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Blue Jays Offense Scraps Out 5-4 Win as Angels Offense Is Just Scrapple

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The fiercely agressive Toronto offense - anybody remember when we had ourselves one of those? - kept charging against Angel pitching, catching up with a tie in the bottom of the 9th with Jordan Walden's MLB leading 8th blown save of the season. This granted us the rare privilege of watching Fernando Rodney pitching to Jose Bautista with the winning run on base and a rookie ump behind the plate suffering an incredbly erratic strike zone. So we get:

Walk, putting winning run on second.

Pitching change, putting Hisanori Takahashi on the mound.

Base hit by Edward Encarnacion, putting Yunel Escobar across the plate the for the loss. 

 

The Angels got out to a jumpstart lead on the backs of the few bats bothering to show up in August. Torii Hunter (hitting .475 for August coming into the game) jacked his 15th of the year in the first inning to stake Dan Haren to a 2-0 lead. Peter Bourjos (.286 for August) tripled and scored on a sac fly by Alberto Callaspo (.310 for August). Those three would amount to all 4 RBI's for the game.

Meanwhile Mark Trumbo (.270 and falling), then Vernon Wells (.167), then Howie Kendrick (.200), then Erick Aybar (.071 and plummeting) and Abreu (.118) brought an august Winter of Suck to late summer.

Meanwhile, the fastball loving Toronto Blue Jays kept swinging away and feasting on Angels pitching. Dan Haren cruised through the Toronto order the first time, but then yielded back to back homers in the 4th. Bourjos doubled home Bobby Wilson in the 5th to puch the lead out to 4 - 2, but that would be it for the day. Haren surrendered the third Blue Jay run in te 6th after a leadoff double. Downs burned through a very tough 8th with Aybar turning an interesting defensive play by going to third base on a grounder and converting what could easily have been runners at the corners with 1 out into a single runner at first with 2 outs.

Just when we all thought that we were about to win the game and take the series, in the top of the 9th we were reintroduced to the 2011 LAA LAA Follies. Abreu and his aging wheels did a fine job to get himself on base and over to third with only 1 out, as a much-needed insurance run. But somebody then decided that "go on contact" would be fun, and a soft grounder to 3B by Trumbo caught  Bobby in no man's land and an easy out in the ensuing rundown. Too easy, it turned out, as Trumbo was thinking about stretching his luck over to 2B while Abreu was in the pickle that he was actually no longer in. This allowed Toronto to catch HIM in a run-down and end the Halo threat with a very rare dual-run-down end-of-at-bat double-play hypenated holiday of stupidity.

This set us all up for Walden in the 9th.

Poll
Blame Of The Game??
Jordan Walden
302 votes
Fernando Rodney
157 votes
Hisanori Takahashi
11 votes
Vernon Wells
48 votes
Jeff Mathis
111 votes

629 votes | Poll has closed

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Fernando Rodney should be the answer to the question

Who was that guy who sucked so bad they DFA’d his ass in August ’11?

Well, come see a fat old man some time!

by Moondoggy on Aug 14, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is absolutely rude and unjustified

Why would you put Fraudney as permanent BOTG ahead of both Vernon Wells and Jeff Mathis? Clearly discriminating against those two, tsk.

by notaznguy on Aug 14, 2011 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I suggest Mathis being the ONLY option for BOTG

for the rest of the season even if he does not start

I take it you don't have the DOV Secret Decoder Ring
You need to drink more ovaltine
-Quad Fin Rider

by DAD OF VLAD on Aug 14, 2011 1:17 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Make this a FanShot

Mike Scioscia has zero credibility to get mad at anyone, or anything. He is the reason Jeff Mathis plays baseball.

by Stirrups on Aug 14, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

If there's anyone who can take the blame off Mathis

even if it’s only for one game, it’s definitely Rodney

by turs12 on Aug 14, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn. Tough loss today.

Been awhile since the Halos lost two series in a row. Turn the page!

"Lose your pants and only good things can happen."-MayhemInTheHood

by Mayheminthehood on Aug 14, 2011 1:18 PM PDT reply actions  

You sound positively reasonable

On the wagon?

Well, come see a fat old man some time!

by Moondoggy on Aug 14, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Today, yes.

"Lose your pants and only good things can happen."-MayhemInTheHood

by Mayheminthehood on Aug 14, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

:(

Say hi to Amy for me

Well, come see a fat old man some time!

by Moondoggy on Aug 14, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I most certainly will, my friend! Same to MrsDoggy

"Lose your pants and only good things can happen."-MayhemInTheHood

by Mayheminthehood on Aug 14, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

She's back in Thailand with the flu

My timing for business trips is superb

But I will

Well, come see a fat old man some time!

by Moondoggy on Aug 14, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

why no scioscia in the polling?

i am sure everyone knew it was a loss once rodney came in.

by daze on Aug 14, 2011 1:18 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Why does someone always say this?

Rev, isn’t it still a rule that we will never have Sosh or the FO in the BOTG polls? It’s got to be a player who failed to execute.

Trust the Deception

by Rally Manatee on Aug 14, 2011 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

That remains the rule.

But the absence of those names merely encouraged folks to come up with an “original” idea.

Mike Scioscia has zero credibility to get mad at anyone, or anything. He is the reason Jeff Mathis plays baseball.

by Stirrups on Aug 14, 2011 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

And Rich Harden is in the process of giving it up to Texas

Already 1-0, and the bases loaded with 1 out for Napoli

by ~MMP~ on Aug 14, 2011 1:20 PM PDT reply actions  

2-0

Well, come see a fat old man some time!

by Moondoggy on Aug 14, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

a note

I too have been following Texas, but who really cares. The Halos Do Not deserve to be in the post season. And if you have any doubt about that, imagine what Boston would do to everyone in the bullpen not named Downs or Walden (and even Walden – depends on the day). I have to say that I’m amazed at how incredibly poor the production has been from the middle of this lineup.

