HALOLINKS: Angels Shuffling, Rangers Melting, Tigers Still Bitching
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Moving Up Weaver and Santana: The Math
Sam Miller does a lot of math and comes up with the conclusion that what Mike Scioscia is planning on doing with the rotation this weekend is...
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Top Ten Things the Angels Can Do With All the Money They Saved On Jered Weaver's Contract Extension
Monkey W/ a Halo is more fact than funny on this good list.
Rangers Report:
As Innings Pile Up, Rangers Keep Watchful Eye
Harrison, Ogando and Holland head into unknown territory as far as innings pitched, and there are concerns how they're handling the workload in their first full seasons as starters.
Talk about it MORE Texas media, get into their heads, wear them out as they sit there listening to your questions. HA!
Around the Minors:
Angels’ Exec in Town to Assess Kernels
Abe Flores shows up to Cedar Rapids to open a can of WhoopAss!
EX-Angels Headlines:
Where Are You Chone Figgins?
True Grich looks at the lost soul of Desmond DeChone in light of the Weaver Loyalty Oath.
Joe Maddon Calls Detroit Tigers' Barking Over Sean Rodriguez's Hustle 'INSANE'
Two ex-Angels, Maddon and S-Rod reveal once again that this year's Detroit Tigers really are just little bitches.
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This damned website keeps yelling at me to install the app. Made logging in and switching to the full website version a PITA – five tries before it actually worked without redirecting me to the app ad. Got it, there’s an app, leave me the he’ll alone now! The web works fine when you don’t stick me in redirect hell.
(Just needed to get that off my chest now that I was finally able to log in and get to the site!)
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by AlanFalcon on Aug 26, 2011 2:00 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
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by Luke Zimmermann on Aug 26, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
My but the kittens are a bunch of whiney bitches
"How much more could you possibly need? I never played this game for money purposes, I played it for love and for championships."
---Jered Weaver.
Penney and Verlander are douchebags.
Hustle to first base? WAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
Play your normal game by bunting? WAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
Follow up -- They need to sign Perez from Cleveland.
He’s a whiny crybaby too.
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
You missed out the King of Poker...
…which involves getting some mates round, with a lot of beer
I see red people
I'm reading a book about sabermetrics.
It’s called “Baseball between the numbers: Why everything you know about the game is wrong”.
It’s somewhat outdated as it only gives data up to the 2005 season but the purpose of the book is not so much the assertions it makes but how it leads up to those conclusions.
One of the topics it tackles is the whole “4-man rotation versus 5” debate and it gives data from 1972 up until 2005 and long story short, it says that pitchers on average fair basically the same on 3 days rest as opposed to 4, assuming they aren’t over-worked in many of their individual starts. What kills pitchers is a high volume of 120+ pitch outings, not the amount, or perceived lack of, rest.
"F it, let's pitch." - Ervin Santana
by Chzburger Jones on Aug 26, 2011 2:31 AM PDT reply actions
I only read
the top ten list, and this one sticks out:
Pay off the City of Anaheim so that the Los Angeles Angels can finally drop the “of Anaheim” from their name. It may not be a great ROI on the money, but it will make us all feel a lot better.
I’m fairly certain there’s a grain of seriousness to this, in which case is just utter fail.
Bigger waste of money than Wells, that would be
All Arte has to do is wait out the contract which is over in, what? 2017? After that he’ll have the leverage to call the team The Buttercup Junction Sillynannies if he wants to.
"How much more money could you possibly need?" -Weaver
by Zoe Necrosis on Aug 26, 2011 5:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I prefer real poker as in with people. But hate the “can I have a dollar” network’s version. It’s worse than paint drying.
by Halos in DE on Aug 26, 2011 7:45 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Video of Penny yelling at Sean Rodriguez for running
http://www.raysindex.com/2011/08/tigers-pitcher-thinks-baseball-field-is-no-place-for-hustling.html
"Bloody your hands on a cactus tree/
Wipe it on your dress and send it to me."
can he compete with kinsler and lackey?
the jeff mathis research center: searching for a way to strike out on 2 pitches since 2005
by the king of CERA on Aug 26, 2011 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Ooh! That's some stiff competition there.
