Jered Weaver Arbitration a Pause in Franchise Lore
by Rev Halofan on Feb 9, 2011 11:06 PM PST
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PrintUPDATE: According to internet reports, the Angels won this arbitration case.
Jered Weaver and the Angels had an arbitration hearing on Wednesday. Little Weave wants $8.8 million for 2011, his second of three arbitration eligible seasons. The team is offering $7.3 million. Weaver is going to take this one. He will be a free agent after the 2012 season but Arte Moreno has indicated that, even though he personally despises Weaver's agent Scott Boras, there has been talk of a contract extension and it is well known that Weaver loves SoCal, not that Village Idiot Tony Reagins should count on that meaning he can lowball the duo.
A look at Jered Weaver has already accomplished as an Angel can only make a fan of this team truly sentimental on behalf of longterming our current ace.
In Wins Above Replacement, Jered Weaver ranks 7th in franchise history with 20 WAR, in between Dean Chance's 19.5 and Mike Witt's 20.2 WAR.
Do you like old school stats? Weaver's Win Loss Percentage is 2nd all time for an Angels pitcher at .621 and his ERA is 12th all time: 3.55 Earned Runs Averaged over each 9 Innings Pitched. His 64 wins as an Angels is 12th all time in team history and he looks poised to crack the top ten regardless of contract extension.
I don't have to be Steve Physioc and give a ten minute dissertation on what the WHIP stat stands for but Rex, did you know that Weaver's 1.205 WHIP ranks fifth best in Angels team history? Wow Phyz, that's almost as awesome as his K thru 9 of 7.825 ranking fourth best in team history just behind three studs: Scot Shields, Nolan Ryan and Percy.
He is also TOP TEN in strikeouts with 779, ranking tenth and moving up the charts. His strikeouts to walk ratio of 3.091 is first all time in team history. Of the three pitchers ahead of him in ERA+ rankings, Troy Percival, Scot Shields and Kelvim Escobar each tossed at least two hundred fewer innings with a halo as Weaver's 896 Innings Pitched.
The only question now is not whether you will be bragging to your grandkids about having seen Weaver pitch here, but whether your kids will. The blank check in Arte's wife closet needs to be filled out on behalf of the hope for the future those kids should have.
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He's sort of like Andy Pettitte without the mediocrity
if he was pitching for the Yankees, there would be “best pitcher in the A.L.” debates with his name thrown in.
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Feb 9, 2011 11:11 PM PST reply actions
he led the league in strikeouts in 2010
despite BSPN never mentioning this … if a tree falls in the forest but not in Bristol…
If you ever get ahold of Neyer for another interview
you need to make him rank Weaver in the scheme of AL starters.
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Feb 9, 2011 11:26 PM PST up reply actions
For what?
I have never in my life heard an interviewee be asked about east coast bias in the press and have them basically say, “man when you’re out there, and the teams are so good, and you’re in Bristol, and the fans are so nuts, and there’s a party going on, you JUST CANT HELP IT!.”
Guarantee his answer starts with “Weaver, oh yeah…he’s in there”
"We are not on an austerity program," Arte Moreno
by thebigtizzle on Feb 9, 2011 11:33 PM PST up reply actions
actually Neyer kind of said about that
He admitted that being in NYC and Boston where there is a concentration of media and an intense fan culture all managed to influence how the sport was perceived.
They also help build a cycle
teams with more media exposure get more fans/press. They get more revenue. Bigger media contracts. They can afford better players…they can continue to stay good…and continue to receive that exposure.
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Feb 9, 2011 11:42 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah i appreciated the admission on his part.
It was a first. Still not an excuse, but we know we’re not just making it up.
"We are not on an austerity program," Arte Moreno
by thebigtizzle on Feb 9, 2011 11:43 PM PST up reply actions
I loved me some Jered Weaver last year
About the only jersey on the field worth watching by the time it was all over.
by Suboptimal on Feb 10, 2011 12:05 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
I love Weaver, but
I don’t see any way in the world the Angels will be able to extend or re-sign him.
Seriously, I think the Angels could offer Weaver $200m for 4 years and Boras would still say “I’ll get back to you” and then go work a deal somewhere else.
We have a better chance of keeping Morales
Most of the biggest spenders (Yanks, Red Sox, Phillies, Tigers) are totally set at 1B for years to come. There are also a relatively high number of slugging 1B around. However, every team in the majors could use an elite starting pitcher. That means that Weaver should be able to get something very close to a blank check, especially if the Yanks are pitching deficient in a couple of years.
The Angels, on the other hand, seem determined to avoid anything beyond a five year contract.
Yeah well, hopefully the fact that Weav
Has spent his whole life in cali.. He’ll have a little west coast biased .. I mean come on, even though he’s making millions of dollars he’s still living in his home town of Simi Valley.. You ever been to Simi Valley? I work there, it’s like a cow town! Ha
by Howie's Batting Title on Feb 10, 2011 5:54 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
I think Jered spends a better portion of his time in the LBC
Long Beach … His folks and childhood home are still in Slimy Valley.