Someone said during the game thread that this team needs an entire overhaul. I tend to agree with the exception of the young guys (PB – JW – MT – TC).

by number 6 on Aug 14, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

agree 100%

it would be ashame to see them embarrassed once again by a superior red sox team. that is not what we angel fans would like to suffer through to end the season.it will be a relief to see this year come to a close on some positive notes. and to anticipate big changes in the offseason.

by hoffy loves the angels on Aug 14, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like all over the big changes, or should I say Big splashes they have made the past off seasons??

by aybars chew on Aug 14, 2011 2:40 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Big Splash

Let’s trade for the worst pitching contract in the game now that we already traded for the worst hitting contract in the game.

Barry Zito in Angel Red!

by YouthofToday on Aug 14, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Barry would look good in Angel red, and as an up side, if he stinks at least he can surf more often

by aybars chew on Aug 14, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, just a little. I wouldn’t want to see Barry Zito chucking peanuts in the stands let alone pitch for our team

by aybars chew on Aug 14, 2011 5:00 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Hula Dula the Domino Rula!!!!!

"Talent does what it can; genius does what it must." ~ Edward G. Bulwer-Lytton

Angels' 2011 W-L record with the alternate red jersey: 14-10 (Home: 6-5 | Road: 7-6 || Day: 6-4 | Night: 7-7)

by blast21dave on Aug 14, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

My camera had more camera time than I did.

"Talent does what it can; genius does what it must." ~ Edward G. Bulwer-Lytton

Angels' 2011 W-L record with the alternate red jersey: 14-10 (Home: 6-5 | Road: 7-6 || Day: 6-4 | Night: 7-7)

by blast21dave on Aug 14, 2011 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

two things...

Can someone tell me what BOTG means as I can’t find meaning on the net.
Second, I know I risk ruffling some feathers here as many won’t agree with me, but it’s my personal opinion that Tony Reagins is Not a very good GM at all (LOL).

by number 6 on Aug 14, 2011 1:28 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Blame of the Game

Now that Lackey has turned to the enemy lets kick his ass

by Angelsrthebest101 on Aug 14, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Write your own jokes?

Well, come see a fat old man some time!

by Moondoggy on Aug 14, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

Used to live for 12 years in the UK and I think some of their irony rubbed off on me. Unfortunately far less clever than the Brits, but at least I try :-)

Anything to ease the pain of a team that seems to be turning in circles

by number 6 on Aug 14, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Twelve years in the UK?

I’d open a vein

Well, come see a fat old man some time!

by Moondoggy on Aug 14, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey

That’s rough Moondoggy. It’s a great place.

by number 6 on Aug 14, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

The food is to die for

Well, come see a fat old man some time!

by Moondoggy on Aug 14, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry dude. You clearly are thinking of how it WAS. The quality of dining there has improved dramatically over the last 15 years. But you’re very welcome to see it as you wish. No problem for me.

by number 6 on Aug 14, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Fish and Chips and Indian Food"

that’s the answer i got from several Britons on various occasions when asking “what is good British food?”

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Aug 14, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Couldn't agree more. But that's about the only kind of dishes they master.

I'll like to dedicate this signature box to SB Nation for blocking my previous account. So yea.. #%!€ you SBN.
Kind regards,
- Chris

by DanishThunder on Aug 14, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reagins..

It’s not funny that Reagins is an atrocious GM — it’s maddening. Napoli with a bases loaded walk. Scioscia would bench him for a month for this egregious sin and Hatcher would run out to 1B and personally berate Naps for taking a walk.

by YouthofToday on Aug 14, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I KNOW

I know it’s not funny!! It’s SOO frustrating. I mean, you don’t get Carl Crawford, so it’s like ‘I have a great idea…. let’s get this guy who used to be pretty good…… and he has a contract that’s a steal…. we get him for four years and it’ll only cost us $86M so we might not be able to resign Weaver… but heck…. that’s ok.
Yep, I agree is Not a good GM. How Sosh or Arte doesn’t see this is rather beyond me.

by number 6 on Aug 14, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sosh

Has more power than Reagins IMO. Arte needs to see the light. Perhaps we can convince somebody to go all Inception on Arte?

by YouthofToday on Aug 14, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think someone already did on Sosh, its the only logical explanation for playing mathis….

by aybars chew on Aug 14, 2011 5:02 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

You *are* going to give us ... information

If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?

by red floyd on Aug 14, 2011 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd like to use my August F bomb to say...

FUCK all the dumb SHIT Soth likes to do. Which continues to cost us baseball games.

Baseball is a funny game...

by Halosfan777 on Aug 14, 2011 1:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Walden is the closer. And he didn't close it.

That paved the way to the horror of seeing Rodney stroll out there later on.

Of course, using that yardstick, it can be said that TR and Soth paved the way to the whole thing by putting together much of this crap sandwich in the lineup in the first place.

by Hoppity Hooper on Aug 14, 2011 1:33 PM PDT reply actions  

I blame Wells who went 1 for 11 in the series.

A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.

by angelslogic on Aug 14, 2011 1:34 PM PDT reply actions  

And got boo'd for the one

Well, come see a fat old man some time!

by Moondoggy on Aug 14, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah but

What a great one. A HR on his first appearance back in Toronto…..

LOL. Nope ….. on a rethink …… NOT LOL.

by number 6 on Aug 14, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha! I predicted 1-for-13! He exceeded my expectations!

Good job, Big Splash! I will give you a one-man standing O when you return to Anaheim!

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Aug 14, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

i blame torii

For doing well recently. We seem to win when he sucks

Are you sure he was safe? It looked like an out to the entire statium. Well bad call Blue.

by Alavel on Aug 14, 2011 1:41 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

This game is a tidy summary of why I hope we don't make the playoffs...

…let’s see;
1) Great starting pitching? Check.
2) Weak offense? Check.
3) Crappy bullpen? Check…(Downs mostly exempt).

If we somehow eke past Texas, I think we’d be embarrassed in the playoffs. I could not watch if we somehow ended up matched against the Red Sux one more time.

by sothball on Aug 14, 2011 1:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Couldn't agree with you more

It’s not exactly as if they deserve to be in the playoffs either. Three excellent starting pitchers…. two guys who’ve done well offensively (Callaspo and Trumbo) and that’s really about it. Howie’s BA dropping lately.
Oh, and then Scott Downs and perhaps Walden… though shaky lately.

