Mike Trout Major League Equivalencies
by BigGame48 on Jul 8, 2011 9:54 AM PDT
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PrintThis nifty MLE calculator allows you to plug in a minor leaguer's stats and pump out numbers as if that player was playing in the big leagues. I entered Mike Trout's numbers through 74 games and doubled everything essentially giving him a full-seasons worth. Not an exact science, but a fun exercise nonetheless. Can't say I was disappointed with the results...
Trout's ridiculous numbers in AA look like something you'd see in a video game. The MLE calculator spits out much more modest numbers, however, the results are nothing to be ashamed of. Here is Trout's Major League adjusted stat line for 2011:
| Level | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | K | AVG. | OBP. | SLG. | SB | CS | HBP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| AA- Midland | 570 | 138 | 188 | 24 | 22 | 18 | 54 | 76 | 120 | 0.330 | 0.422 | 0.544 | 56 | 16 | 16 |
| MLB - Angels | 598 | 96 | 156 | 19 | 15 | 13 | 38 | 52 | 132 | 0.260 | 0.331 | 0.406 | 44 | 18 | 11 |
Trout's adjusted line equates to a wOBA of .338 which would place him behind only Howie Kendrick and Bobby Abreu on this year's squad. Over about 150 games that .338 wOBA translates into an oWAR of right around 2.25. I've heard he's every bit as good of an outfielder as Bourjos, but let's scale his dWAR down to be safe. Bourjos is on pace for 2 dWAR so let's give Trout a dWAR of 1.5. Add in the positional adjustment for playing a premium position and Trout comes out to a 4.25-Win player at 19 years old.
No pressure, rook!
(I'll be in 422 tonight if anyone wants to grab a beer after his first big league knock!)
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The Fangraphs minor league stats are a few days stale.
If you use the MiLB stats, you get MLE: .258/.317/.401.
That OPS of .718 is almost identical to Bourjos’s current OPS of .720 — and I’m sure management views Trout at this stage of his development as an almost perfect equivalent.
I didn't realize Trout has 18HRs...
his power has really improved
go long with extenze...i do
by angelsownredsux on Jul 8, 2011 11:24 AM PDT reply actions
he has 9... that's just if he were at a full season I believe
Ahhh... Yes... Finally back home in SoCal!!!
by stuck in Romania on Jul 8, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn't either.
I commented in the other thead about someone’s prediction of 100 OPS+ that it would out-produce the $41m outfielders surrounding him.
Pollyanna is dead. But don't get mad at me, I didn't kill her. Tony Reagins did.
Mike Trout! Mike Trout! Mike Trout!
I can’t wait to watch tonight.
Sweet country fried porkchops...
This kid now only needs to have his bust bronzed for the Hall of Fame and I think we’re done with him.
I know everyone is geeked. Despite the recent play of the team, it’s been a chore to watch them all season so ALL of us want something to cheer about. Hell, I’m trying to find a way for us to get to the game tonight (it would be my first, but we don’t live close).
But if I thought the B Wood expectations were high, those days seemed like we were getting a new copy machine intern compared to Trout.
This place will go into complete shitstorm mode if he doesn’t get a hit or worse, looks bad in the process after a game – or more.
Half the people will start screaming he’s too young, he’s not ready. The other half will scream he needs weeks of constant at-bats. And yet another half will yell the Angels can’t develop talent or that Mathis needs to start in his place (Yogi Berra math).
The dude is still a teenager.
There is a reason they don’t call AA, college, or high school the MLB.
(I’m not trying to rain on any parade, just hoping the suicide hotline has a large call bank if he doesn’t hit for the cycle tonight – eeeeeeeeeasy and let’s enjoy it ;)
oh you ARE trying to rain on the parade
fuck of.
by Rev Halofan on Jul 8, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
all i got out of this post was
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
by clover_black on Jul 8, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
bitch went bankrupt
Corporate goons went into Marie Callender chain restaurants and made people leave mid-meal.
did they get a free pie on the way out?
their banana cream is off the chain.
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
by clover_black on Jul 8, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
no pie
people who had placed orders for pick up were SOL, the doors were chained shut.
Talk about killing a brand.
wow, just read about it.. 3 of their branches in washington.
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
by clover_black on Jul 8, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm going to forget I read this
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some douche named DFA from AN
by 2pintsofbooze on Jul 8, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Whoa - the Angels got a new copy machine intern?
About time. That old one was always screwing up my copies. I said COLLATED DAMMIT!
Defending maligned chants since 2009
by Gorbachav5 on Jul 8, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I think you underestimate this community
There’s always the one or two chicken littles but I think most of us are tempering expectations and will be geeked if he just hits better than Mathis. Even if he falls on his face, all indications are this kid has unbelievable make-up and he’ll only be better for it.
We’re just excited, man! I don’t care how well he does.
These aren't my numbers/projections
Just sharing what I found when using the tool
by BigGame48 on Jul 8, 2011 12:21 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I wasn't calling you a chicken little
Your contributions are typically good reading. I just meant that I don’t think anyone is going to jump off a bridge if he fails to meet the projections you posted for us, other than the inevitable chicken littles who are going to say something stupid regardless of what happens.
Chicken littles???!!!
Love it. Stolen I will please borrow and put to great use!
