Sad but true find by Sam Miller

"With Napoli at 2.2 WAR and Mathis at -0.6, the difference is 2.8. The Rangers lead the Angels by three games." No mention of Mathis' CERA or his mythical intangibles however.

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WHO GIVES A CRAP!!!

……Ok Im sorry, I’m just a little sensitive about the Naps. I miss his sexiness!

"Every time I think I’m out, they pull me back in" -George Costanza

by Howie's Batting Title on Jul 25, 2011 12:34 PM PDT via mobile reply actions

Sensitive naps?

Use tape.

by lightupthehalo29 on Jul 25, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions

I'd have to shave um' first!!

"Every time I think I’m out, they pull me back in" -George Costanza

by Howie's Batting Title on Jul 25, 2011 2:29 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions

Scioscia's legacy is crumbling

laughingstock

by Rev Halofan on Jul 25, 2011 12:37 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs

I don't know about that

This certainly does not look good for him.

Can’t polish a turd.

I'd like to DFA Reagins

by hauldog on Jul 25, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions

yes you can...Mythbusters proved a turd IS polishable

I'm an Angels fan

by ladybug on Jul 26, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions

I will have to catch that episode

I'd like to DFA Reagins

by hauldog on Jul 26, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions

When the Angels win the division many more times before Scioscia leaves

I wonder what Halo’s Heaven legacy might be?

by Zaius on Jul 25, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions

As the fan focus group that finally brought him to his senses.

Mike Scioscia has zero credibility to get mad at anyone, or anything. He is the reason Jeff Mathis plays baseball.

by Stirrups on Jul 25, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions

That is delusional

In so many ways.

by Zaius on Jul 25, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions

I do aim high.

Mike Scioscia has zero credibility to get mad at anyone, or anything. He is the reason Jeff Mathis plays baseball.

by Stirrups on Jul 25, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions

If Arte fired all the players, Mike Scioscia would win every game

He is the only factor behind the Angels’ success.

by Suboptimal on Jul 25, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions

And if the Angels would just go Sabremetric

We could claim any success was totally due to advanced advanced-metric analysis.

Like Fat Bastard will ever let that happen….

by Zaius on Jul 25, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions

Let's fire everyone and decide games with a random number generator

This is what I’ve always wanted.

by Suboptimal on Jul 25, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions

I'd just be happy to find a true random number generator.

Mike Scioscia has zero credibility to get mad at anyone, or anything. He is the reason Jeff Mathis plays baseball.

by Stirrups on Jul 25, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions

Dead on.

But if you don’t mind, I’ll attribute your quote to luck…

by Zaius on Jul 25, 2011 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions

True, I'm still over-performing my Pythagorean rec/flag record

by Suboptimal on Jul 25, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions

Which currently stands at 1010 to 5, by the way.

So your plummet via regression is way overdue, and gonna be steeper than Tiger Woods’ drop in rankings.

Mike Scioscia has zero credibility to get mad at anyone, or anything. He is the reason Jeff Mathis plays baseball.

by Stirrups on Jul 25, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions

hope God reads HH

"We are not on an austerity program," Arte Moreno

by thebigtizzle on Jul 25, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions

Is that rec'd comments or rec'd posts?

Because I’ve rec’d way more than five comments. Six, maybe even seven.

by Suboptimal on Jul 25, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions

Total rec'd comments and rec'd posts that you received, combined.

SBN does not itemize that number.

But I can see that you have issued 2 flags and 91 rec’s to others.

Mike Scioscia has zero credibility to get mad at anyone, or anything. He is the reason Jeff Mathis plays baseball.

by Stirrups on Jul 25, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions

Don't flag me, bro!!!

Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.

by Commander_Nate on Jul 25, 2011 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions

That's what she said

Thanks, I’ll be here all week.

by Zaius on Jul 25, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions

Yeah, but you still have a ways to go before you top that "DFA" asshat over on AN

If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?

by red floyd on Jul 25, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Dr.%20Zaius&defid=3300118

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Jul 25, 2011 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions

very funny

and so applicable…

by Zaius on Jul 25, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Jul 25, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions

Have you heard from Zira or Cornelius lately?

If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?

by red floyd on Jul 25, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions

Does (-.6) mean that he hasn't gotten to the point where he's cost a game (-1.0) over a replacement?

I find this hard to believe.

"We are not on an austerity program," Arte Moreno

by thebigtizzle on Jul 25, 2011 12:40 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs

thebigtizzle's first rec.

Pollyanna is dead. But don't get mad at me, I didn't kill her. Tony Reagins did.

by snowhor on Jul 25, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions

why do you find it hard to beieve

Have you seen the piece of garbage called Jeff Mathis play the game – he is a little leaguer among men

by Rev Halofan on Jul 25, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

I think you misunderstood his comment.

Pollyanna is dead. But don't get mad at me, I didn't kill her. Tony Reagins did.

by snowhor on Jul 25, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions

He was saying he finds it hard to believe that Mathis hasnt cost us at least a game vs a replacement player

not that mathis is good, that he appears worse than a -.6 war gives him credit for.

by Balls and Strikes on Jul 25, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions

That's what I mean..

Given the amount of at-bats he’s had and the fact that people have already compiled between 1-3 positive WAR it would seem he’d have a bigger negative than half a game.

"We are not on an austerity program," Arte Moreno

by thebigtizzle on Jul 25, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions

oh

got it, yeah, totally agree, -2 easily for lack of Conger, let alone Napoli.

by Rev Halofan on Jul 25, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions

Only because UZR hasn't yet figured out how to measure how bad he is defensively

by Suboptimal on Jul 25, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions

^ bye and bye ^

by Rev Halofan on Jul 25, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions

I actually had already seen that comment, here on Halos Heaven.

