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Erick Aybar Drives in Mike Scioscia 1,000th Win

ANAHEIM, CA - MAY 8:  Manager Mike Scioscia of the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim celebrates with catcher Hank Conger #16 after their win against the Cleveland Indians on May 8, 2011 at Angel Stadium in Anaheim, California.  The win was Scoiscia's 1,000th  career victory as a manager as the Angels won 6-5.  (Photo by Stephen Dunn/Getty Images)

Mike Scioscia helmed his 1,000th career managerial victory with a 6-5 Mothers Day Angels win over the Indians in front of a sea of red that he as much as anyone helped create and cultivate in his first eleven seasons.

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But nothing is perfect and into year number "Dozen of Anaheim", today's win had all the hallmarks of a classic Mike Scioscia overmanaged, role-playing damaged meltdown. Of his 817 regular season managerial losses at the helm of the Angels, plenty have been delivered through rigid miscalculations of square players fitting into round roles. Sunday afternoon looked like a tailormade Sothball bullpen meltdown with Fernando Rodney turning a one-run lead into a one-run deficit.

Why was Rodney in the game with Scott Downs having only thrown four pitches in the bottom of the 7th to record that last out of that frame? Rigid roles. When it is working, like it has with Shield-to-Percival during Scioscia's tenure, it is a quaintly enjoyable consistency in a game of chaos. But the 2011 season has already seen a few losses laid at the feet of the Rigid Role altar and Game #35 was smoldering in the funeral pyre when Mark Trumbo beat out a high hop grounder and Peter Bourjos speedifying his way to first on a bouncer off the plate that scored Howie Kendrick from 3B. Erick Aybar followed with a monster double to retake the lead

Earlier in the game it was a monster two-out double by Alberto Callaspo to give the Angels lead that was the talk of the game. Dan Haren tossed an astounding 6.2 inning pitching performance and Jordan Walden had a chaotic 9th inning but managed to earn the Save.

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I'd have signed in sooner, but was taking a timed exam and had to finish it first.

Only caught the last 2 innings.

Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch

by red floyd on May 8, 2011 3:29 PM PDT reply actions  

And was only able to log in for the last strike!

Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch

by red floyd on May 8, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

to quote the inimitable Carl Wilson

It takes good timing

Well, come see a fat old man some time!

by Moondoggy on May 8, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Me?

Only my 10th. Hope you’re still proud of me.

by Bolt Deck on May 8, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, I'm just picking up a CCNA in my spare time.

Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch

by red floyd on May 8, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

rock on

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it"

by sherikay on May 8, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

best 2 innings to watch

the other 7 would have made the last 2 more heart wrenching

Somewhere, right now, Mickey Hatcher is ruining a swing.

by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on May 8, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

We were only able to start watching in the 6th

Had to do Mothers Day stuff with the only local child.

THIS… IS… ANAHEIM!!

by opiejeanne on May 8, 2011 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Congrats to Sosh for win 1000.

But today, like so often, seemingly despite himself.

A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.

by angelslogic on May 8, 2011 3:29 PM PDT reply actions  

The sucky part is that Fraudney gets the W.

Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch

by red floyd on May 8, 2011 3:30 PM PDT reply actions  

thats the best way to judge a pitcher

is he a winner?

Somewhere, right now, Mickey Hatcher is ruining a swing.

by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on May 8, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

agree

Cautious yet very optimistic about the 2011 Season. Go Angels.

by angelsfan7 on May 8, 2011 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks to Hank, Erick and Dan

Eff you Rodney

Gotta have more Kowbell

by OCangels on May 8, 2011 3:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Add Walden to the thanks, and

yeah, F-you Fraudney.

A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.

by angelslogic on May 8, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

That win was very satisfying

Official prediction: The Angels will win the AL west this season.

by RexTookMyStash on May 8, 2011 3:30 PM PDT reply actions  

My Mom had a blast in Anahiem!!!

Official prediction: The Angels will win the AL west this season.

by RexTookMyStash on May 8, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

did she get there early enough to get a hat?