So that makes, what…. six guys? Geez, Boston and the Yankees are both strong all the way thru and then have extra guys that produce too. Like Nunez and Chavez on NYY. Don’t know Boston lineup well enough to give specifics. But six guys bringing it on a 25 man roster. Ummm. I don’t think that’s gonna get you very far at all – be it regular season or playoffs.

by number 6 on Aug 14, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Boston's line-up is tough;

Ellsbury, Pedroia, Gonzales, Ortiz, Youkilis, Drew… and so on.

The first 3 above are having MVP-caliber seasons. Plus, they take lots of pitches and wear down pitchers. They’d be tough to beat even if we had a rock-solid bullpen.

I shudder at the thought of needing 3-4 innings of relief from Rodney, Takakashi, Thompson, Bell, Piniero, etc.

by sothball on Aug 14, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ya but, our 3 great pitchers could carry us in the playoffs.

If we get to the playoffs, and have Weaver, Haren, and Santana still pitching like they have been of late, we could easily get through round 1, regardless of how pathetic our offense is.

Trust the Deception

by Rally Manatee on Aug 14, 2011 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Torii

for not getting Abreu to third in the ninth. Howie for 0 production. Aybar for not knowing how bunt after umpteen years as a pro. Scioscia for making the same personnel decesions game after game. Reagins for putting together the personnel. The contact play. Howie for 0 production. Hatcher for our hitting philosophy, or lack of one. These guys need to play or get the “F” out.

by bighig on Aug 14, 2011 1:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Managerial moves...

I have never seen a manger be so stubborn as Mike S. is. It’s starting to get a little bit embarrasing. Rodney, Mathis, Branyan, and Piniero need to be DFA’d. Wells, Izturis, and Abreu need to be benched. Romine needs to be shipped to A ball. Tony Reagins needs to be fired. End rant.

OHHHHH dream weavehh

by halosfan4ever on Aug 14, 2011 1:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah Abreu who went 2 for 4 with 2 stolen bases should be benched...

the guy who’s 9th inning home run got us one of our only two wins on this road trip needs to be benched? Hey Abreu’s been in a slump but so has everyone else on the team. There is no need to single him out. He will come out of it and we need him if we are going to have a chance of getting into the playoffs.

by kbrown2225 on Aug 14, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

the guy who hits .250 with zero power. Get over it he’s DONE.

OHHHHH dream weavehh

by halosfan4ever on Aug 14, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

He also is tied with Callaspo for highest OBP on the team.

It’s sad that Callaspo is currently the best hitter on this team.

WE NEED CONGER NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by OCangels on Aug 14, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

with the exception of the 1st week of the season,

this whole team has been in an offensive slump for the season! there are some days when one or two guys hit well for a while, but rarely do they all perform at the same time and definately not with anything resembling consistent.

by hoffy loves the angels on Aug 14, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ease up.

No manager will ever DFA four players at a time. Yes, there are a lot of sucky players on our team, but who would take their place?

Trust the Deception

by Rally Manatee on Aug 14, 2011 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Too bad I'm all out of F bombs...

This team just keeps playing with my emotions.

"Every time I think I’m out, they pull me back in" -George Costanza

by Howie's Batting Title on Aug 14, 2011 1:52 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

A little premature to say "season over"

But Season Over

"Its like when i’m right…i’m right… and when i’m wrong…i could have been right..so i’m still right cause i could have been wrong"-Chevy Clarke's Twitter

by ryanfea on Aug 14, 2011 1:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Sorry, Walden gets the blame

As much as I despise Rodney’s inability to last more than a third of an inning, Walden didn’t do his job to close out the game. He’s blown practically a third of his saves, yet Sosh still insists on trotting him out there every save situation. I’m stoked about his future as a closer, but we can’t sit down and let him blow a third of his save opportunities. His mechanics look all messed up – give him a rest, Sosh.

Mark Trumbo: 2011 Rookie of the Year

by nicolasville on Aug 14, 2011 1:55 PM PDT reply actions  

The only possible salvation...

…switch Downs and Walden. That MIGHT work, but I doubt it.

Rojas and Gubi actually pointed out that Walden’s slider doesn’t come close to the zone. Batters are looking dead red.

by sothball on Aug 14, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought about Downs

He’d probably be steadier than Walden, even if he’s not a “real” closer. But at this point, Walden isn’t much of a closer either. Right now, I think i’d rather have Downs pitch the ninth – his 1.36 ERA might rise a little, but we’d probably avoid more games like this one. Hey, and wasn’t Takahashi the closer for the Mets last year when Frankie went down?

Mark Trumbo: 2011 Rookie of the Year

by nicolasville on Aug 14, 2011 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice roller coaster ride! Friday night we were headed to the freakin' World Series ...

today we are thinking about draft order. I am going to call it a “Bipolar Coaster.”

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Aug 14, 2011 1:58 PM PDT reply actions  

A new attraction at 6 Flags...

…“guaranteed to leave you more queasy than your meds…if you’re crazy enough to try it”.

by sothball on Aug 14, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

The great part of being a sports fan

"Its like when i’m right…i’m right… and when i’m wrong…i could have been right..so i’m still right cause i could have been wrong"-Chevy Clarke's Twitter

by ryanfea on Aug 14, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even the broadcasters

are getting tired of this. You can totally hear it in Rojas’ voice, as well on the radio side with Terry Smith. Granted these guys have to travel with the team, but I can hear the sarcasm in their voices as they describe the Angels going down in order for the 3rd time in a row. Or the opposing pithcer only threw 9 pitches last inning.

by bighig on Aug 14, 2011 2:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Hope everyone is ready to get slapped out of contention by Texas.

The “Angels in the Outfield” crowd will still flap their wings (zomg we have the greatest 1-3 SP in all of baseball!! UNDEFEATABLE), but its easy to see how pathetic this Angels team is, and, equally how impressive they have been over-performing.