SBNation article comment gets tweeted by Sam Miller which in turn gets posted on SBNation.

"Lose your pants and only good things can happen."-MayhemInTheHood

by Mayheminthehood on Jul 25, 2011 12:43 PM PDT reply actions

This one.

Mike Napoli is at 2.2 WAR (Fangraphs) so far this season. Jeff Mathis is at -0.6. Vernon Wells is at 0.4 WAR. Even better for the Rangers, Napoli’s 2.2 WAR came at the cost of Frank Francisco, who has put up -0.1 WAR in the Toronto bullpen.

The kicker for me: With Napoli at 2.2 WAR and Mathis at -0.6, the difference between the two is 2.8. The Rangers lead the Angels by three games.

Mike Trout- The Man, The NOW, The Legend

by miketrout on Jul 23, 2011 11:49 AM PDT via mobile reply actions

A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.

by angelslogic on Jul 25, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions

Lifted verbatim from here.

by Suboptimal on Jul 25, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions

Gah.

This kind of crazy recursion is why people should cite their sources.

"It is a haunted game in which every player is measured against the ghosts of all who have gone before."

by AlanFalcon on Jul 25, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions

Of course, I opted not to cite my own .sig so what do I know.

It’s from Ken Burns’ Baseball.

"It is a haunted game in which every player is measured against the ghosts of all who have gone before."

by AlanFalcon on Jul 25, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions

Citations never bothered Ken Burns either

by Suboptimal on Jul 25, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions

I actually saw it first on SBN Baseball

Pointed out by a certain notorious Rangers troll.

by Suboptimal on Jul 25, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions

yeah, rev's stalker pointed it out.

What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.

by clover_black on Jul 25, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions

my dogs mouths water

when i say EENKARAHHHH…

by Rev Halofan on Jul 25, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions

WAR or no WAR, here's the bottom line:

Napoli: .261/.373/.551 w/13 HR and 35 RBI’s
Mathis: .183/.231/.266 w/2 HR and 12 RBI’s

Ain’t even close.

A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.

by angelslogic on Jul 25, 2011 12:54 PM PDT reply actions

Wait---let me update this after Nap went 4 for 5 today and Mathis went 1-3.

Napoil: .276/.386/.564
Mathis: .186/.232/.273

A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.

by angelslogic on Jul 25, 2011 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions

To be clear,
I tweeted that, in quotation marks, with a link to the original comment. Wasn’t representing it as my own at all.

Game's the same, just got more fierce.

by Sam Miller OCR on Jul 25, 2011 1:27 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs

awe man, that was bad

I wish I could link to individual threaded quotes like that.

by eyespy on Jul 25, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions

figured it out

by eyespy on Jul 25, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions

I know

I called it a find by you, not your original info.

I discovered it by following you.

by gilbert on Jul 25, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions

Totally, you were clear. I just didn’t want it to be misunderstood, based on the convo about citation above.

Game's the same, just got more fierce.

by Sam Miller OCR on Jul 25, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions

That said, it'd been posted here several times in the past few days.

I think that’s why some posters were miffed. This was “found” on SBN, trafficked through this site, then sourced to someone else.

by Turks Teeth on Jul 25, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions

I apologize

I hadn’t seen it here. Will look harder next time.

by gilbert on Jul 25, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions

No need to apologize -- just suggesting why folks might've been tetchy.

Some folks spend a fair amount of time here, so interesting tidbits often hit the threads days before they become frontpage posts.

by Turks Teeth on Jul 25, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions

B-Ref's WAR has it 2.0 to -0.2, FWIW

by mattwelch on Jul 25, 2011 1:45 PM PDT reply actions

Remember, guys...

WAR and all that stuff are just subjective numbers based on assumption. CERA is a fact…the only fact, in fact.

Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.

by Commander_Nate on Jul 25, 2011 1:46 PM PDT reply actions

LOL

I’m surprised you had that much patience with that guy from the Lyle Spencer articles.

Swung on and missed, he struck him out! ~ Terry Smith

Angels' 2011 W-L record with the alternate red jersey: 14-8

by blast21dave on Jul 25, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions

I had no intention of spending that much time over there at first, but then my boss left the office for an all-day meeting leaving me with nothing to do. I couldn’t believe what was being argued. At first, I thought it was a joke, but boy, was I wrong.

Hopefully I opened some people’s eyes, though.

Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.

by Commander_Nate on Jul 25, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions

I kept reading on

thinking eventually he would state why they were subjective instead of just asserting their “subjectiveness”. Alas, no explanation was found or told.

Swung on and missed, he struck him out! ~ Terry Smith

Angels' 2011 W-L record with the alternate red jersey: 14-8

by blast21dave on Jul 25, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions

I loved this comment the most

I’m baffled by the so-called professional ethic of bloggers on a certain pro-Angels site. Since Lyle’s name is out there, these people should have to reveal their identities. This flat crosses the line. How in the world can they get money from responsible advertisers and have a respectable national editing staff with this language? I am beyond shock. I’m sorry this needs to be addressed. Speech should be protected at all costs, anonymous speech shouldn’t be when it done in public forums and is that personally offensive and defaming.

Because, of course, bloggers are all professionals who make tons of money by blogging, and not real people with real jobs who do what they do on the side because they are passionate about it.

by Suboptimal on Jul 25, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions

I have no idea how old he is

but his perceived age keeps on going up with each little nugget of lunacy I read from him.

Swung on and missed, he struck him out! ~ Terry Smith

Angels' 2011 W-L record with the alternate red jersey: 14-8

by blast21dave on Jul 25, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions

He's probably looking for his phone book as we speak

So he can find the number for the offices of the International Bloggers Union and officially lodge a complaint with their Department of Professional Ethics.

by Suboptimal on Jul 25, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions