RF)
5) Wells (LF)
6) Kendrick (2B)
7) Callaspo (3B)
8) Conger ©
9) ANDREW ROMINE (SS)
Romine is terribly underrated. Plus, his last name amuses me.
"Erstad says he's got it, Erstad...MAKES THE CATCH! The Anaheim Angels are the champions of baseball!" - Rory Markas, October 27, 2002
by Of Maicer and Men on Feb 4, 2011 8:38 PM PST up reply actions
Romine is fucking amazing in this game.
Like instantly an upgrade over Aybar or any other SS in the system.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
Gives my lineup something to look forward to!
"Erstad says he's got it, Erstad...MAKES THE CATCH! The Anaheim Angels are the champions of baseball!" - Rory Markas, October 27, 2002
by Of Maicer and Men on Feb 4, 2011 9:46 PM PST up reply actions
Also, for the rotation:
1) Weaver
2) Haren
3) Pineiro
4) Santana
5) Takahashi
Kazmir to LRP, Walden sets up, Downs closes, Rodney’s gone.
"Erstad says he's got it, Erstad...MAKES THE CATCH! The Anaheim Angels are the champions of baseball!" - Rory Markas, October 27, 2002
by Of Maicer and Men on Feb 5, 2011 5:01 PM PST up reply actions
Interesting, 87 wins, first place, loss in ALDS to the BoSox.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
Nice!
Losing to the Red Sox in the ALDS…typical…but hey, 87 wins just for putting in Romine and Conger?
"Erstad says he's got it, Erstad...MAKES THE CATCH! The Anaheim Angels are the champions of baseball!" - Rory Markas, October 27, 2002
by Of Maicer and Men on Feb 8, 2011 5:06 PM PST up reply actions
So Vlad's officially gonna be an O.
Anyone care?
by lightupthehalo29 on Feb 4, 2011 3:23 PM PST reply actions
saw that
1 yr/ $8mil
Angels Baseball--"A collusion of one"-Sam Miller
by autry's cowboys on Feb 4, 2011 3:24 PM PST up reply actions
Nice job by his agent
Hope he helps cause some BOS/NYY losses.
Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.
by Commander_Nate on Feb 4, 2011 3:25 PM PST up reply actions
yea man
$8 million!? That seems a little much
Angels Baseball--"A collusion of one"-Sam Miller
by autry's cowboys on Feb 4, 2011 3:26 PM PST up reply actions
wow
dude thanks for putting this together. This should be added into the Encyclopedia Brittanica collection.
Angels Baseball--"A collusion of one"-Sam Miller
the bottom one
was my first baseball game too
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some douche named DFA from AN
by 2pintsofbooze on Feb 4, 2011 4:07 PM PST up reply actions
And it was awesome.
"I’m not really concerned about the Bill Jameses and the sabermetric people." --- Tony Reagins
"No sh*t" --- Collective response on HH
Can you sim what would happen if/when one of the old OFs gets hurt early in the year... I'm thinking Hunter will be out
So sim a whole season of:
Abreu, Callaspo, Wells, Morales, Kendrick, Aybar, Willits, Bourjos
—
I just cried thinking about it.
"I have something 95 percent of all those All-Stars only wish they had: a World Series ring. If I had to choose between that and being an All-Star, it would be no contest. I’d grab the gold ring and never look back." -Tim Salmon
Oh God
And I forgot to add Mathis in there. Now it’s even worse.
Abreu, Callaspo, Wells, Morales, Kendrick, Aybar, Mathis, Willits, Bourjos.
"I have something 95 percent of all those All-Stars only wish they had: a World Series ring. If I had to choose between that and being an All-Star, it would be no contest. I’d grab the gold ring and never look back." -Tim Salmon
OK
Scratch all that.
Move Willits to lead-off. Screw it. I’m shooting for the .400 OBP moon.
Willits, Abreu, Callaspo, Morales, Wells, Kendrick, Aybar, Mathis, Bourjos.
"I have something 95 percent of all those All-Stars only wish they had: a World Series ring. If I had to choose between that and being an All-Star, it would be no contest. I’d grab the gold ring and never look back." -Tim Salmon
Yes
I’m going all the way to the World Series on that lineup.
"I have something 95 percent of all those All-Stars only wish they had: a World Series ring. If I had to choose between that and being an All-Star, it would be no contest. I’d grab the gold ring and never look back." -Tim Salmon
Is it possible to put STL's GM on Reagins mode and trade Willits for Pujols?
"I’m not really concerned about the Bill Jameses and the sabermetric people." --- Tony Reagins
"No sh*t" --- Collective response on HH
for what it's worth
D mac turned out to be a very solid 3b on mlb 06: the show, the first game of that series.
If this is too late, fine, but if you can take this lineup, go ahead:
Abreu, Crawford, Hunter, Morales, Beltre ,Napoli,, Kendrick, Bourjos ,Aybar
2011 WS Champs calling it now. 7/29/10
JUST sat down to do it, good timing.
Consider this last call =)
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
perfect haha
:D
2011 WS Champs calling it now. 7/29/10
by AnaheimHalos61 on Feb 4, 2011 10:12 PM PST up reply actions
I don't know if it's too late for one more...but
I want to see one with our “perfect” offseason. With Beltre, Crawford and Cliff Lee.
Lineup something like:
Abreu, Crawford, Hunter, Morales, Beltre, Napoli, Kendrick, Aybar, Bourjos
Rotation:
Lee, Weaver, Haren, Santana, Pineiro
Bullpen with Kaz. with or without Downs and Takahasi. I’m very indifferent to that aspect.
Then a bench with Rivera, Willits, Mathis, Callaspo and whoever else.
"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen
Jesus that is one loaded ass team.
Working on it now.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
yeah. i felt moderately depressed typing that rotation.
and even more depressed typing that lineup.
could you imagine the tone of this blog if that was what happened this offseason?
"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen
Too much happiness
we would all explode from glee.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
Hey, Phi
If you’re really in to simulating seasons, the pros use shit like Diamond Mind and Strat-O-Matic. They’re horrible as games. About as much fun as playing a spreadsheet. But the simulation engines are a lot more sophisticated, and you can do hundreds or thousands of trials in a run. Plus, mouse and keyboard.
Oh, I know
part of the fun of this is using my PS3. Its like using an abacus to do calculus.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
by PhiSlamma on Feb 4, 2011 9:06 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
As geektastic as those hardcore sims are
I could just never get into them. Obviously I love me some stats, but the real fun of the game is knocking the shit out of the ball. Though I do appreciate that the sim engines running under the hood of the more recent action-type games have gotten more advanced. Must not be advanced enough if Jeff Mathis is still batting .286.
You finally said something I disagree with!
Strat-O-Matic rocks.
I understand it personal preference, but a game doesn’t stick around or generate the kind of fanatical fans for 50 years unless it is excellent. And SOM is excellent.
I have a different concept of a "game"
As a child of the eighties, RBI Baseball was my first example of a baseball “game.” It’s incredibly primitive compared to hardcore simulations like Strat-O-Matic, but I learned what fun was from Wing Commander, Civilization, Wolfenstein 3D, and NBA Jam.
I could never get into board games because my younger siblings could barely play Candyland by the time I was ready for Axis & Allies. I’ve tried to get in to Out of the Park Baseball as an adult, but I just need to have control over the players. Action is ultimately what excites me about baseball.
That game has a huge boner for prince fielder.
3 time NL mvp in 5 years?
Im picking up a PS3 when when this comes out… MLB2K is pretty weak and all I’ve heard is good things about the show.
Ever play online?
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
Try this,
Versus lhp- Kendrick abreu k mo wells hunter conger callaspo aybar bourjos
Rhp- aybar abreu kmo wells hunter conger kendrick maicer bourjos
bench- wood Wilson Pettit j Moore
Haren weaver pinero Santana kazmir
MR- kohn jepsen bulger takahashi bell
SU downs
CL walden
Brandon Wood 4 Prez
by miketrout on Feb 4, 2011 10:11 PM PST via mobile reply actions
While we are talking about baseball video games
I’m going to have to go out and say that I loved the N64 game “major league baseball featuring Ken Griffey jr”. I played dozens of seasons of that game with the 1997 angels lineup.
We're still gonna fly flags
by Sorbo182 on Feb 5, 2011 2:27 AM PST via mobile reply actions
That ball's going going gone
L-R-L-R-L-L-R
Automatic Griffey home run. I made the Angels the best team ever on my N64… and this was last year.
Sad thing about that game is the Angels are stuck with the stupid periwinkle unis and the Mariners are freaking loaded.
"I have something 95 percent of all those All-Stars only wish they had: a World Series ring. If I had to choose between that and being an All-Star, it would be no contest. I’d grab the gold ring and never look back." -Tim Salmon
Excellent work, makes me want to get a PS3, though my wife would probably divorce me
I hope Takahashi is used correctly by Sosh this year. And I think Santana will have a good year, I think he has matured and become a smarter pitcher. I don’t see Mathis ever batting above .225 for an entire season, more likely about .208 or so.
12/14/10 4:30 a.m. pst. I wake up to find out that Cliff Lee screwed over both the Yankees and Rangers. The world has truly become a better place.
If it isn't too late to try another lineup...
Abroo DH
Izturis 2B
Hunter RF
Morales 1B
Wells LF
Collapso 3B
Conger C
Aybar SS
Bourjos CF
"Ballplayers play baseball." -Jose Mota
Only playoff appearance so far...
Clearly I should be running the show. Calling Arte now.
Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.
You are somewhat premature.
Make that call after we finish 77/85 this season.
A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.
My lineup got ROCKED!
Ouch, 67 wins.
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Feb 5, 2011 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
You aren't the only one anymore!
I got 5 more wins, and to the ALDS.
"Erstad says he's got it, Erstad...MAKES THE CATCH! The Anaheim Angels are the champions of baseball!" - Rory Markas, October 27, 2002
by Of Maicer and Men on Feb 8, 2011 5:08 PM PST up reply actions
One more maybe?
Line-up:
1. Bobby Abreu (DH)
2. Michael Young (3B)
3. Torii Hunter (RF)
4. Kendry Morales (1B)
5. Vernon Wells (LF)
6. Maicer Izturis (2B)
7. Hank Conger ©
8. Erick Aybar (SS)
9. Peter Bourjos (CF)
Bench
1. Kendrick
2. Pettit
3. Willits
4. Romine
5. Mathis
by Nathan Aderhold on Feb 5, 2011 12:34 PM PST reply actions
Nevermind, scratch that.
Just looked at Young’s career home/road splits.
No bueno.
by Nathan Aderhold on Feb 5, 2011 12:43 PM PST up reply actions
His defense will make you wince as well.
Dude’s an abortion at 3B and a nasty contract.
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Feb 5, 2011 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
Oops, forgot Callaspo
Substitute Willits for Callaspo on the bench.
by Nathan Aderhold on Feb 6, 2011 11:33 PM PST up reply actions
Just to ensure you seriously have no life.
Abreu – LF
Kendrick – 2B
Morales – 1B
Hunter – RF
Wells – LF
Wood – 3B
Conger – C
Aybar – SS
Bourjos – CF
Bench – Mathis, Izturis, Wilson, Pettit, Callaspo
Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34
OK
I am finishing up everyone’s. Will post soon.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
Wow, cocaine is a helluva drug.
Peter Bourjos .289/.357/.456 (.813 OPS) , 9 HRs, 61 RBIs
Jeff Premium .286/.332/.432 (.764 OPS), 12 HRs, 56 RBIs
…..
and K-Mo with the Rod Barajasian line of .278/.289/.403 (.692 OPS), 26 HRs, 102 RBIs
ALL IN THE SAME YEAR!!!????
MLB The Show is whack.
"F it, let's pitch." - Ervin Santana
Anyone remember
Dusty Diamond’s All-Star Softball?
Classic goofball Nintendo game. Great characters and unique details.
I wish MVP Baseball 05 worked on xbox 360
That was the best baseball game of all time. WHYYY did EA have to give up their MLB license!?? It pains me to this day..
Jeff Mathis career: WAR = -2.3, oWAR = -1.5, dWAR = -0.8 , Jeff Mathis's bank account: $2,492,000.
Free Agency: 2013.
EA MVP Baseball was epic
Gameplay was awesome and so was the soundtracks. Agreed they should have never given up their licence, EA usually makes the best sports games.
I even got the EA NCAA Baseball 07 game after they stopped making the MLB games – the one with Jered Weaver on the cover in his Long Beach state uni!

by 












































