Mark Trumbo: 2011 1st Half American League Most Valuable Rookie
Ok, for starters, don't get yourself all excited or anything. This is not a real award, nor has it actually happened. But it would be hard to argue otherwise.
Arguably, the top rookies so far in the AL are (in alphabetical order):
Zach Britton - Orioles
Jeremy Hellickson - Rays
Eric Hosmer - Royals
Michael Pineda - Mariners
Mark Trumbo - Angels
Most chatter to date surrounds the results of Pineda (because of his great numbers) and Hellickson (numbers almost as great as Pineda, but East Coast bias helps his cause). And those numbers for each of those guys ARE formidable, But we not just talking about numbers here. We are talking about VALUE TO THE TEAM.
Pineda: He was carrying a 2.58 ERA into the game this past Friday against the Angels, who pasted on him his worst loss of his career. Still, he is at 3.03 with a 1.035 WHIP and 2.9 BB/9 and 9.0 SO/9. Not bad for a career only 18 games old.
Hellickson: Not far behind Pineda at 3.21, 1.148 WHIP, 3.4 BB/9 and 5.9 SO/9 over the first 12 games of 2011. Those are a little off from the 10 games he posted in 2010.
(Compared to the other leading rookies in the AL, Trumbo crushes the competition in HR's, slugging percentage, runs scored and stolen bases. He also leads in OBP, Batting Average and doubles. Only Eric Hosmer is worthy of being spoken in the same sentence as Trumbo to this date.)
Both the Mariners and the Rays are falling in behind the playoff pack at the moment If either one of them turns things around their rookie pitcher becomes the near shoe-in for ROY. But of the Mariners even come close to sniffing the AL West title, Pineda will carry the chatterbox votes and win the award.
But here is my point: NONE of the other AL rookies were tasked with stepping into such a large hole in their respective teams as Trumbo has had to do stepping in to fill the expectations and dependencies surrounding "Morales version 2011". And even as he was asked to step into those shoes, we all were expecting that to be a temporary thing of a few weeks. Not only has Trumbo now been penciled in for the entire season, so far he has filled in quite credibly. Considering the skanky first half a lot of these hitters suffered through, Trumbo's production puts him up there as a top shelf TEAM MVP candidate, on a team locked in a death grip with Texas with the AL West lead, and surging (with the Rangers) towards the top of the leaderboards in the AL at the break.
Let's look at our benchmark: "Morales version 2009". 5th place in league MVP voting and the gold standard for our 2011 hopes and aspirations. Through 84 games and 306 at-bats that year Morales was hitting .288 with an OBP of .342, a SLG of .546 and OPS of .888. He had 88 hits, 17 of them HR's while drawing 27 BB's against 58 K's.
Trumbo is not Morales (yet?). Make no mistake. But how well has Trumbo - A ROOKIE - done trying to fill the fantastic numbers above?? In 84 games and only 296 at-bats (10 fewer), Trumbo is at .260 with an OBP of .305, a SLG of .483 and OPS of .788. And he has 77 hits, 17 HR's, 16 BB's against 65 K's. Those 17 HR's leads the team, and his 41 RBI's are just behind Hunter's 45. More walks would be very nice and we can assume that his propensity to see a lot of pitches will grant us this favor in the future. The bigger knock would be his gap power. Only 15 doubles and zero triples. In that same stretch in 2009, Morales had 24 doubles and 2 triples. Compared to Morales, Trumbo has sufficient speed. He has 8 steals in this window compared to Morales' 1.
So what does that comparison of Trumbo against our gold standard expectation say? Well, it tells me that although Trumbo is most definitely not any league MVP candidate, he most definitely IS one of the team MVP candidates merely for managing to close the gap between a Quinlan (which we didn't even have any more) to Morales (which is what we were hoping for). Morales was supposed to be our offensive anchor, absolutely critical to the success of this lineup. We don't have him. We might never have him again, actually. But what Trumbo is doing to make up for the loss of that huge hole in our offense vacated by injury is absolutely the most valuable thing any rookie is doing in the league for any team this season.
So not only is he on pace to compete for the AL ROY award at seasons end, Mark Trumbo can already claim the mythical title of American League Most Valuable Rookie for the 1st half of 2011. The next time you find yourself sitting in the left field bleachers, looking out at the suburbs hugging the hillsides, raise a beer to those homes just to the right of CF, which would be Trumbo's home town of Villa Park.