Cautious yet very optimistic about the 2011 Season. Go Angels.

by angelsfan7 on May 8, 2011 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

how quickly did they run out?

we got there right as the game was starting and they were already out :(

by joeyz34 on May 8, 2011 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

My all friends are study every match this team.

This team play with luminous resistance power.

Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch

by red floyd on May 8, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Aybar all the way.

Haren’s performance alone would not have overcome today’s over-management.

Erick was pantheresque.

by Turks Teeth on May 8, 2011 3:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Aybar is playing out of his mind.

I don’t expect it to last forever, but I hope he can extend this streak into the summer.

by Turks Teeth on May 8, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe Aybar is of the Santana mold

And he can only be good every other year.

by linkbruin on May 8, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can never figure Santana out.

But Aybar — I just figure he’s a contact hitter, and contact hitters are streaky. I suspect if he’s healthy and mentally in the game, he can ride a streak for a good long while.

(Same goes for negative streaks, FWIW.)

by Turks Teeth on May 8, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Plus last year he didn't seem to be able to adjust to the lead-off role

Appeared like that threw his whole game off.
Or maybe there were injury issues we didn’t know about.

by Raaddad on May 8, 2011 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Someone must have told him to take more pitches

Because that’s what he did last year, except that he’s still Erick Aybar, and he doesn’t know the difference between a ball and a strike. I think it cost him. Now he doesn’t seem to care anymore, which is good, because it’s how he learned how to play baseball.

The funny thing is, the complete opposite happened with Napoli. Last year someone clearly told him to stop taking so many pitches, because his career-low walk rate in 2010 has more than reversed itself now that he’s with another team. I’ve never been on the “Fire Hatcher” bandwagon, but I could be convinced to join if it turns out he’s really the one messing with the team’s plate discipline.

by Suboptimal on May 8, 2011 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe so

But the way Aybar is kicking butt right now,
you have to give some of the credit to Hatch for that as well.
Blame for fail, credit for win.

by Raaddad on May 8, 2011 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

But thats it, we'll never know which to credit/ blame hatcher for

However, it seems more likely that a player can get away with doing whatever he wants to when it works- think Vlad. When the player is struggling, then you would expect hatcher to step in and try to help. Maybe this isnt accurate, but this is why it always seems okay to blame a hitting coach for a guys’ struggles but not credit him for their successes.

by Balls and Strikes on May 9, 2011 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

grats mike today for playing conger!!!

good things happen when conger is in!!

conger > mathis

by ihigh on May 8, 2011 3:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Admiral

With an honorable mention to Mathis for keeping the pine warm

by MidMiHalo on May 8, 2011 3:30 PM PDT reply actions  

+1

Hope he gets Wilson’s “Job”

by grahams98 on May 8, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks to all the mom's...

Glad the Angels squeezed out a win

by grahams98 on May 8, 2011 3:31 PM PDT reply actions  

thanks to the moms ...

FOR SQUEEZING US OUT!!

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on May 8, 2011 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

For my youngest we had to serve an eviction notice.

She was comfy and had no intention of coming out.

THIS… IS… ANAHEIM!!

by opiejeanne on May 8, 2011 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

A very exciting game. I love our RC's. Congrats to Sosh for 1000.

  Hopefully Rodney is demoted. OUr middle infielders are really coming into their own. I am excited about our chances this year. If Vernon can hit the reset button, and play the way he has in the past, We get K-MO back, We’ve got a great team!!!.

by Wally's World on May 8, 2011 3:31 PM PDT reply actions  

RC's?

Angels baseball. We do what we must, because we can -- HaloDutch

by red floyd on May 8, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rookies im guessing.

You've been Bourjos'd!
RIP Nick Adenhart.
My bro Andy Lane= Cubs Bullpen catcher!

by WillGoAngels27 on May 8, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

This?

Jeff Mathis Batting Average Watch: .200

by ryanfea on May 8, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Angels win: check

Texas loses: check
Lakers embarrassed: check

Thats a Quality Mother’s Day.

