Jered Weaver Tossed After Carlos Guillen Struts
by Rev Halofan on Jul 31, 2011 12:44 PM PDT
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Final Score in Auburn Hills: Tigers Smoke, Angels Fire.
Pitcher Jered Weaver lit a fire under his lethargic teammates with a display of emotion at being shown up by has-been Carlos Guillen riding a lucky jetstream of a flyball. The irony is that Guillen could have displayed an iota of class and dropped his head and just scored what would prove to be the game-winner. But instead, it being his 2nd HR of the season as he battles back from having to look at himself in the mirror each morning, Carlos Guillen held on to his lemon-scented bat and eyeballed Weaver in a one-upsmanship machismo call-out (Unlike Weaver, Carlos Guillen is a sociopathic DUI contortionist, and his bloated frame makes everyone realize he is a staggering puffy boozing headcase with nothing to live for).
Link to 2002 Carlos Guillen DUI story for those Detroit fans that have only followed baseball since their team got trendy in 2006 with Kenny Pinetar Rogers.
Well after being mocked by the scum of the earth, the unredeemable alky gutterswine that is Carlos (hic) Guillen, Jered threw high above the helmet of the next batter and was tossed from the game, raging against the dying of the light all the way to the showers.
Tempers flared because Venezuelan socialist Magglio Ordonez had decided to admire an earlier HR, hoping that the pellet shrinking into the distance will recur in the prostate of his beloved Hugo Chavez, dying in a Cuban cancer ward despite the millions Ordonez has showered on his regime.
Justin Verlander was cruising to a no-hitter with the Angels politely accommodating him. With Weaver's awakening the belly of the beast, Erick Aybar started a mini-rally with a bunt single ruled an error. He then scored from 3B on a fielder's choice when he evaded a tag near home plate by a shaken not stirred Verlander. Maicer Izturis then got a base hit that the official Comerika scorekeeper just couldn't tuck into her teabag, making it a 3-2 game. While Guillen's HR was the difference, his showboating strut cost his teammate a piece of history and that will surely destroy the morale and chemistry in Jim Leyland's clubhouse.
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Who does Carlos Guillen think he is?
Jose Guillen?
by Halowitz on Jul 31, 2011 12:46 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Aybar = POTG
Someone in this lineup finally showed some balls.
Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.
by Commander_Nate on Jul 31, 2011 12:47 PM PDT reply actions 4 recs
Totally
POTG: Rev’s dog
"Every time I think I’m out, they pull me back in" -George Costanza
by Howie's Batting Title on Jul 31, 2011 12:49 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Aybar is the one that got robbed of that bunt hit single
we are the ones that should be pissed that it was ruled an error.
o_O
A good throw gets him
I like the idea by Aybar, but Verlander cost himself that no-no by not being able to make a decent throw to first.
Yeah Aybar was awesome
he pissed off Detroit fans immensely
Just another Halo loss due to lack of run support
some props go to Verlander.
When I'm not at the stadium, I'd rather be watching my Halos back in Costa Rica!
by Dono Romantico on Jul 31, 2011 12:47 PM PDT reply actions
I'm sorry, but I'll take that one! Especially
considering we could have been no hit… That was a fun loss!
"Every time I think I’m out, they pull me back in" -George Costanza
by Howie's Batting Title on Jul 31, 2011 12:47 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
no such thing
When I'm not at the stadium, I'd rather be watching my Halos back in Costa Rica!
by Dono Romantico on Jul 31, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t say fun, but it was better than it could have been.
by jessthelion on Jul 31, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
+1
I still feel like a winner deep down inside
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Jul 31, 2011 12:50 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
You are a winner and don’t let anyone tell you youre not.
by Christoffer James V Ferreira on Jul 31, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
In a strange way
I think the game was a morale boost for the Angels clubhouse
by Jason Andrew Martin on Jul 31, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
No, he's related to AJ Pierzynski
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Jul 31, 2011 1:27 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 4 recs
Weaver was PANTHER
While I didn’t agree with Weaver starting it … Cabrera and hemmoroid-boy Guillen took it over the top in being mega-douche unprofessional.
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Jul 31, 2011 12:49 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 2 recs
Victor commented on the umps cautioning the benches
AFTER the second incident but before the next pitch had been thrown.
THIS… IS… ANAHEIM!!
This I thought was strange
Right after Guillen’s made contact on that hit. The umpire was coming around Mathis heading towards Weaver, giving him some verbal guff before anything happened.
Weaver was asking the ump why Guillen wasn't being thrown out or reprimanded for that homerun celebration/outburst
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Jul 31, 2011 1:26 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
True? Or guess?
The ump was out real fast. I’m guessing that it was because of the previous at bats.
When was the warning given? Earlier in the game, or after Guillen’s hit?
after Guillen
"Keep pushing for us." Ervin Santana after NO-HITTER (July 27, 2011)
by thebigtizzle on Jul 31, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
So after the hit
The umpire decides that the heat is on, and he will start to throw out warnings knowing he’ll have a chance to toss an Angel or two?
But in the umpires defense. They do give warnings before game after what happened the previous day(s).
Still, how convenient for the tabbies in today’s game.
What i don’t understand is how the ump can toss weaver without even hitting the batter. He must understand that’s it’s competitive and things can get heated but you can’t put out a fire if it wasn’t started.
by Christoffer James V Ferreira on Jul 31, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Gave the verbal warning(I didn't see any pointing at the benches)
After doing that, anybody doing anything he deems retaliation gets tossed with the manager.
Seriously?
He warned both benches after Weaver yelled at Guillen, then Weaver, who clearly had plenty of control threw the next pitch over the guy’s head. Weaver deserved to get tossed, and he wanted it. They showed him before the pitch and I think he nodded at the Angels dugout. I immediately thought, “Uh-oh, he’s about to get himself ejected.”
I just hope there’s no suspension.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
I saw that
But there wasn’t any physical contact, no fifts thrown or anything.
I’m not very familiar with american baseball so I compare to my own league and the ball in EU, which often ends up like a wrestling match.
by Christoffer James V Ferreira on Jul 31, 2011 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Weave was off tye mound near home. Just a guess
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Jul 31, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I excused ordonez as he thought the ball might be foul
Cabrera yelled at weaver after his popout the next at bat after magglio’s HR …
his next at-bat – cabrera check swinged and appealed to first (assuming weave and mathis would do it) … then when he ended up striking out in that at bat, he yelled something at mathis. Look at it again
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Jul 31, 2011 1:00 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
And maggs came around in the 6th and came around the mound
Now that Lackey has turned to the enemy lets kick his ass
by Angelsrthebest101 on Jul 31, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
but i think that ended it (so did jose mota)
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Jul 31, 2011 1:29 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Hey Rev
Now we have a reason to hate Detroit!
Jeff Mathis career: WAR = -2.3, oWAR = -1.5, dWAR = -0.8 , Jeff Mathis's bank account: $2,492,000.
Free Agency: 2013.
What about
Kid rock ?
I take it you don't have the DOV Secret Decoder Ring
You need to drink more ovaltine
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by DAD OF VLAD on Jul 31, 2011 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Still furious
"Its like when i’m right…i’m right… and when i’m wrong…i could have been right..so i’m still right cause i could have been wrong"-Chevy Clarke's Twitter
Despite our loss
it nice too see someone got some bawls and not accept when being provoked and for aybar use his IQ right by playing their low-level game. He’s cool.
Another plus was to see the HK being used as a PH for Premmie, and not the other way around.
by Christoffer James V Ferreira on Jul 31, 2011 12:52 PM PDT reply actions
I hate Lindsey Soto
"Every time I think I’m out, they pull me back in" -George Costanza
by Howie's Batting Title on Jul 31, 2011 12:52 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Beauty was seeing that there are always "other" ways to get back at a team even after the benches have been warned...
Tyler Chatwood and Trevor Bell say, "Kaz who?"
...and my final thought on this for the day...
Must sign WTY to extension…that fire we saw today was was worth every last penny!
Tyler Chatwood and Trevor Bell say, "Kaz who?"
Well cant win them all. Even crappy teams have to win a game or two.
I wish we played in the Central. I would love beating up on those AAA teams
Be a Angel Fan till I die... The only good team to come out of Texas is my Dallas Cowboys Baby
We would run away with the central
the AL West actually has two really good teams…if it wasn’t for all the games within the division I wouldn’t be surprised if none of the teams topped .500
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I don't think Weaver is a saint here
Seems like he got something unusually large lodged in his ass when Ordonez showed him up. A childish play by Ordonez, but it didn’t do anything in itself to affect the outcome of the game. Weaver could have just shrugged it off, and realized that his team needed him on the mound more than they needed him to be a martyr. Losing your ace really hurts your chance to win.
by Suboptimal on Jul 31, 2011 12:56 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
But him getting tossed is what fired up this team. They were pretty dead.