I guess 140 millon can’t get you much (in terms of baseball players). Fernando continues to get starts, Mathis is still the number 1 catching option… Andrew Fucking Romine is holding a roster spot.

This club has bigger problems than Walden’s inability to throw a slider.

Burn this front office to the ground, fire the staff that holds on to these antiquated philosophies.

Or just bury your head in the ground and flap your arms.

What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.

by clover_black on Aug 14, 2011 2:29 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Here you go again...

you hoping Texas sweeps us again like you hoped for last time?

"Keep pushing for us." Ervin Santana after NO-HITTER (July 27, 2011)

by thebigtizzle on Aug 14, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hope everyone... I hope...

Same difference, amirite?

Either way, something GOOD can come out of this team being eliminated from the post-season. Have faith ;)

What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.

by clover_black on Aug 14, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

grrr...

"Keep pushing for us." Ervin Santana after NO-HITTER (July 27, 2011)

by thebigtizzle on Aug 15, 2011 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

sosh will probably make that come true, so, i wont bother correcting myself.

What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.

by clover_black on Aug 14, 2011 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think I am ready for it all to be over.

I was hoping that we could keep it close through august and then make a move that last series in Anaheim. We will be back 4 on Monday and with two rookie pitchers going against Texas I think we will be back 5 or 6 my Thursday.

I am looking forward to the peace of mind that comes when we have been resigned to our fate.

by UCIHalo on Aug 14, 2011 2:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Totally with you.

It’s been a surprise that we’ve contended this long as it is. The starting pitching has been so good, they’ve kept us close all season. But I feel like we’ll be out of it by the end of August.

Trust the Deception

by Rally Manatee on Aug 14, 2011 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can we be sellers now?

Who wants some of this “talent” we have because we need some prospects I tell you what.

WE NEED CONGER NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by OCangels on Aug 14, 2011 2:36 PM PDT reply actions  

And we have nothing to sell

"Its like when i’m right…i’m right… and when i’m wrong…i could have been right..so i’m still right cause i could have been wrong"-Chevy Clarke's Twitter

by ryanfea on Aug 14, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

our farm?

- reagens

"If somebody had their life on the line, and they’ve got their options on who they want to save their life — tell me who you’re going to pick? You’re going to look at the stats first?" - Kobe Bryant

by desecrator09 on Aug 14, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

i bet Reagens still believes

and will trade for Aramis Ramirez

"If somebody had their life on the line, and they’ve got their options on who they want to save their life — tell me who you’re going to pick? You’re going to look at the stats first?" - Kobe Bryant

by desecrator09 on Aug 14, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

If we sold pineiro, that would have been one of the greatest moves ever.

… i really didn’t expect him to forgot how to throw a baseball though.

What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.

by clover_black on Aug 14, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

sell what? everything we need to get rid of has been dumped by someone else.

who in their right mind would take abreu,hunter,mathis,rodney,wells,branyan,romine,willets,pinero,and takahashi. we would have to pay someone to take this garbage out.

by hoffy loves the angels on Aug 14, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

That honor was once held by Anthopolous...

…Reagins inherited the title with the Wells/Rivera/Napoli trade.

by sothball on Aug 14, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Wells contract was signed by J.P Riciardi not Anthopolous

"Its like when i’m right…i’m right… and when i’m wrong…i could have been right..so i’m still right cause i could have been wrong"-Chevy Clarke's Twitter

by ryanfea on Aug 14, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anthopolous has got to be some kind of genius

Before Wells, Anthopolous fobbed off Alex Rios poisonous contract on another GM almost as stupid as Tony.

All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine.

by Quad Fin Rider on Aug 14, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep, and he now went from Vernon Wells butchering up CF to Colby Rasmus in less than a year.

Obviously Napoli for Francisco hasn’t worked, but he must be awfully convincing. Or a wizard.

by ~MMP~ on Aug 14, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

during the offseason arte should

start at the top and work his way down. i would welcome a complete revamp of the team and management

by hoffy loves the angels on Aug 14, 2011 2:44 PM PDT reply actions  

AA giving up frank francisco for napoli was a shitty move.

much props for dumping the wells contract, but damn, …

Naps must have done something in his former life to be so undervalued.

What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.

by clover_black on Aug 14, 2011 2:45 PM PDT reply actions  

could you imagine the first half Napoli would've posted

if he knew what pitches were coming his way at home? he’d have even better stats than he does right now, which is saying something.

"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some douche named DFA from AN

by 2pintsofbooze on Aug 14, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well After 2012 a lot of this mess will be gone in free agency

HK 47
Aybar
Izturis
Willits
Weaver
Takahashi
Mathis (Will probably get a 10 year extension)
Hunter
Abreu
Santana & Haren have team options that may or may not be used

Though if TR is not gone, I fear how these guys will be replaced.

"Its like when i’m right…i’m right… and when i’m wrong…i could have been right..so i’m still right cause i could have been wrong"-Chevy Clarke's Twitter

by ryanfea on Aug 14, 2011 2:47 PM PDT reply actions  

With Pinhead, Rodney & Branyan gone after 2011

"Its like when i’m right…i’m right… and when i’m wrong…i could have been right..so i’m still right cause i could have been wrong"-Chevy Clarke's Twitter

by ryanfea on Aug 14, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wells may be gone too since his contract allows him to opt out after this season

Which would bring me more joy than silently farting in a crowded elevator, but it ain’t gonna happen

All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine.

by Quad Fin Rider on Aug 14, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

fixed

answer to thousands multi-millions of prayers

by eyespy on Aug 14, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha ha ha

That would be all kinds of awesome, too bad that odds of that is zero.