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I think Trumbo can win ROY
If he hits 30 homers and stays north of .250, I think he’s got a good shot at it. IT reallyd epends on how well Pineda and Hellickson do, especially if they lead their teams to any kind of respectable finish. But even a great starting pitcher only goes once every five days, and Trumbo is an every day player.
R.I.P. Nick Adenhart - Always an Angel
Agreed
30 HR has a level of sex appeal that could overcome an east coast bias and interestingly enough if Trumbo is snatching bombs directly from Pineda heads-up that may prove itself. Size matters and a big boy leading his team with 30+ should be a lock…
"We are not on an austerity program," Arte Moreno
by thebigtizzle on Jul 11, 2011 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Hmmmm...
If only someone Of Maicer Men could predict how many Hr’s he will hit…
Ahhh... Yes... Finally back home in SoCal!!!
by stuck in Romania on Jul 11, 2011 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
30 on the nose.
"Erstad says he's got it, Erstad...MAKES THE CATCH! The Anaheim Angels are the champions of baseball!" - Rory Markas, October 27, 2002
by Of Maicer and Men on Jul 12, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Good post
I agree with your assessment. Just one correction, Hunter (45) leads the team in RBIs not Trumbo (41).
Angels in 2011!
Fixed. Thanks.
(And that explains something that had me confused yesterday. I originally had Trumbo at 45 and when I went back and proofed the story, I saw that he REALLY only had 41. I was totally flummoxed as to where I got that 45 number. Now I know! Again, thanks for the catch.)
All-time Single Season GIDP Record: 36 (Jim Rice, 1984). Torii Hunter GIDP 2011 to date: 19 (53% of the way there, 57% of the way through the season!)
"Now I know!"
And knowing is half the battle!
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
Now I can't get the G.I. Joe theme song outta my head.
YOU DON'T KNOW THE POWER OF THE DARKSIDE.....
Hell Yes!!!
Trumbo is the fucking man! sorry i signed up a while back but lost my internet for a while.. If Trumbull Keeps this up, he is on pace for 35-81 tho the RBI could be way more. dude just has natural power! the Angels need to lock this Kid Up put him out in RF next year when kendrys comes back, kendrys & Trumbull in the same line up.. NASTY!!!!!!
Don't look now but do you remember a guy named Tim Salmon?
He won rookie of the year in ‘93 and by the All-Star break he had 17 HR’s (31 total). Trumbo just matched that number of HR’s the first half and if he keeps on rolling with that power of his, I really think he can definitely be considered a ROY Award winner.
Representing the Angels in Sin City.
by maze88 on Jul 11, 2011 9:29 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Careful what you say about the old number 44
For some reason he is revered like a god around here! lol
Mainly because we all wish we could pick up chick like he does!
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
That's what I've heard about him
A few years back my old roomate used to manage RA sushi in Tustin. He said Naps, Mathis, and Scot Shields used to come in after games together all the time. He said Napoli was really arrogant and picked up lots of chicks but Mathis and Shields were really nice guys. He also said Shields smoked like a chimney and was always bumming cigs off him!
or because we like having a catcher who hits
25 HR a season
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by 2pintsofbooze on Jul 11, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
+1
A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.
by angelslogic on Jul 11, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Rec'd, even though productive outs clearly have more value.
Pollyanna is dead. But don't get mad at me, I didn't kill her. Tony Reagins did.
That's crazy talk
I’d rather have a cather with a low CERA . . . oh wait Napoli does have the lowest CERA this year. haha, oh well
Seriously though, I really wasn’t that high on Napoli last year and was indifferent about losing him, but I’m starting to warm to him this year now that he’s killing it for my fantasy team (unfortunately while playing in Texas), and finally realizing how much better he was than Mathis.
it took Nap playing for your fantasy team
to realize he is better than Mathis?
mmmmmkay
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by 2pintsofbooze on Jul 11, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
No I always knew he was better
Just never thought he was a whole lot better. To me it always seemed like he hit a lot of his homers when they didn’t matter much, and when we really needed a hit he would strikeout or ground out.
It took him playing for my fantasy team (and hitting at the Ballpark in Arlington) for me to like him more.
There also seems to be a much bigger spotlight on Mathis than ever before. His suckiness used to be a bit more under the radar.
I always felt the same way about Napoli
I guess sometimes you don’t realize how valuable someone is til they’re gone.
Why must Mathis suck so bad!
by Hudlers_Heros on Jul 11, 2011 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Reggie? Chili? Doug Howard? Any other #44's that were revered?