Lets face it, if he wanted to hit him he would have
Be a Angel Fan till I die... The only good team to come out of Texas is my Dallas Cowboys Baby
Thought I was the only one who felt this way.
Revenge by bunting is fine with me, but throwing at a guy, especially up high near the head is wrong
He should have hit him.
1. Love the fire from Weave
2. Love the bunt attempt to kill the no-no
3. Love Aybar punking them on the basepaths
4. Love the hit by Izzy and running by P-Bo.
5. Love the pinch-hit call hor HK.
Generally, the pitcher should be smarter, yes, but in THIS situation these guys aren’t sticking up for him. He’s on the mound taking shots. It’s the bottom 7, what chance these guys are gonna fight back? You get to express your rage and maybe you’ll fire these fools up. Everyone on earth deserved to know how pissed the pitcher was, this has been long coming. Wish we woulda pulled it off…wish he would have hit him.
"Keep pushing for us." Ervin Santana after NO-HITTER (July 27, 2011)
by thebigtizzle on Jul 31, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions 16 recs
best bigtizzle post ever
Jim Bowden on Tony Reagins.
Style: Authoritative, brilliant baseball mind who works well in the trifecta with owner Arte Moreno and manager Mike Scioscia. Builds teams on pitching and defense up the middle. Active at trade deadlines, will trade prospects and has the resources to acquire All-Stars
pile on the rec wagon
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Jul 31, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Other than your "should have hit him" comment, right on!
A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.
Yeah, you're right.
That line should read: “…wish he would have hit him square on the ass.”
Mike Scioscia has zero credibility to get mad at anyone, or anything. He is the reason Jeff Mathis plays baseball.
I think you are missing the point...
Ordonez fired Weaver up…he was absolute nails after that…
It was Guillen’s absolute uncalled for move that was worth exactly what happened after that!
Tyler Chatwood and Trevor Bell say, "Kaz who?"
Weaver was done - pitch-count wise and ...
you must have missed the douche-ocity of the Guillen celebration, stare, sideways jog toward first, hand in the air, bat flip, head-turning after his home run.
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Jul 31, 2011 1:07 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I think Weaver was probably over Ordonez, but Guillen raised the bar of douchiness with his antics.
I just wish Weav would have thrown lower on Avila. That high can be dangerous.
Disagree
There is only so much a guy can take, and being heavily provoked + the frustration of the lacking offense, builds up alot of anger. Anger which could have been going on in the clubhouse behind closed doors. So getting that out and showing you arn’t accepting people to step on your toes, says alot. I think Jared acted correctly.
by Christoffer James V Ferreira on Jul 31, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Totally agree with you re: frustration of lacking offense
I don’t get why our #1 batting avg gets the day off on this one?? Mathis sucks. I was so hoping to hear news of his trade today.
our lineup really is a mess. i don’t think soshs has ever look at the players stats and throughout the season.
by Christoffer James V Ferreira on Jul 31, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
dude it's not like he's the cleanup hitter
just let him eat his lasagna in peace……
Jim Bowden on Tony Reagins.
Style: Authoritative, brilliant baseball mind who works well in the trifecta with owner Arte Moreno and manager Mike Scioscia. Builds teams on pitching and defense up the middle. Active at trade deadlines, will trade prospects and has the resources to acquire All-Stars
This team needs heart and fire, not more finesse
When Drysdale and Gibson played, showmanship from the opposing team was done with material risk. You did not cross them unless you wanted a 95 mph fastball in the ear-hole. Because these were the unwritten rules, there were no fights and the umps did not need to issue warnings. The players policed themselves because retribution was real….and painful.
Are you referring to the Guillen incident?
Weaver was at 110 pitches or so anyway, so he was only going to last one more batter. I agree that Weaver isn’t a saint, although I like that he called out Guillen; the earlier stuff might have been over the top. Still, other than aiming at Avila’s head instead of his body, I have no problem with what he did.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
He'd already thrown 100 plus pitches. His outing was winding down at that moment anyway.
That was definitely a part of it. If it’d only been the 5th inning or less it wouldn’t have happened.
But the biggest reason by FAR was Guillen, who acted like a damn child out there. Unbelievable. The guy is horrible at this point, and he goes out there, does a rare good thing, and proceeds to ruin it by acting like a rookie.
The Angels announcers on TV both said their respect for Guillen dropped significantly after his childhood antics.
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I belong in the majors, but I'm not. I'm Hank Conger.
Hands down craziest non-playoff baseball game
I have ever seen. I was ready to go. Even though we lost, I feel like the angels showed balls, there was so much tension..
Fuck the tigers
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by Tapatio Man on Jul 31, 2011 12:57 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 2 recs
I never thougt Detroit would be on my shit list after today's game.
Alas, here we find ourselves.
New rivalry alert!!
Official prediction: The Angels will win the AL west this season.
by RexTookMyStash on Jul 31, 2011 12:57 PM PDT reply actions
Well Detroit
I hope to see you in the playoffs when we kick your ass with a CGSO by Weaver.
Baseball is a funny game...
I'll take a 6-4 road trip any day.
We’re still two out of first, which is great considering some people are still writing off the season after each loss.
Official prediction: The Angels will win the AL west this season.
by RexTookMyStash on Jul 31, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Scioscia post-game
“Gotta tip your cap and turn the page”
by Halowitz on Jul 31, 2011 1:03 PM PDT reply actions 5 recs
Haha! He couldn't form a coherent sentence!
"Every time I think I’m out, they pull me back in" -George Costanza
by Howie's Batting Title on Jul 31, 2011 1:05 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I think Sosh showed class in not saying anything
He just let what happened happen. Clearly he wasn’t upset at Weaver you could see that when it happened. He also did say that “guys were admiring their hits”.
This team looks really good right now (7/9/11)
Not giving up yet... but man this season stinks right now (6/9/11)
The point is that Soth never says anything
It’s same canned quotes over and over again.
by mustard_man on Jul 31, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
He's worst than Gubi!!
"Every time I think I’m out, they pull me back in" -George Costanza
by Howie's Batting Title on Jul 31, 2011 4:04 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Drives me nuts
EVERY game,no matter what! Leyland said a hell of alot more than him! So who do they keep showing afterwards? Not us!
Soth is a believer in the Crash Davis school of interviewing.
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
by red floyd on Jul 31, 2011 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
They got shit for shit
Sux only traded some future Rule 5 candidates for the poster boy of Kaiser Permanente
All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine.
by Quad Fin Rider on Jul 31, 2011 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Trayvon Robinson of the Dodgers, who the Mariners got, is a decent prospect though
Red Sox didn’t end up giving up much
Finally, an Aybar bunt I can be proud of
Well, come see a fat old man some time!
by Moondoggy on Jul 31, 2011 1:06 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Verlander is a tough game to win anyway but it was good to see the boys battle back in the 8th.
I wish we would have managed the 9th differently.
the (The) irony is that Guillen could have had (“could have had displayed?”) displayed an iota of class and dropped his head an (and) scored what would prove to be the game-winner.
Justin Verlander was cruising o (to) a no-hitter with …
He then scored form 3B on a fielder’s choice when he evaded a tag near home plate form (from) a shaken not stirred Verlander.
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Jul 31, 2011 1:22 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
No complaints here
Looks like the norm, and is understandable. Not a big deal when Rev is getting it quickly so the posters can start discussing today’s game.
Come around more often, and it won’t bother you so much. There are worse posts, and even blogs, around.
I try not to give advise
I’m bad at explaining things sometimes, so I try not to at all.
When in Rome comes to mind here, and also choose your battles wisely. But a good one would be, at least for today, try not to take a bone out of a growling dogs mouth. Even if you still happen to be attached to it.
Today is not a good day to nit pick.
Rev gets those blogposts up nice & quick-like...
…so there are bound to be a few typos here and there from time to time. No big deal, imo. Those can get corrected later. I like being able to read an entertaining game summary so soon after the game is over so keep up the great work! :)
dipshit is a clippers fan
would not know how to post without bitching, have forgiveness on his ignorant Schmidt ass.
man fuck the Tigers
bunch of douches and the writers at bless you boys (such a stupid blog name) are a freaking joke
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Say what you will about Benedict Horseface, he was our Designated Asshole.
I missed the game, being stuck in a 3 hour traffic jam at the state line (don’t ask — wasn’t the normal Sunday going-home traffic), but I’m glad to hear that SOMEBODY finally stood up and said Enough!!
The line must be drawn here! This far, and no further!!!
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
by red floyd on Jul 31, 2011 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Weaver needs to turn off his emotion chip at times.
Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.
by Commander_Nate on Jul 31, 2011 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Most importantly...
…let’s do something with Trout as soon as they get home. Either play him or send him back to the minors. I miss the anticipation of watching him play, but let’s not pull a Brandon Wood on our future star!
