Mike Trout: Superstar or Bust?
With the Angel's AA affiliate Arkansas Traveler's finishing up their last game of the half today, I thought I'd take a deeper look at their star CF Mike Trout, a consensus 1st or 2nd overall prospect. What I wanted to do was compare his minor league numbers with some comparable major league stars of the past 20 years. I looked at six traits Trout has shown up to this point:
1. High batting Average
Trout's hitting .325 this season and .339 overall in his minor league career, numbers supplemented by...
2. High walk totals
Rather than just hack his way on like former Angels top prospect Howie Kendrick, Trout's shows a superb eye, drawing 88 walks per 162 games. His patients elevates his OBP to .426 overall, virtually identical with his 2011 total.
3. High Stolen Base Totals
Of all Trout's skills, his speed is most evident. He rates an 80 (out of 80) on the speed scale in scouting reports, like Peter Bourjos, unusual due to his 220 pound frame. His instincts are solid as well, with a stolen base percentage near 80% this season and overall.
4. Moderate Power
Trout came up as a slap hitter but as his build suggests, his home run totals should increase. In fact, they already have, as he's hit just one fewer home run than all of last year and over 162 games would eclipse 20. I do see him as a 25 home run type down the line, although unless his speed slackens, I wouldn't expect him to emerge as an all-out slugger.
5. Youth
Trout's development has been rapid. Drafted at the age of 17, he's already in AA, two years younger than any of his teammates. Were Trout's progression to remain constant, he'd be playing in the majors at the age of 20, unusual overall but more common among high-level players.
6. He plays CF
More recent analytic readings have shown how important one's position is when looking at contribution. A .300/.400/.500 line means far more coming from a SS than it does a 1B. Trout, playing the relatively difficult CF and playing it well, adds to his value. A later transition to the corner outfield to suit Peter Bourjos' glove would require more offense to maintain his value, but for now, Trout's a CF and there haven't been many great ones in years.
Below are seven players who share most of his traits, although like Bill James said, a great player is generally unique. I mean, try comparing Willie Mays to someone. Hopefully, Trout will emerge as a big leaguer with his own skill sets not quite shared by anyone else.
Mike Trout:
| Year | Age | Tm | Lg | Lev | Aff | G | PA | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | SB | CS | BB | SO | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2009 | 17 | 2 Teams | 2 Lgs | Rk-A | LAA | 44 | 207 | 179 | 30 | 63 | 7 | 7 | 1 | 25 | 13 | 2 | 22 | 34 | .352 | .419 | .486 | .905 |
| 2009 | 17 | Angels | ARIZ | Rk | LAA | 39 | 187 | 164 | 29 | 59 | 7 | 7 | 1 | 25 | 13 | 2 | 18 | 28 | .360 | .418 | .506 | .925 |
| 2009 | 17 | Cedar Rapids | MIDW | A | LAA | 5 | 20 | 15 | 1 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 6 | .267 | .421 | .267 | .688 |
| 2010 | 18 | 2 Teams | 2 Lgs | A-A+ | LAA | 131 | 600 | 508 | 106 | 173 | 28 | 9 | 10 | 58 | 56 | 15 | 73 | 85 | .341 | .428 | .490 | .918 |
| 2010 | 18 | Cedar Rapids | MIDW | A | LAA | 81 | 368 | 312 | 76 | 113 | 19 | 7 | 6 | 39 | 45 | 9 | 46 | 52 | .362 | .454 | .526 | .979 |
| 2010 | 18 | Rancho Cucamonga | CALL | A+ | LAA | 50 | 232 | 196 | 30 | 60 | 9 | 2 | 4 | 19 | 11 | 6 | 27 | 33 | .306 | .388 | .434 | .821 |
| 2011 | 19 | Arkansas | TL | AA | LAA | 68 | 305 | 255 | 60 | 83 | 12 | 9 | 9 | 26 | 26 | 8 | 37 | 55 | .325 | .425 | .549 | .974 |
| 3 Seasons | 243 | 1112 | 942 | 196 | 319 | 47 | 25 | 20 | 109 | 95 | 25 | 132 | 174 | .339 | .426 | .505 | .931 | |||||
Carlos Beltran: 58.9 WAR over 14 seasons