Way to go Aybar and P-Bo for your clutchness. Congrats to Sosh.

by homercles on May 8, 2011 3:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Bynum acts like the asshole he is.

Check that one!

You've been Bourjos'd!
RIP Nick Adenhart.
My bro Andy Lane= Cubs Bullpen catcher!

by WillGoAngels27 on May 8, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was so uncalled for

Respect for lakers continues to drop

" With Haren bolstering the rotation, the Angels are set up beautifully for 2011"- Another East coast biased reporter

by Halos2011champs on May 8, 2011 3:38 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Oakland wins:

Not check

Seattle tied – check pending.

by Unclearnie on May 8, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bite me

Don’t know, don’t care. People that criticize can kiss my ass. I don’t give a shit
-Kobe Bryant
You want to make history you have to do historic things- Kobe Bryant

by KB_24 on May 8, 2011 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

we'll be back.

we have a few pieces to start with :)

"We are not on an austerity program," Arte Moreno

by thebigtizzle on May 9, 2011 12:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Best part for me...

I work with an Indian’s fan who on Friday afternoon said they were gonna sweep our asses this weekend. I think I’ll wear red to the office.

by grahams98 on May 8, 2011 3:35 PM PDT reply actions  

That's an ungracious way to congratulate our manager

Randomly adding an S to the end of my name

# Halo Heaven Fantasy Champ 2008 #

by UK Halo on May 8, 2011 3:37 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

i write postgame threads in the heat of the moment

I submit them to google news with a calmed-down edit a few minutes later. Then we get the postgame traffic who think I am a reasonable reporter.

by Rev Halofan on May 8, 2011 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

multi-tasking madness!

Randomly adding an S to the end of my name

# Halo Heaven Fantasy Champ 2008 #

by UK Halo on May 8, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

UK Halo, man...

You’ve been a bit of a hall monitor with the be-loyal-be-optimistic tack lately. What’s up?

The singularity of this community is that optimists and pessimists are allowed to cohabitate without being nagged. You’ve been nagging the crowd a lot of late.

by Turks Teeth on May 8, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I calls it as I sees it

Randomly adding an S to the end of my name

# Halo Heaven Fantasy Champ 2008 #

by UK Halo on May 8, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't have a problem with that.

Until you start calling out the crowd for failing to see things your way.

That’s when you start sounding like a front office plant. And this is, as the Rev points out a-plenty, an “independent fan community.”

by Turks Teeth on May 8, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

You began the taunting.

And you’ve been doing it a lot.

I’ve said nothing until it starting annoying me.

by Turks Teeth on May 8, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

if your post is about him it is

if it isn’t you don’t

…or is it the other way around

by Rev Halofan on May 8, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

exactly

Randomly adding an S to the end of my name

# Halo Heaven Fantasy Champ 2008 #

by UK Halo on May 8, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now you do sound like Halowood.

You’re throwing punches wildly. If one hits me, it’s my business. It you can’t take responsibility for what you say, you’re either drunk or a a dick.

Not many people I dislike here, but I just added one to my list.

by Turks Teeth on May 8, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

What did he say to you?

I don’t see why this argument is happening.

"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen

by IE Angel on May 8, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

You misread my post

I am more than happy to take responsibility for whatever I write, but I will not refrain from writing something because someone won’t like it. That’s part of civil discourse (unlike your post just now)

Randomly adding an S to the end of my name

# Halo Heaven Fantasy Champ 2008 #

by UK Halo on May 8, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

First graciousness, now civility.

You got some sweet pigtails, Judy.

You entered the gamethread today calling out Mathis detractors. I was among those detractors.

And you entered a game thread earlier this week doing much the same, calling out the pessimists.

Now you accuse the site manager of ungraciousness.

When most of your recent comments here are complaining about others in the community, and the tenor of the community, it gets tired.

I don’t choose random people to call out. Just the ones calling everybody else out, including myself, for lack of their own self-said graces.

by Turks Teeth on May 8, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have nothing to add.