Tyler Chatwood and Trevor Bell say, "Kaz who?"
by K3YEROUT on Jul 31, 2011 1:27 PM PDT reply actions 4 recs
Well, at least the Rangers lost.
Of course, they still had a better day than us. They got Mike Adams, we got nada.
I've got nothing.
We have Rodney! Derrr!
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Jul 31, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
MLB is talking that their is a suspension on Weaver which is bull.
He never hit anyone and got heated at the very least he could be fined but making him miss a start common.
Now that Lackey has turned to the enemy lets kick his ass
by Angelsrthebest101 on Jul 31, 2011 1:32 PM PDT reply actions
I feared Weaver would miss a start
My guess is that Trout goes down and the Angels bring up Trevor Bell.
Too bad MLB didn't suspend Beckett after he threw at Abreu.
After Abreu had stepped out of the box and called time. Way to tow the line MLB.
YOU DON'T KNOW THE POWER OF THE DARKSIDE.....
But he's a Sux! It was clearly all Abreu's fault!!!
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
If he ahd aimed at his head
he would have hit Avila’s head.
He aimed over his head. His aim is true.
by Rev Halofan on Jul 31, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Just like his aim on the previous pitch, amirite?
by rcpratt on Jul 31, 2011 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
what thell are you here for
you should go and troll at one of the other 40,000 blogs you signed up for. Your team won the game, now go away.
If you're going to troll you can least refrain from 7th grade chat speak.
You owe the dying rust bucket of a city that is Detroit at least that amirite?
Official prediction: The Angels will win the AL west this season.
by RexTookMyStash on Jul 31, 2011 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Kwame in 2012!
Official prediction: The Angels will win the AL west this season.
by RexTookMyStash on Jul 31, 2011 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Is it on tonight?
Official prediction: The Angels will win the AL west this season.
by RexTookMyStash on Jul 31, 2011 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
When I look at the Vid that is what I see
He was making a statement to get tossed from the game. Not put a runner on base.
Completely agree
Weaver deserves a suspension. If he’d plunked him in the ass or thrown a ball behind him, it would have accomplished the same thing without putting someone’s health in serious jeopardy. Remember everyone clamoring for Beckett to get suspended when he threw at (but missed) Abreu’s head a couple years ago? And Beckett got a suspension.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Weave would have gotten the suspention for throwing at the batter, no matter where the pitch was located.
That’s an automatic suspension after the umpire gives the warnings to both benches.
But weaver throwing above/over Avila’s head, instead of plunking him in the side/buttocks, prevents a base runner for the next pitcher, and give us a better chance to stay close in the game.
Tell me Jered can’t hit anything he wants to. If there was an apple on top of Avila’s I don’t think Weaver could have touched it. That’s how high the pitch was. Weaver didn’t want to harm the team, or Avila. He wanted all of Guillen.
Then he should've thrown behind Avila, if he wanted to prevent a baserunner.
Throwing anywhere near anyone’s head, regardless of how good the pitcher is, shouldn’t happen. Shit happens, people mess up, gambling with a 90+ mph baseball to the head is unacceptable.
I disagree
I would have to watch a replay again, but that pitch was close enough to Avila’s head that it was in dangerous territory. It’s unacceptable, as far as I’m concerned. I’m with Kingfish. If you want to avoid a baserunner (which is the right decision, in my opinion), you throw behind his back. Don’t go anywhere near the head.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Offspeed, too
Just bend one into a guy’s ribs or at his ankles. Gets the point across with minimal risk of harm.
And I don't mean to say that I think Weaver was trying to hit him in the head
I think he meant to miss. But it was way too close to mess around with.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Nothing sends a message like a little chin music
The idea is to mess around with the hitter’s head, not actually hit it.
Its ironic that Weaver and Avila were each other's battery mate at the all star game several weeks ago,
then Weaver throws at him. Fuck Guillen, that’s all I gotta say
There are no friends
in the ASG
Swung on and missed, he struck him out! ~ Terry Smith
Angels' 2011 W-L record with the alternate red jersey: 14-9 (Home: 6-5 | Road: 7-5 || Day: 6-3 | Night: 7-7)
yeah I know, but for sure Avila is not going to forget that though is what I'm saying, eh oh well
If the Angels and Tigers meet, that is going to be one hot series!
by AngelsHIMYMfan on Jul 31, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Looks like I picked a hell of a day to sleep in
Weaver looked like his only “flaw” was exposed. Seems like payback for what happened in the previous duel (i.e. Verlander getting tossed back in Anaheim).
Split series and a day off, then onwards to the Twins and Mariners. Should be able to gain some ground on Texass
Swung on and missed, he struck him out! ~ Terry Smith
Angels' 2011 W-L record with the alternate red jersey: 14-9 (Home: 6-5 | Road: 7-5 || Day: 6-3 | Night: 7-7)
Angels.....
Reagins also: Trout will be on active roster for Tues game. But there will be “discussions” on whether its time for him to go back to minors
http://twitter.com/billplunkettocr/status/97767891381923840
If he isn’t going to be playing everyday(or at least close to it), send him down.
Looks like Trout has been subjected to the Brandon Wood treatment
We gotta save him!
Swung on and missed, he struck him out! ~ Terry Smith
Angels' 2011 W-L record with the alternate red jersey: 14-9 (Home: 6-5 | Road: 7-5 || Day: 6-3 | Night: 7-7)
Ah I see TR has reappeared after all that stressful trade talk
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What do you mean after?
http://twitter.com/delninja/status/97767891381923840
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I will look back at this day as the day I knew Jered Weaver
will NOT be signed to an extension. Jered Weaver is the #1 reason why this team still has a chance at making the postseason. W/o him they’d be NOTHING this year. He rightfully gets angry at not one but TWO Tigers standing an admiring their homeruns. Watching the post-game interviews Jose Mota at least stated there is no place in baseball for what the Tigers did.
What does the Soth do though???? Just looks all sad and dejected. Says he doesn’t really want to comment on some of the incidents, and just said that obviously Jered got upset at them admiring their homeruns. Well Soth as the fucking leader of this team, how do YOU feel. Grow a pair and taking a fucking stand. We don’t need you to be over the top like Ozzie Guillen but Jered Weaver is YOUR player so takis HIS fucking side instead of playing the role of the eternal pacifist. I’m so sick and tired of his BS. You continually play players way past their primes or ones that never were good in the first place. You insist on using your pitchers in roles instead of letting the actual game situation dictate who should be in there.
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by MH252525 on Jul 31, 2011 1:42 PM PDT reply actions 4 recs
If Erstad was the manager
He wouldve backed up Weave
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by mathisrocks5 on Jul 31, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Shock and surprise, MH252525 has a go at Soth
I don’t want any team I support to have a manager like that prize cunt Ozzie Guillen.
We need an ‘ignore’ button.
mumble mumble Mathis mumble mumble Hatcher mumble
agree
This team looks really good right now (7/9/11)
Not giving up yet... but man this season stinks right now (6/9/11)
There's a happy medium from the extreme of Ozzie to the "canned professionalism" of Soth
Jim Leland is an example.
Plus how do we know what Soth says to Weaver in the clubhouse?
Because he doesn’t say it to the media makes Weaver want to sign elsewhere?
if anything
I would argue that Soth should publically take Weaver’s side regardless of how stupid it is because he is HIS player, and if he disagrees with it then tell him in private. You are saying that’s he’s doing the exact opposite, not supporting him in public, but telling him he agreed with him in private? I don’t see that at all IMO, could be wrong, but I just dont see it.
Jim Bowden on Tony Reagins.
Style: Authoritative, brilliant baseball mind who works well in the trifecta with owner Arte Moreno and manager Mike Scioscia. Builds teams on pitching and defense up the middle. Active at trade deadlines, will trade prospects and has the resources to acquire All-Stars
I really am interested in hearing your argument for why
you think Weaver wants to resign with us more after today than before. Is it because the players like Aybar showed they have his back? If I was Jered, I know huge leap here, but I wouldn’t feel particularly supported by Soth. Is that what you took away from his actions on the field, or his interview. I’m being serious here.
Jim Bowden on Tony Reagins.
Style: Authoritative, brilliant baseball mind who works well in the trifecta with owner Arte Moreno and manager Mike Scioscia. Builds teams on pitching and defense up the middle. Active at trade deadlines, will trade prospects and has the resources to acquire All-Stars
do they not teach reading skills in England
I said we DON’T need him to be like Ozzie Guillen. Mustard man can read though so it’s all good. Exactly like he said we don’t need Soth to be as opinionated and over the top as Ozzie, but I guarantee you he would have had words for the Tigers instead of just bending over backwards and basically apologizing to them for Weaver.