"Its like when i’m right…i’m right… and when i’m wrong…i could have been right..so i’m still right cause i could have been wrong"-Chevy Clarke's Twitter

by ryanfea on Aug 14, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

what if he keeps some of this trash

with the exception of weaver,aybar,snatana and haren. all this crap could go. izturis is the only name on your list with trade value after these guys.

by hoffy loves the angels on Aug 14, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Howie has trade value

Better trade value than Izzy

WE NEED CONGER NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by OCangels on Aug 14, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

not in my opinion

you have a right to your opinion and i have mine. even if his stats are better, i would value izzy over howie because i think kendricks is done. he will play longer, that is a fact. but he is pretty much on the downside of a career that didn’t blossom. and izzy can still turn out to be a better player over time.

by hoffy loves the angels on Aug 14, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you

2B/SS are hardly the least of the team’s problems. It’s just the fact that they carry about 5 of them and at least 3 are playing every game.

by turs12 on Aug 14, 2011 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've been saying we need to trade Howie for the past 4 months

then we started contending and I knew that would never happen

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by 2pintsofbooze on Aug 14, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it depends on how Chatwood and Richards develop

If they become solid pitchers then I bet Santana is let go after 2012. I do think that the Angels eventually get Weaver extended for another 5 or 6 years.

"Its like when i’m right…i’m right… and when i’m wrong…i could have been right..so i’m still right cause i could have been wrong"-Chevy Clarke's Twitter

by ryanfea on Aug 14, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I sure hope so

"Its like when i’m right…i’m right… and when i’m wrong…i could have been right..so i’m still right cause i could have been wrong"-Chevy Clarke's Twitter

by ryanfea on Aug 14, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

IF morales comes back next season

i would like to see trumbo,bourjos and trout in the outfield and if they keep howie use him as a 4th outfielder. dump the old guys and use izzy and aybar combo with callaspo/newguy at third.

by hoffy loves the angels on Aug 14, 2011 3:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Torii, Abreu & Wells are undumpable because of their contracts

"Its like when i’m right…i’m right… and when i’m wrong…i could have been right..so i’m still right cause i could have been wrong"-Chevy Clarke's Twitter

by ryanfea on Aug 14, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's so depressing.

I could stand to tolerate ONE of them for another season, probably Hunter, but to have to keep all three of them is so depressing.

Trust the Deception

by Rally Manatee on Aug 14, 2011 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Abreu is probably tradable if the Angels eat a good portion of the contract

Torii would be tough to trade, and I can’t see the Angels wanting to do so anyways.

Wells is completely immovable unless Reagins gets another GM job though.

by ~MMP~ on Aug 14, 2011 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

do what they did to mathews jr.

just refuse to play them, they will ask to leave

by hoffy loves the angels on Aug 14, 2011 3:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Reagins blunders...

…could have signed Valverde. Signed Rodney instead.

Could have offered a contract to Beltre. Instead, focused on Crawford, got spurned, and then yanked the Wells contract anchor right out of Anthoupolos’s hands. While also giving away Rivera and Napoli.

NO EXCUSES. Tony F’ed up.

by sothball on Aug 14, 2011 3:12 PM PDT reply actions  

alright, i know we have an anemic offense

but what is this bullshit of “i hope we don’t get into the playoffs?” this is the best starting staff we have had and pitching rules october. Who’s to say our starters dont give us momentum and the offense kicks in. and this should be a fanshot, sorry

Runs. Can I have some runs please. Thanks

by AngelsBaseball on Aug 14, 2011 3:18 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

the only way we have a chance

is if texas falters to the point of a 4or5 game losing steak, you are right about the pitching. but our offense has kicked it into high gear, and this is it.

by hoffy loves the angels on Aug 14, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even if Texas loses today

We’re still gonna be 3 back with going into tomorrow for the 4 gamer. Anything less than 3-1 us is not gonna be good for us and I’m not really liking our odds. Then again, stranger things have happened

by The_Big_Halo on Aug 14, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are mostly correct that pitching rules October.

So what happens after Haren, Santana, and Weaver are pulled from the game? Today’s a great example of what happens;
 - Downs is solid.
 - Walden is shaky.
 - Ever other RP isn’t the least bit reliable.

I dread facing Boston in a playoff series. I think we’d be totally embarrassed. I really don’t want to see that happen again. And I think we level of embarrassment would be only slightly less against Detroit or New York.

by sothball on Aug 14, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

pitching change in texas

oakland making a run in the 6th, 6to4 texas. but oakland is fighting. 1out 1st and 3rd

by hoffy loves the angels on Aug 14, 2011 3:30 PM PDT reply actions  

A's are pathetic

We are down 4 games in the West. The west is the Rangers to lose

"Its like when i’m right…i’m right… and when i’m wrong…i could have been right..so i’m still right cause i could have been wrong"-Chevy Clarke's Twitter

by ryanfea on Aug 14, 2011 4:42 PM PDT reply actions  

I can't believe I didn't mention him.

Gubi will have a pre-game Dean Chance talk with Rodney, and Fernando won’t throw another ball for the rest of the season.

by ~MMP~ on Aug 14, 2011 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or....

they are about to go into an extremely tough part of their schedule and this is pretty much where most people would put us going into this week. This was a tough week for us and an easy week for them…we can still win the division, we just need to take care of business head-to-head and let Boston and Tampa kick their asses.

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Sorry, but that’s simply not how it works."

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by sctrojan13 on Aug 14, 2011 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll go with Boston's recent of history of beating the Rangers soundly

over the one series this season. Plus if TB can split with the Rangers it will go a long way toward giving us a shot to catch up.

"Some people think they should go to heaven but NOT have to die to get there.
Sorry, but that’s simply not how it works."

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by sctrojan13 on Aug 14, 2011 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ehh you are right, I guess it was a few years ago when the Red Sox were dominating the series

but you really don’t think the Red Sox can beat the Rangers?

"Some people think they should go to heaven but NOT have to die to get there.
Sorry, but that’s simply not how it works."

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by sctrojan13 on Aug 14, 2011 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

of course

of course. it’ll probably be 4-3 for either team

by parlor trix on Aug 14, 2011 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Of course that is the most likely thing

or Boston could win 5 or 6 and Tampa could win 4 or 5. It could also be good to realize that 60% of the Ranger’s games in September are on the road where they are a .500 team

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Sorry, but that’s simply not how it works."

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by sctrojan13 on Aug 14, 2011 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

That theory only works if we take 3 out of 4 from the Rangers

Any less and the lead is insurmountable with so little time left in the season.

