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AAAA Wonders: Introducing Jeff Baisley

You can consider him this year's Kevin Frandsen, Paul McAnulty, or Curtis Pride ––  one of the interesting career minor leaguers or woodshed whackers we pick up each season to fill a gaping hole on the depth chart. The current shallow part of the pool is at the infield corners, and that's precisely where Jeff Baisley has played most of his career, mostly at third base, where scouts rate him an above-average defender.

Star-divide

I had considered writing a FanShot about Baisely when the Angels signed him to a minor league contract last month. I had remembered him as a signature right-handed power bat in the Oakland farm system a few years ago, at a time when they really lacked in that department. He was a consistent bopper for the River Cats, but never quite took with the big club.

Now, as it tends to do with replacement-level players and MLBers alike, Salt Lake is making him look like a star in the early returns: in his first 27 ABs -- .481 avg / .500 obp / 1.000 slg. 4 HRs and 27 total bases in the first week of action.

Given our "depth" at third base is the fragile wood-sprite Maicer and human windmill Brandon Wood, Jeff Baisley is someone we're likely to see on the 25-man roster at some point. Like the AAAAers who have come before him, he's not someone on whom we can pin the hopes of the franchise, but if you want to nibble on the hope biscuit, here are his credentials: MVP of the Midwest League in 2006, he posted good on-base numbers and modest power numbers at all levels during the seasons he wasn't injured. He had one cup of coffee with the Athletics in 2008 where he hit .256 but only struck out seven times in 47 plate appearances –– nothing to write home about, but also not a dreadful premier for a righty power bat. He made contact.

He should put up big numbers at Salt Lake –– he's already hitting cleanup behind Chris Pettit for the Bees –– and will probably be flirting with the Angels bench by summer or early fall. 

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We need to Move out AAA team out of Salt Lake

the numbers are a lie

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by DAD OF VLAD on Apr 15, 2011 12:51 PM PDT reply actions  

This ^^^

Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch

by red floyd on Apr 15, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Plus, most MLB clubs have AAA closer to the main club. Oakland to Sacramento is 80 miles. Colorado Springs to Denver, about 100. Tucson to Phoenix, Fresno to SF, etc. Why the Angels don’t have a lower elevation AAA team in the sam time zone is beyond me.

by JeffJoiner on Apr 15, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

The DBacks AAA team moved to Reno (Aces) a few years ago. The team in Tucson is a placeholder for the Padres’ AAA team formerly in Portland, which will permanently relocate to Escondido in 2013. Tucson will be vacant in less than 2 years, Portland is vacant now, and the Jays’ contract with the 51s expires next year. I’d imagine they wouldn’t mind having a team a little closer to Toronto.

The Devil went down to Georgia, and all I got was this gold fiddle. Go Angels!

by Slasher52 on Apr 15, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man I hope the angels contract with the 51's

since I live in vegas, it would be great to be able to see some of the young guns for the angels franchise

Powered by Yankee lovers tears!!!!!

by semperfi1645 on Apr 15, 2011 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Keith Law said he would not let a prospect pitch in the PCL

I feel that is aggressive, but he hates that league.

Reggie Willits: The non-tender candidate of my dreams.

by hauldog on Apr 15, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is a good idea.

However, at least two things have happened in recent years:

The Arkansas Travelers moved to Dickey Stephens park, and immediately went from a hitter’s park to pitcher’s park overnight.

The Quakes moved to Inland Empire, which is more of league neutral park than most Cal League parks, much more so than Rancho. It’s basically a pitcher’s park in a hitter’s league, given recent park factor data.

So now we have a better mix of pitchers and hitters parks, with Inland Empire being close to the median, still a tad hitter-friendly. Orem and Salt Lake remain launching pads, however, and it would be preferable to be able to watch our bubble guys more close to home.

by Turks Teeth on Apr 15, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's a trend.

The Padres are building a new $50M stadium in Escondido and moving their AAA club in from Portland.

The proposed, 9,000-seat ballpark would house the sixth Triple-A team to play within 60 miles of a major league counterpart. The five other minor league franchises are located near where the Atlanta Braves, Seattle Mariners, Boston Red Sox and Philadelphia Phillies play.

Escondido is, what, 30 miles from Petco?

"If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base." ~Dave Barry

by LAASurfin on Apr 15, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Salt Lake has some of the best minor league facilities

in baseball. It’s easy to fly from LA to SLC (when doing the player shuttle like the Angels do).
It is not hard to discount inflated numbers plus the Angels have a long history in SLC —they were the SLC Angels in the 1970s. Plus, of course, I live only 2 hours from the Bees Stadium and I can regularly see games, so don’t move.

Angels in 2011!

by tanana40 on Apr 16, 2011 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agree 100%

I also live 2 hours from SLC

by Gokyle45 on Apr 16, 2011 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry, guys

No disrespect intended.

"If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base." ~Dave Barry

by LAASurfin on Apr 16, 2011 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is the defination of an AAAA player

someone that is better than triple A but not really good enough for the Major Leagues? If not, could you enlighten me?

Thanks

by Unclearnie on Apr 15, 2011 12:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Basically, yes.

A farm guy who is always “on the bubble” — often called up, often sent down. Spends years in AAA — never quite able to stick with a Major League bench, either because he is blocked by veterans, is sidelined by more elite prospects, or is intermittently injured. Often a combination of the above.