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." - Woody Hayes
by johnnyangel101 on Jul 11, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I love the fact that last year everyone said that his Minor League stats would never translate to the Big League...
It’s incredible to see what he has done. the guy is a monster.
Ahhh... Yes... Finally back home in SoCal!!!
by stuck in Romania on Jul 11, 2011 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Trumbo has done great and think he will stay on a roll
due to his interest in evaluating every AB, pitcher, and situation.
He seems to work hard on making adjustments to what’s getting pitched at him
It would not surprise me
if Hellickson or Pineda simply just hit a wall later in the year due to too many innings pitched and have to be shut down for awhile. Happened to Latos last year.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Poll error...
“Nobody west of St Louis has heard of him”
Uh, we are west of St. Louis and we have heard of him. I think you meant “EAST.” With all the Jeter stroking that happened this weekend, SURELY, nobody on the East side of this great nation has heard of Mark Jumbo.
:)
I love this team.
fixed. thx.
All-time Single Season GIDP Record: 36 (Jim Rice, 1984). Torii Hunter GIDP 2011 to date: 19 (53% of the way there, 57% of the way through the season!)
Are you saying Derek Jeter is going to win RotY?
by Halowitz on Jul 11, 2011 10:30 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
It was one huge "cock block" for Trumbo, IMHO.
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Jul 11, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
a link to the 4-letter network...
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Jul 11, 2011 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Welcome Randy. Try to use the "reply" link under some comment you want to respond to.
(like I am here)
It will keep your comments in context and you will make a lot more sense.
Just look for the word “reply” out to the right of the alias of the person who made the comment you want to repond to, and click that word. It will open up a new comment window for you. For example, look for the word “reply” out to the right of my alias “Stirrups” just below this text. Clicking that will allow you to respond directly to this comment from me.
All-time Single Season GIDP Record: 36 (Jim Rice, 1984). Torii Hunter GIDP 2011 to date: 19 (53% of the way there, 57% of the way through the season!)
You rec the post. If at least two different people rec the post, it goes green and gets the thumbs up.
Rec (recommend) is one of the “actions” immediately to the right of the Reply button. You click “actions” and then you can rec.
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
by red floyd on Jul 11, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions 9 recs
Rec'd,
For pointing out that red was being a rec whore.
YOU DON'T KNOW THE POWER OF THE DARKSIDE.....
by halofolife on Jul 11, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
Rec'd for indicating Rec'ing a comment and then forgeting to actually do so.
This statement is true as of 12:46pm.
Pollyanna is dead. But don't get mad at me, I didn't kill her. Tony Reagins did.
by snowhor on Jul 11, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
hate it when people do that
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some douche named DFA from AN
by 2pintsofbooze on Jul 11, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd for pointing out rec'ing inconsistency
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
by red floyd on Jul 11, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
Rec'd because I like green messages.
Pollyanna is dead. But don't get mad at me, I didn't kill her. Tony Reagins did.
by snowhor on Jul 11, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd just because I... well fuck, I can't think of anything... but just because IS sometimes good enough by itself
All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine.
by Quad Fin Rider on Jul 12, 2011 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Rec'd for using your monthly f-bomb on this.
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
by red floyd on Jul 12, 2011 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd for stretching a useless post down to the skinniest of messages on the other side of my screen.
"Erstad says he's got it, Erstad...MAKES THE CATCH! The Anaheim Angels are the champions of baseball!" - Rory Markas, October 27, 2002
by Of Maicer and Men on Jul 12, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
the skinniest???
this can get way skinnier my friend
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by 2pintsofbooze on Jul 12, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
see...
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some douche named DFA from AN
by 2pintsofbooze on Jul 12, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
still going...
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by 2pintsofbooze on Jul 12, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
that might be it
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some douche named DFA from AN
by 2pintsofbooze on Jul 12, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
lets see
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by 2pintsofbooze on Jul 12, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
nice!
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by 2pintsofbooze on Jul 12, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
hmmm...
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some douche named DFA from AN
by 2pintsofbooze on Jul 12, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
That's all you got?
Pollyanna is dead. But don't get mad at me, I didn't kill her. Tony Reagins did.
by snowhor on Jul 12, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Dammit. I thought it would keep thinning the frame.
Pollyanna is dead. But don't get mad at me, I didn't kill her. Tony Reagins did.
by snowhor on Jul 12, 2011 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I win!
:)
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by 2pintsofbooze on Jul 12, 2011 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yes, you do.
You’re prize is that I will rec all of your posts so that one day you will be able to proclaim yourself one of the most rec’ed posters here.