Randomly adding an S to the end of my name

# Halo Heaven Fantasy Champ 2008 #

by UK Halo on May 8, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good.

Leave it that way. Getting annoyed is just part of being part of this organization.

You can write a post with your opinion about the way things are run here, but please hit “cancel” instead of “post.”

Trust me, it will serve you well in the long run. I’ve had my fair share of trouble and unfortunately when you are dealing with consummate professionals (the people here are pretty good at what they do, better than I) that are very confident in their hypotheses it is very hard to widen the Overton window of the discussion.
Good Luck and the best to you!

Listen to me most weekdays @ 10:30a PT http://greysonnation.wordpress.com
"Yes but" is the best way on earth to stay broke and subservient -Rev. Halofan

by Greyson Peltier on May 8, 2011 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Overton window

Yeah, I had to look it up…

Kill me.

"If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base." ~Dave Barry

by LAASurfin on May 8, 2011 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, it's from THAT?

Or, at least, was popularized in that?

I feel better.

"If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base." ~Dave Barry

by LAASurfin on May 8, 2011 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ahem.

I feel better about not having been familiar with the “Overton window” concept if familiarity stems from having read that book.

But, yeah, still waiting on some of your promised balanced and cuts-both-ways political “commentary”.

"If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base." ~Dave Barry

by LAASurfin on May 8, 2011 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

Yeah, Beck is pretty easy to pick on—especially his very poor writing (I like the cover shown here though). Ok, let’s see: Obama should have let us see more proof of Bin Laden’s remains? How ‘bout that? . . . I don’t know . . . We got the bastard, and therefore it “must be the best of all possible worlds.” Maybe I’m more aligned with Voltaire’s idiotic characters than with Voltaire after all.

by Raaddad on May 8, 2011 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

This was an optimal comment

"If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base." ~Dave Barry

by LAASurfin on May 9, 2011 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

+1

More contained Halowood

" With Haren bolstering the rotation, the Angels are set up beautifully for 2011"- Another East coast biased reporter

by Halos2011champs on May 8, 2011 3:58 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

What season did soth start?

How many games managed?

" With Haren bolstering the rotation, the Angels are set up beautifully for 2011"- Another East coast biased reporter

by Halos2011champs on May 8, 2011 3:38 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Started 2000

Is 1000-817 as manager

Jeff Mathis Batting Average Watch: .200

by ryanfea on May 8, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

And 21-24 in the playoffs

If I added that correctly

Jeff Mathis Batting Average Watch: .200

by ryanfea on May 8, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does he get the W in a game he was thrown out of?

Randomly adding an S to the end of my name

# Halo Heaven Fantasy Champ 2008 #

by UK Halo on May 8, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are Weaver and Haren the same pitcher?

Haren- (4-2) 57.2IP 1.87ERA 56K 0.85WHIP
Weaver- (6-2) 57.2IP 1.87ERA 55K 0.90WHIP

by VAangel on May 8, 2011 3:39 PM PDT reply actions  

I think he is regretting his new hair do

seeing the movie Thor coming out. Weaver pre-haircut looks a lot like Thor.

Listen to me most weekdays @ 10:30a PT http://greysonnation.wordpress.com
"Yes but" is the best way on earth to stay broke and subservient -Rev. Halofan

by Greyson Peltier on May 8, 2011 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know what this is, but it makes me happy.

by pescado555 on May 8, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Roleplay is fine when it's driven by success.

Shields to Percival, then Shields to K-Rod made all the sense in the world. Their continued success had fans and coach alike calling for those guys in the eighth and ninth.

But Rodney has never had that consistency. Yet Downs has had plenty of it, and we’re paying him a ton. He also has a history of two inning outings.

I don’t get the selective “pet a vet” tactic with Mike. Downs is a vet too.

by Turks Teeth on May 8, 2011 3:43 PM PDT reply actions  

yea a 6th grader could have managed

the bullpend the Angels had in the mid 2000’s. Such awesomeness.