| Year | Age | Tm | Lg | Lev | Aff | G | PA | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | SB | CS | BB | SO | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1995 | 18 | Royals | GULF | Rk | KCR | 52 | 200 | 180 | 29 | 50 | 9 | 0 | 0 | 23 | 5 | 3 | 13 | 30 | .278 | .332 | .328 | .659 |
| 1996 | 19 | 2 Teams | 2 Lgs | A--A | KCR | 70 | 294 | 257 | 32 | 64 | 10 | 3 | 7 | 29 | 11 | 2 | 32 | 76 | .249 | .330 | .393 | .723 |
| 1996 | 19 | Spokane | NORW | A- | KCR | 59 | 251 | 215 | 29 | 58 | 8 | 3 | 7 | 29 | 10 | 2 | 31 | 65 | .270 | .359 | .433 | .791 |
| 1996 | 19 | Lansing | MIDW | A | KCR | 11 | 43 | 42 | 3 | 6 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 11 | .143 | .163 | .190 | .353 |
| 1997 | 20 | Wilmington | CARL | A+ | KCR | 120 | 473 | 419 | 57 | 96 | 15 | 4 | 11 | 46 | 17 | 7 | 46 | 96 | .229 | .311 | .363 | .673 |
| 8 Seasons | 372 | 1523 | 1341 | 218 | 363 | 70 | 11 | 42 | 191 | 53 | 20 | 154 | 293 | .271 | .349 | .433 | .782 | |||||
Beltran is about as underrated as an 18 million dollar a year player can get. While his Mets career looks uneven, Beltran's proven to be strong in just about every category, including GG-caliber CF defense. So that's what makes his early minor league totals look so off. Nothing stands out. He didn't get on base, he didn't hit for power, didn't run...Even his K/BB rates were pedestrian. It wasn't until his age 21 season split between A and AA that things took off and he posted a .313/.394/..553 line in 99 games before a desperate Royals team brought him up and he took ROY honors in 1999. But it took him another year afterward to really adjust and become the 30-30 threat with a good eye. And Trout, as we can see, is clearly ahead of Beltran's pace in every category.
Bernie Williams: 47.3 WAR over 16 seasons
| Year | Age | Tm | Lg | Lev | Aff | G | PA | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | SB | CS | BB | SO | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1986 | 17 | Yankees | GULF | Rk | NYY | 61 | 274 | 230 | 45 | 62 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 25 | 33 | 12 | 39 | 40 | .270 | .374 | .343 | .717 |
| 1987 | 18 | 2 Teams | 2 Lgs | A--A | NYY | 50 | 200 | 164 | 24 | 43 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 19 | 18 | 4 | 28 | 36 | .262 | .381 | .305 | .686 |
| 1987 | 18 | Oneonta | NYPL | A- | NYY | 25 | 106 | 93 | 13 | 32 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 15 | 9 | 3 | 10 | 14 | .344 | .410 | .387 | .797 |
| 1987 | 18 | Fort Lauderdale | FLOR | A | NYY | 25 | 94 | 71 | 11 | 11 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 9 | 1 | 18 | 22 | .155 | .348 | .197 | .545 |
| 1988 | 19 | Prince William | CARL | A | NYY | 92 | 408 | 337 | 72 | 113 | 16 | 7 | 7 | 45 | 29 | 11 | 66 | 66 | .335 | .449 | .487 | .935 |
| 1989 | 20 | 2 Teams | 2 Lgs | AA-AAA | NYY | 141 | 578 | 476 | 84 | 114 | 19 | 9 | 13 | 58 | 37 | 18 | 85 | 110 | .239 | .362 | .399 | .761 |
| 1989 | 20 | Albany-Colonie | EL | AA | NYY | 91 | 384 | 314 | 63 | 79 | 11 | 8 | 11 | 42 | 26 | 13 | 60 | 72 | .252 | .381 | .443 | .823 |
| 1989 | 20 | Columbus | IL | AAA | NYY | 50 | 194 | 162 | 21 | 35 | 8 | 1 | 2 | 16 | 11 | 5 | 25 | 38 | .216 | .325 | .315 | .639 |
| 9 Seasons | 660 | 2845 | 2370 | 446 | 676 | 117 | 39 | 48 | 297 | 185 | 80 | 413 | 455 | .285 | .394 | .428 | .823 |
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Williams didn't become regular with the Yankees until the age of 24 or a star until the age of 26, but he did have a quick run through the Yankee system, at least initially. His age 19 season was stellar and pretty similar to what Trout did in his age 18 season. But Williams hit the skids a little the next year, although his high walk rate suggested a rebound. Williams put up a .409 OBP the next season back in AA and slowly made his way into the Yankee lineup. But he does prove that even eventual All-Stars can have bumps in the road and certain derailments.