"Its like when i’m right…i’m right… and when i’m wrong…i could have been right..so i’m still right cause i could have been wrong"-Chevy Clarke's Twitter

by ryanfea on Aug 14, 2011 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

If we split it is not insurmountable

there was just a 3 game swing in a week, it can happen again

"Some people think they should go to heaven but NOT have to die to get there.
Sorry, but that’s simply not how it works."

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by sctrojan13 on Aug 14, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

So its official

We are 4 games back going into this 4 game series

WE NEED CONGER NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by OCangels on Aug 14, 2011 4:53 PM PDT reply actions  

We have to win 3 out of 4.

Minimum.

"F it, let's pitch." - Ervin Santana

by Chzburger Jones on Aug 14, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

It blows my mind how defeatist everyone is around here

and how little faith there is in the team. You guys make me embarrassed to be an Angels fan.

"Some people think they should go to heaven but NOT have to die to get there.
Sorry, but that’s simply not how it works."

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by sctrojan13 on Aug 14, 2011 5:00 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

We are not acting defeated.

We are just tired of the ineptitude of our front office.

"F it, let's pitch." - Ervin Santana

by Chzburger Jones on Aug 14, 2011 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just look at the stats of our offense

Faith is hard to come by no matter how good Weaver, Haren, Santana and Downs are.

"Its like when i’m right…i’m right… and when i’m wrong…i could have been right..so i’m still right cause i could have been wrong"-Chevy Clarke's Twitter

by ryanfea on Aug 14, 2011 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

No-Hitters would be nice but if

Weaver, Haren and Santana could throw 1-0 CGSO the rest of the way we can win 3 out of every 5. World series here we come.

Just make sure we score that single run somehow every day.

WE NEED CONGER NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by OCangels on Aug 14, 2011 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

get over yourself

"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some douche named DFA from AN

by 2pintsofbooze on Aug 14, 2011 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Have you been watching them play?

Its not that hard to see why.

I’m really surprised we have the record we do have.

The offense hasn’t clicked all season… just spurts up and down the lineup. No consistency whatsoever. Blowpen shows up every other game. Worst catching platoon in the league in terms of offense. The Rangers are 2nd in BA and 3rd in runs in MLB. Its not hard to see why we are feeling defeated.

WE NEED CONGER NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by OCangels on Aug 14, 2011 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know exactly why everyone is bitching

and I am not saying that dealing with this FO isn’t frustrating as hell but have some belief in your team damn. If you only believe in your team when the odds are on your side then you are on hell of a shitty fan.

We have the scheduling advantage down the stretch and we play them 7 times and the offense still hasn’t clicked on all cylinders yet we are still in it. Will the Rangers probably win? Of course. But I prefer to focus on the possibility of this team and what it can be.

"Some people think they should go to heaven but NOT have to die to get there.
Sorry, but that’s simply not how it works."

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by sctrojan13 on Aug 14, 2011 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

A shitty fan

Would point out that there are 10 games yet to be played with Texas.

"NO Trout for you." -- Tony Reagins, 5/23/11

by ChargerBill on Aug 14, 2011 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.

by clover_black on Aug 14, 2011 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Spoonful in mono is better.

"Ballplayers play baseball. Hrrmmmff." -Jose Mota

by Fred Fredrix on Aug 15, 2011 7:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

"the offense still hasn’t clicked on all cylinders yet"

I have a problem with using this line in mid-August.

We’re this late into the season, and we haven’t seen “the offense clicking on all cylinders” for more than a couple games at a time.

At what point do we stop waiting for some offensive outburst, and just accept that the offense is what it is?

by ~MMP~ on Aug 14, 2011 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

There is no question it is a mediocre offense

and it clicking on all cylinders isn’t something likely but if we can get Torii to continue his August play and Aybar and Howie to start playing again then there is something pretty good there.

Clicking on all cylinders is not a given but if it does happen then we will almost certainly win the division.

"Some people think they should go to heaven but NOT have to die to get there.
Sorry, but that’s simply not how it works."

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by sctrojan13 on Aug 14, 2011 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

What makes you say that? Texas' mediocre pitching?

Texas has been pitching pretty well all year.

My response to your letter of February 19, 1976, is - kiss my ass.
Sincerely,
Bill Baxley, Attorney General

by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Aug 14, 2011 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

You right. They are who they are.

Even worse, they are who we thought they were.
Except for Del Taco Tony.

My response to your letter of February 19, 1976, is - kiss my ass.
Sincerely,
Bill Baxley, Attorney General

by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Aug 14, 2011 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here's something else that irritating...

…San Diego (managed by a former Angel coach that I’d hope would be on an "off the record conversational basis with Scioscia) trades;
 - Adrian Gonzalez to Boston (of all teams, why Boston?).
 - Trade Mike Adams to our main competitor.

I’d love to know if the front office even knew these moves were imminent. If they didn’t they should have. And if they had known, they should have had tried made an offer for Gonzalez (maybe they did but couldn’t come anywhere close the what Boston offered), and definitely should have tried to keep Adams from becoming a Ranger…by making a better offer!

Instead Reagins made possibly the worst trade in franchise history this past Winter, and then made no moves before this year’s trade deadline. While watching Boston and Texas get better. It’s irritating and frustrating…

by sothball on Aug 14, 2011 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gonzalez trade

I think San Diego’s new GM Jed Hoyer’s youth (37) and the fact that he’s a former Red Sox Assistant General Manager had a lot to do with it. If the Padres gig doesn’t pan out, there’s probably a ton of goodwill in Boston for him to come back in another capacity.

All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine.

by Quad Fin Rider on Aug 14, 2011 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yet if the closer closes...

none of the testicleless jibber jabber is warranted. three outs where this team had all but secured a win and we’d all be gearing up for the series of the year. That’s where sc is right…one inning and the whole outlook changes. Even if you’re right about the sytematics, the defeatism is real and still a tad premature.