As for the postgame interview, I couldn’t tell whose side Soth was on. To me it sounded like he was disappointed in Weaver for letting his emotions get the best of him.
Jim Bowden on Tony Reagins.
Style: Authoritative, brilliant baseball mind who works well in the trifecta with owner Arte Moreno and manager Mike Scioscia. Builds teams on pitching and defense up the middle. Active at trade deadlines, will trade prospects and has the resources to acquire All-Stars
Where exactly did Soth give his best?
Did he even come on the field when Weaver and he got ejected???? He certainly didn’t give his best in the locker room in the interview….
Jim Bowden on Tony Reagins.
Style: Authoritative, brilliant baseball mind who works well in the trifecta with owner Arte Moreno and manager Mike Scioscia. Builds teams on pitching and defense up the middle. Active at trade deadlines, will trade prospects and has the resources to acquire All-Stars
so he's bad at his job but
it’s ok because his job is not important???? College of the Desert Management class logic huh?
Jim Bowden on Tony Reagins.
Style: Authoritative, brilliant baseball mind who works well in the trifecta with owner Arte Moreno and manager Mike Scioscia. Builds teams on pitching and defense up the middle. Active at trade deadlines, will trade prospects and has the resources to acquire All-Stars
Scioscia is the one who decides to continually trot out
the same lackluster lineup (namely Mathis, continually batting Torii 2nd despite his hovering at .230, continually batting VW cleanup despite his sub .700 OPS, continually batting Abreu third despite his struggles throughout the month of July, continually keeping our only power threat 7th or 8th, our best hitter 6th, and having a leadoff hitter with either a .320-ish OBP or Izturis and sitting the #1 prospect in baseball on the bench for 6 out of 7 games).
So I’d say he is pretty damn important and is NOT giving his best to help the team. In the dugout or in interviews.
"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen
by IE Angel on Jul 31, 2011 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
There was no time to go on the field
especially when your busy getting tossed as well on a no argument issue.
The ump gave his warnings to both benches. If he tosses the pitcher, the manager is automatic. What is there to argue about?
You really care what Scioscia said to the media?
Why? What in the world does it matter? So he made some pointless remarks about getting emotional and managed to avoid a suspension and/or a fine. What matters is what he said to Weaver and the team in the locker room, and none of us know that.
I’d love it if Scioscia were a bit more publicly interesting. But in the end, what I want is a guy who knows how to get the most out of his players. I want a guy who can manage the locker room. I want a guy who makes good decisions. Giving good quotes to the media is about number 7,531 on my list of things I want in a manager. It just doesn’t matter.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
by Gorbachav5 on Jul 31, 2011 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
I was with you until "I want a guy who makes good decisions."
How do you explain Mathis?
A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.
It's one decision
And it’s his “pet” thing – the defensive catcher. It’s definitely a mark on his record, but all the good he does and has done outweigh that.
He’s not perfect. But he’s good.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
by Gorbachav5 on Jul 31, 2011 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
But in the end, what I want is a guy who knows how to get the most out of his players. I want a guy who can manage the locker room. I want a guy who makes good decisions.
So who would you rather see manage the Angels?
I think Scioscia does a great job
He’s not perfect, and Mathis is a large blind spot, but he’s been fantastic in his years with the team, and his record bears that out.
I can’t think of anyone off the top of my head who I’d rather have manage the team. Maybe Francona?
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Joe Maddon.
Pollyanna is dead. But don't get mad at me, I didn't kill her. Tony Reagins did.
by snowhor on Jul 31, 2011 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'd add Bud Black to the list, too.
Pollyanna is dead. But don't get mad at me, I didn't kill her. Tony Reagins did.
Eh...I think Black is fine, but might be a bit over-rated
Granted, he hasn’t had a ton to work with, but his track record at San Diego isn’t great. I would take Scioscia over Black.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
LOL.
Oh, you guys mean “Change”.
Maddon, Black, Roeneke, Panetta…
I’m in.
"Keep pushing for us." Ervin Santana after NO-HITTER (July 27, 2011)
by thebigtizzle on Aug 1, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Actions speak louder than words
Words Expressed After the Facts are pointless and meaningless. Anyone can say sorry after they fucked up but that doesnt make it any better.
conger > mathis
Scioscia has never given anything to the media
He’s not going to fuel the flames and make a big deal about anything. Never has. Never will.
He shared his real feelings in the locker room. We’ll never know what he said, but my guess is, he told Weaver “Good job”.
Weaver, in my opinion deserves better
he will want to go where they can back him up. Especially in the RUNS department
conger > mathis
Weaver almost always pitches against the opposing team's ace.
Could that have something to do with his low run support? Would that be different for him with another team?
lol at eyespy
And an interesting idea, President Banana, that I hadn’t considered. You’re such a smart president.
White castle?
"Keep pushing for us." Ervin Santana after NO-HITTER (July 27, 2011)
by thebigtizzle on Jul 31, 2011 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Screw everyone who objects to Aybar's bunt
that’s all I wanna say.
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Jul 31, 2011 1:49 PM PDT reply actions
yea the Angels had the tying run on base in the 8th and the 9th
trying to win the game triumphs unspoken rules on no hitters.
Jim Bowden on Tony Reagins.
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by MH252525 on Jul 31, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
in scoring position even
Jim Bowden on Tony Reagins.
Style: Authoritative, brilliant baseball mind who works well in the trifecta with owner Arte Moreno and manager Mike Scioscia. Builds teams on pitching and defense up the middle. Active at trade deadlines, will trade prospects and has the resources to acquire All-Stars
Look at the defense
They were playing in. They expected/were prepared for the bunt too. Verlander must have been jittery from seeing Weave’s emotion based on the throw he made :)
I listened to the homer broadcasters from Detroit spout off
about Aybar’s bunt, they actually used “bush league”, “unwritten rule” and more horseshit about breaking up a no-hitter. All these whiners are thinking about is a no-hitter, not the fact the Angels where trying to win the game. They kept harping on how “knowledgable” Tiger fans are, and how they rightfully booed Aybar when he came up in the 9th. So here is my F-bomb for July… Fuck you Dan Dickerson and whoever the has-been former MLB catcher who never says his name is… we’ll see you in the play-offs
Knoop - Fregosi - Mincher...4-6-3 double play!
by MiHaloFan on Jul 31, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
I have no problem with him bunting after what transpired.
It was an easy play that Verlander should have made.
Eh
Somebody on bless you boys said they “couldn’t see our side” which I don’t get. I think what happened was pretty cut and dry. Weaver was already on edge after he thought Ordonez showed him up.
Guillen knew what he was doing, just like Weave knew what he was doing, and I’m quite surprised they weren’t both tossed. I’ll be even more surprised if he both don’t get fined and
suspended.
Verrlander should get fined for blatantly threatening Aybar.
BASEBALL !!!
by Figgi4life on Jul 31, 2011 1:58 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
The only crappy thing that's going to come out of all this is the media coughcoughESPNcough
and other MLB analysts talk smack on the Angels about ruining the no-hitter of Verlander. I hope the Angels are fired up and go on a tear starting Tuesday all the way up to the end of the regular season and when we make the playoffs.
Tim Kurkjian actually defended the bunt
He said he doesn’t buy the unwritten rule stuff and pretty much said what everyone is saying here. It was a close game, you need baserunners, and when a guy is pitching like that, sometimes the best opportunity to get on base is a good bunt.
kurkjian is a great analyst
"If somebody had their life on the line, and they’ve got their options on who they want to save their life — tell me who you’re going to pick? You’re going to look at the stats first?" - Kobe Bryant
by desecrator09 on Jul 31, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
The thing that seemed different about this game is how the Angels lost. They went down swinging.
That’s something we haven’t really seen from this team this year. They usually roll over. If they are going to lose, I would prefer they lose like this.
by gyoung08 on Jul 31, 2011 2:08 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
notice it took one of their PLAYERS to fire them up.....
hmmm shouldn’t there be a person on the team that can fire up a team and if he gets ejected it doesn’t really matter because the flowchart can be followed by the batboy anyway?
Jim Bowden on Tony Reagins.
Style: Authoritative, brilliant baseball mind who works well in the trifecta with owner Arte Moreno and manager Mike Scioscia. Builds teams on pitching and defense up the middle. Active at trade deadlines, will trade prospects and has the resources to acquire All-Stars
dude - you really HATE the Angels don't you?
I don’t think I’ve read anything positive about this team from you.
You should just go choose another team. I’m sure there’s room on just about every other teams rally bus.
This team looks really good right now (7/9/11)
Not giving up yet... but man this season stinks right now (6/9/11)
he wants a man in his life
that saves him from himself and is projecting that onto his favorite team. Dude need a shrink and instead finds a blog to post on.
really
you’ve had some of the best jabs at Soth and Tony yourself in your postgame writeups. I know you know Angels management is inept.
