Angels Barbycued in KC, Lose in Extras
The Angels battled back from terrible starting pitching only to blow a nice late-inning lead and lose in extras. FInal Score in Kansas City: Angels 9, Royals 12 in 13 unlucky innings. Royals take the series three games to one, and that one would have been a walkoff Royals win if a deep Alex Gordon foul ball had been about eight feet to the right.
On the great Mike Scioscia teams of the first decade of the 21st century you would rarely see the Angels score a lot of runs in a loss. they would get blown out alright and they would lose lots of close games where they scored three or four runs. But if an Angels team form 200-2009 scored seven or more runs, they inevitably won. Sunday's terrible extra inning loss in Kansas City illustrated just how un-Angelic this current Angels team is. They needed both a terrible start from Scott Kazmir, death by a thousand cuts from the middle innings bullpen leaking a run here and a run there, and then the second meltdown of the game in the 9th inning with Fernando Rodney blowing a save.Some of the isolated numbers are laughable until they add up to a highway of sobbing for our winning yesterdays. Scott Kazmir faced only fourteen batters and seven of them reached base. He left before the end of the 2nd inning. Fernando Rodney walked 3 batters, allowed one hit and only recorded one out.
Jeff Mathis reminded everyone on earht that he is a stinking pile of garbage masquerading as a human being. There were seven stolen bases in the game by the Royals. There were no Caught-Stealings. In Arlington Today, no Red Sox, not even Carl Crawford, attempted to steal off of Mike Napoli behind the Rangers' dish. And they were in a close game where it might have mattered. Thanks Tony Reagins, you are a sniveling worm.
When Angels announcers Victor Rojas and Mark Gubicza noted that Royals starter Bruce Chen was in his tenth organization in baseball, a glimmer of hope arrived. Down 5-0 they fought back tied the game and went ahead. The wind was blowing out and it was, after all, Kansas City. Well, they aren't in Kansas City anymore, having lost three of four games in the Missouri town of misery.
There might be plenty good to say about the Angels scoring nine runs, but with Chen and Wind and all kinds of missed opportunities, it is hard to be positive. A DFA of Scott Kazmir and Fernando Rodney would immediately improve this team, especially if it were followed by a callup of Matt Palmer and Trevor Bell, with Frankie-2 on standby in the Salt Lake pen. But it is going to get worse before it gets better.
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I request that the Front Office be another choice in this poll.
I’d vote for them one hundred times.
Years later, Clutch still needs to chill.
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by cardinalwraith on Apr 3, 2011 3:58 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Well...............it just might be time for me to realize..............
this is going to be a long season……………….
Glad I’ll be busy most of the time.
The score dictated they pass
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 3, 2011 3:59 PM PDT reply actions
100 possible, except our offense/defense is too good
But unless Scioscia gets his head out of his ass, puts Kaz in the pen, replace him in the rotation with Takahashi. No need to bring up Bell or Palmer and let Kaz work out his hit shit in the pen.
And NOBODY should be taking the ball in the 9th except for Jordan Walden.
Don't call me Bugs. Although Bugs Bunny could do it all on the baseball field.
I don't know about you
But I don’t want Kazmir anywhere near late innings. Come up with an injury and send him to SLC where he can’t do us any damage
I don't understand how we have emotions.
He isn’t from our system, the most noteworthy thing he ever did was get blasted in the playoffs. He hasn’t ever beasted on our team or on any team since 2008 or so. Are we emotional about him pitching well in September when we traded him?
"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen
Kaz = Mop up man
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by stuck in Romania on Apr 4, 2011 1:11 AM PDT up reply actions
FRodney
When I'm not at the stadium, I'd rather be watching my Halos back in Costa Rica!
by Dono Romantico on Apr 3, 2011 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions
KazRod...failure beyond recognition
Whatever, dude.
by Mayheminthehood on Apr 3, 2011 3:59 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
KAZ AND FROD
should have to share this equally.
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F-Rod
No contest.
The Angels are ill-served by a front office that willfully disregards both modern and classic performance measurements when it comes to Jeff Mathis. Astonishing, and nearly unforgiveable.
Well, crap.
At least we have a day to recover before we do this again, huh?
"To Halowood - Avoid the Clap." - Jimmy Dugan
Holy shit is Rodney terrible.
Fuck Rodney. He needs to go away.