Most AAAA guys have one or two major flaws that prevent them from staying in the MLB — inability to hit breaking stuff, or general lack of power — or they are sort of good in every category, but not great in any. If not for the eccentricities of Angels management, folks like Willits, Wood and Mathis would likely be AAAA players, hopping from organization to organization.

It’s just a convenient way to name players that may play out their entire career in the minor leagues — as seasonal work instead of working at Home Depot or a construction job. They may play in other national leagues in Japan or Latin America, they may join independent leagues.

Occasionally they catch a lucky break and bust into the Majors for a year or two. Relievers tend to do that more often. Brendan Donnelly, for example, is a textbook AAAA reliever who finally broke through in 2002 and stuck for awhile.

by Turks Teeth on Apr 15, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

worst things in life then being a career minor leaguer.

respectable pay for playing a game.

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by semperfi1645 on Apr 15, 2011 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice post and thanks for the insights

Dude snuck in completely under my radar…

"If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base." ~Dave Barry

by LAASurfin on Apr 15, 2011 1:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Does that hope biscuit

come with hope gravy? If so, I’ll take a four pack please.

"Swung on and missed, he struck him out!" ~ Terry Smith

by blast21dave on Apr 15, 2011 2:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Regarding the PCL

There’s a major shift approaching. The Padres are looking to have their AAA team in Escondido (linky) as soon as 2013, with the former Portland Beavers/Tucson Padres moving to SD County. Portland still needs an improved ballpark before it can become a viable AAA venue (It was actually one of my favorite parks in the PCL, but it needs a major upgrade to the 21st century). Coincidently, the current edition of the Salt Lake Bees were originally from Portland.

I’m not sure exactly how Las Vegas plays, but I’d imagine that it’s homer happy like Salt Lake City. The Jays currently are the parent club for the 51s and their current contract with the 51s expires in 2012. Even though Cashman Field is a little long in the tooth, I can’t see a better choice for the Angels AAA team to be closer to SoCal. Unless…one of you want to build a ballpark in the IE.

The Devil went down to Georgia, and all I got was this gold fiddle. Go Angels!

by Slasher52 on Apr 15, 2011 3:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Portland lost there baseball field to Soccar

no baseball stadium in the city now

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by DAD OF VLAD on Apr 15, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

There was a public vote for funds to improve the stadium, but it failed. Out went baseball, in came soccer. Bummer. PGE Ballpark was an interesting place to see a game.

The Devil went down to Georgia, and all I got was this gold fiddle. Go Angels!

by Slasher52 on Apr 15, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re-affiliate with Lake Elsinore and add some seats to the OF or put a 2nd level in the infield

It’s already a pretty nice stadium in a relatively open area. At the very least, it would put an Angels farm team next to my parents’ house again and give me something to do when I go home to visit.

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by Commander_Nate on Apr 15, 2011 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

the wind there

would blow off the 2nd level
and i dont think old people like to fly

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by DAD OF VLAD on Apr 15, 2011 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds good to me, Nate.

I love Lake Elsinore, and was pissed when the Padres took over a few years ago. The only issue is that Escondido is a mere 45 miles down I-15. Having to AAA teams so close might not work.

The Devil went down to Georgia, and all I got was this gold fiddle. Go Angels!

by Slasher52 on Apr 16, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Baseball meant to be played at sea-level?

I guess that I don’t understand Keith Law or much of this thread. Baseball is baseball. I am not certain why it cannot be played at 4000 feet elevation or more. If we listen to ESPN, baseball should only be played on the East coast. This thread seems to indicate that baseball should only be played at low elevations. West coast bias?

Angels in 2011!

by tanana40 on Apr 16, 2011 8:42 AM PDT reply actions  

I'm with ya

The hardcores that follow minor league ball already understand how the individual parks affects the players numbers, just like different major league parks. I’m fairly confident the teams that have residence in those parks understand how to adjust the numbers and expectations, as well. It’s damn near impossible to make every park neutral. Besides, baseball is quirky and has been that way for almost 200 years. It’s part of the appeal that separates it from the other major sports.

by dmhead on Apr 16, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

It doesn't just inflate power numbers

If thin air only made the ball fly farther, it would just be a matter of statistics. But breaking balls don’t break as much at high altitude, because there’s less rotation pressure to push the ball out of its ballistic trajectory. The batters at Salt Lake are seeing flatter pitches, which doesn’t really prepare them for the major leagues.

I can understand how it would mess with pitchers too. If your breaking ball is flat, you don’t really get a feel for how it would work at sea level. A strike on the corner in Salt Lake might drift too low or too wide in Anaheim. You can’t stay in the big leagues unless you can get the breaking ball over.

by Suboptimal on Apr 16, 2011 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great post!

Love these stories. This is what baseball is all about. Plus, we are due to hit on one of these guys. Who is our last career minor leaguer to make a major impact? Brendan? I thought Curtis Pride would stick around a little longer. Although, I think he was 55 by the time he finally got the call.

Touch'em all

by THE VOICE on Apr 16, 2011 2:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Confusing to someone who may not be familiar with our beloved Angels
Given our “depth” at third base is the fragile wood-sprite Maicer and human windmill Brandon Wood,

should read:
Given our “depth” behind Alberto Callaspo at third base is the fragile wood-sprite Maicer and human windmill Brandon Wood …

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Apr 18, 2011 9:16 AM PDT reply actions  

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