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I’ve been reading posts on Halos Heaven for a long time. After last years debacle I decided to join because I needed to interact with intelligent fans about the uncertainty of this team’s future direction. I expected to learn a lot and I have not been disappointed. At the same time, I never expected to learn in an area that I think I have learned the most. It's been an interesting start to a season, my first as a registered member of HH and I'm reflecting on what I've learned and the ways I still have to go...


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I became an Angels fan in 1979 as a young boy. I fell in love with this team immediately. What’s more, this happened smack dead in the middle of a Dodgers family. Not to sound cliche, but I literally grew up watching the Angels on a little black and white TV that sometimes needed pliers to change channels. I also risked my life for this team: many times my I was warned not to turn the TV on while my mom was gone and endured the test of her hand on the unit for heat upon her return. I batted .500, a painful .500


My first baseball game was in 1978, Dodgers/Pirates. Watching baseball with my extended family? Dodgers games. I always watched the Angels alone. It’s safe to say I developed a relationship with the team that still holds to this day. As a result, I am very defensive and protective of my team. So when I joined HH, I was quite taken aback. I never imagined having to defend the team here. Since, I have worked to understand the idea of due criticism. It’s a work in progress. 


32 years later, I still watch the games alone if I don’t go with my son (who watches the game alone, funny enough). The majority of these three decades were spent enjoying what individual players brought to the game, what they taught about life. We’ve had Cuban defectors, a one-armed pitcher, a deaf player, small players who were told they couldn’t be ball players, a ton of washed up guys looking for second chances, and an array of walking life stories. Even as losers, I took something from the games and still do. It gets even more cheesy. Growing up in a single parent home and now being a father, let’s just say a movie where a kid connects his ability to be with his dad to the Angels winning the pennant was a trip emotionally. Actually being alive to see them win the World Series? I never imagined it. I had nothing to compare it to. 


None of this means that I don’t root for them to win. Trust me, I’m hardcore. I certainly know that many people on here have their connections with the team that go far beyond just the box score. To some, I also understand it’s just their local ballclub and they demand a winning team. That’s all fair game. I know the start we’ve had immediately makes people dread that we’re repeating last years ordeal. To some old-timers, the fear is that we’ll become that futile loser team again. I've been tripping out over the doom and gloom after only four games, reverting to patience I've had to learn over the 2500+ games I've endured. 


So I am learning to understand that the criticism comes with losing now. That people don’t want to simply follow the team. I’ve heard it referred to as “blindly” and heard numerous conditioned statements under which terms people would stop rooting for the team: “If they do this...I’m gone”. Times sure change and I’m learning to roll with it. I’ve heard of calls to run the GM out of town before too. But I’m not used to the near dehumanizing, mean-spirited, treatment our GM gets. He put this team together so he should be on the hook. Boy is he. Somehow I think (actually, I know) if we win the world series this year, as I truly believe we will, he won’t get equal credit because “he’s not really, you know, making the decisions”. The idea of a guy starting at the bottom, working his way up and through the organization simply makes him one of those great stories in our team history. I just don’t get the venom. After he’s gone, I think that cruelty will stay as a stain on us that would never have existed before.


I’m no better fan than anyone else. I’m learning to roll with the punches, I just felt  like expressing how much this is all new to me. I’m not going to tell people how to cheer, what to say, or how to think. Like I said, my defensiveness is a work in progress. I enjoy debating it out and learning from knowledgeable fans on HH. I'd like to think that this new experience of sharing the team with a bunch of die-hard fans could mean that we all end up learning from each other. I'll still defend them and some will always guard their feelings with doubt. The hard part is learning to accept that this isn't 32 years ago and I can't pretend to be the Angels only fan anymore. Sounds silly, but it's hard. 

 

I know I will bleed Angels red until my last day, win or lose, regardless whose on the roster. Am I serious about my world series prediction? Yep. It’s not just the amazing 1-4 starting pitchers, the solid defensive outfield, the hitting machines in the infield, the potential of a bullpen without a choke artist, and our mix of veterans and youth. Thanks to the Angels of year’s past, I now have something to compare them to. 