Tim Salmon: The once and future Kingfish.
by Teixeira Who? on Apr 3, 2011 4:00 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
maybe if he could put on his hat straight
that would be a start.
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by Dono Romantico on Apr 3, 2011 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions
2 of them
directly let 4 runs cross
Somewhere, right now, Mickey Hatcher is ruining a swing.
by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Apr 3, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
tori hunter 1/7
8 LOB
Somewhere, right now, Mickey Hatcher is ruining a swing.
by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Apr 3, 2011 4:01 PM PDT reply actions
Fangraphs:
Puts Rodney at -.750. Amazing.
In second is Torii and his 1-7 with a -.452
Ok, seriously.
Wood, Petit, Conger, Wilson, Aybar.
Why wasn’t one of those guys put in at some point?
If they can’t hit well enough to pinch hit (say, for Mathis, who is hitting .150 this season) then they shouldn’t be on a MLB roster, period!!!!
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Fair enough.
Didn’t Wood even hit better than that last season?
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by matthiasstephan on Apr 3, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
aybar has a sore left side
Somewhere, right now, Mickey Hatcher is ruining a swing.
by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Apr 3, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
My comment goes to Soth
not Aybar. Didn’t hear that he was injured, but the point is, why in 14 innings don’t you pinch hit/run, ever?
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by matthiasstephan on Apr 3, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
i dont know the answer to that one
scioscia is convinced the only person that can catch for this team is mathis, and it’s been apparent for years that his arrogance and hard head will not listen to reason or logic. he wasn’t this bad when bud black and maddon were around.
Somewhere, right now, Mickey Hatcher is ruining a swing.
by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Apr 3, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree
The Angels have 3 catchers there is no reason not to pinch hit for Mathis.
the good thing is that our starting pitching last
1.2 innings
BLOG – Kazsucki
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Who knew that playing Kitten Cannon would make you feel calmer ater a loss like this?
It does though!
"To Halowood - Avoid the Clap." - Jimmy Dugan
Ahh
I know it is only early April, but we either need to make a drastic change or we might as well have a f’ing firesale…
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
YES!
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by Dono Romantico on Apr 3, 2011 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Scioscia.
Not voting for the above choices. This is on Mike and his atrocious roster management, his roleplaying, and his egregious stupidity.
If Rodney isn’t closing, this isn’t an issue.
by Turks Teeth on Apr 3, 2011 4:02 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Blame of the Game
Not Bulger. Guy was over 50 pitches.
I wrote this when the season-opening roster was announced: “I’m kinda surprised that they are carrying three catchers and only eleven pitchers to start the year. I know there are a couple of off days, but starters aren’t ready to go deep into ballgames at this point. I was sure Matt Palmer would be in the bullpen mix, especially considering that Kazmir will be starting on Sunday. They’re going to go deep into the bullpen.”
Also wrote this: “Let’s assume that Kazmir has thrown 100 pitches by the 4th inning on Sunday (or is otherwise just stinking up the joint), and because of limited pitch counts on the other guys, the Soth has already used everyone in the bullpen at some point in the first three games of the season. It would be nice to have Palmer around to give you two or three innings at that point.”
Of course, we have no idea what would have happened. Maybe Palmer would have given up another 5 runs and this game would have been over in 9 innings. But Conger didn’t play at all (unless I missed it) in the first 4 games, and they sure could have used Palmer today.
by jjackflash on Apr 3, 2011 4:02 PM PDT reply actions 4 recs
I saw that, and I was right with you in that thread, flash.
“It’d be easy to send Conger to AAA and keep Palmer up so as not to overwork our pen at the beginning of the season, like we did last season — to terrible results.”
But here we are again, repeating the same mistakes, the same way.
And with a closer who blew ONE IN THREE SAVES last season. How can Sscioscia not learn?
Yeah, but he saved Thompson for that...
The bigger issue is only having guys throw 1/3 of an inning. Like Kohn. There is no reason to limit a guy to the last out of an inning. He has already warmed up. Giving him 28 pitches instead of 12 is foolish.
Scioscia is definitely loosing his luster, and I kinda can’t stand him, but this isn’t a huge deal. Of course, him not USING a backup catcher is a problem. But 11 pitchers should be enough if he manages the pen appropriately.
RIP Nick...