Jim Bowden on Tony Reagins.
Style: Authoritative, brilliant baseball mind who works well in the trifecta with owner Arte Moreno and manager Mike Scioscia. Builds teams on pitching and defense up the middle. Active at trade deadlines, will trade prospects and has the resources to acquire All-Stars
you are pointing out all the wrong reasons they are inept
and your analysis of what Weaver will do or not do when he is a free agent based on today’s incident is about the stupidest thing you have ever posted.
I have never been more down on Scioscia than at this point in the season and I gotta say your analysis make him look like a Harvard professor.
so explain why you think
today’s game and Soth made Weaver MORE likely to stay in Anaheim.
Jim Bowden on Tony Reagins.
Style: Authoritative, brilliant baseball mind who works well in the trifecta with owner Arte Moreno and manager Mike Scioscia. Builds teams on pitching and defense up the middle. Active at trade deadlines, will trade prospects and has the resources to acquire All-Stars
the apple doesn't have anything to do with the orange
mixing them together only makes you sound like a fruitcake.
I think you mean fruit salad.
Just sayin’. I administer a lot of Foodnetwork.com forums and come down hard on people who mess up cooking analogies.
Official prediction: The Angels will win the AL west this season.
by RexTookMyStash on Jul 31, 2011 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Cilantro and Coriander are the same thing.
*Head assplodes.
Official prediction: The Angels will win the AL west this season.
by RexTookMyStash on Jul 31, 2011 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nice
They wrote about one of my post at blessyouboys.
i feel special, really.
by Christoffer James V Ferreira on Jul 31, 2011 2:21 PM PDT reply actions
I don't get the Tigers blog at all
I know bias plays a role in this obviously, but they call Weaver a child for blowing up, and then totally write off Verlander threatening Aybar for absolutely no reason. That’s some hardcore cognitive dissonance.
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Jul 31, 2011 2:57 PM PDT reply actions
Has it been over a week since Vernon Wells hit for extra bases?
If so, that needs to change right away! :D
Sorry - standing in the dugout around all your teammates talking smack is not "bad ass"
“Bad ass” would have been saying it to Aybar’s face on the field.
Come on
nothing says bad ass like threatening to throw a baseball on someone while they stand still.
Get a partner
Back in the day all the goods had one … Abbott and Costello … Laurel and Hardy … Rowen and Martin … Bugs and Bunny … the list goes on and on.
exactly.
at least Weaver said it to Guillen
This team looks really good right now (7/9/11)
Not giving up yet... but man this season stinks right now (6/9/11)
classy
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
In my opinion...
This was the BEST loss I’ve seen. Who wrote the stupid rule that you don’t break up a no-hitter with a bunt. Aren’t you supposed to win? Yes, I’d be ticked if it happened to us but it’s up to the team on the field to prevent the hit. And it’s your job as the hitting team to get a hit.
I do not think that Aybar would have bunted had Guillen not done what he did and if Weaver hadn’t been tossed.
Weaver didn’t hit the guy – it was WAY over his head.
If this loss sparks a fire under the butts of this team then it was well worth it.
This team looks really good right now (7/9/11)
Not giving up yet... but man this season stinks right now (6/9/11)
by angelsfan7 on Jul 31, 2011 3:33 PM PDT reply actions 8 recs
This sort of thing is why I want Soth to go out and get tossed after an MFY/Sux 5 strike AB
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
Exactly
If the game is 8-0, there’s no way Aybar bunts.
Verlander acknowledged this in the post-game, but even so, he could only barely contain his disdain for it. Suck it up, dude.
Did anyone hear him say, “It’ll all get worked out on the field” or something to that extent? This ain’t over.
Was watching at family's house, just got home, my personal thoughts
1: I can see where Ordonez was coming from, the fair/foul thing. Don’t think he meant to make it look as if he was showing up Weaver.
2: Guillen crossed a line there, although Weaver was pretty visibly pissed off. I assume Weaver’s emotion bled off into both dugouts, still doesn’t excuse Guillen there. [Plus his last name is the same as Jose Guillen.]
3: Weaver shouldn’t have thrown above Avila’s head. I’m all for unwritten rules and stuff, show us up, we hit you or something like that, but completely against throwing at anyone’s head, ever. Hit someone in the ribs or the butt, never the head. He deserved getting tossed [not that it mattered, he was done anyway.]
4: Speaking of unwritten rules, I don’t get the anger at bunting with a no-hitter going. Verlander had just sat for a long inning, the game had only a 3 run difference, Aybar’s fast, and Trumbo has power. The game was still within reach of winning, any way of getting on should be used. It’s not like we were getting blown out 20-0 where the bunt is only to break up the no-no. It’s no different than a single or a walk.
5: It’s REALLY interesting reading both team blogs after a game like this to see where biases come into play for the same situation. We’re defending Weave for his competitiveness to fire up the team, BYB’s calling him childish and petulant. On the flip side, we’re praising Aybar for learning how to bunt and they’re calling him bushleague.
by TheKingfish on Jul 31, 2011 3:48 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm glad we're on the correct side of the argument
by mustard_man on Jul 31, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Huh, shit, used the wrong flip side.
There was another one, forgot now. Ugh, need to go scan the GT/PGTs again
Ah, here we go
Some at HH were saying how Ordonez and Guillen were showboating, some at BYB thought they were just sticking up for their team, similar to how we think Aybar was standing up for Weave. Personal biases clouding perspectives and whatnot.
Same thing going on the discussion at ESPN. We have red colored glasses, they have orange.
Weaver showed his emotions and let it impact his decisions.
Sticking up for their team?
Who was going after them? After whom were they going? Guillen was sticking up for himself because he thought striking out twice in a row was an attack?
I don't know exactly, that's just the impression I'm getting. You'd have to ask someone from BYB for their perspective.
I was under the impression of a lot of tension throughout the game after Magglio’s homer, and Weaver seemed to be murdering the Tigers with his eyes. Could see why the teams were on edge.
I'm proud of Aybar
Way to stand up for your teammate dude.
There is no room for taunting in baseball. Guillen cost Verlander a no-hitter.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
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by SportsChicken on Jul 31, 2011 4:02 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
I'm just glad that Maicer got that base knock.
The worst of it would have been having to watch the Tigers celebrate a no no. That would not have been acceptable, particularly after how Jared pitched his damn heart out today.
Jared made a couple mistakes today and it cost him. Still, the Tigers were complete fools out there, and Guillen made all of our lists.
Still, nobody out there is concerned in the least about our lineup, and we need guys like Howie and Vernon to step up on a day like today and give Jared an opportunity to win.
Instead, we get to listen to ESPN talk about Verlander’s potential no hitter for the rest of the weekend. Not fun.
Dude, way to speak up for yourself
Posting on this blog isn’t going to help your cause. You’re going to have to take it behind closed doors.
does barry larken hate us?
he always criticizes everything about the Angels
"If somebody had their life on the line, and they’ve got their options on who they want to save their life — tell me who you’re going to pick? You’re going to look at the stats first?" - Kobe Bryant
The are no "I's" in team but
there are some on the Tigers. Verlander, in a post game interview was more concerned about the no-hitter, than his team. It shows not only in his comments, but the fact that he couldn’t make a good throw to first. Ironically, that is the Tigers’ mantra to throw comebackers away in crucial situations. “World Series”
by bighig on Jul 31, 2011 4:32 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Whatever.
I’m gonna watch Santana’s real no-hitter.
by Halowitz on Jul 31, 2011 4:39 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
I can honestly say that I hope the Tigers win their next three games.
by UCIHalo on Jul 31, 2011 4:41 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
+1
"Every time I think I’m out, they pull me back in" -George Costanza
by Howie's Batting Title on Jul 31, 2011 4:43 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
WHAT?! This from a detroit fan?? Must have been joking..
" Anaheim is widely considered to be one of, if not THE, most godforsaken place(s) on planet earth. An absolute hellhole. So there’s that."
"Every time I think I’m out, they pull me back in" -George Costanza
by Howie's Batting Title on Jul 31, 2011 4:58 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
If Anaheim is a “hellhole” what exactly does that make Detroit?
I’m speechless!
Tyler Chatwood and Trevor Bell say, "Kaz who?"
by K3YEROUT on Jul 31, 2011 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
Reminds me when I had someone in Baltimore last year tell me I shouldn’t be complaining about being there, Towson University and the surrounding area have some of the hottest, if not THE hottest chicks in the world. I was like, “Do you know where I’m from?”
NA R.I.P.
HHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What an idiot. A real “stupid”, as Stirrup might put it.