Pollyanna is dead. But don't get mad at me, I didn't kill her. Tony Reagins did.
by snowhor on Jul 12, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
rec'd
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by 2pintsofbooze on Jul 12, 2011 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Can I play too?
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
by red floyd on Jul 12, 2011 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I think you are playing red. ;)
YOU DON'T KNOW THE POWER OF THE DARKSIDE.....
by halofolife on Jul 13, 2011 12:45 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I love gigantic green blocks of text
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
by red floyd on Jul 13, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Complete brain fart on my part.
Totally forgot to rec eyespy’s comment. And I can’t even blame drinking or prescription drug use.
YOU DON'T KNOW THE POWER OF THE DARKSIDE.....
by halofolife on Jul 11, 2011 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Good enough, I'm gonna rec this too just for the sake of general principle.
All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine.
by Quad Fin Rider on Jul 12, 2011 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd for recognizing that eyespy was pointing out that I was (not) being a rec whore.
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
by red floyd on Jul 11, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I wasn't being a rec whore, I was just answering the question.
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
by red floyd on Jul 11, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
rec'd
just cuz
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some douche named DFA from AN
by 2pintsofbooze on Jul 11, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Flagged for flagging a rec whore
That’s my whole raison d’etre for posting here on HH
All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine.
by Quad Fin Rider on Jul 12, 2011 12:07 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
It's not illegal
We just don’t like Eastern Sports Programming Network.
"Just another Halo victory" - Rory Markas
by Slyintine on Jul 11, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
lol
yea screw ESPN but since it was a positive Mark trumbull article i thought id list it
Light That Baby Up!!!!!
It's cool
Not all of us have to suppress the gag reflex when we see a link to ESPN. I don’t necessarily LIKE them, but they do have some good content on occasion.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
TRUE
you prolly wont see many links from them from me, i was just googlin Trmbo ROY and that article came up,
Mark trumbo HR Counter-17
Oh, it was an ANGELS story?
I just have a natural reflex to not click ESPN links nor to even tune in to their channel. I will take a look at your link, though. Thanks for posting!
I was just giving you a “ribbing.” :)
Peace.
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Jul 11, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Very rare occasion.
Usually its ZOMG YANKEES BOSUX LEBRON!!!!!
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
by red floyd on Jul 11, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Don't forget
PHILLIES
Swung on and missed, he struck him out! ~ Terry Smith
Angels' 2011 W-L record with the alternate red jersey: 13-7
by blast21dave on Jul 11, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
I really like Keith Law's stuff
And the fantasy writers are okay, but I’ve stopped reading them since I’m not playing fantasy this year.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
The ROY award has no "East Coast Bias" attached to it.
It’s a form of advanced scouting for the Boston’s, and New York’s, of the Major League Baseball guild.
by eyespy on Jul 11, 2011 11:53 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
4 of the past 6 AL ROYs played west of St. Louis.
Three of them for Oakland.
"Erstad says he's got it, Erstad...MAKES THE CATCH! The Anaheim Angels are the champions of baseball!" - Rory Markas, October 27, 2002
by Of Maicer and Men on Jul 12, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Whoops, 4 of last 7.
"Erstad says he's got it, Erstad...MAKES THE CATCH! The Anaheim Angels are the champions of baseball!" - Rory Markas, October 27, 2002
by Of Maicer and Men on Jul 12, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the only players Trumbo has to worry about for the ROY
Are Pineda and Hosmer. Pineda has been really good, and I wouldn’t be surprised if he finishes with a sub-3 ERA; but it is a long season (to use a cliche), and who knows if he’ll fade down the stretch. My guess is yes. Hosmer is another kind of talent…he could very well improve over the second half, and he might just get the ROY because of his immense hype. However, so far, I think it’s safe to say that Trumbo has been the best AL rookie so far, and I’m hoping he’ll get the award…even though it’s pretty much just for show.
Mark Trumbo: 2011 Rookie of the Year
by nicolasville on Jul 11, 2011 12:36 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I think you're right.
I’ve been impressed with what I’ve seen of Hosmer.
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
The powers will vote Hosmer as ROY
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb166/arnea_2007/Negrodamus.jpg
Just to jack up the value of him, and screw the Royals, by pricing him out of range for KC to afford him.
Is there some reason we're leaving Jordan Walden out of ROY discussion?
I mean, closers have gotten it the past two seasons, and Walden’s been scary all year.