Now that 8th inning was so infuriating. Even if he didn’t want to leave Downs in, Takahashi is a better choice against the heart of the Indians lineup.

Vernon Well's Current Average = .179 Current # of outs = Don't ask him
TY Tony!

by MH252525 on May 8, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Downs yes

The issue is that the of the Indians next 4 hitters, two were lefties (Choo and Hafner) and 2 were Switch hitters (A Cabrera & Santana). Downs should have pitched the 8th. Whether the players feel more comfortable or not, you have to at least ask whether or not the player’s comfort outweighs the obvious strategic advantage to keeping Downs in.

by jco on May 8, 2011 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed. Not saying I agree with Mike...

Im just saying that I understand where it comes from and I dont think its completely ridiculous. One thing that I think Scoiscia actually does do well, is allow a guys a chance to fail when there is a better option and then change ’em. He may not do it fast enough but he is pretty good at sorting out the good from the bad. I think the reason Mathis/Napoli situation is so annoying is that it is actually pretty rare for Scoiscia to hang on to starters who really suck when there is are better options.

by aaronkc7 on May 8, 2011 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Uh he got the WIN 44!

And as ANYONE would know, its all about winning. Therefore Rodney was the most crucial player in this game, duh.

I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....

by PhiSlamma on May 8, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

We have a two game lead in the AL west.

Official prediction: The Angels will win the AL west this season.

by RexTookMyStash on May 8, 2011 3:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Uh kendrys Morales anyone?

Now that Lackey has turned to the enemy lets kick his ass

by Angelsrthebest101 on May 8, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

who?

oh yeah the guy trumbo is making us forget

by hoffy loves the angels on May 8, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brian Downs and Joel Pineiro out all of April. Aybar out for two weeks?

Everyone has their share of injuries.

Now that Lackey has turned to the enemy lets kick his ass

by Angelsrthebest101 on May 8, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

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by Greyson Peltier on May 8, 2011 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brian Downsings?

A bizarro version of everyones favorite glasses wearing DH?

by aces666high on May 8, 2011 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's bullshit...

We beat them, remember? Our record reflects our winning and has shit to do with team with no pitching. Injuries didn’t get them killed today, they scored runs. A dude batting .130 dropped a granny on ’em. Hehehehe!

"We are not on an austerity program," Arte Moreno

by thebigtizzle on May 8, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I believe you contradicted yourself.

A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.

by angelslogic on May 8, 2011 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

nope.

they’re not losing due to injury, they’re losing because they don’t have pitching. Nonetheless, we beat them because we’re better and that reflects in our winning and first place standing.

"We are not on an austerity program," Arte Moreno

by thebigtizzle on May 8, 2011 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

The thing about the Rangers is.....

they really aren’t that good. I mean, they only won 90 games last year. Not a dominant team by any stretch. Certainly, they do have some injuries but they aren’t as good as last year and the Angels are bouncing back up.

by aaronkc7 on May 8, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

yup

it’s their pitching that’s gonna doom them, more so than the hamilton/cruz injuries

by river-z on May 8, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

"We are not on an austerity program," Arte Moreno

by thebigtizzle on May 8, 2011 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

are you in a bad mood today?

just wondering… posting lots of “debbie downer” stuff.

Cautious yet very optimistic about the 2011 Season. Go Angels.

by angelsfan7 on May 8, 2011 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Impressed with Haren and Trumbo interviews.

These guys seem alert, even-tempered, level-headed.

by Turks Teeth on May 8, 2011 3:55 PM PDT reply actions  

I know Haren knows more about pitching than me obviously

but don’t you have to pitch to the hitter’s weakness sometimes?? I mean if Vlad swings at anything close, don’t you pitch to that? If a player is getting older and sitting on off-speed don’t you throw more fastballs?

Vernon Well's Current Average = .179 Current # of outs = Don't ask him
TY Tony!

by MH252525 on May 8, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can't argue with his results.

