Angels Stadium Workers Authorize Strike
Apparently negotiations between Arte & Co. + stadium workers not going so well. "It's our money." - A. Moreno
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I don't know what dollar amount they're seeking, but maybe instead of seeking a contract that pays something like $10 per hour, they should seek one that pays $6 per half hour.
Arte hates long-term commitments.
Pollyanna is dead. But don't get mad at me, I didn't kill her. Tony Reagins did.
by snowhor on Jul 29, 2011 1:26 PM PDT reply actions 4 recs
Arte could hire two $6 per hour workers to equal the output of one $12 per hour worker.
It works for pitching.
A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.
by angelslogic on Jul 29, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Since we also believe there is an in house solution....Tony Reagins should sell beers at the Big A then
Don’t know, don’t care. People that criticize can kiss my ass. I don’t give a shit
-Kobe Bryant
You want to make history you have to do historic things- Kobe Bryant
by KB_24 on Jul 29, 2011 2:02 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
If they go on strike I'll go be an usher for some games!!
I know that stadium very well, plus I’d look good in one of those hats.
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some douche named DFA from AN
haha true!
how funny would it be if that happened and then when they went back to work they refused to give me any of the giveaways as I walk through the gate? and vendors “accidentally” spill their sodas all over me while walking by, or chuck peanuts at me as hard as they can. and ushers make sure I don’t sneak into better seats, which I do every game.
damn, I better not do that. those people have some serious control of one of my favorite things in life.
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some douche named DFA from AN
by 2pintsofbooze on Jul 29, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
The nosebleeder seatholders will be sitting dugout-side
Awesomz!
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Jul 29, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll work the next homestand for free if it will help break SEIU
I’m dead serious. This is my real name, the Angels have it and my contact info on file.
by JeffJoiner on Jul 29, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'd be a scab! Lost my job this week.. Too bad I live in L.A.!!
"Every time I think I’m out, they pull me back in" -George Costanza
by Howie's Batting Title on Jul 29, 2011 2:53 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm a big fan of SEIU
They do great things for a lot of struggling laborers.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
by Gorbachav5 on Jul 29, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yep
They help them vote and everything!
You boys stick around--there'll be turkey and ice cream later!
Ha!
Nicely played, sir
All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine.
by Quad Fin Rider on Jul 30, 2011 12:38 AM PDT up reply actions
It is always the little guys that suffers..
the economy is not going to get better anytime soon….I am sure some unemployed folks will take those jobs..no problem. The unions are not doing current employees any favors.
by bighig on Jul 29, 2011 2:13 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I have zero sympathy for the unions
They price themselves out of the labor market, then bitch when the jobs go elsewhere. In the public sector they give us the hard working people of Caltrans and the DMV. Every Saturday afternoon, the people in my building exchange the mail that was delivered to the wrong mailbox by a union worker — and all the boxes are next to each other.
by JeffJoiner on Jul 29, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
One anecdote will just earn another.
I know a lot of really skilled union laborers, including my father and grandfather, and I also know a lot of private sector workers are lazy, poorly-skilled and inefficient, but muddle through due to gladhanding and convenient friendships.
It plays both ways. If you’re gonna generalize to all union laborers, you’re directly insulting every male member of my family — everyone of them veterans and union guys, working class dudes that worked themselves to death, frankly.
Generalization is just prejudice. Everything is in the specifics.
by Turks Teeth on Jul 29, 2011 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
tell the little guy to be faster getting my beer.
11 dollars an hour is fine for a janitor. They pick up trash and clean shit. That seems about right to me.
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
by clover_black on Jul 29, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
and I understand why workers for the A's get paid more
they’re cleaning up trashier trash and shittier shit
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by 2pintsofbooze on Jul 29, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
The Angels play in a government owned facility, too.
Pollyanna is dead. But don't get mad at me, I didn't kill her. Tony Reagins did.
Arte leases the stadium from Anaheim
His leasehold estate establishes his right to collect revenue as well as his financial obligations. In this case, he is obviously obligated to pay for the cleanup crew.
In Oakland, I believe the stadium authority provides all maintenence to its tenants (been awhile since I lived there) and pays for them. The A’s and Raider have contracts similar to if you and I were to rent a restaurant.
Arte pays the city about $2.5 million a year
While taking in $250 million in revenues. That probably doesn’t even cover the interest payments on the bonds the city took out to pay for the renovations, to say nothing of the services and infrastructure the city has to commit to the facility each year.