B.J. Upton: 14.8 WAR over 7 seasons
| Year | Age | Tm | Lg | Lev | Aff | G | PA | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | SB | CS | BB | SO | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2003 | 18 | 2 Teams | 2 Lgs | A-AA | TBD | 130 | 580 | 489 | 84 | 145 | 30 | 6 | 8 | 62 | 40 | 21 | 73 | 105 | .297 | .390 | .431 | .821 |
| 2003 | 18 | Charleston SC | SALL | A | TBD | 101 | 453 | 384 | 70 | 116 | 22 | 6 | 7 | 46 | 38 | 17 | 57 | 80 | .302 | .394 | .445 | .839 |
| 2003 | 18 | Orlando | SOUL | AA | TBD | 29 | 127 | 105 | 14 | 29 | 8 | 0 | 1 | 16 | 2 | 4 | 16 | 25 | .276 | .376 | .381 | .757 |
| 2004 | 19 | 2 Teams | 2 Lgs | AAA-AA | TBD | 98 | 433 | 368 | 86 | 116 | 24 | 2 | 14 | 51 | 20 | 5 | 56 | 100 | .315 | .410 | .505 | .915 |
| 2004 | 19 | Montgomery | SOUL | AA | TBD | 29 | 120 | 104 | 21 | 34 | 7 | 1 | 2 | 15 | 3 | 0 | 14 | 28 | .327 | .407 | .471 | .878 |
| 2004 | 19 | Durham | IL | AAA | TBD | 69 | 313 | 264 | 65 | 82 | 17 | 1 | 12 | 36 | 17 | 5 | 42 | 72 | .311 | .411 | .519 | .930 |
| 2005 | 20 | Durham | IL | AAA | TBD | 139 | 631 | 545 | 98 | 165 | 36 | 6 | 18 | 74 | 44 | 13 | 78 | 127 | .303 | .392 | .490 | .882 |
| 6 Seasons | 485 | 2159 | 1833 | 346 | 544 | 108 | 18 | 50 | 234 | 154 | 59 | 281 | 426 | .297 | .393 | .457 | .850 | |||||
B.J. Upton, unlike his budding star brother Justin, proves how excess expectations can make even a solid career disappointing. Initially a SS with brutal defensive numbers, he was moved to CF in 2007 and put up a 4.7 WAR and looked better on offense and comfortable with the glove for the first time. Now 26, it doesn't look like Upton will be a superstar, and some of the signs were there in the minors. His K totals were high and he never hit for great power. Still, a .315/.410/.505 line as a 19 year old primarily in AAA is pretty awesome. His stolen base % was improving, he showed good gap power, and the walks were there. But Upton's swing and miss totals have been a major problem in the majors and keep his OBP down. In fact, all his other numbers are pretty comparable to that last AAA season in 2005: He averages 17 home runs, 76 walks, and 40 stolen bases per 162 games. Trout, with a high K total this season, may follow in Upton's footsteps.