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Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch

by red floyd on Apr 6, 2011 8:27 AM PDT reply actions  

Well done.

I’d say that the feeling of learning from one another is a widely shared theme on this site. I joined for the very same reason.

As for the venom thrown at Reagins, it’s my opinion that the fans here are smart enough to know when questionable and/or bad decisions are made. The lack of communication and conviction from the front office only adds to that. You are also right when you say that we fans now demand winning and are scared of returning to the BS (Before Scioscia) years.

"Working is the curse of the drinking class." - Oscar Wilde

by WateringTheGarden on Apr 6, 2011 8:40 AM PDT reply actions  

Re: Reagins...

…some moves have been great, other have been head-scratchers. This passionate fan base reacts to what they see and hear.

by sothball on Apr 6, 2011 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great write-up, BigT

You speak for many of us here in a number of ways.
It’s always good to keep learning and keep sharp, I am am always learning whilst participating in and enjoying this site.
It’s also good to keep a sense of humor and HH celebrates that as well.

by Raaddad on Apr 6, 2011 8:49 AM PDT reply actions  

Nice Job

I’m fairly new here too, and often forget that baseball has changed from a romantic game to an over-analyzed stat driven one.

Count me as one who is optimistic about this year.

by JeffJoiner on Apr 6, 2011 2:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Especially enjoyed your description of your early years.

I also became an Angels fan in 1979, and remember all too clearly suffering through the 90’s with some terrible teams. I think a lot of us know the feeling of being ‘the only Angel fan" among friends and family devoted to the Dodgers. As far as Reagins, sorry but I think he has it coming to him. It’s not just the foolish off season moves, it’s the FO’s inability to truthfully communicate the reasons for these moves to their fanbase. WiHaloFan and others have commented on the ineptitude and the dishonesty of the FO, especially over this past winter. I was thrilled when Moreno bought the team, I’d probably rather have Scioscia than any other ML manager despite his weird man-crush Jeff Mathis…but I have little patience for Reagins. I don’t care if he worked his way up from selling programs outside the stadium; the man is incompetent. That said, I enjoy your posts. I also feel that I’ll always bleed Angels red…and your love for our team comes through in your posts and comments. Keep it up…

by spiritof1979 on Apr 6, 2011 3:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Love it

I love stories like this and anyone who has a positive vibe is okay by me. Keep up the great work!

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by True Grich on Apr 6, 2011 4:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, that's nice, but Mathis still sucks!

My response to your letter of February 19, 1976, is - kiss my ass.
Sincerely,
Bill Baxley, Attorney General

by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Apr 6, 2011 10:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Bravo

My time following the team predates yours by almost two decades. I guess I have seen enough collections of hapless players called the “19xx Angels” that I don’t panic when things don’t go according to plan now. It isn’t that mediocrity should be embraced, only that the perspective of having followed those teams provides me with an appreciation of how competitive this team is every season, not just peaking for one year and then disappearing the next.

We’re only a half-dozen games into the season. I’m not worried. There is plenty of time to get the injured back, to sort out the bullpen roster, and (if necessary) make the Dan Haren Trade of 2011.

"The contract is brought up a lot. What it's going to take to get past it is winning. This organization took on the contract. I'm here to make them look good."~Vernon Wells

by George Kaplan on Apr 6, 2011 11:09 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

While searching for articles which I remember explaining why Reagins was named GM,

I found this blurb which outlines a bit of background at the time. This account seems to fit my recollection fairly well, as well as this. Generally, I recall Stoneman saying that Reagins knew the “Angels’ farm system better than anyone else”.

Recently, editorializing became considerably more toxic after an obligatory period of mild criticism, which followed irrational euphoria. I don’t know if impressionable HHers became emboldened in their irreverent hate-speech after reading sites such as Bleacher Report, or vice versa….(Maybe scareduck morphed into HH). Those who criticize Reagins for his lack of prowess at public speaking have a lot to learn…or maybe they don’t.