Sign me up in the hardest of times to believe that we’ll win this series and be right back in it. You’re either a scrambling QB or a pocket QB. I aint running…

"Keep pushing for us." Ervin Santana after NO-HITTER (July 27, 2011)

by thebigtizzle on Aug 15, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

There are some times when having doubts about the current course of action

 is the smart thing to do.

Mike Scioscia has zero credibility to get mad at anyone, or anything. He is the reason Jeff Mathis plays baseball.

by Stirrups on Aug 14, 2011 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Good Morning Jerusalem?

I had no idea that they canceled it.

My response to your letter of February 19, 1976, is - kiss my ass.
Sincerely,
Bill Baxley, Attorney General

by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Aug 14, 2011 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I listened to the game on XM while driving back from NY this afternoon

The outcome was so predictable. The Jays announcers were excited when Rodney and Hawk came in. The base running gaffs, the inability to make the big pitches when it counted, and the lack of killer instinct again doomed the team.

I’ll say it again: the 2011 version of the Angels are a tease. They will win the “must win” games, and lose the “should win” games. They will string together enough wins to make the die-hard fan believe there’s still a chance for a pennant, but will inevitably come up short. I’ve wanted to believe this team had the magic, but to have magic there has to be some underlying element of talent and/or ability. The SP is definitely Panther, but that’s all there is.

by mustard_man on Aug 14, 2011 5:56 PM PDT reply actions  

That's a good summary.

This is a good team, definitely better than last year. It’s not a playoff team. They may end up like 87-75. Good, but not great.

by sothball on Aug 14, 2011 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who wants to bet that TR gives 80 Million to Jimmy Rollins for some reason this offseason

"Its like when i’m right…i’m right… and when i’m wrong…i could have been right..so i’m still right cause i could have been wrong"-Chevy Clarke's Twitter

by ryanfea on Aug 14, 2011 6:22 PM PDT reply actions  

I just shuddred

at the thought of that.

OHHHHH dream weavehh

by halosfan4ever on Aug 14, 2011 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

So you don't think we'd end the tiny slap hitting middle infielder trend

To satisfy our expensive, declining, 30 something veteran trent?

"Its like when i’m right…i’m right… and when i’m wrong…i could have been right..so i’m still right cause i could have been wrong"-Chevy Clarke's Twitter

by ryanfea on Aug 14, 2011 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

nooooooooooooooooooooooooo

"If somebody had their life on the line, and they’ve got their options on who they want to save their life — tell me who you’re going to pick? You’re going to look at the stats first?" - Kobe Bryant

by desecrator09 on Aug 14, 2011 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

The offense has no consistency because the lineup has no consistency.

Pick your starting infield, Sosh. The other guy is sheesh out of luck. Howie was doing fine until he was sat down 2 or 3 games a week. Same with Collapso. One of the 4 has to sit, you can’t rotate them around like musical chairs and expect any of them to hit the ball. Up until this year I would have given Izzy one of those spots if healthy but he’s not having that good of a year after his hot start and at this point I think he’s the guy that has to sit out 5 games a week. Howie doesn’t need a freakin’ rest twice a week, and we need Aybar’s glove. It’s almost as if the Sloth thinks he’ll catch lightning in a bottle one day with a magical lineup combination if he could only find the right one. His magical lineup only gets one chance, and if it fails in one game, he changes it again. How about using the same lineup every goddam game and see if that works? Or is that too easy? Gee, this guy got two hits yesterday, I think I’ll leave him out of the lineup today. Pathetic. /rant

"Ballplayers play baseball. Hrrmmmff." -Jose Mota

by Fred Fredrix on Aug 14, 2011 6:34 PM PDT reply actions  

This has always irritated me but

it’s always been Soshball.

Trust the Deception

by Rally Manatee on Aug 14, 2011 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think we are in some big trouble.

This could be the beginning of the end. I honestly think we are overachievers this year, our offense is a joke. Watching Mike Napoli smack the ball all over the field is sickening. We could have easily held onto him, and picked up someone like Johnny Damon, at a fraction of the cost over that fat loser Vernon Wells.

I've got nothing.

by bc56274 on Aug 14, 2011 6:35 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm conflicted

It will suck if Texas puts us out of it this week and I will never hope the Angels lose. But Texas has a much better chance of beating Boston in October and I hate those assholes almost as much as I love the Angels. Simply put, if we can’t win it all I want to make sure Boston does not either.

I would rather watch Texas beat Boston in the playoffs than watch the Angels lose to those pompous jackwads.

by JeffJoiner on Aug 14, 2011 7:47 PM PDT reply actions  

I still don't get why

Sosh didn’t push Haren back a day and start him vs Texas. He said it wasn’t at the point where he thought that was necessary. Well, 4 back in a 4 game series I’d say every game against them is must win.

by turs12 on Aug 14, 2011 7:57 PM PDT reply actions  

I wanted to vote for Trumbo.

Bobby had to go, as Soth had called for the contact play. All Trumbo had to do was hit a freaking fly ball.
And then that baserunning idiocy. What was that — a 5-2-5-4-3-4 DP?

If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?

by red floyd on Aug 14, 2011 8:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Tough to give it to Trumbo, even in that situation.

Based on past accomplishments and his rookie status, I say this guy is exempt for the rest of the year.

Meanwhile… Vernon Wells is jealous that Jeff Mathis has the lowest BA on the team, and is currently planning on making a go at that accomplishment.

What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.

by clover_black on Aug 14, 2011 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

This

All the way. Mark Trumbo is the only thing that looks like a major league hitter. This rookie is the only legitimate power threat in the line up. He is pardoned of just about any future mistakes.

Tim Salmon: The once and future Kingfish.

by Teixeira Who? on Aug 14, 2011 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree

I can’t stand the contact play! This has been a frustrating season; however, on occasion, it has been enjoyable! Bring on the Rangers!

Gimme a cigarette

by tmat on Aug 14, 2011 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ok here's what we do.