Andruw Jones: 59.3 WAR over 16 seasons
| Year | Age | Tm | Lg | Lev | Aff | G | PA | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | SB | CS | BB | SO | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1994 | 17 | 2 Teams | 2 Lgs | Rk | ATL | 63 | 269 | 238 | 42 | 69 | 14 | 3 | 3 | 26 | 21 | 11 | 25 | 44 | .290 | .368 | .412 | .780 |
| 1994 | 17 | Danville | APPY | Rk | ATL | 36 | 156 | 143 | 20 | 48 | 9 | 2 | 1 | 16 | 16 | 9 | 9 | 25 | .336 | .385 | .448 | .832 |
| 1994 | 17 | Braves | GULF | Rk | ATL | 27 | 113 | 95 | 22 | 21 | 5 | 1 | 2 | 10 | 5 | 2 | 16 | 19 | .221 | .345 | .358 | .703 |
| 1995 | 18 | Macon | SALL | A | ATL | 139 | 632 | 537 | 104 | 149 | 41 | 5 | 25 | 100 | 56 | 11 | 70 | 122 | .277 | .372 | .512 | .884 |
| 1996 | 19 | 3 Teams | 3 Lgs | A+-AA-AAA | ATL | 116 | 511 | 445 | 115 | 151 | 27 | 5 | 34 | 92 | 30 | 10 | 60 | 97 | .339 | .421 | .652 | 1.072 |
| 1996 | 19 | Durham | CARL | A+ | ATL | 66 | 289 | 243 | 65 | 76 | 14 | 3 | 17 | 43 | 16 | 4 | 42 | 54 | .313 | .419 | .605 | 1.024 |
| 1996 | 19 | Greenville | SOUL | AA | ATL | 38 | 176 | 157 | 39 | 58 | 10 | 1 | 12 | 37 | 12 | 4 | 17 | 34 | .369 | .432 | .675 | 1.107 |
| 1996 | 19 | Richmond | IL | AAA | ATL | 12 | 46 | 45 | 11 | 17 | 3 | 1 | 5 | 12 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 9 | .378 | .391 | .822 | 1.214 |
| 5 Seasons | 332 | 1460 | 1260 | 268 | 381 | 82 | 13 | 66 | 229 | 110 | 32 | 161 | 269 | .302 | .388 | .545 | .934 | |||||
Jones, like Griffey Jr. below, is a poster boy for young success in the majors. And it's easy to see why he made the talented Braves roster so quickly. Big power, big speed, solid batting average, some walks, plus that spectacular defense that had him save 28 runs more than average in his rookie season. I think Jones has more power than Trout ever will, but he only hit .300 once as a big leaguer, something Trout looks to do in his sleep. While Jones did hit .339 in his final minor league year, his BA was more pedestrian beforehand. Trout's hit .300 at every level with more walks and fewer strikeouts. But until his weight ballooned and Atlanta dumped him, Jones put up HOF numbers with the glove and very good ones with the bat.