Kurt Mensching over at BYB summed up the bunt thing well, imo
Next issue: Should Erick Aybar have bunted in the top of the eighth inning? Sure, unwritten rules of baseball and all that say no. But it was a relatively close game at the time and bunting is part of his game. Verlander took exception, and in the heat of the moment that’s easy enough to understand. But it was fair for Aybar to do it. The object of the game is to win, far as I know. The Angels and Tigers are both in division-title races; LA is within 2 games of Texas tonight. Nothing wrong with them trying to win by playing their game. Now, you might want to ask if he bunted in reaction to the seventh inning fireworks. But ultimately, bunting is allowed in baseball. So, whatever. It obviously got into the Tigers’ heads and rattled them a bit, leading to the Angels cutting the game to 3-2 after some mistakes.
by TheKingfish on Jul 31, 2011 5:03 PM PDT reply actions 4 recs
Rec'd
Official prediction: The Angels will win the AL west this season.
by RexTookMyStash on Jul 31, 2011 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Updated: Un-rec'd after reading their stupid post game thread earlier.
Apparently they hold copy editing to a very high standard. Which is ironic considering their public school system, or what passes for one in deh-tois these days.
Official prediction: The Angels will win the AL west this season.
by RexTookMyStash on Jul 31, 2011 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I prefer to say, "you are soo good lookin'."
Official prediction: The Angels will win the AL west this season.
by RexTookMyStash on Jul 31, 2011 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I probably shouldn't do this, but I just want to say that MH252525 is a huge tempermental wet blanket and I'm going to ignore the rest of his posts this season until he learns how to have a little fun and not be so damn depressing all the time.
Official prediction: The Angels will win the AL west this season.
we all get a little angry with the team sometimes
but I agree that he needs to cheer up. I don’t think he realizes that we are 9 games over .500?
Baseball is a funny game...
oh I know we are 9 games over 500
I also know we could easily be in first place if not for Soth and Tony.
Jim Bowden on Tony Reagins.
Style: Authoritative, brilliant baseball mind who works well in the trifecta with owner Arte Moreno and manager Mike Scioscia. Builds teams on pitching and defense up the middle. Active at trade deadlines, will trade prospects and has the resources to acquire All-Stars
I agree with you man.
People like to settle for 1st place..Well I dont. I think we CAN do better. And the fact that we keep playing mathis says alot about this offense mindset (sosh).
conger > mathis
I'm not settling for second place.
But I don’t think we should constantly bash our manager when he has the team 9 games over .500 and just 2 out of first. Tony deserves all the criticism he gets, but as of right now, this team can very well win the division. Then the postseason becomes a complete different game and, with our pitching, I think we will excel if we get there.
Baseball is a funny game...
I agree.
A lot of use don’t like what’s going on in the FO or with the lineup, but we also don’t mention it every five minutes ad nauseum to the point of fatigue.
Official prediction: The Angels will win the AL west this season.
by RexTookMyStash on Jul 31, 2011 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions
us*
Official prediction: The Angels will win the AL west this season.
by RexTookMyStash on Jul 31, 2011 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Rex Re:
What did I miss? Gamethread?
"Every time I think I’m out, they pull me back in" -George Costanza
by Howie's Batting Title on Jul 31, 2011 6:00 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
look
I agreed with positive comments about Weaver and Aybar, and I was the first to rec. BigTizzles post. I think I’m the only poster to successfully call a Vernon Bomb (3 run homer against the Dodgers). I am positive when I see positive. I love a lot of the Angels. Peter, Trumbo, Aybar, Weaver, Haren, Walden, Downs, Kendrick, Trout, Maicer, Santana, Chatwood, and I see them being sabotaged by Soth and Tony and a ton of other people see it too. Just in this thread we have comments about Soth’s lineups, his roster management, his lousy interviews, his bullpen roles……. I wish I could be more positive but it’s kinda hard when I see Mathis and Vernon in the lineup everyday and Vernon even hitting 4th…… How do you cope with that? I mean that doesn’t drive you up a wall that the Angels are starting 2 of the worst players in baseball? Willingly…….
I’ll try to mix in more positive comments. Like I said I do love the majority of the team, especially the young core.
Jim Bowden on Tony Reagins.
Style: Authoritative, brilliant baseball mind who works well in the trifecta with owner Arte Moreno and manager Mike Scioscia. Builds teams on pitching and defense up the middle. Active at trade deadlines, will trade prospects and has the resources to acquire All-Stars
If i waste my time doing a search of all your Santana comments
Am I gonna find you hopping on Ervin’s jock beause of Wednesday? Serious?
My shit list
1a Tony
1b Soth
2a Mathis
2b Vernon
3 Torii
4 Fraudney
Ervin’s never been my favorite pitcher, in fact I probably would have rather traded him than the Colonel, but he’s been a good pitcher to have on a staff.
Jim Bowden on Tony Reagins.
Style: Authoritative, brilliant baseball mind who works well in the trifecta with owner Arte Moreno and manager Mike Scioscia. Builds teams on pitching and defense up the middle. Active at trade deadlines, will trade prospects and has the resources to acquire All-Stars
"Don't mind my never ending constant bitching becuase I like Bourjos sometimes!"
That’s pretty much what I culled from that diatribe.
We all know how you feel about TR’s degree, and how stupid and stubborn think our manager is. And that’s the point, we know. You should rant about it on the next thread though just in case we have a new member that doesn’t know you yet.
Official prediction: The Angels will win the AL west this season.
by RexTookMyStash on Jul 31, 2011 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
What would replacing Mathis and Vernon in the lineup do?
I’m assuming you’d replace Mathis with Conger and Vernon with Trout. I don’t disagree with either of those moves, but that probably would add zero wins to the Angels. Trout’s hitting has shown he isn’t quite ready yet. Conger isn’t either, even though he’s an upgrade over the Mathis black hole. Meanwhile, you piss off Wells and now instead of an expensive waste of space, you’ve got an expensive clubhouse disruptor.
Reagins saddled Scioscia with Wells. Be pissed at him.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
I was going to mention this as well,
I mean, what does he want to see? Wells on the bench? Then he’d be crying about how much money is riding pine. I’m peacing out.
Official prediction: The Angels will win the AL west this season.
by RexTookMyStash on Jul 31, 2011 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions
you are right
in that at this point in time the Angels are up a creek w/o a paddle. But they put themselves in this situation. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
If you would have asked Angels fans this off-season if they wanted Mathis as their catcher I’m betting 95% would have said no. They could have gotten another catcher and worked in Conger. Or god forbid they could have realized Napoli was a decent catcher and kept him.
As for Wells they can play Trout, but again it comes down to they never should have gotten him in the 1st place. Most of the people here were livid when it his trade was announced.
Jim Bowden on Tony Reagins.
Style: Authoritative, brilliant baseball mind who works well in the trifecta with owner Arte Moreno and manager Mike Scioscia. Builds teams on pitching and defense up the middle. Active at trade deadlines, will trade prospects and has the resources to acquire All-Stars
The point you're missing is,
Yes, many were unhappy we lost Napoli and many were unhappy we got Wells, but this happened about 8 months ago. You are still complaining about it pretty much daily. Napoli is gone and Wells is here. It’s not changing.
by LanaBanana on Jul 31, 2011 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was one of those people, believe me
And I know some here think that was all Scioscia. While I would agree Scioscia has more input in personnel moves than most GMS, first, I still don’t think that means he’s the one who worked out the deal with Toronto. He may have given it his stamp of approval, but Reagins is the one who made the transaction happen.
Second, if Scioscia IS calling all the personnel shots (and there’s no evidence of that other than the suspicion of a few baseball writers), that’s on Moreno. Scioscia should be managing the personnel the GM gets him, and offering some input when asked for it. That’s it. If Moreno has given him de facto GM power, that’s Moreno’s fault for putting the guy in a position that he’s not suited for. If you’re all ready to take a carriage ride around the city but someone hooked a ferret up to pull it instead of a horse, are you going to get mad at the ferret? It ain’t his fault.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
I'm with you
as this travesty of a FO has been allowed to continue I’ve gotten exponentially more upset at Arte. How can he not see the incompetence he has placed in charge of his team?
Jim Bowden on Tony Reagins.
Style: Authoritative, brilliant baseball mind who works well in the trifecta with owner Arte Moreno and manager Mike Scioscia. Builds teams on pitching and defense up the middle. Active at trade deadlines, will trade prospects and has the resources to acquire All-Stars
I already loved Weave
but I REALLY love him now—dig that feisty “f you arseholes” attitude.
I agree with Jason way above—this day is firing up the clubhouse.
We have to have to have to sign Dream Weaver to a long term contract no matter what it takes.
Period. (lol)
by Raaddad on Jul 31, 2011 5:18 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Just watched it
my scientfic analysis is that Carlos Guillen is a piece of shit. Set up Avillas.
Unlike this cat, my love for the LAA will never die.
by NathanielS on Jul 31, 2011 5:24 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
That doesn't sound very scientific.