Jim Scully
Jim Scully Home
I can't believe we have 158 more games to go
This is going to be brutally long season
i predict
1-160
one game rained out
thank god for that
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by stuck in Romania on Apr 4, 2011 1:19 AM PDT up reply actions
five runs in less than two innings
Yup Kaz all the way.
by oceangate316 on Apr 3, 2011 4:04 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Nope
Angels bailed him out (surprisingly) but when you walk the bases loaded and FAIL, yeah Fraudney this one’s on you
Light up that cactus / dumpster / halo!!
If Kaz doesn't blow it
game would’ve been a blowout. Kaz blew it imo. Those free passes were ridiculous though…
by oceangate316 on Apr 3, 2011 4:11 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
tough cheering for a team with loads of money, run by complete fucking idiots.
we were supposed to be known as the westcoast YANKEES, not mets.
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
by clover_black on Apr 3, 2011 4:04 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
What a waste of tremendous games by Izzy, Howie, Abroo and Collapso
all for naught
"Ballplayers play baseball." -Jose Mota
Error at the beginning of the 13th
His own, BTW.
Years later, Clutch still needs to chill.
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by cardinalwraith on Apr 3, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
But wouldn't the run scored on the home run still be charged on him?
Jeff Mathis Batting Average Watch: .154
Weren't there 2 outs at that point?
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by matthiasstephan on Apr 3, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
There were 2 outs, so at that point any run to cross the plate is considered unearned…since there should have been 3 outs already recorded
I hate to admit it being a big fan of sosh
but it seems like his message really isn’t working anymore (the team just looks so sloopy). Every coach reaches a point where they become less effective and this may be that point where he should go somewhere else and we should have new leadership.
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I agreed with you 100% up to...
he should go somewhere else and we should have new leadership
I’m not going THAT far just yet.
Scioscia needs to go back to the drawing board and make a change in his philosophy.
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Apr 3, 2011 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Philosophies can change
But habits… that’s another story. Based on how fat Mike is I’m gonna go out on a limb and say he’s no stranger to bad habits.
my signature sucks
For a guy often celebrated as baseball's Aristotle
That is easier said than done. He’s not going to change. The only thing to do is fire him or diminish his influence in the organization. I’d go with the latter.
That's going to require Arte manning up and acting like a majority stakeholder.
Which starts with getting a smart, imposing GM with a personality and some drive — who has the power to overrule Scioscia.
I still don’t know how Tony and Mike got him to roll over like a bichon frise at the puppy bowl and piss out $81M on a shirt filled with straw just days after moaning about the price of Beltre.
Groupthink
None of us is as dumb as all of us.
By the way, Turk, what’s your name doing at the bottom of the page? It wasn’t there a few hours ago.
Hah, that's the first I noticed it.
I did see a magic frontpage checkbox a couple days ago and exercised the option.
I thank you for that — and I owe you a call. Sorry — my week filled up with cruft quickly.
I’ll need that moniker “author” soon enough.
on the brighter side
bulger didn’t give up a grand slam today
Somewhere, right now, Mickey Hatcher is ruining a swing.
by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Apr 3, 2011 4:05 PM PDT reply actions
rangers have a better hitting squad
and a much better bullpen
their crack smoking manager isn’t as dumb as ours at the moment
Somewhere, right now, Mickey Hatcher is ruining a swing.
by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Apr 3, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
pass the pipe to Sosh then to Tony.
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by Dono Romantico on Apr 3, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
The Royals pen looked good before today, and pitched out of tough situation after tough situation.
I know that the Royals aren’t exactly baseball’s chosen ones, but I wonder if we wouldn’t have gone at least 2-1 against the Sox while the Rangers would have gone 1-3 or 2-2 against these Royals this week.
Basically I’m ready to face a new team (after a day off to recover), and I expect the next time we face the Royals they’ll have fallen back to earth and we’ll have picked up some momentum again. It kills me to lose 3/4 to start the season, but now we move on.
Can't even listen to post game show on the radio.
Too depressing.
"To Halowood - Avoid the Clap." - Jimmy Dugan
If I was the owner
Rodney & Kazmir and Butcher would be gone tonight
Jeff Mathis Batting Average Watch: .154
If I was the owner
instead of signing Rodney, I would’ve signed Valverde 2 years ago.
by phoenix15 on Apr 3, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Butcher needs to go
ever since he stepped in our bullpen has gone to shit….correlation?
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SOME GOOD NEWS:
This is the last year of Fernando Rodney’s contract.
HURRAH!
Years later, Clutch still needs to chill.
