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From Mike DiGiovanna on Twitter:
"Howie Kendrick has never played OF in pro ball but is unfazed about start in LF for #Angels tonight: 'I'm not going to stress about it.'"

Tonight's lineup:
Aybar SS/Abreu DH/Izzy 2B/Hunter RF/Kendrick LF/Callapso 3B/Trumbo 1B/Mathis C/Bourjos CF

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Hahahaha

Wow! Howie in LF????

NA, #34 SP, LAA
Light up the Halo for Nick!

More Howie please...

by hk47 on May 10, 2011 5:27 PM PDT reply actions  

mr opiejeanne says

oooooh…. kay.

THIS… IS… ANAHEIM!!

by opiejeanne on May 10, 2011 5:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Don't stress the mess.

"It's our money," owner Arte Moreno said.

by 44FAN on May 10, 2011 5:29 PM PDT reply actions  

I just don't get it.

I also don’t understand this move.

My response to your letter of February 19, 1976, is - kiss my ass.
Sincerely,
Bill Baxley, Attorney General

by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on May 10, 2011 5:33 PM PDT reply actions  

To get Howie, Amarista, Trumbo and Abreu's bats in the lineup.

"If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base." ~Dave Barry

by LAASurfin on May 10, 2011 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I kind of like it

But, yeah, cue the Twilight Zone music.

"If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base." ~Dave Barry

by LAASurfin on May 10, 2011 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Amarista ain't playing

It’s actually to get the best offensive lineup out there, without playing Abreu in LF. If it works, it’s genius.

by mattwelch on May 10, 2011 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep, should have looked

instead of assuming Amarista would be at 2B.

I don’t hate it. It seems very un-Scioscia-like though.

"If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base." ~Dave Barry

by LAASurfin on May 10, 2011 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Makes no sense.

Abreu LF
Howie 1B
Trumbo DH

Does the exact same thing with less risk and more defensive continuity.

I have a very hard time believing Howie in LF is better than Abreu there.

by Turks Teeth on May 10, 2011 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love how a guy who steals 20-30 bags every year...

…stays healthy, continues to hit, and is comparatively agile on the basepaths, suddenly becomes James Belushi in this pic.

With Bourjos in CF, Bobby has comparatively less zone to cover — the aggregate OF defense in 2010 was net positive with Bobby in left and Pete in CF.

Bobby is a below average fielder, but it just doesn’t matter that much with Pete on the field.

by Turks Teeth on May 10, 2011 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Never forget Juan Rivera out there last year

Dude was a statue, and he was much better than Abreu. Count me among those who would rather have Kendrick out there.

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by Gorbachav5 on May 11, 2011 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bobby is worse than a "below average fielder"

He is, consistently, one of the worst defensive outfielders in the game. He is also at an age where defense tends to deteriorate even more rapidly. I would put the chances of him being better than Kendrick out there at near zero.

by mattwelch on May 11, 2011 6:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Eh

Just about any athletic infielder should be able to shag fly balls better than Abreu. The only special qualification is raw arm strength.

by Suboptimal on May 10, 2011 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Trumbo's not much better than Abreu in terms of range

Howie can at least move around. Give me athletic guys in the outfield any day, as long as they have some ability to judge a fly ball (which most do at this level).

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by Gorbachav5 on May 11, 2011 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I love it

You could get the same bats in the lineup with Howie at 1B, Trumbo in left, Abreu at DH. Or Abreu in left, Trumbo at 1st, Howie in left.

But Howie’s a lot faster than the Trumbo and Abreu. And speed is the key skill for outfield defense. I applaud Scioscia for giving it a try.

"That boy is our last hope" - Obi Wan Scioscia, as Francisco Rodriguez left for the Mets. "No, there is another" - Yoda Reagins.

by RallyMonkey5 on May 11, 2011 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

+1

go long with extenze...i do

by angelsownredsux on May 11, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I guess Sosh is thinking that with the sinkeball of Pineiro, Howie's not gonna get a lot of action anyway.

My response to your letter of February 19, 1976, is - kiss my ass.
Sincerely,
Bill Baxley, Attorney General

by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on May 10, 2011 5:39 PM PDT reply actions  

I personally really like tonight's lineup (minus Mathis)

Aybar SS
Abreu DH
Izzy 2B
Hunter RF
Kendrick LF
Callapso 3B
Trumbo 1B
Mathis C
Bourjos CF

by linkbruin on May 10, 2011 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, except for that Vortex Of Suck at 'C' it's, umm... "Innovative"

"If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base." ~Dave Barry

by LAASurfin on May 10, 2011 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

In fact, if Conger was in,

that’d be a lineup you could look for some real fireworks out of.

"If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base." ~Dave Barry

by LAASurfin on May 10, 2011 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

rec, for the "vortex of suck" reference

NA, #34 SP, LAA
Light up the Halo for Nick!

More Howie please...

by hk47 on May 10, 2011 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

According to Angelskid2210's link to BTBS

Miguel Olivo and AJ Pure-shit-ski takes offense to that.

Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch

by red floyd on May 10, 2011 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Um, this is a guy who FINALLY looks like he might be ready to become

what everyone thought he could be. Maybe Sosh could pick a spot for him to play???