If that’s the thought that gets him there, I don’t have a problem with it. Outside of the last Boston game, he hasn’t given up more than 2ER in any game.

by Turks Teeth on May 8, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Trumbo is like that even when frustrated by Domingo Ayala.

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by Greyson Peltier on May 8, 2011 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dont know what that means but....

Freddie Freeman (El Modena) had a nice game for the Braves tonight….good day for Century League Alumni!

by aaronkc7 on May 8, 2011 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just noticed that

all 12 of our hits today belonged to graduates of the Angels minor league teams.

All that for about 10% of the payroll

by Unclearnie on May 8, 2011 3:56 PM PDT reply actions  

he should be well discouraged by then

sounds about right on the timing. the old guys will be hobbling around the outfield

by hoffy loves the angels on May 8, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

um, pssst... This Abreu fellow you'd like to discard

has the highest on base percentage and the second most RBIs on this team.

"If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base." ~Dave Barry

by LAASurfin on May 8, 2011 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeesss!!! Bring trout up and do what tampa did with longoria…he’s a can’t miss prospect that can grow even more in the big leagues! Worst case he brandon woods it and we send him down till next year.

by chap on May 8, 2011 4:12 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Am I the only one

worried about Borjous’ lack of stealing ability? He’s fast as hell, but keeps getting caught!

by Kody M on May 8, 2011 4:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Cleveland is a good team

Got to take the ugly wins with the ugly losses. It’s been a good home-stand for the Halos

by mustard_man on May 8, 2011 5:04 PM PDT reply actions  

I was at the game and had a good time. Other than Rodney's inning.

When I saw him get up and start throwing in the bullpen, I kept hoping that he would sit back down.

Sending Rodney out there after Downs only threw 4 pitches was just bizarre.

by ~MMP~ on May 8, 2011 5:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Rev, glad to see that your dog is a wonder dog.

He should hang out with Rex, if it doesn’t cramp his style

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by Greyson Peltier on May 8, 2011 5:13 PM PDT reply actions  

In other news

Brandon Wood has reached base in 7 of his first 9 games with the Pirates… wtf.

by Kody M on May 8, 2011 5:27 PM PDT reply actions  

N->L

Brandon Wood 4 Prez

by miketrout on May 8, 2011 7:16 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

If I am not mistaken

we have only lost two series so far this season (and split one 2-2 with the Red Sox)

by kbrown2225 on May 8, 2011 5:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Congrats to Scioscia...

It was a fun game to be at. No Indian fans near me (woohoo). It was fun to see Scioscia get the gatorade dumped on him.
The young guys had a great game.
Only thing I didn’t really like was that Rodney got the W – but we needed the win so I’ll take it.

Cautious yet very optimistic about the 2011 Season. Go Angels.

by angelsfan7 on May 8, 2011 5:48 PM PDT reply actions  

What at difference twelve years makes.

Congrats on 1000 wins Scioscia.

~Till the Halo burns out...

by Zu Long on May 8, 2011 6:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Wish it was yesterday for my birthday

but mother’s day is good too. Was Mrs. Soth there?

by Halos in DE on May 8, 2011 6:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Sosh is the 5th active manager to reach 1000 wins

The list of leaders, via Hardball Talk:

1. Tony La Russa – 2658-2308 – .535 winning percentage
2. Jim Leyland – 1510-1536 – .495
3. Dusty Baker – 1423-1300 – .523
4. Bruce Bochy – 1292-1316 – .495
5. Mike Scioscia – 1000-817 – .550
6. Terry Francona – 955-861 – .526
7. Buck Showalter – 930-875 – .515
8. Ron Gardenhire – 815-676 – .547
9. Charlie Manuel – 786-628 – .556
10. Jim Tracy – 737-707 – .510

Of those managers, Sosh is second only to Charlie Manuel in terms of winning percentage. Pretty cool I thought.

by Bolt Deck on May 8, 2011 7:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Congrats Soth!