1. Fire Tony
2. Get a new GM
3. New GM gets a new manager.
4. New GM DFA’s Mathis
5. New GM DFA’s Vernon
6. New GM DFA’s Rodney
7. New GM pays our draft picks what they need to get signed.
8. New GM calls up Hank Conger and sees what he can do. Wilson and him do a lefty/righty platoon
9. New GM calls up Jeremy Moore to replace Vernon and plays him against righties, Howie can play LF against lefties.
10. New GM calls up Bulger to replace Rodney.
11. New manager tells Downs and Walden he is going to used them based on in game situations instead of just facing whoever is up in the 8th and 9th inning.
12. New manager reminds ALL Angels of the Cardinal Sins of baseball and tells them what stupid baserunners they are.
13. New manager NEVER calls up top prospect in all of baseball only to have him sit on the bench.

I’m sure there is more that needs to get done, but I’m tired. That’s a good start though Arte, lets see it happen.

Jim Bowden on Tony Reagins.

Style: Authoritative, brilliant baseball mind who works well in the trifecta with owner Arte Moreno and manager Mike Scioscia. Builds teams on pitching and defense up the middle. Active at trade deadlines, will trade prospects and has the resources to acquire All-Stars

by MH252525 on Aug 14, 2011 11:14 PM PDT reply actions  

You forgot a few.

14. New GM calls MH252525 to see what move to make next.
15. New GM realizes that he is calling himself, and hangs up the telephone.
16. New GM returns to the loving embrace known as the bong.

My response to your letter of February 19, 1976, is - kiss my ass.
Sincerely,
Bill Baxley, Attorney General

by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Aug 14, 2011 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

bong don't ever tell nobody you are fat or wrong

"Talent does what it can; genius does what it must." ~ Edward G. Bulwer-Lytton

Angels' 2011 W-L record with the alternate red jersey: 14-10 (Home: 6-5 | Road: 7-6 || Day: 6-4 | Night: 7-7)

by blast21dave on Aug 14, 2011 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

The next series will decide

Yeah, the Angels have lost some frustrating games. Jordan Walden has been inconsistent. Between him and FRaudney, the Angels have gone from 5 up on Texas to 4 down (or thereabouts). The offense is lacking.

But this next series with Texas will say a lot about where the Angels go from here. If they take 3 games, they’re still in it. Four and it’s on. Two and it’s unlikely, and anything less and it’s over. But that’s why the Angels play the Rangers 10 times over the next six weeks. To decide the division. The Rangers just finished beating up on some jokes while the Angels started rooks in New York and against a Toronto team that would be in the playoff hunt in any non-East division.

And upgrades are all about relative value. There isn’t much more value to be had at 2B over Howard Kendrick. Callaspo has been quite good, really, and there aren’t any other players at the position worth “upgrading” to. It’s the corner outfield, especially left, and catcher, where the Angels have big positional downgrades that are in serious need of overhaul.

Mark Trumbo has been a pleasant surprise, but in an age where we have 10 great 1B in the game, a guy who hits .260 with 25-30 homers and never walks is merely average. I love the dude, but let’s not fool ourselves with what he is. Kendrys Morales hitting .290 with 30 home runs and the occasional BB is a good 1B. Trumbo is holding it down around average, but not much better.

I will be interested to see what the Angels do this offseason regardless of performance this year. I honestly hope the answer is “a starting pitcher, maybe, and nothing else”, because these blaoted contracts have got to go.

And calling Abreu “done” is such a joke. He is not a great player anymore, no, but he still has the best eye on the team. “Done” is what the Angels are hitting at catcher.

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart - Always an Angel

by Kernel on Aug 15, 2011 5:07 AM PDT reply actions  

This should definitely

be a fanshot.

Agreed on all points you made above Kernel. Winning the series just doesn’t seem likely as we have rookies going on back to back nights while hoping for no bad surprises from Santana and Weaver (again).

"Talent does what it can; genius does what it must." ~ Edward G. Bulwer-Lytton

Angels 2011 W-L record with the alternate red jersey: 14-10

by blast21dave on Aug 15, 2011 6:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

the blue jays wouldn't be in the playoff race

in any division. they have decent offense and a decent rotation, but their defense and bullpen are fucking horrendous.

by parlor trix on Aug 15, 2011 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

The differences

are the W-L records against Oakland, Kansas City, and Boston for Texas and the Halos.

by mustard_man on Aug 15, 2011 6:58 AM PDT reply actions  

we suck

we don’t deserve to be in the playoffs. i am already looking forward to 2015 when VW’s contract is over.

o_O

by dan73962 on Aug 15, 2011 8:23 AM PDT reply actions  

Yikes.

The Angels need to win at least 3 of 4 against the Rangers, yet rookie Garrett Richards starts Monday’s game and Chatwood will pitch one of the other games. This does not bode well for taking 3 out of 4.

A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.

by angelslogic on Aug 15, 2011 8:46 AM PDT reply actions  

Richards will be at home

In a slight pitcher’s park, with friendly fans, against an offense that isn’t qutie as good as the Bombers’. Texas still has a potent lineup, sure, but I have high hopes for Richards’ next start. Less jitters, less pressure, just go out there and pitch.

I just hope Weaver snaps back.

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart - Always an Angel

by Kernel on Aug 15, 2011 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

poor Richards

First two ML starts: at bandbox Yankee Stadium (RF bleachers 215 feet from home plate), and then home vs. Texas. Geeze.

The refiner’s fire for him.

More Howie please...

by hk47 on Aug 15, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'll stand by my oath to support and believe in my team.

No matter how hard times are, this season isn’t over. When it’s done, it’s done…til then I’m a rider. You watch and see what my boys do…just watch.

"Keep pushing for us." Ervin Santana after NO-HITTER (July 27, 2011)

by thebigtizzle on Aug 15, 2011 11:18 AM PDT reply actions  

Woah there, let's not get carried away.

“Reagins for baseball Executive of the Year, Mathis for consensus Gold Glove, Lyle Spencer for Nobel Peace Prize and Pulitzer all wrapped into one.”

by ~MMP~ on Aug 15, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Let's not forget

Wells for MVP

Vernon Wells / #10 / LAA / LF 2011-2014
2011 - $23M
2012 - $21M
2013 - $21M
2014 - $21M

by dan73962 on Aug 15, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

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