Ken Griffey Jr.: 78.5 WAR over 22 seasons
| Year | Age | Tm | Lg | Lev | Aff | G | PA | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | SB | CS | BB | SO | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1987 | 17 | Bellingham | NORW | A- | SEA | 54 | 228 | 182 | 43 | 57 | 9 | 1 | 14 | 40 | 13 | 6 | 44 | 42 | .313 | .445 | .604 | 1.049 |
| 1988 | 18 | 2 Teams | 2 Lgs | A-AA | SEA | 75 | 324 | 280 | 60 | 91 | 18 | 4 | 13 | 52 | 36 | 11 | 39 | 51 | .325 | .415 | .557 | .972 |
| 1988 | 18 | San Bernardino | CALL | A | SEA | 58 | 256 | 219 | 50 | 74 | 13 | 3 | 11 | 42 | 32 | 9 | 34 | 39 | .338 | .431 | .575 | 1.007 |
| 1988 | 18 | Vermont | EL | AA | SEA | 17 | 68 | 61 | 10 | 17 | 5 | 1 | 2 | 10 | 4 | 2 | 5 | 12 | .279 | .353 | .492 | .845 |
| 3 Seasons | 130 | 555 | 465 | 103 | 148 | 27 | 5 | 27 | 92 | 49 | 17 | 83 | 94 | .318 | .425 | .572 | .997 | |||||
The joke is that every power arm from Texas is the next Nolan Ryan. Well, every hot CF is the next Ken Griffey Jr., a superstar prospect taken #1 overall by the Mariners as a 17 year old and someone who flat out dominated in his brief stint in the minors. Although, except for the extra power numbers, he looks pretty similar to Trout. Trout actually has the same OBP as Griffey and his steal totals are roughly equal. Griffey, called up at the age of 19, made a quick impact and posted a 155 OPS+ at age 21. His pop exceeded Trout's then and probably always will, but Mike does have the advantage of better speed (Griffey settled in as a 15 steals a year type). Griffey's early career was actually the sort of high average, moderate power skill set I think Trout will follow, although Griffey exploded for 45 bombs in 1993 when he finally settled in. While Trout's a leadoff-man now, I suppose Griffey between 1989 and 1992 represents a sort of ceiling for a young Trout until his develops his stroke. However, I think Trout's development will involve batting titles, not home run crowns.
Carl Crawford: 27.0 WAR over 10 seasons
| Year | Age | Tm | Lg | Lev | Aff | G | PA | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | SB | CS | BB | SO | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1999 | 17 | Princeton | APPY | Rk | TBD | 60 | 278 | 260 | 62 | 83 | 14 | 4 | 0 | 25 | 17 | 4 | 13 | 47 | .319 | .350 | .404 | .754 |
| 2000 | 18 | Charleston SC | SALL | A | TBD | 135 | 609 | 564 | 99 | 170 | 21 | 11 | 6 | 57 | 55 | 9 | 32 | 102 | .301 | .342 | .410 | .751 |
| 2001 | 19 | Orlando | SOUL | AA | TBD | 132 | 585 | 537 | 64 | 147 | 24 | 3 | 4 | 51 | 36 | 20 | 36 | 90 | .274 | .323 | .352 | .675 |
| 2002 | 20 | Durham | IL | AAA | TBD | 85 | 383 | 353 | 59 | 105 | 17 | 9 | 7 | 52 | 26 | 8 | 20 | 69 | .297 | .335 | .456 | .791 |
| 4 Seasons | 412 | 1855 | 1714 | 284 | 505 | 76 | 27 | 17 | 185 | 134 | 41 | 101 | 308 | .295 | .336 | .400 | .736 | |||||
Crawford may be having a brutal season now, but the 4 time all star has come to represent a sort of prototype for speedy outfielders. And if Crawford's career looks a little disappointing in terms of numbers (106 OPS+, about 10 homers a year from the corner outfield) his paychecks should wet Trout's appetite. Because Trout certainly has a higher ceiling. It's surprising that Crawford developed into such a high average player because his 1/3 K/BB ration leaves plenty to be desired. Crawford never did develop much plate discipline and his power totals took awhile to mature. His .736 OPS compares badly to Trout's .931, and Mike's doing at a CF. Crawford never was ranked higher than 59th on Baseball America's prospect lists, and his stolen base totals and percentages don't exceed Trout's. And still he became a very good if not great major league outfielder. While plenty can go wrong in Trout's development, at this point in his career, he's well ahead of the Crawford curve.