The last legal Ponzi
Funny how the second level of the sports stadium ponzi scheme is always that the city benefits from jobs, thus tax revenue, but the people end up begging for raises.
Theres a small little company whose office i can see from my window (aeg) pushing that game on the la city council now. Not very many people are successful in resisting this sensational drug. How can they? There are plenty of cities courting your favorite team with loads of cash. And no one’s even insisting they be good! Ah the glorious Ponzi
"Keep pushing for us." Ervin Santana after NO-HITTER (July 27, 2011)
by thebigtizzle on Jul 29, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm actually with you on this one, Tiz
Professional sports: a real-estate development program where men happen to play a game.
yep.
"Keep pushing for us." Ervin Santana after NO-HITTER (July 27, 2011)
by thebigtizzle on Jul 29, 2011 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Dental Plan
Lisa needs braces
Dental Plan
Lisa needs braces
"I too played shortstop for many years until I was struck down by Acne and Baby Fat" HST
by No Bologna Polonia on Jul 29, 2011 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
My second bigtiz rec.
It feels like a new world.
Let’s just not bring up Tony Reagins.
Pollyanna is dead. But don't get mad at me, I didn't kill her. Tony Reagins did.
lol
you just did.
"Keep pushing for us." Ervin Santana after NO-HITTER (July 27, 2011)
by thebigtizzle on Jul 30, 2011 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions
They are SEIU and were protesting during the last homestand.
Working part time at a baseball stadium shouldn’t pay you enough to live in OC and raise a family. It’s basically a college kid or retiree job.
by JeffJoiner on Jul 29, 2011 2:13 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, it's not like sports teams make any money
by Suboptimal on Jul 29, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
So every job they provide should pay for a house, wife, and a couple of kids?
We are talking about 81 home games a year, an exhibition or two, and maybe playoffs. A total of 81-90 working days a year. Even teachers work more than that.
It is a part-time job and should be treated as such.
Where does it say they're looking for more hours or an annual salary instead of higher hourly wages?
$11-$15 per hour is part-time work wage
Hell, just 10 years ago I worked chopping hay outside of Bakersfield for much less than that. Hard labor, 100 degree plus heat.
I just don’t see “Peanuts, get your peanuts here” as a $20 per hour job.
If they can get it, then that's the market.
Same argument as the players use at the other end of the spectrum.
Mike Scioscia has zero credibility to get mad at anyone, or anything. He is the reason Jeff Mathis plays baseball.
and if they cant get it then what?
by Balls and Strikes on Jul 29, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
then we carry our own damned peanuts into the park..
wait a minute..I already do that!
What about "salty nuts?"
Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.
by Commander_Nate on Jul 29, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Saw him when I was at the game in July. I thought they fired him?
A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.
remember when that guy came on here?
that was so awesome
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some douche named DFA from AN
by 2pintsofbooze on Jul 29, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
"I see you have a taste for salty nuts!"
That guy always cracks me up — pay the man!
All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine.
by Quad Fin Rider on Jul 30, 2011 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Peanut vendors are not part of this
They are hired by Aramark, who runs concessions. Just to clarify.
Also, I hope they get their raise, even if that means Arte has to raise ticket prices by a buck. It’s worth it for the job they do.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
More unintended consequences of the Wells trade?
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by Commander_Nate on Jul 29, 2011 2:14 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Get back too work you bums
$6.50 will do
I take it you don't have the DOV Secret Decoder Ring
You need to drink more ovaltine
-Quad Fin Rider
by DAD OF VLAD on Jul 29, 2011 2:15 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
CA minimum wage
is $8.00/hr
Swung on and missed, he struck him out! ~ Terry Smith
Angels' 2011 W-L record with the alternate red jersey: 14-8 (Home: 6-5 | Road: 7-4 || Day: 6-3 | Night: 7-6)
by blast21dave on Jul 29, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
AND?
I take it you don't have the DOV Secret Decoder Ring
You need to drink more ovaltine
-Quad Fin Rider
You're better off classifying them
as servers and independent contractors.
Swung on and missed, he struck him out! ~ Terry Smith
Angels' 2011 W-L record with the alternate red jersey: 14-8 (Home: 6-5 | Road: 7-4 || Day: 6-3 | Night: 7-6)
"Too blessed to unionize!!"