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by cardinalwraith on Apr 3, 2011 4:07 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Reagins will just go out and get more garbage
by ChargerBill on Apr 3, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
at a higher dollar figure.
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Apr 3, 2011 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
and lose picks
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by stuck in Romania on Apr 4, 2011 1:25 AM PDT up reply actions
and the first year of Vernon Well's
All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine.
by Quad Fin Rider on Apr 3, 2011 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions
we still got a few more years of Kaz too
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thank god no
12:$13.5M club option ($2.5M buyout)
rec
turn it green
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Bill McDonald and Jose Mota make complete sense
because I have them on MUTE.
by Rev Halofan on Apr 3, 2011 4:07 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
They are FUNNY on mute...
because all I “hear” Billy Mac saying when his lips are moving is “12-year-old, blonde” over and over. It’s hysterical.
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Apr 3, 2011 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe this is where having a secondary NL team will make the season less depressing...
Go Giants?
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I hate the dodgers.....
so i do tend to root for the giants…plus they have an awesome stadium
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I've been in the Bay Area for awhile, so I have a soft spot for them.
Plus, any enemy of the A’s is a friend of mine.
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by cardinalwraith on Apr 3, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
no
fuck all other teams
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by DAD OF VLAD on Apr 3, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
I have a friend that has been badgering me into being a Phillies fan
I might accept.
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by Greyson Peltier on Apr 3, 2011 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
do it
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by DAD OF VLAD on Apr 3, 2011 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
can he take you with him?
;)
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Apr 3, 2011 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
hell no
i will die an Angels fan
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by DAD OF VLAD on Apr 3, 2011 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
i love you man!
I actually had more fun watching the 1986 ALCS game 5 on MLB network (instead of Kazmir’s first shit-the-bed innings)…
They had Grich, Hurst and Hendu talking about the game. Awesome to hear some of the stories they told. What a heartbreak of a game, worse than the pain from today, so today didn’t hurt me all that bad.
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Apr 3, 2011 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
This game was a complete waste of life.
Not an enjoyable team to watch. $140M of waste.
by Turks Teeth on Apr 3, 2011 4:09 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
there isn't one "must watch" hitter on the team
i like to watch haren, weaver, walden pitch.
i like howie more than any other hitter on the team with morales out.
it’s just a waste of payroll though, for the most part.
it’s alright though, i’ve watched much shittier looking angels squads than this, and survived. At least they have 3 good starters currently.
Somewhere, right now, Mickey Hatcher is ruining a swing.
by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Apr 3, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
The Mets of the AL West
Lots of payroll invested in bad, aging players, some of whom aren’t even in baseball anymore.
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by scareduck on Apr 3, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Harsh, and deserved
The Angels are in denial about the talent they’ve accumulated. It isn’t good enough, and it’s way too expensive.
by mattwelch on Apr 3, 2011 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow
only 3 HH’ers scored today. Sounds like how the halos did today
Light up that cactus / dumpster / halo!!
I guess MLB-TV was pretty smart
in having a policy of no refunds on the unused part of the subscription.
Next year I am going to claim that $119.99 as a gift to a charity since the Angels seem to be giving everything to those with lesser means.
AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH We could have been 4 – 0 with a bull pen like we used to have.
sadly, i have a feeling these 3 tough losses won't matter in the end
Somewhere, right now, Mickey Hatcher is ruining a swing.
by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Apr 3, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Anyone who uses Twitter:
I recommend we start #firereagins as a meme. We need a new GM, stat.
Years later, Clutch still needs to chill.
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follow me and i will fire him myself
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by DAD OF VLAD on Apr 3, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm tweeting this page w/ such hashtag
http://www.twitter.com/GreysonNation
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by Greyson Peltier on Apr 3, 2011 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Like.
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by cardinalwraith on Apr 3, 2011 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
yes
and the newer guys did well for the most part (Takahashi, Walden & Thompson). The biggest addition (Downs) hasn’t pitched yet. So, the bullpen may very well be improved. A major problem is with how it’s being used.
Manager of the Year?
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by Dono Romantico on Apr 3, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
same number of blown saves this year
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Burning At Stake>Drawing and Quartering?
The Angels are ill-served by a front office that willfully disregards both modern and classic performance measurements when it comes to Jeff Mathis. Astonishing, and nearly unforgiveable.
by LittleCupcakes on Apr 3, 2011 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Or from a glass half empty approach...
…Hitting is good (but it is against KC so will probably regress)
Bullpen is woeful (and it’s still against KC so will probably get worse)
Lose and, if you will, lose
I see red people
We scored 9 runs in 3 games against shite pitchers
Put up a 9-spot with the wind blowing against Bruce Chen. Not impressed. We’ll look terrible once we actually face a good pitcher.
by mattwelch on Apr 3, 2011 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
PLUS, I think the Royals don’t win another series for the next MONTH…
They were facing a clearly weaker opponent, our beloved Angels.
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Apr 3, 2011 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
agreed.
the runs today were smoke and mirrors. hopefully i’m proven wrong, but I don’t suddenly forget the same offense putting up a 1 spot against jeff f’n francis.
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
Continuing to spiral downward since the end of the 2009 season.
Thank you F.O. and thank you Arte Moreno.
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Looks like I picked a good day to spend at church.
Trust the Deception
by Rally Manatee on Apr 3, 2011 4:38 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Pray harder next time...
…it wasn’t enough
I see red people
by The Limey on Apr 3, 2011 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
How many more starts is Kazmir going to get?
His career is over. Hopefully the Angels don’t wait until July to realize that.
Fernando Rodney is garbage. Let Walden close. Hell, give the job to anyone besides that sideways hat wearing moron.
And Vernon Wells. God. If he doesn’t lead to the firing of Tony Reagins, nothing will.
I've got nothing.
by bc56274 on Apr 3, 2011 4:39 PM PDT reply actions 5 recs
until revenue losses are greater than his salary.
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by Dono Romantico on Apr 3, 2011 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
They'll wait until he's 1-11
That’s basically how long they waited with WTE. SInce it’s Kazmir, they’ll probably wait until 1-15 to make sure he can “figure things out.”
Turn the page.
Light up that halo! RIP, Nick.
My over/under for his last start
May 15, or whatever the closest start would be to that date.
Witty .sig goes here.
Rodney needs to be DFA'd.
Getting him out of the “closer” role will only move to the problem to the 7th or 8th. Runs are runs, no matter the inning.
DFA rodney, DFA kaz, bring in bell and palmer.
I’m guessing the reason these two haven’t lost their jobs is because the FO wants to save face. Not sure how you can save face with the production they’re getting from these two.
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
Soth won't let it happen
Soth manages based on every player having a role. He may, at some point, move Rodney out of the closer role – but there’s no way he is DFA’d during the season.
Well, of course he won't.
What SHOULD happen and what will happen are two entirely different situations.
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
Awesome post...
you are usually ultra-negative, but I am seriously on board for your justified downer-ism today.
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Apr 3, 2011 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Unfair accusation.
I’m only negative when there’s nothing to be positive about.
You should’ve seen me in 2002. I was doing the Irish jig!
I've got nothing.
haha!
Okay, I’ll give you that! ;)
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Apr 3, 2011 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
can someone people prevent him from ever throwing for the angels again
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He has been obviously finito since early last year
This is a team punishing its fans for the sins of its front office. There’s no excuse for it, and it reflects badly on each and every person who is part of the decision tree. Kazmir hasn’t belonged in the Major Leagues for a season now, and throwing him out there is admitting you expect to lose. Disgraceful.
by mattwelch on Apr 3, 2011 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I neglected to buy tickets when individual games went on sale...
i am strongly considering not going to ANY games, even when the diamond club is down to sub-$10 price range.
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Apr 3, 2011 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
In at least four different positions
Catcher, LF, 2B, and SS (at least offensively).
Witty .sig goes here.
But, Wells is making a lot of money.
He must be good!
I wanted to see Walden close too...but...
We need Walden, Thompson, Downs throwing the high leverage innings. If hats the 7th or 9th should matter.
If Scioscia would have let Kohn throw the 8th too, the Walden throws the 9th. Both high leverage situations. But committing to Rodney in the 9th forces the better arms earlier into the game regardless of situation.
RIP Nick...
Jim Scully
Jim Scully Home
Reagins won't get fired during the season
Arte just won’t do it, regardless of how many games are lost.
Join the revolution, everyone:
Use the #firereagins hashtag, like so:
http://twitter.com/#!/payoffpitchblog/status/54691164883918848
Years later, Clutch still needs to chill.
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You're cool.
I’m gonna call you cool-o…
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by maze88 on Apr 3, 2011 5:11 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Chill wraith, chill!