Andrew McCutchen: 11.5 WAR over 3 seasons
| Year | Age | Tm | Lg | Lev | Aff | G | PA | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | SB | CS | BB | SO | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2005 | 18 | 2 Teams | 2 Lgs | Rk-A- | PIT | 58 | 254 | 210 | 48 | 65 | 12 | 4 | 2 | 35 | 17 | 2 | 37 | 30 | .310 | .419 | .433 | .852 |
| 2005 | 18 | Pirates | GULF | Rk | PIT | 45 | 192 | 158 | 36 | 47 | 9 | 3 | 2 | 30 | 13 | 1 | 29 | 24 | .297 | .411 | .430 | .842 |
| 2005 | 18 | Williamsport | NYPL | A- | PIT | 13 | 62 | 52 | 12 | 18 | 3 | 1 | 0 | 5 | 4 | 1 | 8 | 6 | .346 | .443 | .442 | .885 |
| 2006 | 19 | 2 Teams | 2 Lgs | A-AA | PIT | 134 | 590 | 531 | 89 | 156 | 24 | 4 | 17 | 74 | 23 | 8 | 50 | 111 | .294 | .359 | .450 | .809 |
| 2006 | 19 | Hickory | SALL | A | PIT | 114 | 503 | 453 | 77 | 132 | 20 | 4 | 14 | 62 | 22 | 7 | 42 | 91 | .291 | .356 | .446 | .802 |
| 2006 | 19 | Altoona | EL | AA | PIT | 20 | 87 | 78 | 12 | 24 | 4 | 0 | 3 | 12 | 1 | 1 | 8 | 20 | .308 | .379 | .474 | .854 |
| 2007 | 20 | 2 Teams | 2 Lgs | AA-AAA | PIT | 135 | 570 | 513 | 77 | 136 | 24 | 3 | 11 | 53 | 21 | 4 | 48 | 94 | .265 | .329 | .388 | .717 |
| 2007 | 20 | Altoona | EL | AA | PIT | 118 | 498 | 446 | 70 | 115 | 20 | 3 | 10 | 48 | 17 | 1 | 44 | 83 | .258 | .327 | .383 | .710 |
| 2007 | 20 | Indianapolis | IL | AAA | PIT | 17 | 72 | 67 | 7 | 21 | 4 | 0 | 1 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 11 | .313 | .347 | .418 | .765 |
| 5 Seasons | 511 | 2223 | 1967 | 330 | 563 | 96 | 22 | 43 | 232 | 105 | 35 | 220 | 346 | .286 | .362 | .423 | .785 | |||||
McCutchen is in the midst of a monster season and a near-9.0 WAR, thanks to a broad offensive skill set and suddenly excellent defense. His minor league track track record, especially when viewed following 2 very solid major league seasons, looks underwhelming. Like Crawford, McCutchen showed some skills in the farm system but his tools initially exceeded his numbers. The steals were solid but unspectacular, as were the walks, hits, and power numbers. His age 19 season, where Trout is now, was spent mostly in single A, a level below Mike. And there, McCutchen put up an OPS about 160 points lower than Trout's. Still, he made the majors taking the Beltran route: crappy team (Pirates) need a spark and have nothing to lose, plus McCutchen's age 21 season saw him at least maintain his numbers in AAA. His BB/KK rate kept improving and he made a fairly seamless transition. But Trout's been better, and if McCutchen can develop into one of the best players in the N.L., so can Prince Fish.
There are other players you can plug in who might work, like Jason Heyward and Bobby Abreu or, going way back, Eric Davis or even Mickey Mantle. But the point is, of all these players, really only Ken Griffey Jr. has outperformed Trout and only by a little. And we're talking about perhaps the greatest prospect of all time. All the above players have had (or are having) at least solid careers. Of course, I did cherry pick and there certainly have been flameouts like Ruben Rivera. But all the numbers indicate that for Trout, anything less than a long, productive career will be a disappointment. And though no one can really predict a Hall of Fame career until it happens (Dwight Gooden, anyone?) Trout's chances are as good as anyone at the same age over the last decade. Good luck to him.
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Quick note
My computer was being a %&*#&$(# so I didn’t get much of a chance to edit it, so I apologize for all the bold italics.