"If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base." ~Dave Barry

by LAASurfin on May 10, 2011 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm with you.

It’s pretty clear that Sosh dosen’t see Howie as the everyday 2B.

My response to your letter of February 19, 1976, is - kiss my ass.
Sincerely,
Bill Baxley, Attorney General

by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on May 10, 2011 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is how I see it

Howie is the spark plug this year, and Sosh wants to maximize his starts. Last night was first game he didn’t start, and he still came in (VW did get hurt to make it happen though).

by linkbruin on May 10, 2011 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I don't agree with the "He's not loved @ 2B" thinking

Though, I do think giving him a bunch of new defensive assignments to concentrate on might be a really good way to throw ice water on a hot bat.

"If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base." ~Dave Barry

by LAASurfin on May 10, 2011 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

But why not Howie at 1st, Abreu in LF?

The guy hasn’t played a day of pro ball in left — even if Abreu is below average, he’s likely to be better than someone completely inexperienced.

by Turks Teeth on May 10, 2011 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't agree

Abreu is one of the worst outfielders in baseball, and has been for some time. Howie is a good athlete in his prime who plays a more challenging position.

by mattwelch on May 10, 2011 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unconvinced -- I'll continue to disagree here.

There’s no data on Howie in LF, and he has no experience there, so the counterargument is basically that any good athlete should be able to improvise.

I think a below average fielder with a lot of experience at the position is still better than someone who has never played the position before. Not to say that Kendrick couldn’t improve over time, but he won’t likely get that chance.

by Turks Teeth on May 10, 2011 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

There IS data on Abreu in left

And it’s awful. As I said above, give me the athletic guy. I think experience is a good tiebreaker when the physical skills are roughly on par. But they’re not. Howie is MUCH more athletic. I like this move a lot.

Defending maligned chants since 2009

by Gorbachav5 on May 11, 2011 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

yes

NA, #34 SP, LAA
Light up the Halo for Nick!

More Howie please...

by hk47 on May 10, 2011 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's pretty hard to figure when Howie's never played the outfield before.

Play him one time, fine. If he’s there more often, then I don’t see this working.

My response to your letter of February 19, 1976, is - kiss my ass.
Sincerely,
Bill Baxley, Attorney General

by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on May 10, 2011 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or that

the combination of Trumbo/1B + HK/LF + Amarista/2B > Amarista/LF + HK/2B + Trumbo/1B or Trumbo/LF + Amarista/2B + HK/1B, if we’re going through all of the defensive permutations.

by jjackflash on May 10, 2011 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

you made my brain hurt.

My response to your letter of February 19, 1976, is - kiss my ass.
Sincerely,
Bill Baxley, Attorney General

by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on May 10, 2011 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even if Kendrick doesn't perform that well in left...

It’s not a critical defensive position, especially with Pineiro going. He’ll probably be fine out there.

He travels fastest who travels alone.

by Kingfish1 on May 10, 2011 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not remotely

It implies that this is a way to keep the best possible offense in the lineup without putting Abreu in LF.

by mattwelch on May 10, 2011 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agree.

Besides…Howie is a pretty good 2nd baseman.

by firebird81 on May 10, 2011 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mathis

it simply disgusts me every time I see his name in the lineup. By now, I accept (though I do not understand or agree) that the Soth thinks Mathis is a good defensive catcher (he isn’t ), and thinks that Mathis’ bad defense somehow overcomes his offensive ineptitude (when, if anything, it actually magnifies it).

by jjackflash on May 10, 2011 6:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Throw enough shit at the wall, and something is bound to stick

The problem isn’t in the lineup ordering or defensive positioning, it’s in the overall construction of the roster. This move is crazy, but why the hell not? Howie is the best all-around hitter on the team right now, so might as well stick his bat in left field and leave the middle-infield for the slap-hitters, of which the Angels have plenty.

by Suboptimal on May 10, 2011 6:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Well said

I agree with all your points.

Defending maligned chants since 2009

by Gorbachav5 on May 11, 2011 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Do you guys think?

This could all be related to another story I read here that said the Angels are using advanced stats in the front office? I would think they would run reports on their current roster first and make appropriate changes from this new source of information.

We take serious...comedically.

by Versolt on May 11, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

They must have started that the day after the VW trade to see what all the fuss was about.

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by snowhor on May 11, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is nuts

What is the a beer league softball game? This is a poor reflection onthis franchise. We are rolling a guy out to left who hasn’t played there since High School!!! I find it hard to believe abreu is worse than an unproven converted infielder, no matter how much I love Howie. Can’t wait to watch tonight

by Dfresh on May 10, 2011 6:23 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

He's looking for a glove.

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by cupie on May 10, 2011 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hope it works but

things always seem to against the Angels. I fear an injury because Howie is not expierienced on when to call off other players out there.

by CaptainCarlos on May 10, 2011 6:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Hey why doesn't somebody that lives in Anaheim find Mathis and break his foot or something

That will keep Conger at C…..

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by Nord15 on May 10, 2011 6:57 PM PDT reply actions  

looking forward to seeing Mathis in CF in the foreseeable future

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by KB_24 on May 11, 2011 5:38 PM PDT reply actions  

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