Man I was wondering if I would ever get to say that.
But you’re probably right.
Light up that halo! RIP, Nick.
They are how topics
start trending. Basically it highlights the word or subject and causes it to become a searchable topic.
I play music for your entertainment
AT this point it is clearly overwhelmingly apparent
That if this team expects to win this year, Rodney needs to lose his closer job. We are going to see game after game after repeated where after our offense puts it all on the line, Rodney comes in and blows the save. We don’t need an entire month of evaluation to see this. HE has to go and he has to go now.
On the positive side
Weaver and Haren are nails
Kendrick is off to a great start
Bourjos has looked great with the glove
Walden and Thompson have performed well out of the pen
Izturis is not injured after four games and is looking good
by mustard_man on Apr 3, 2011 5:04 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
flagged for being positive
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
by clover_black on Apr 3, 2011 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
rec'ed for flagging hope
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ok, I feel a little better now.
no you dont
game 4 of the season and we suck
bullpen sucks
kaz sucks
slap hitting infield sucks
and the hot beer sucks
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2011 Angels: The suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked
Thank you Homer Simpson.
by aces666high on Apr 3, 2011 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
the slap hitting infield got all our hits
it’s the supposed power hitters who suck, ie Torii and Ernest
"Ballplayers play baseball." -Jose Mota
I will say the slap hitting infield has NOT
been the problem.
Howie, Izzy, Callaspo, Aybar and Trumbo have combined for 14 XBH in 4 games. It’s been that we are paying Kaz, Wells, and Fraudney a boatload of money to be worse than replacement players.
What is Sosh
Seeing that we aren’t? Hasn’t Kaz sucked long enough to at least move him to the bullpen or down to AAA? Or if he’s out of options release him? And why isn’t Walden closing yet? Seem’s he’s pretty much our only reliable bullpen arm…
See, Kaz was ONCE GREAT
Therefore, he must be great again—if we just give him enough starts to let him figure himself out. I think that’s the thinking.
Light up that halo! RIP, Nick.
That said, it's one start.
As much as it sucked, and even with last season, I can see the logic in not giving up on him after the very first start of the season. If Kendry comes back and hits .200 for a month we’re not going to be calling for his head. That said, I say one more start and Kazmir’s done.
Light up that halo! RIP, Nick.
Ah yes, the Mike Witt syndrome
A once solid starter completely falls off the cliff for one reason or another and the desperate team continues to throw him out there hoping he finds that lost(used up)magic. Kazmir’s gonna get a few more starts, so brace yourselves.
Ah yes, the "Kazmir will figure it out theory"
We have dismissed that claim.
Light up that halo! RIP, Nick.
Unfortunately the powers that be haven't dismissed it
I’m sure there’s a dozen chalkboards with a bunch of “what if he moves his arm this way 1 inch?” hypothesis scattered in the bowels of the Big “A”. Sigh…
Sciossia will wait
and wait and wait until we lose a bunch of more games before he makes any changes. Still wants to see if Rodney ,Kazmir,and Bulger can turn it around. Are you kidding me!?
Nobody else would take these guys for free! But its okay its early and wins don’t mean as much right now, right?
Wow.
I don’t even have a feeble, failed attempt at wit or sarcasm.
I didn’t think it would be possible for the team to look THAT much worse than last season, not after all the BIG SPLASHES the Angels made.
But IT is happening.
Front office is
thinking that they can’t pay 20 milion for these guys to be sitting at home. So pay them 20 mil and lose games for us. That is double the fun.
** Terry Smith's voice **
Good News!
The Angels are playing well enough to keep out of falling to 5th place!
(( And it sucks listening to local radio and hearing talk of how well the Doyers are playing and about to take 3 of 4 from the World Seriers Champs while the Angels lose 3 of 4 to a AA club – Los Angeles city now might sue to get the name LA taken OUT of the Angels name ))
Barry Zito has only allowed 3 runs in 3 innings against the Dodgers tonight
Someone wake up Tony, I heard he might be available.
by Suboptimal on Apr 3, 2011 5:56 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
It's rumored the Dodgers are holding out...
…and despite Tony offering 18M and a second round pick, they Doyers think they can get a two first round picks and 19M.
Tony has yet to read his email – so there is hope Sub!
Not fair to the Angels fans
to have to sit back and watch this team lose when we all know what the big reason is for that. i can’t be the only one yelling “why are these guys still on the team!!”