"Every time I think I’m out, they pull me back in" -George Costanza
by Howie's Batting Title on Jul 29, 2011 2:17 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
This thread is gonna get good, I can already tell
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by Commander_Nate on Jul 29, 2011 2:22 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm expecting some priceless quips about Vernon Wells, Tony Reagins, and the Angels payroll
And a long flame war about labor relations in the United States.
finger to nose
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some douche named DFA from AN
by 2pintsofbooze on Jul 29, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Pretty much the exact thought in my mind
Swung on and missed, he struck him out! ~ Terry Smith
Angels' 2011 W-L record with the alternate red jersey: 14-8 (Home: 6-5 | Road: 7-4 || Day: 6-3 | Night: 7-6)
****SPOILER ALERT!!!!!****
Sheeez man, what is this, your first time?
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by Commander_Nate on Jul 29, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm pro-union
And disagree with the comments above saying, in effect, union workers should be happy to have a job, regardless of what it pays. In general, unions protect workers from corporate abuses. The outcome is far from ideal, and we can all come up with examples of overpaid and under-qualified union workers, but in my opinion that is the exception and not the rule. Without collective bargaining, most workers have no hope of obtaining a fair wage, a safe workplace, insurance, or many of the things that I, among others on this site, take for granted. I do not begrudge any union worker for organizing in favor of what they believe is fair.
by Brody on Jul 29, 2011 2:46 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 4 recs
Please find me an example of a productive, cost effective union employee
Unions are like medicine. Good for when there was a problem (Industrial Revolution to end of WWII) but becoming toxic once the host is healthy (see: US auto industry and manufacturing 1970s on). If continued the union/medicine will eventually then make the host ill (see California, NJ, NY, etc.) until it eventually kills you (see entire Rust Belt).
my dad is a productive union worker
very productive in fact.
not trying to get in on the argument, just throwing that out there.
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some douche named DFA from AN
by 2pintsofbooze on Jul 29, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I know some really productive union workers from my days in a grocery store
But, compared to workers in non-union shops they are not really cost effective.
Still, it’s unfair for me to lump all union employees in with the SEIU and gov’t employees.
I’ll admit I overstepped a bit.
Unfortunately the need for a union is a lot of myth.
I agree with second half of your post, but have some issue with the 1st. Workers have a right to be outspoken, which is protected under the 1st Amendment. However labor is a commodity like it or not. People also have a right to buy it at what ever price is agreed upon.
All gains by the unions are passed on to the consumer in the form of higher prices. This infact actually hurts the poorer in the community who are forced to pay higher prices or do without some essentials; food, shelter, energy.
The fact that the Federal Reserve inflates every year destroys “real wages” and makes it necessary for labor to keep up with inflation. A hard money system would lead to stronger " real wages" because of a stronger dollar.
Sorry, I forgot this was a baseball site, not a political economy blog.
OK
I’m a productive, cost-effective union-represented employee. A public employee, as well. I forfeit over $100K a year that I could make in private practice in exchange for the security and reasonable working conditions secured by my representatives, and the public reaps the benefit of a skilled, knowledgeable and dedicated worker at a huge discount.
I don't think you can use yourself as an example
I, on the other hand along with many other private engineers, am forfeiting $30k more per year by not working at LADWP. No joke. I choose not to because I believe ceiling is higher in the private.
o_O
So...
… you’re really forfeiting your present $ 30K for higher future wages, then. Meaning, at some point, you would be a cost-effective LADWP employee.
"Laser show. So relax."
Francona is to McDonald and Jenks as Infant is to Plastic Bags and Matches
by nuthinboutnuthin on Jul 29, 2011 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm on the DL, I think
Rehabbing for the GRE. Don’t wanna push it, ya know? I’ll play Torii Hunter and crack jokes to the audience if that’s cool with everyone.
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by Commander_Nate on Jul 29, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
you're going to have to earn that gig
post a picture of your smile
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some douche named DFA from AN
by 2pintsofbooze on Jul 29, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
How's this?
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by Commander_Nate on Jul 29, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
you're name is Johnny?
I thought it was Nate
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some douche named DFA from AN
by 2pintsofbooze on Jul 29, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Disney is a #1 tourist destination
And it pays it’s part-time workers very similarly. The SEIU probably skims a couple bucks an hour off the workers at Angel Stadium, though.
then they do it at Disney as well.
Disney is 100% union.
I don't buy this "We're part of the team" card they are playing
If they were really a part of the Angels, they wouldn’t be so willing to take a walk!