Official prediction: The Angels will win the AL west this season.
by RexTookMyStash on Jul 31, 2011 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
...with great findings.
Official prediction: The Angels will win the AL west this season.
by RexTookMyStash on Jul 31, 2011 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey there. Tigers fan here.
Fun game, good series (2 blowouts, 2 well pitched ones). I have to admit Guillen was a little jerky, but he’s usually a class act. Same goes for Ordonez (though I don’t think he showed up Weaver intentionally). And Rev, your recap was mean-spirited. But also effing hilarious. Well played.
by ChrisDTX on Jul 31, 2011 5:46 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Fair enough about the Guillen/Ordonez thing, not being jerkoffs [agree about Ordonez]
I think everyone just got into the heat of the moment.
understood.
The whole problem I have is that none of this would have happened if Guillen just trotted around the bases. But deliberately showboating at the pitcher should merit an ejection. The fact that Weaver gets ejected next pitch throwing way above Avila is frustrating. We knew it was coming, but Guillen definitely instigated it.
Baseball is a funny game...
I don't disagree
Carlos was out of line. Like Torii Hunter said after the game, everyone was stupid.
by ChrisDTX on Jul 31, 2011 6:01 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Was gonna write something similar on BYB, but have to wait 24 hours...
Honestly, I think if Guillen just takes his trip around the bases, then nothing happens. That’s when things got out of hand. Weaver does have a tendency to get animated on the mound, but it was basically between Magglio and him, and up til that point, Weaver hadn’t thrown at anyone. If nobody else had intervened, I don’t think the benches would’ve been warned and Avila wouldn’t have been thrown at.
The bunt, IMO, was both a legit play in a close game and a valid way for Aybar to backup his teammate within the rules. I understand it pissed Verlander off, but hey, lines had already been crossed at that point. Plus, it made the rest of the game more interesting.
Anyway, it was a good series (from what little I saw) and today’s game lived up to the hype. I really enjoyed it despite the outcome. Re-match in the playoffs…hopefully.
PS: It really is funny how easy it is for Rev to get a rise out of the rest of SBN. You should explain to your buddies that their anger just makes him stronger…kind of like Darth Sidious.
Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.
by Commander_Nate on Jul 31, 2011 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
By the by...
With four plate appearances Sunday (a strikeout and three walks), the $9 million option for 2012 in Bobby Abreu’s contract became guaranteed.
Tyler Chatwood and Trevor Bell say, "Kaz who?"
Buzzkill
"Every time I think I’m out, they pull me back in" -George Costanza
by Howie's Batting Title on Jul 31, 2011 6:07 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Speak for yourself!! I'm pumped from todays game!!
"Every time I think I’m out, they pull me back in" -George Costanza
by Howie's Batting Title on Jul 31, 2011 6:43 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Some interesting post-game reactions here:
http://www.ocregister.com/sports/verlander-310297-weaver-game.html
“He pointed to me in the dugout and said, “I’m going to hit you next year,’” Aybar said. “All right, come get me.”
“I thought that was all stupid. Everybody was stupid,” Angels veteran Torii Hunter said. "There was a lot of intensity. You say, ‘All right.’ You play the game within the game.’
“That was unprofessional on both sides. Very.”
“From a pitcher’s perspective, yes,” Verlander said when asked if bunting there crossed one of baseball’s murky, ethical lines. "From the Angels’ perspective, I doubt they feel that way. It’s a three-run game.
“You’re going to get two vastly different opinions on that based on which locker room you’re in.”
s certainly agreed with Verlander. They booed Aybar in the eighth and again when he came to bat in the ninth. But Tigers manager Jim Leyland said he had “absolutely no problem” with Aybar bunting in that situation.
“A beautiful play,” Leyland said. "They’ve got a good team with a lot of speed. They’re trying to win a pennant just like we are. I don’t have a problem with that play at all. He’s trying to get on base and, as it turned out, that was a big play for them, one that got things going for them.
by ~MMP~ on Jul 31, 2011 6:00 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
I don't know much about Leyland but he sounds like a pretty stand-up dude.
Official prediction: The Angels will win the AL west this season.
by RexTookMyStash on Jul 31, 2011 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Torii and Leyland have good heads on their shoulders
As for the first quote, eh. Don’t think that’s quite necessary. Already posted about why the bunt was fine [Leyland and others said the same thing], but if Verlander does decide to bean Aybar, let’s hope he doesn’t throw one of his 100 mph heaters at his head.
[How in the hell was he reaching 100+ in the eighth inning?]
I know everyone is going to disagree with me like normal
but this is even more ammunition for my dislike of Torii. He goes and calls Jered Weaver unprofessional???? Let’s put aside the issue of what Jered did today was unprofessional or not, but am I the only one that sees Torii calling out a teammate for being unprofessional as the unprofessional act?
How many players called you out for being “unprofessional” Torii, when you got caught stealing 3rd base twice in like a weeks span with 2 outs and your run meaning NOTHING. I don’t remember hearing Jered Weaver telling the OC Register what a stupid unprofessional right fielder we had……
Jim Bowden on Tony Reagins.
Style: Authoritative, brilliant baseball mind who works well in the trifecta with owner Arte Moreno and manager Mike Scioscia. Builds teams on pitching and defense up the middle. Active at trade deadlines, will trade prospects and has the resources to acquire All-Stars
Again with the negative.
Bro cheer up. This team isn’t as bad as you think.
Baseball is a funny game...
Proof again you don't have a clue
If you understood clubhouse culture you would understand exactly what Torii is doing, but you are blinded by your need for an enema so I cannot help you figure out why Torii making that statement was a good thing.
yea you are right
I don’t think you could ever explain to me how the team leader calling out our best player for being unprofessional is a good thing. I’m sure though that it makes Jered Weaver all warm and bubbly inside and makes him more likely to sign with us, right???
Jim Bowden on Tony Reagins.
Style: Authoritative, brilliant baseball mind who works well in the trifecta with owner Arte Moreno and manager Mike Scioscia. Builds teams on pitching and defense up the middle. Active at trade deadlines, will trade prospects and has the resources to acquire All-Stars
Leyland called Aybar's bunt beautiful, even though it could have broken up his no-hit bid.
Verland will not not re-sign with Detroit now b/c Leyland is obviously siding with us.
Official prediction: The Angels will win the AL west this season.
by RexTookMyStash on Jul 31, 2011 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions
hmm
did I miss the part where Leyland called him unpro?
Jim Bowden on Tony Reagins.
Style: Authoritative, brilliant baseball mind who works well in the trifecta with owner Arte Moreno and manager Mike Scioscia. Builds teams on pitching and defense up the middle. Active at trade deadlines, will trade prospects and has the resources to acquire All-Stars
torii ≠ soth
Torii gives a conciliatory quote so the reporters don’t ask teammates who are less experienced with the media and they accidentally say some stupid shit.
Wake the fuck up.
See I can actually understand that if you said it about Soth
Soth addressed the situation with neither backing Weaver nor saying the Tigers were at fault. I can appreciate that now. Soth however also didn’t bash Weaver IMO like Torii did. Why couldn’t Torii say something similar to what Soth said?
Personally I think the best response was Mota’s. He didn’t say Weaver handled the situation correctly, but he also said there’s no room in baseball for admiring your homeruns. And even Guillen would have to admit that deep down he knows that much is true.
Jim Bowden on Tony Reagins.
Style: Authoritative, brilliant baseball mind who works well in the trifecta with owner Arte Moreno and manager Mike Scioscia. Builds teams on pitching and defense up the middle. Active at trade deadlines, will trade prospects and has the resources to acquire All-Stars
read this
http://www.halosheaven.com/2010/3/17/1378826/halos-heaven-community-guidelines
especially this part:
The purpose here is to have fun.
If you are not having fun, come back when you are ready to have fun.
PESSIMISTIC? Bitch once, then offer a solution. Don’t bitch twice, it’s alright.
And in retort to your post above, note that you are now blaming TORII for Weaver not signing with us – which he has yet to NOT do. What if Weaver is jealous of Santana pitching a no-no, oh but you love Ervin so it could never be because of a player that you like. See your logic is not logic and your conclusions are a result of non-logic.
MH hate = hated player bad for everything
Candygram for Mongo.
I'm with MH252525
I think Torii should shut his mouth and try to get his OPS around .700
More Howie please...
This is Weaver's 6th season, and Hunter's 15th
The bigger veteran can say whatever he wants, and above that, Torii is the leader on the club. When he talks, everyone — including Weaver — listens. It doesn’t matter if he gets caught at 3rd twice in 2 weeks. There’s a pecking order in the clubhouse, and Torii is at the top.
That said, I think MH brought up a decent point a while back regarding the ability of the club to re-sign Weaver. This won’t be a big thing in those talks — but it’s something. My view is, Weaver will test the market regardless. It’s just a matter of how badly he wants to stay here, but more about how much $$ Arte will be willing to give him.