Yeah, despite still being a fan of a team...how many casuals do you think REGRET
spending any $$$ on tickets to an upcoming game after now seeing the product at it’s best.
I can root for free from home, even if the positive moments are difficult to find. $$$ are not going a long way these days and I bet at this rate, the pan of the seats this season might look like the Sahara at times.
Charlie Sheen tickets or Angel tickets… Hmmm.
My hopes have been dashed.
I know I know it’s only 4 games but seriously this team is managed to lose. I don’t understand what these bumbling fools in the front office and dugout see. I know it’s not us fans being critical we are now speaking truth. It is gettin beyond ridiculous and some major changes need to happen, sadly they won’t.
Bring on the OREO Line!
by angelskid2210 on Apr 3, 2011 5:59 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
lyle spencer
pre-game saturday, on am 830, was asked what the key to 2011 was… surprise surprise, jeff mathis.
I forgot the exact words were, but he described mathis in very flowery terms… almost a love poem.
What does this have to do with todays game? Nothing. But that hack lyle can ram his keyboard up his ass and jump off a cliff.
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
by clover_black on Apr 3, 2011 6:03 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Lyle sounds like Jeff might his long lost son too
I’m starting to suspect that the fatherhood Jeff Mathis may have been a group effort, the natural consequence of too many 1980s key chain parties that at least Sosh should have had the good sense to stay away from.
All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine.
by Quad Fin Rider on Apr 3, 2011 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You should see Lyle's postgame from today
It was like the Angels won the game. I would point out the part where he credits Mathis for a key out that advanced a baserunner, but he seems to have since scrubbed the story clean of even that questionable reference to reality.
Lyle must have a pharmaceutical clause in his contract:
Happy pills by the case required for writing daily positive articles about this team…He’s gonna need a truckload by the All Star Break
you're on to something...
sosh knocks up lyle… gives birth to demon spawn.
It’s like Rosmary’s Baby meets Junior.
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
by clover_black on Apr 3, 2011 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow. Check out Dustin Moseley's pitching line for today.
I would say just a little bit better than Kazmir’s.
I've got nothing.
but he gets paid less
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he will be good this year facing number 5 starters and in Petco
the worst of all new ballpacks
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He looks like their number three starter.
Don’t be surprised if he wins a Cy Young pitching in Petco. Possible National League MVP.
I've got nothing.
Scioscia speaks
“Some guys did a terrific job on the mound and gave us a chance to win,” Scioscia said, "and some didn’t. There are some things we’re going to sort out. We need to change some things.
That might have been easier to do about six months ago.
“We’re four games [and three losses] into this, and you definitely want to balance guys getting their feet on the ground with performance. We need to find some chemistry down in the ’pen. We do have some missing pieces, if you want to evaluate it correctly. We do miss [Scott] Downs. Some guys who need to throw the ball are not throwing the ball well now.”You hear that everyone? Just learn to play better!
“Right now,” Scioscia said, “he doesn’t have velocity or command — and that’s something that has to sort itself out.”This fills me with confidence that it will, whatever it is.
He's starting to talk like Tony.
(Though it could be the other way around.)
It’s a passive, Tao-of-Tony, “when spring comes the grass grows by itself” sort of mumble.
It’s the sound of a man with a nice paycheck and complete job security, passing time, like the evanescent seasons. What year is it again?
Well it's spring and my grass looks like shit.
Sort of like this team.
God #@%^ Mother F@#$in' Reagins! You make Omar Minaya look good.
by Monkeyspanked on Apr 3, 2011 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I like sosh's approach. It can be applied to other professions.
teacher to failing student - “Just get better grades.” “stop breaking the law.”
judge to career criminal
dominos pizza manager to DOV— “learn to love your job.”
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
i wish i worked for Dominos
free pizza
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close friend works for Dominoe's in 2011
occasional free pizza.
"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen
I had friends who delivered pizzas in high school
Free pizza all the time. Love mom & pop pizza parlors
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Sort itself out
wow! Someone should tell the front office that pretty soon fans showing up to the big A will sort itself out too!
by CaptainCarlos on Apr 3, 2011 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Goat of the game...
Scioscia. Always has the wrong player in the game at the wrong time.
I was unable to watch today or yesterday for that matter--a blessing in disguise
But after today I am just looking forward to football season. (or at least to when they call up Trout) PLEASE PROVE ME WRONG ANGLES.