"I too played shortstop for many years until I was struck down by Acne and Baby Fat" HST
by No Bologna Polonia on Jul 29, 2011 2:37 PM PDT reply actions 10 recs
Awesome
Swung on and missed, he struck him out! ~ Terry Smith
Angels' 2011 W-L record with the alternate red jersey: 14-8 (Home: 6-5 | Road: 7-4 || Day: 6-3 | Night: 7-6)
Wow
brought your A game today, baloney…
"Keep pushing for us." Ervin Santana after NO-HITTER (July 27, 2011)
by thebigtizzle on Jul 29, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I miss Phil Hartman
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some douche named DFA from AN
by 2pintsofbooze on Jul 29, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
never trust wives
I take it you don't have the DOV Secret Decoder Ring
You need to drink more ovaltine
-Quad Fin Rider
by DAD OF VLAD on Jul 29, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
DOV made a funny.
I better get this on the super 8 so I can watch it with my grandkiddies.
Official prediction: The Angels will win the AL west this season.
by RexTookMyStash on Jul 29, 2011 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions
My only regret is that I have but one rec to give.
Official prediction: The Angels will win the AL west this season.
by RexTookMyStash on Jul 29, 2011 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll say it: Professional athletes get paid way too much for what they do.
I put my life on the line every day when I go to work for a fraction of what they make. But on the other hand, I don’t hold their salaries against them – more power to them. The players are entitled to every penny they can suck out of the owners. The owners are entitled to raise prices to the fans’ maximum tolerable level.
But, it seems more than fair for the owners to keep their finances in perspective. They shouldn’t squeeze their mimimum-wage workers, who support the organization in hundreds of necessary ways, just to literally throw money down a “Wells.”
A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.
lots of people can do you job.
not many people can hit a major league curveball (including brandon woods).
Pay them.
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
by clover_black on Jul 29, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
*your
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
by clover_black on Jul 29, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
*Wood
Ahhh... Yes... Finally back home in SoCal!!!
by stuck in Romania on Jul 29, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
that always gets me.
i usually forget about things i don’t give a shit about.
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
by clover_black on Jul 29, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
nice
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some douche named DFA from AN
by 2pintsofbooze on Jul 29, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
i lied.
i sponsored him on BBref.
WHY DID YOU DO THIS TO ME BRANDON WOOD.
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
by clover_black on Jul 29, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
denial
we’ve all been there at some point. its alright dude, you’re with friends now. [hug]
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some douche named DFA from AN
by 2pintsofbooze on Jul 29, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Nobody in the organization is paid well
at any level other than on the field. They make money by cutting costs everywhere else
RIP Nick Adenhart
It's simple - supply and demand
Right now, there is a surplus supply of workers willing to replace unhappy stadium workers, just like there are too many college graduates that can take my job any day and get paid less.
Sorry, stadium workers. You lose this time.
o_O
come on Arte
Break that union
i bet there is tons of people from Newport that would love to work there
shuttle them from Fashion Island to the Stadium
DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I take it you don't have the DOV Secret Decoder Ring
You need to drink more ovaltine
-Quad Fin Rider
I'll admit it, i'm a lazy, over-paid, card carrying union member here.
And while I don’t know everything regarding the SEIU’s negotiations with Arte & Co., I will say this. Every time you hear somebody bitch about unions, they’re non-union. All those jobs that do not provide health-care or retirement bennies (for the most part), non-union. And FYI for those of you not involved in trade or construction, it’s harder to make good money, because so many shops, are now non-union, thanks to the union busting of the 70’s and 80’s. So, just as i’m sure there are just as many non-union lazy asses out there as union ones, I get sick and tired of the portrayal of all of us being the same. From my time working as a state employee BTW, the waste and corruption takes place at the higher levels of management, not amongst cops, nurses, teachers and custodians, or us electricians. End rant; Go Halos!
YOU DON'T KNOW THE POWER OF THE DARKSIDE.....
by halofolife on Jul 29, 2011 3:47 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
hear hear!
And I’m a lowly contractor, non-unionized in the tech industry. Boy do I wish I could get some real benefits, ugh.
Jeff Mathis career: WAR = -2.3, oWAR = -1.5, dWAR = -0.8 , Jeff Mathis's bank account: $2,492,000.
Free Agency: 2013.
I'm with you heart and soul.
And I’m a non-unionized, investor-class bobo with a decent nest-egg and sweet benefits.