And that's fine, sure he's the leader from a veteran standpoint
I agree with him that everyone was stupid. But, Torii is done as a player. He looks done.
More Howie please...
you're not going to believe this but...
I agree with you on the Torii comments. He needs to not disrespect his team. Here again is one of the reasons I like that Sosh doesn’t say anything.
Torii should have said what Wells did and that’s you’ll have to ask him.
This team looks really good right now (7/9/11)
Not giving up yet... but man this season stinks right now (6/9/11)
Wells and Weaver's comments
“I come from the school of respecting the game, respecting the guys around me and that kind of stuff is uncalled for,” Angels outfielder Vernon Wells said.
But Wells stopped short of saying he respected what Weaver had done in response to Guillen’s showboating.
“That’s a question he’s going to have to answer,” Wells said. “We all handle things in different ways. Weaver felt that was what needed to be done there. I’m with him any way he wants to go.”
“There’s a level of respect in this game and a kind of respect I have for those guys,” the Angels right-hander said after being ejected for throwing at Tigers catcher Alex Avila. "I’ve never shown anybody up in this game. I respected those guys. I thought they respected me. I’m not one to go out there and do that kind of thing.
“I just felt I got disrespected.”
“I thought maybe it was done after I didn’t anything after Ordonez flew out (in the sixth inning). I thought it was water under the bridge,” Weaver said.
“I’m not going to go out there and try to hit somebody or hurt somebody. … But what Guillen did, I’m not going to just go out there and take that. I’m a competitor. I’m not going to show anyone up. But after what they did, I’m not going to take that.”
Good enough for me.
I’m done with it.
"Keep pushing for us." Ervin Santana after NO-HITTER (July 27, 2011)
if that's all Wells
said then I agree with him. That’s what I think Torii should have said. Undeniably Vernon makes it clear he has Weaver’s back. If only Vernon the baseball player was anywhere near Vernon the person. Sounds like a class guy.
Jim Bowden on Tony Reagins.
Style: Authoritative, brilliant baseball mind who works well in the trifecta with owner Arte Moreno and manager Mike Scioscia. Builds teams on pitching and defense up the middle. Active at trade deadlines, will trade prospects and has the resources to acquire All-Stars
Let's talk about the real issue here: Score some runs
1) Put Trumbo and Howie higher in the order.
2) Don’t play Mathis ever.
3) Win baseball games.
Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.
by Commander_Nate on Jul 31, 2011 6:20 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Where have you been?
This team operates at a loss financially, remember?
Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.
by Commander_Nate on Jul 31, 2011 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Understandable
Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.
by Commander_Nate on Jul 31, 2011 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions
HuffPost article on WTY
Torii Hunter’s statement: “That was stupid – it was all stupid. Everybody was stupid,” he said. “That was unprofessional on both sides.”
There was more, too. Erick Aybar tried to bunt for a hit leading off the eighth against Verlander, often considered a violation of baseball etiquette when a pitcher has a no-hitter going in the late innings. BULLSHIT!! The idea is to win. Screw political correctness…..WIN!
This was a proud win. Our boys fought. I hope this gets the fire in them going.
I'm an Angels fan
For the record, since I am Boog Powell sized....
had I been at first base today, my pitcher wouldn’t have had to throw at anybody. Guillen would’ve been decked two steps before reaching first base.
And, with any luck, after the brawl subsided and they put in the replacements for Guillen and myself, the pinch runner might forget to touch first on his trip around the bases, allow my replacement to tag 1B and get the out, denying Detroit the go-ahead run.
Yeah. Kinda Ty Cobb of me.
Mike Scioscia has zero credibility to get mad at anyone, or anything. He is the reason Jeff Mathis plays baseball.
by Stirrups on Jul 31, 2011 8:45 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
DAMN I HATE
NOT BEING ABLE TO WATCH THE GAMES
I take it you don't have the DOV Secret Decoder Ring
You need to drink more ovaltine
-Quad Fin Rider
write a long fanpost
about why you cannot quit your job and move to somewhere you would rather be
by Rev Halofan on Jul 31, 2011 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
will do rev
I take it you don't have the DOV Secret Decoder Ring
You need to drink more ovaltine
-Quad Fin Rider
I think WTY said it best:
I hope the fact that this is on repeat over and over doesn’t get me in trouble for going over my f-bomb quota. Granted, it is WTY saying it, not me.
Faith Focus Finish
by b0rd3rline on Jul 31, 2011 11:18 PM PDT reply actions 6 recs
eye heart
small gif and righteous weave
by Rev Halofan on Jul 31, 2011 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Love it.
This team looks really good right now (7/9/11)
Not giving up yet... but man this season stinks right now (6/9/11)
When Torii lost it in Detroit last year
Did Weaver go out publicly and call him unprofessional?
=/
Looks like I’m going to the big A next year when these clowns come to town
I think we all should.
This team looks really good right now (7/9/11)
Not giving up yet... but man this season stinks right now (6/9/11)
that was hilarious!
“Tempers flared because Venezuelan socialist Magglio Ordonez had decided to admire an earlier HR, hoping that the pellet shrinking into the distance will recur in the prostate of his beloved Hugo Chavez, dying in a Cuban cancer ward despite the millions Ordonez has showered on his regime.”
Almost fell out of my chair laughing so hard. Rangers are going to run away with this thing now, the only weakness they had prior to the deadline is now the biggest strength in all of baseball.
I think LSB would be more than happy to have you.
Official prediction: The Angels will win the AL west this season.
by RexTookMyStash on Aug 1, 2011 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Ha!
Seriously, I am lame at finding people’s email addresses or I would have just emailed him.
Off to try again.
THIS… IS… ANAHEIM!!
Some additional thoughts
1. I was the first one to suggest in the game thread that Aybar might bunt to break up the no hitter. This was minutes before it happened. If I knew it was coming, why didn’t the Tigers? If they had suspected Aybar might bunt, they should have played their corner IFers way in to prevent a bunt basehit.
2. I think Wendelstedt could have handled the situation more appropriately. He should have tossed Guillen immediately for his strut after the home run, then warned both teams. Or, as someone else pointed out, warned both teams after the Ordonez home run. It was a tense game from that point on.
3. This speaks to a larger, separate issue that umpires now police baseball for better or worse, instead of the players (and this was brought up by several people). In the olden days, Guillen probably never showboats knowing that he or the next guy was liable to get a fastball in his ear hole the next time up.
4. Everybody’s actions were wrong. I don’t blame Weaver for being mad, especially after the Guillen HR “Barry Bonds-ian” strut. Nevertheless, I don’t condone him throwing at Avila’s head. That was wrong, too.
More Howie please...
I didn't see the game, but
I read a post-game quote by Leyland earlier today that validates your point #1. He said he was playing Kelly (3B) in, ready for a bunt. I’ll try to track down the exact quote/link.
From http://www.ocregister.com/sports/verlander-310297-weaver-game.html
“I thought it was a great play. And I’ll tell you what — how you know I thought it was a great play in my opinion — we had (third baseman Don) Kelly playing in for the bunt.”
(Same link w/ quotes that MMP posted last night at 6.)
exactly Cath, and if anything was "bush league" it was Guillen's taunting and strutting after his homer
It was a fitting rebuttal that Aybar tried to bunt his way on. My gosh, what an entertaining inning.
More Howie please...
For 2); 3); and 4)
Take away all the hand holding, and coddling that the MLB is doing. Don’t let the umpires have control of the “might happens” of the game.
Let Them Fight. If two competitors get into it let them go for awhile, get sweaty, and tired, then break it up. Make the rules like the NBA’s. If you leave the bench, you will be tossed from the game. If you are not in the lineup at the time of the infraction, you will be suspended, and fined, without a replacement.
If you take away some of the restrictions from these “adult” players, and make them, not the teams, teammates, management, officials, etc…. The players responsible for whatever they do can, and will hurt,, their organization, and teammates. Only them will this game straighten out from the situations that transpired this past Sunday.
Most players don’t want to fight anyway.
First off
1. Verlander is a punk-ass bitch! I mean, it’s a 3 run game. If the Tigers were up by 7-8 runs, then I can see where Verlander can take umbrage with Aybar bunting.
2. Verlander is a selfish bitch! Shoot, all he talked about after the game was his no-hitter. Shoot, he probably threw the ball away on purpose to get an error and keep his no-no intact (well maybe not since he’s a sorry ass fielder….can’t field his position worth shit).
3. Guillen is a punk ass bitch too! That nonsense after the home run was bush league (more so than a guy doing what needs doing to help his team win)!
4. Weaver showed heart (right or wrong)! I say he was right cause I’m biased like that!
5. Verlander threatening Aybar after the inning?!?! Bitch please!
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