So I'm not quite the fair weather fan I thought I was but the Angels still better win or I'm going to a Bee's game instead of watching!
NFL will not happen this year
i hope you like college footbal and the option
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I love CFB--don't watch NFL
So I'm not quite the fair weather fan I thought I was but the Angels still better win or I'm going to a Bee's game instead of watching!
No, but I like to watch the kids play and can take joy in their success even if the team sucks.
So I'm not quite the fair weather fan I thought I was but the Angels still better win or I'm going to a Bee's game instead of watching!
These last four spring training games have been brutal.
Cant wait for the season to start.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
I was at Kauffman this weekend and even the BBQ left a a bad taste in my mouth.
I also attended the 1st series in KC last year……..Halos got swept then even with KendryS playing. Sat a couple of rows behind Reagins during the 1st game, I said “how ya doin’” and got a curt nod for my effort. Mind you, not another red cap wearer within 10 rows. Is he that fan friendly at the big A? Oh yeah, didn’t he play Will Smith’s cousin in Fresh Prince of Bel-Air?
All in all this was a fucking sh***y series. This team appears to have very little enthusiasm along with a WE"RE DOOMED! frame of mind. “Sorting it out” won’t. Something drastic needs to take place. Wells didn’t even come out onto the field to stretch out after the team put on game jerseys. Arte listen to me!!!!!
Age and treachery will always overcome youth and skill!!
I'm glad some people are finally starting to agree with me that
Reagins is just a complete embarrassment that makes the Angels the laughingstock of the whole league. Even Royals fans are laughing at us and noticing how stupid their style of play is.
Also that Scioscia while having a great many strengths also has some huge glaring weaknesses that with this roster are going to bury us.
Like WTF is Kaz still doing pitching. His start today puts his ERA + since the beginning of 2010 at a level worse than Jim Abbott’s when they let him go in 1996, and he was a fan favorite.
Like WTF is Jeff Mathis still doing hitting under 200 and not throwing out runners as if his first 1000 something abs weren’t enough to displace him by a homegrown former first round draft pick whom apparently the Angels brass think has already proven the minors aren’t where he needs to be.
Like WTF is Fraudney still doing anywhere close to a pitching mound.
Like why is it that the relationship between pitcher performance and length of pitching appearance is an inverse one for the Angels rather than being a positive correlation like I’m assuming most managers would make it. IE did anyone still want Fraudney pitching today after he had already walked 3 batters. Or Jepsen pitching when he was obviously struggling with his control earlier this series.
Like how in the world can the Soth not see Wells for what he was/is, a creation of the Rogers Center. I mean even in a bounce back year for him and a below average year for Naps and Rivera, both of them outhit Wells Fargo on the road last year.
This team makes me sick. And I hope Arte is enjoying the past season + because he has entrusted his hundreds of millions of dollars to an incompetent, lucky to have his job, will never lead us to the promise land POS.
by MH252525 on Apr 3, 2011 9:20 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
IS HAVING RELIEVERS THAT CAN THROW STRIKES TOO MUCH TO ASK?
TONY REAGINS, FUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"F it, let's pitch." - Ervin Santana
Yeah, let's kick their asses.
But can we also win a game or two?
A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.
so glad I was busy moving all weekend unable to watch
checking the scores on my phone wasn’t as painful as it must’ve been watching this train wreck.
on the bright side, such an awful start will just make our August/September comeback that much sweeter, since by then Kaz will be gone, Rodney will be pitching mop-up, Kendrys will be back, Walden closing, and Conger as the everyday catcher. fingers crossed
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some douche named DFA from AN
I so agree. As long as we aren't 10 games back of the Rangers by then.
I don’t think we will be that far back, unless there’s more injuries.
But I don’t see Conger playing much that early; I see Wilson first and for awhile
in the slow move to work Mathis further away from the starting spot if the average continues towards extreme suckage.
Conger will only occur that early in the event of injuries to Mathis, Wilson.
And isn’t he the one going to be sent down when Downs returns?
Or maybe that’s when they unload Kaz . . .
ROFL!!!!!!!
this hurts sooo much i have to laugh!!! i sooooo want to use my F BOMB but i have a feeling that i am going to use it for a better occasion later on this month
Don’t know, don’t care. People that criticize can kiss my ass. I don’t give a shit
-Kobe Bryant
A long and painful season awaits us.
Who goofed? I've got to know.

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