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Feb 10, 2011 9:12 AM PST up reply actions
hopefully Tony doesn't read the blog
Weaver loves SoCal, not that Village Idiot Tony Reagins should count on that meaning he can lowball the duo.
I hope he does. That ass needs to read stuff like this.
"I’m not really concerned about the Bill Jameses and the sabermetric people." --- Tony Reagins
"No sh*t" --- Collective response on HH
Signing WTY to an extension is a no brainer.
He is worth it and only getting better. Part of being a fan is watching certain players grow old with your team. Not remembering when they used to play with your team. Weaver is that certain kind of player. The guy is a gamer and he has heart. I love every time he comes to the mound and scratches “NA” into the mound. It’s like he transforms from a good MLB pitcher, into a bad ass mother effer that you can’t help but root for. I want to see him an Angel for a long time.
I truly will be pissed if he ends up somewhere else after 2012. It will be further confirmation that the Angels FO has their head up their ass if that happens. Other teams are locking up their young studs. It IS a no brainer to do the same with Weaver.
God #@%^ Mother F@#$in' Reagins! You make Omar Minaya look good.
Jered Weaver is the most likely of our current roster
To sneak his way into the hall of fame. Let’s keep him in Anaheim for good.
"Jeff Mathis is like Robb Quinlan without the sex appeal" - Sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher
Well, the Angels won the arbitration case.
But is it one step forward and two steps back?
The Devil went down to Georgia, and all I got was this gold fiddle. Go Angels! helpfindscottajob@gmail.com
I agree
Was it worth it? I don’t think so. The Angels saved 1.4 million or less than what Mathis is getting paid and meanwhile they probably pissed off their best player.
Another head scratching move by the front office.
Pay the man what he wants!
How thick headed is our front office staff? Maybe its just Reagins? I do not know, but I do know that the Angels should lock Weaver up in a long term contract and be done with it. No Free Agency to worry about, no Arbitration to worry about next year, none of that. Just pay the Man and watch the fans be happy for years to come.
"To Halowood - Avoid the Clap." - Jimmy Dugan
by Angelsfan015 on Feb 10, 2011 10:14 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Definitely got a good point here
and this is one concept about this team we can all agree on I think
Trade Front Office
Please trade our front office including Arte. What a blunder. First they treat Weaver coming out of college like a step child letting him sit out almost a year before signing him, now this. Well Arte, Lackey’s words about you hold true for Weaver as well. Weav, other teams and other owners will treat you a lot better and with a lot more respect than the Anaheim traveling circus.
AngelBum
Or at least take them to arbitration...
We’d have mountains of data supporting the low-ball offer of $0.
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Feb 10, 2011 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
What did Lackey say?
I thought he just wanted to leave…did we screw with him?
"We are not on an austerity program," Arte Moreno
by thebigtizzle on Feb 10, 2011 6:16 PM PST up reply actions
Essentially that the team loyalty preached only goes one way, from the player to the team.
“It is different,” Lackey said, when asked about the Angels’ tendency to let their own veterans leave as free agents. "The way they preach the team game, the way you’re supposed to give it up for the team — that’s a little suspect.
“You’re supposed to give up for the team; then when it comes time, they might not want to give it up for you. But I was prepared for that. That’s the nature of the game today.”
"I’m not really concerned about the Bill Jameses and the sabermetric people." --- Tony Reagins
"No sh*t" --- Collective response on HH
There was supposed to be a link, but I guess I screwed it up.
I hit the link button, entered it, it appeared and then didn’t show up when I posted. I’ll try it again.
"I’m not really concerned about the Bill Jameses and the sabermetric people." --- Tony Reagins
"No sh*t" --- Collective response on HH
I'm lame.
http://articles.latimes.com/2010/may/04/sports/la-sp-angels-fyi-20100505
"I’m not really concerned about the Bill Jameses and the sabermetric people." --- Tony Reagins
"No sh*t" --- Collective response on HH
Wow.
Even though I didn’t think he was worth signing for a mega deal because I thought we had options at the time, he DOES have some credibility. Reading the article I can see his point of view a bit. Why wouldn’t you take a small hit to offer him some security, assuming you really wanted him? More than anything, getting a reputation for not re-signing guys is detrimental in the long run. I hope they learned from that as they negotiate with Morales and Weaver…
"We are not on an austerity program," Arte Moreno
by thebigtizzle on Feb 11, 2011 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
Weaver is So Cal
I for one can only see Jared as an Angel for life. He is from So Cal and went to school and has a career there. It is only fitting that he gets his long term deal to go with what he knows Angels baseball. I do see him getting short changed in the Arbitration deal but in the long run he is going to get his.
"As we strive for excellence never forget what got you there"
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