Don’t know, but he’s making a run at it.
"Grantland Rice, the great sportswriter, once said 'It's not whether you win or lose, it's how you play the game.'
Well, Grantland Rice can go to hell as far as I am concerned." - Gene Autry
by Angelsfan015 on Aug 26, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Youklis wins Douche of the Year every year for me. Papelbon is runner-up.
Chick Chicky Boom!
by Monkeyspanked on Aug 26, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Papelbon is by far the biggest douche in baseball
nobody even comes close IMHO
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some tool named Designatedforassignment from Athletics Nation
by 2pintsofbooze on Aug 26, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
It's incredible how much I loathe that guy
He’s probably the only one who I actively hope fails on a nightly basis.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
thought about him, and he could definitely make a case
but to me Papsmear is in a league all his own
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some tool named Designatedforassignment from Athletics Nation
by 2pintsofbooze on Aug 26, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Penny claims he was upset that Rodriguez was cussing as he rounded the bases...not the hustling.
This upset him because there are kids at the park. So he decides to drop multiple F-bombs loud enough that Rodriguez could hear him from the dugout. Seems like a logical solution to me.
As much I want us to get a big bat this winter
I have a feeling the most we can hope for is Aramis Ramirez along with Morales actually making it through Spring Training and into the Opening Day lineup.
Also, I have a feeling Wells might do some damage this weekend. Arlington is one of the places where he actually has had some success.
Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.
Who needs a big bat, when you can add together Callaspo's and Izturis numbers?
557 / 693 / 757 with 10 home runs. Tony might need to get another middle infielder to boost up that HR production, however.
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
by clover_black on Aug 26, 2011 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions
What about having Trout play 3rd base?
Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.
by Commander_Nate on Aug 26, 2011 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions
He's too busy catching
"Its like when i’m right…i’m right… and when i’m wrong…i could have been right..so i’m still right cause i could have been wrong"-Chevy Clarke's Twitter
I don't see Ramirez really improving our numbers at 3b.
He’s a much better hitter than Callaspo but then he gives that all back on defense.
He’s also 33 so I’m not sure we want another deteriorating veteran on this team.
I'm not saying he will
Just saying that’s the type of guy the FO would see as an “impact bat” at the “right price.”
Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.
by Commander_Nate on Aug 26, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
for some sreange reason that websote is blocked at my work
what is #10?
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some tool named Designatedforassignment from Athletics Nation
by 2pintsofbooze on Aug 26, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
*strange
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some tool named Designatedforassignment from Athletics Nation
by 2pintsofbooze on Aug 26, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Number 10
Save all that money to throw the most lavish championship parade of all time after Weaver pitches the Angels past the Rangers and all the way to a World Series this October!!!!!!
I'd be down with that
thanks
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some tool named Designatedforassignment from Athletics Nation
by 2pintsofbooze on Aug 26, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
man some of these guys sound like they have been reading here!
Haha bitterness.
Are you sure he was safe? It looked like an out to the entire statium. Well bad call Blue.
by Alavel on Aug 26, 2011 9:37 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
bodog it.
"Keep pushing for us." Ervin Santana after NO-HITTER (July 27, 2011)
by thebigtizzle on Aug 26, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
I know there are still other options available
just hard to trust having any significant amount of money online anymore. And bodog has said they are leaving the US market at the end of the year anyways.
Really? Hadn't heard that.
Yeah options have dwindled for sure. I’m hoping for some legislation, but I know it’s dire. I also miss the good days. After bodog, they’re all a bunch of unknowns I wouldn’t trust with real money.
"Keep pushing for us." Ervin Santana after NO-HITTER (July 27, 2011)
by thebigtizzle on Aug 26, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Move to Canada or set up an account there.
Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.
by Commander_Nate on Aug 26, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Weav confirms he is pitching on Sunday on ESPN Radio on the SVP Show
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
awesomesauce
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some tool named Designatedforassignment from Athletics Nation
by 2pintsofbooze on Aug 26, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
To catapult the Angels (and my fantasy team) into 1st place!!!
Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.
by Commander_Nate on Aug 26, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Also confirms he hasn't been in a fight since 6th grade, doesn't remember who he fought.
Confirms Doug Gottlieb is a moron.
"Lose your pants and only good things can happen."-MayhemInTheHood
by Mayheminthehood on Aug 26, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
I've heard him say that before. I give him props for that, also it makes sense since he's a local boy from Orange.
"Lose your pants and only good things can happen."-MayhemInTheHood
by Mayheminthehood on Aug 26, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Obtuse?
Son, you’re forgetting yourself.
"I have something 95 percent of all those All-Stars only wish they had: a World Series ring. If I had to choose between that and being an All-Star, it would be no contest. I’d grab the gold ring and never look back." -Tim Salmon
Never been a fan of obtuse angles, too ugly. A cuter type of angle would be better.
AWB - Thank you, Arte.
It's a sine of the times that this thread has gone off on a tangent.
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
The hosts were telling Jered that they were surprised to seem him go aggro in Detroit
Doug Gottlieb then asked Jered when the last time he got into a fight was…typical stupid, humorless Gottlieb.
Weaver should’ve given him the Jim Mora treatment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akKjLWG0KG4&feature=player_embedded
"Lose your pants and only good things can happen."-MayhemInTheHood
by Mayheminthehood on Aug 26, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Doesn't Santana have pretty bad numbers in Texas?
Maybe let Williams pitch Saturday, move up Weaver and let Santana go against King Felix on Monday?
do you think williams will do better?
go long with extenze...i do
by angelsownredsux on Aug 26, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Santana also had really bad numbers against Cleveland
I’d still trust Santana over Jerome.
by TheKingfish on Aug 26, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
This
Haren, Santana, & Weaver give us the best shot. Short rest or not.
"Its like when i’m right…i’m right… and when i’m wrong…i could have been right..so i’m still right cause i could have been wrong"-Chevy Clarke's Twitter
and it sets us up nicely for the end of the year
where Haren, Santana and Weaver pitches against Texas in the last series of the season. We got 6 games left against Texas and to have our three best pitchers face them twice each is a no brainer.
So you're saying you trust a guy who just pitched a no hitter over a toledo mud hen alumni?
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
by clover_black on Aug 26, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Just throwing it out there to get some feedback.
Williams best quality is the “unknown” factor. Texas hasn’t seen him and that could be a big edge. I am just wondering if that is a big enough edge to consider pitching him over Santana.
I like putting weave/Santana/Haren
Out there this weekend against TX in their bandbox and letting the less consistent starters go up against Seattle. Safeco + M’s lousy offense could be the right thing for those guys
by river-z on Aug 26, 2011 12:04 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
He had never won in Cleveland up to this year as well.
#nohitter.
"Keep pushing for us." Ervin Santana after NO-HITTER (July 27, 2011)
by thebigtizzle on Aug 26, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
It is sad as hell....
to see Chone Figgins basically crumble in Seattle. I GOTTA believe the team has horribly mismanaged him and he’s basically given up at this point. It’s his own fault for chasing the money, but he’s a far better player than Mariners fans are having to endure.
I think they made two mistakes with him.
The biggest was moving him from 3B to 2B. They basically told him, “We don’t give a shit how hard you worked to become a GG caliber (and yes he was) 3B.”
The other was moving him to the 2 slot, but that shouldn’t have been as big a deal. Combined with the first issue, and BAM!!!
Also, let’s face it, his skill set — speed — does not age well.
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
whoops, I did not see this thread
yes, I agree with Red Floyd, Figgy fit well into the Angels system, not sure Seattle has a system.
Angels in 2011!
Wakamatsu was an absolute idiot with how he handled Figgins.
The Mariners had jose Lopez, a 2B switch to 3B after they signed Figgins, a 3B and made him play 2nd.
I just remember being so confused by that. Not to mention that the most logical thing for them to do that season with their lineup was just moving Ichiro, their best player, to the 3 because they had no player capable of getting hits after Ichiro and Figgins.