"Erstad says he's got it, Erstad...MAKES THE CATCH! The Anaheim Angels are the champions of baseball!" - Rory Markas, October 27, 2002
by Of Maicer and Men on Jul 12, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Great article Stirrups
I’m still pleasantly surprised how the rookies have become the story of the season rather than the big splash of Wells, ect. as the season started. Bourjos always seemed the center of attention among the rookies while Trumbo was quietly gaining momentum with his determination and focus on improving himself offensively and defensively. He seemed to have started off a bit slow like everybody else this team but has exceeded most fans’ expectations into a top notch player.
"It's our money," owner Arte Moreno said.
Honestly, if Pineda wasn't in the mix, I'd toss Chatwood's name in the hat.
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
He's done exceptionally well especially bearing in mind years and experience...
…suspect he is helped a smidgen by the anaemic offenses of the AL West (haven’t checked, just seems possible)
I see red people
Nope
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.cgi?id=chatwty01&t=p&year=2011
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." - Woody Hayes
by johnnyangel101 on Jul 11, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think we've played that much against the AL West.
I pointed this out pre-season, that once again, the schedule makers were on crack. We didn’t play ANYONE in our division until the middle of May.
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
Here's a simple (albeit more doctrinaire) way to approach it.
1. Michael Pineda (Mariners): 2.4 WAR, 1.18 WPA
2. Mark Trumbo (Angels): 1.7 WAR, -0.07 WPA
3. Zach Britton (Orioles): 1.5 WAR, -0.2 WPA
4. Jeremy Hellickson (Rays): 0.8 WAR, 0.72 WPA
5. Eric Hosmer (Royals): 0 WAR, 0.11 WPA
If we’re going to try to compare pitchers and hitters, we may as well turn to metrics that attempts to do so (WAR, WPA). And if we want to look at value added to teams, we shouldn’t look at the standings — we should look at how much they contributed to that team winning games, which the above two do.
By those measures, only Pineda, Trumbo and Britton are in the running at this point, and Pineda is so far superior to Britton in every basic pitching stat, it’s hard to see this as a race between Pineda and Trumbo in the end.
I think, thusfar, the ROY scuttlebutt for Pineda is justified, but Trumbo could be a solid runner-up if trends continue.
assuming Pineda gets shut down early
Trumbo could have a decent shot at it
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by 2pintsofbooze on Jul 11, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Out of idle curiosity, where does Chat fit into that list.
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
There's also this MLB site rookies tracker....
MLB.com has been redesigning their stats pages a bit, given they’re about five years behind the competition.
From that, it looks as if some other names to add to the AL ROY chase would include: Jordan Walden, Vinnie Pestano, Aaron Crow, Al Alburquerque, and JP Arencibia.
Yes. Excellent find.
I used that as one of my research sites. If you cut it down to just the AL and click the category headers to sort on each category, you start to see Trumbo jump out.
But, really, my title is Most VALUABLE rookie. I agree that he has more to go, and needs others to falter a bit, before he might take the lead in the AL ROY. But as of now, at the break, none of those other contenders has made as valuable a contribution to their team as Trumbo. Pineda can make a claim, and use WAR as the measure, but Seattle ain’t going anywhere and Pineda didn’t have to step in and take over for a King Felix in their rotation. And Trumbo is an everyday contributor. So I am putting Trumbo over everybody right now in my made-up category.
All-time Single Season GIDP Record: 36 (Jim Rice, 1984). Torii Hunter GIDP 2011 to date: 19 (53% of the way there, 57% of the way through the season!)
This topic was covered to a degree in yesterday's post-game thread...
…not Trumbo as ROY as much as how much better he has been than anticipated.
I need to fess up here and acknowledge I thought he’d be a huge bust. In fact, Trumbo and Wood performed (so far) at the MLB level to about the exact opposite of what I anticipated. So much for my scouting skills. And so much Hatcher’s ability to ruin a perfectly good rookie swing.
Yeah, I saw that.
I had written this story and another on Sunday morning, and scheduled them in the editor to be published Thursday & Friday. But then I read that conversation in last night’s post-game thread and realized that I should move this one up to the day BEFORE the ASG while the idea was still fresh and topical for some.
All-time Single Season GIDP Record: 36 (Jim Rice, 1984). Torii Hunter GIDP 2011 to date: 19 (53% of the way there, 57% of the way through the season!)
I think the race is Pineda's to lose at this point
I’m not sure if the league is faster to adjust to pitchers or batters, but I assume one of them will be adjusted to and the eventual-ROY will do a better job of adjusting.

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