But I’m also the son of a family of two generations of union workers: an electrical engineer, a warehouse foreman and grocer, and two teachers — my family worked hard, were smart and honest, earned modest wages, and were decent people — quite unlike the strawmen some of the folks are putting up in this thread.
by Turks Teeth on Jul 29, 2011 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wrong on Construction Jobs
Constructioin wages have been lowered due to Illegals being hired! The same Illegals that SEIU Supports and both political parties are courting.
When I'm not at the stadium, I'd rather be watching my Halos back in Costa Rica!
by Dono Romantico on Jul 30, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
You're right Dono.
The hiring of illegal aliens has hurt the industry tremendously. My cousin is also an electrician with the IBEW, and although he and I do not work residential, the majority of contractors that do hire illegals. Food for thought, if you’re getting home repairs and it’s a really cheap job, you may (probably) have hired illegal aliens. BTW, i’m not a SEIU member, and of all the AFL-CIO teamster unions, they’re generally considered the weakest. But the massive hiring of undocumented workers has been done purposely, as a form of union busting.
YOU DON'T KNOW THE POWER OF THE DARKSIDE.....
everyone here at HH should go work at the stadium that would be fun haha
Don’t know, don’t care. People that criticize can kiss my ass. I don’t give a shit
-Kobe Bryant
You want to make history you have to do historic things- Kobe Bryant
only if i got full benefits and $15 an hour
I take it you don't have the DOV Secret Decoder Ring
You need to drink more ovaltine
-Quad Fin Rider
Nah
$6 and a cup of beer and that’s it
Swung on and missed, he struck him out! ~ Terry Smith
Angels' 2011 W-L record with the alternate red jersey: 14-8 (Home: 6-5 | Road: 7-4 || Day: 6-3 | Night: 7-6)
How big is this cup you speak of?
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by Commander_Nate on Jul 29, 2011 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
They used to let organizations work on concessions to raise money for charity.
But that is probably just too good to be true. Don’t want to be taking profits out of the concessions stands, or putting people out of work or anything.
Mike Scioscia has zero credibility to get mad at anyone, or anything. He is the reason Jeff Mathis plays baseball.
F^&* it. Let's play ball.
Kitties going down today.
o_O
Ok.. from a former member of SEIU..
I was a member of the same local as the stadium workers when I worked at Disneyland. The union was pretty much useless. I paid them the equivalent of one hour a week (before taxes) for their “wonderful” union services. Yet when I needed those services after being harassed after turning in a co-worker for leaving $50,000 on a counter overnight, I got NO HELP from my union at all!!! I was stressed out and harassed at any of my locations where I could work, and the harassment got so bad that I ended up in the hospital.
I have friends that work at the stadium(yes, we hang out other than at the stadium), and I have asked them if it would be a problem if I crossed the picket line to work at the stadium if they went on strike. And not one of them has a problem with me doing so—they know how much I love the team, but also know that I am unemployed and would do almost ANYTHING to work at the stadium, even as a temporary thing..
by pattimelt on Jul 29, 2011 4:29 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Yep, that is the primary complaint of union members-
They will get zero help when it is union vs. union. They just stay out of it if at all possible and when they do side it is generally on the side of the guy with the most seniority. Unions are not there to protect members from each other, they are there to manage labor relations with the management.
by Balls and Strikes on Jul 29, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
they haven't hired yet..
due to the possibility of the strike.. so I’m still waiting. and waiting.. and waiting..
All I'm gonna point out is...
The cost of living is much higher in the Bay Area than in Orange County. So, comparing wages between the two areas would be like comparing California housing prices to Oklahoma. I’ve worked for a couple statewide companies and the wages we could hire people for in Southern California wouldn’t even get consideration in NorCal.
I should win a prize for not throwing my hat into this potential melee.
Official prediction: The Angels will win the AL west this season.
Angels should of never got rid of Garry Matthews and Scott Kazmir
They would of made good beer bitches and ushers, expensive but atleast get paid for doing something.
by AngelsForever!!!! on Jul 29, 2011 8:02 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Hey did you know that we lost today
…sad day
Don't Blame ME! Tony Reagins Did it!
by IWishWeStillHadTimSalmon on Jul 30, 2011 1:08 AM PDT reply actions
Hahahaha!
It is the individual workers choice to work for a union. It is Arte Moreno’s right to pay what he believe’s is an appropriate wage for work being done. The economy is in the dumps. Good Luck striking (sarcasm).
When I'm not at the stadium, I'd rather be watching my Halos back in Costa Rica!
by Dono Romantico on Jul 30, 2011 12:28 PM PDT reply actions
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