"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen
Piñata is pitching to
I have a secret place, inside my mind, where I keep hidden inspiration you wont find.
by Tapatio Man on Aug 26, 2011 11:46 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Piñata is pitching tomorrow,
Weaver is pitching Sunday if we’ve lost or split the first two games, if not Santana will pitch on Sunday instead of weaver.
According to four letter foos
I have a secret place, inside my mind, where I keep hidden inspiration you wont find.
by Tapatio Man on Aug 26, 2011 11:48 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Egh
If Pinata’s starting tomorrow, give him a super short leash and keep Jerome/Santana ready in the pen.
by TheKingfish on Aug 26, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
looks like Scoscia is too scared
to take a shot at winning.
How do you figure?
He’s basically going all out to win – platooning a highly paid vet so a 20-year-old can play; tacitly admitting his mistake in playing Mathis at catcher; pitching Weaver on three days’ rest…
Even if he doesn’t start Santana on short rest, he’s still going almost all out for this. And he may know something about Santana that we don’t regarding Ervin’s stamina level. Maybe he doesn’t think Santana can handle it and would rather save him for the rest of the season.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
We need wins first, and we will still need wins later. Short resting the staff, will mess up the rotation for the next week. If not needed, we should not do this.
We need to win G1 – Winning this game continues the Rangers downspin, and we can start Pinerio with Williams coming in to help when needed. That wouldn’t be too bad. Joel the junk baller starts, with Jerome coming in with some control to mix things up on the Rangers verses C.J. trying to get his team out a losing streak. Without this win we can start to head into panic mode. Back by four, and starting Santana against Wilson on short rest in G2.
With a Game 1 win, I see this rotation. In Game 2 it will be Joel/Jerome. In Game 3 Voodoo will get the start. Then Jered will get the Monday start against the Mariners.
To sound like Soth, a series win is what we are fighting for. Play to your best advantage to win what we can while visiting Texas. Then win the games that we should after.
I agree about G1.
I think we have to take this game for sure. I think the team is reacting to the last Chatwood and Richards outings, where you kinda felt like you gave a game away. Maybe you lose those anyway, but even on short rest, I have to think Santana and Weaver give you chances to win.
I’d consider Williams, out of curiosity, so he stays warm, but maybe they see something with the pitches he’s throwing and don’t like the matchup in that park? I’m glad JP isn’t pitching. I’m praying for a win in all three, but not being down 4 early is kinda important too. JP needs some more innings before he should pitch a series like this IMO.
"Keep pushing for us." Ervin Santana after NO-HITTER (July 27, 2011)
by thebigtizzle on Aug 26, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
"Foos" Indeed
They’re wrong, of course. Pineiro and Williams will go against the Mariners, according to the Angels.
Figgy
Good story about Figgy. —he really was a versatile player with the Halos and very valuable. He fit well into Soth’s system.
Angels in 2011!
Phil Hellmuth is just a joy to watch lose.
His latest appearance on The Big Game was classic.
Also, you gotta love people who have their own personal logo.
"It is a haunted game in which every player is measured against the ghosts of all who have gone before."
I got something for that top 10
How about pay Haren. That way our two best pitchers are locked up for a the foreseeable future
He's already getting paid pretty well
From Cot’s:
09:$7.5M, 10:$8.25M, 11:$12.75M, 12:$12.75M, 13:$15.5M club option ($3.5M buyout)
Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.
by Commander_Nate on Aug 26, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the Tigers and Sosc's and his deciples have a different world view
Detriot seem to be to wait for the 3 run home run while Sosc, Maddon, Black and probably Roenicke, if he didn’t have the big boppers he has, play hustle baseball.
Notice. Detriot gets PO’ed and show-boats because Weaver told Ordonez to hustle and stop admiring the view and then they get upset with Rodriguez for hustling.
Also, they are douches.
I like hold 'em
but I prefer Magic: The Gathering
Funny, there are a number of Hold 'Em Pros who get together to play M:TG.
They all live in the same tower here in Vegas.
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