Chicken littles ha! Nice…
"We are not on an austerity program," Arte Moreno
Good thing Rivera/Beltran are gone so we have room for him and P-Bo next year...
Oh wait.
Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.
The gift
that just keeps on fuckin’ giving. Oh well, with all these old dudes around Petey and Trout should be able to find their share of ab’s this year and next. The Beetle seems especially achey-breaky and he’s the youngest of all the oldies.
Well, Torii is out after next year.
With Abreu’s option vesting, he’s our probable 2012 DH (and given his year this year, I really don’t have much problem with it, even if the traditional DH power is all but gone from him at this point).
So that just means we’ll basically be doing a 5 man rotation through the OF/DH next year of Bourjos/Wells/Hunter/Trout/Abreu…which we probably should be anyway, given the age of three of those guys.
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Jul 8, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I know
It would just be really nice if we could plug them both in full-time and not waste any money/talent on the bench.
Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.
by Commander_Nate on Jul 8, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
If you bet on injuries, it's a wise investment
Even with a rotation of the five of them, Trout could quite easily start 120+ games next year here.
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Jul 8, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Could work...
But there is also the Morales/Trumbo situation. I would think Morales would be ready to play 1B by next April but there is no real guarantee. If he can play regularly that leaves Trumbo high and dry, and I would hate to see that happen. If Morales is limited to DH then it gets really messy with Abreu and K-Mo splitting ABs at DH.
Personally, I think this team has to trade Abreu. I realize we would have to pick up most of Abreu’s $9MM contract and likely get nothing more than a lower level never-will-be in return, but there just isn’t room for everyone. Abreu seems to be the odd man out because he doesn’t have a massive contract, and he is not under team control for the next handful of years (Trumbo, Bourjos).
I’m a big Bobby fan, but the Halos are going to need some flexibility with the DH spot next year and he simply does not allow for that. An OF rotation of Wells, Hunter, Pete, Trout and a Kendrys-heavy platoon with Trumbo at 1B sounds good to me. Seems like the right amount of depth but enough ABs to go around to keep all of these guys on the field pretty regularly.
You guys really think he's never coming back?
Or do you mean don’t count on him returning to his previous performance level? I know it’s taking a long time for him to return, but it also took Juan Rivera about a year and a half to return to normal. I think it’s a bit premature to say his career is over at 28 years old.
I expect he will come back from the injury...
just not with the Angels.
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Jul 8, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Nah, he will for sure step into the box again for the Angels
What happens after that remains to be seen. If he returns to anything close to his former self, he gets 1st base back. Trumbo becomes an OF/DH/Bench player or a nice trade chip for a 3B or SP.
Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.
by Commander_Nate on Jul 8, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Like Welch above
I wouldn’t count on Morales coming back…but even if he does (and God, I really hope so…to watch our Fielder/Pujols/Teixeira type hitter end his career as abruptly as he began tearing it up in 2009 would just suck beyond words), I wouldn’t mind Trumbo being the odd man out…power hitting first baseman under team control who is very young? Sounds like a pretty stellar trade piece.
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Jul 8, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I see the FO trading k-mo.
trumbo will hold shit over until cron cometh.
i think there is some bad blood between the FO & kendry(s).
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
Semi-OT
That MLE calculator is sweet. Any idea when the pitching version will be up and running? I could kill so much downtime at work with these two toys.
Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.
He always seems to rise far above expectations
Im guessing 315/395/417
Mike Trout- The Man, The Future, The Legend
by miketrout on Jul 8, 2011 12:10 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Don't you mean "I always seem to rise far above expectations?"
by ~MMP~ on Jul 8, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
crap
he’s already talking about himself in the 3rd person
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some douche named DFA from AN
by 2pintsofbooze on Jul 8, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Mike Trout says don't worry
Mike Trout- The Man, The Future, The Legend
by miketrout on Jul 8, 2011 12:58 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
2pints says alright
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some douche named DFA from AN
by 2pintsofbooze on Jul 8, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
The MLE calculator seems a bit ridiculous
In order for Trout to project as a .300 hitter he’d have to hit .393 in Arkansas.
Nevermind that our very own Howie Kendrick
flirted with .400 a few times in the minors and hit .369 in Salt Lake.
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Jul 9, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Nope, not ridiculous.
Paul McAnulty hit .331/.426/.649 in Arkansas last season — better numbers than Trout — and he came to Anaheim and hit not a bit.
Legit MLB hitters go to places like Salt Lake and Arkansas and rake. It’s why 31-yr-old Gil Velazquez is hitting .366 in Salt Lake, but shouldn’t be expected to hit anything like that in Anaheim, were he called up.
The MLE calculator does not account for age
McAnulty was 29 when he played at AA last year. Trout is 19.
Combined WAR to date of your Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim Fantastic Five (VW, Torii, Kazmir, GMJ, Premium) -1. WAR leader: GMJ:0. Combined 2011 salary: $66,600,000.
Anyone notice that it says Midland???
AA hasn’t been in Midland for the Halos for YEARS.
dissenter, dubious and devil's advocate to blog monitors everywhere.
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Jul 8, 2011 6:22 PM PDT reply actions
The Angels depth chart
Has Mike Trout listed above Peter Bourjos. Is this just because of Peter’s injury, or does this mean something more?
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