ALSO: The stats in the charts run through each players age 20 seasons but the totals are their overall numbers.
He travels fastest who travels alone.
Thanks! Yellow means nothing
When I copied those charts from baseball-reference, they left a yellow line on where I clicked. I was having such a hard time posting for some reason that I just left it.
He travels fastest who travels alone.
no... I think they are just yellow with no meaning...
Look at Griffey Jr’s…
Ahhh... Yes... Finally back home in SoCal!!!
by stuck in Romania on Jun 28, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
These are the kind of guys the Angels need on the roster.
Big Trumbo-Trout type of guys that can smack the shit out of the ball. Give Trout more time to develop before you judge him too much. I am tired of the little bitty skinny slap hitters we’ve had over the last several years.
"It's our money," owner Arte Moreno said.
Try comparing Willie Mays to someone?
Okay, I will:
Mike Trout.
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Jun 27, 2011 8:11 PM PDT reply actions
Chuck Norris
is better than Mike and Willie. COMBINED.
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions
but less than MATHIS!!!
Ahhh... Yes... Finally back home in SoCal!!!
by stuck in Romania on Jun 28, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Hmm
Tr-jumbo Trout Special
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
by vlad IS my man on Jun 27, 2011 10:26 PM PDT reply actions
I actually had some mild (very mild) concerns about a month or so ago
Trout was hitting well, crushing lefties, but was only “OK” against righthanders. The overall numbers looked good, but they were skewed. Statistically, it was clear he needed more seasoning.
Those concerns have been alleviated. His OPS vs righthanded pitchers (.981) is now higher than against lefthanders (.960). Whatever the needed adjustment was, he apparently has made it. His June slash line of .363/.615/1.063 is ridiculous.
My only question now is: how much longer before he’s in Utah?
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." - Woody Hayes
by johnnyangel101 on Jun 27, 2011 10:55 PM PDT reply actions
I hope so.
Gonna see the Bees in Colorado Springs in a week and a half. Would be nice to see the future.
dude, sorry I missed hooking up with you last year in the Springs.
I moved back to Socal. Have fun at the game. I had a great time last year. Great to see guys like Trumbo, Conger and Kohn now with the big team.
Ahhh... Yes... Finally back home in SoCal!!!
by stuck in Romania on Jun 28, 2011 7:49 AM PDT up reply actions
It's all good.
Familys happen. Tough to coordinate things sometimes.The wife and I were able to hook the kids up with visiting relatives from SoCal and we decided to head south to the Springs to catch the game.
Hope to see all the youngsters including Trout.
clearly mike trout will be the greatest player of all time just...
keep mickey hatcher away from him
Where's the Mickey Mantle comp?
Ahhh... Yes... Finally back home in SoCal!!!
by stuck in Romania on Jun 28, 2011 1:02 PM PDT reply actions
Mick's minor league stats are sort of incomplete.
No walks, k’s or steals. But he did flat out rake.
He travels fastest who travels alone.
I'm on it guys
Next Tuesday I’ll be a hard throwing LHP
Mike Trout- The Man, The Future, The Legend
by miketrout on Jun 28, 2011 5:36 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Trust your stuff
Change their eye line. Or, don’t share your eyeliner. I forget which.
"The contract is brought up a lot. What it's going to take to get past it is winning. This organization took on the contract. I'm here to make them look good."~Vernon Wells
by George Kaplan on Jun 30, 2011 3:25 AM PDT up reply actions
time for SLC
ok, Bryce Harper was promoted today and the Texas League All-Star game is done (Trout 2-5, 1 RBI).
Time to promote him in Salt Lake.
Already saw a guy wearing a Trout jersey at the game
I was surprised to see that. It was an Angel jersey too.
I'm a Jays fan (I'm from Bluebird Banter)
But at this point, with all the hype about him, I think he is definately gonna be a superstar…I hope he doesn’t hurt my team too much in the future though.
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