We love you baby!
(but please stop playing Premium so much)

by Raaddad on May 8, 2011 9:48 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I was sitting there watching and thinking....

about the day I read in the Register that Mike Scoiscia was going to be the manager and how it would probably be a silly choice and that Stoneman was going to hack the payroll down to nothing and we would be stuck with the West Coast equivalent of the Marlins…..not quite I guess…

by aaronkc7 on May 8, 2011 10:00 PM PDT reply actions  

And then... BOOM! the Giants take a beat-down in late '02.

And then… BOOM! Arte shows up on the Big A’s front steps with a bag ’o cash.
And then… BOOM! us old malcontents from The Days Before have to learn to smile and “be proud” and shit like that.

Ah, for the days of low expectations.

"If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base." ~Dave Barry

by LAASurfin on May 8, 2011 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, certainly we can always complain....

but I mean, come on, it was a pretty damn good 12 years to be a fan of this team.

by aaronkc7 on May 8, 2011 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sar. Chasm.

"If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base." ~Dave Barry

by LAASurfin on May 9, 2011 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Funny thing.

The Marlins ended up winning one too!

"We are not on an austerity program," Arte Moreno

by thebigtizzle on May 8, 2011 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

at least the Halos won

Don’t know, don’t care. People that criticize can kiss my ass. I don’t give a shit
-Kobe Bryant
You want to make history you have to do historic things- Kobe Bryant

by KB_24 on May 8, 2011 11:16 PM PDT reply actions  

FYI

After this game we are 2nd in batting average overall @ .271

Gotta have more Kowbell

by OCangels on May 9, 2011 3:20 AM PDT reply actions  

ha ha

Reggie Willits: The non-tender candidate of my dreams.

by hauldog on May 9, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don't make me dislike the Rockies by being a random douche.

They are my 2nd favorite team with my absolute favorite player in baseball.

"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen

by IE Angel on May 9, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

to be fair

Colorado Fan
leads me to believe that he is a fan of Colorado.

"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen

by IE Angel on May 9, 2011 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Inland Empire.

and did you wink face? haha.

"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen

by IE Angel on May 10, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Plus.

Our BABIP is always one of the highest in the league, that’s kind of the “lucky” side of the Angels. Whenever we’ve been most successful, we’ve had a top 3-5 BABIP.

2009 as an example, the Red Sox sweep season .322. #1 in BABIP
2002 as an example, World Series Year .303 #5 in BABIP (highest one that season was .311)
2007 as an example, AL West Champions, .315 #5 in BABIP

"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen

by IE Angel on May 9, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good Info

How do you compare the 2011 Team (team speed) compared to those other teams?

Seems like Hunter, Wells, Abreu, Kendrick, Trumbo, Mathis can clog around a little bit, with limited IF singles. Bourjos has electrifying speed, and will get a lot of IF hits. Same with Aybar/Izturis.

“The average BABIP for hitters is around .290 to .310. If you see any player that deviates from this average to an extreme, they’re likely due for regression. However, hitters can influence their BABIPs to some extent. For example, speedy hitters typically have high career BABIP rates (like Ichiro and his .357 career BABIP), so don’t expect all players to regress to league average – instead, look at a player’s career BABIP rate.”

by Colorado Fan on May 9, 2011 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

There are a lot of people here way more educated on Sabermetric stuff than I am

but, my opinion, Bourjos is speedy as hell but strikes out way too much, Izturis and Aybar are similar players to each other but Aybar is faster and Izturis is infinitely smarter. Trumbo and Howie are a lot faster than they look (Trumbo had 3 infield hits in 2 games during the cleveland series).

Mathis is perhaps the worst hitter in the history of baseball. Conger can mash and he is fast-ish for a catcher.

"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen

by IE Angel on May 10, 2011 12:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good to know

and I mean that

Reggie Willits: The non-tender candidate of my dreams.

by hauldog on May 10, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't it be more meaningful

too look at which team had the largest difference between their BABIP and BA?

Reggie Willits: The non-tender candidate of my dreams.

by hauldog on May 10, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

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