Considering my perception of how things work, I think Reagins is doing a fine job of playing the cards he’s dealt.

by wumbug on Apr 7, 2011 6:19 AM PDT reply actions  

You say Reagins is "doing a fine job of playing the cards he's dealt."

That makes him sound as if he is a passive manager who has no control over what comes his way. Reagins makes the trade/acquisition decisions proactively. He’s the dealer. And so far, it’s been very hit and miss.

A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.

by angelslogic on Apr 7, 2011 6:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I mind went specifically to Crawford and Beltre.

I think the Angels (Moreno, Reagins, Scioscia) wanted Crawford. I don’t think they ever wanted really Beltre, largely due to Boras.

by wumbug on Apr 7, 2011 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Great post

I think just like any sport and any team, fans react emotionally to things in the present, often losing focus of the big picture. I’m certainly guilty of this. We panic over a few losses and get headstrong after a winning streak. In both cases it’s a bit irrational, but it’s the nature of sports and fandom; we’re all emotionally invested in the team.

I came to HH hoping to immerse myself in a community of fans that are as passionate about the Halos as I am. Being in New York, I don’t have many people with whom to discuss, dissect and analyze the team. This forum serves that purpose for me, as I would imagine it does for a number of other members. I think the strength of HH is the array of different opinions, all rationally and intelligently argued (well, mostly). And like you, I have learned quite a bit.

The optimism is always appreciated, especially after a string of losses when many of us (myself included) get a bit bummed out and worry that the sky is falling. Thanks for sharing and keeping the ship balanced.

by Bolt Deck on Apr 7, 2011 7:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Forgotten amid all the venom toward Reagins

He didn’t panic and re-sign Lackey. He held firm to the team’s concept of Lackey’s long-term value.

Flash forward to Tom Verducci in SI Online today, writing about the mess the Red Sox starting pitching has become:

Lackey. He is 32. His strikeout rate has dipped five straight years. His ERA, walk rate and WHIP have gone up three straight years. He throws his fastball less and less, becoming a breaking-ball dependent pitcher. If he were a stock, you would sell.

It isn’t just the deals he’s made, it is also the ones he was smart enough not to do. If we had paid Lackey the deal he got from the Sox, he’d be making Wells look like a relative bargain.

"The contract is brought up a lot. What it's going to take to get past it is winning. This organization took on the contract. I'm here to make them look good."~Vernon Wells

by George Kaplan on Apr 8, 2011 1:29 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I agree with you fully.

It just goes to show how difficult and subjective these decisions are. You are right that TR staying consistent is his best move, as a guiding philosophy is at least a notch above guessing. I watched Lackey today and he’s just not the same guy. Without a fastball, guys are squaring up on him. If that is something the FO foresaw, then they got it right on. Fortunately for TR, the true verdict is still out on a good amount of his moves/non-moves. It boggles my mind how people latch on to subjective things as if they are truths, lose all critical thinking faculties, and then carry on as if they’ve been proven. TR sounded like an idiot for suggesting that Haren would be like a new free agent, according to the ridiculing media and many HH posters, until everyone got a feeling of it. Let’s see if Kendrys gives that same feel. Without getting too much into it, it is fair to say that amidst all of the chaos, there is more than enough room for him to be proven successful. It will be fun watching this year because as I said in the offseason, I think he will be taking it to his critics this season. We’ll see, but if you’re going to go down, go down using your own philosophy. In the aftermath of all of these near decade long, nine-figure deals for mega free agents, imagine a no-name guy from the Inland Empire standing current wisdom on its head and being credited with starting a trend where no one can expect contracts beyond 5 years? There’s a huge league-wide matrix out there this season that really puts Tony Reagins on trial this season. Regardless of what you think of him, it will only be fair to accept the results however they turn out. So far, early (very early) indications are favorable.

"We are not on an austerity program," Arte Moreno

by thebigtizzle on Apr 8, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

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