Ervin Santana Beats Texas on Three Days Rest
by Rev Halofan on Aug 27, 2011 8:15 PM PDT
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Final Score in Arlington: Angels 8, Rangers 4
Ervin Santana pitched seven strong innings on three days rest, allowing 4 ER on 4 Hits, walking one and striking out 2. The Angels bats awoke as five Angels hit homeruns in the hitter-friendly confines of the Texas ballpark:
- Vernon Wells hit a HR off of C.J. Wilson
- Mike Trout hit his first of what will hopefully be many soulcrushing homers in Suburban Dallas
- Bobby Wilson followed Trout with his first homerun of the season.
- Peter Bourjos hit the fourth HR of the game off of CJ which is not a typo for Cy and won't be mistaken for "Young" if he pitches like tonight.
- Howie Kendrick hit a homerun off of Koji Uehara late in the game to give the Angels a four-run cushion.
Uehara was the big deadline trade the Rangers made. That trade worked out for the Angels tonight! Mike Adams was the other big trade the Rangers made at the deadline. He pitched a scoreless inning tonight after having given up the walkoff homer to Mark Trumbo last Thursday after which the team has lost but once. Love those deadline deals!
Santana threw 97 pitches as Rangers batters are notorious glory hogs, swinging for the little league fences in their stat-licious hitter's paradise. But as Jose Mota pointed out, Nolan Ryan threw all of his four no-hitters as an Angel on three days rest.
Scott Downs made his first appearance after a hammy scare and was the Econoline Shut Downs we have come to love. Jordan Walden loaded the bases against one strikeout in 24 pitches and was removed for Hisanori Takahashi. The Soth pushed the right buttons - TaKa my Breath Away Hashi got last night's big bat David Murphy to ground into a game ending double play, earning his 2nd save as an Angel in the process and literally living up the billing of that stat: Game Saved.
Rook V. Vet Notes:
While some Angels fans clamor for rookie replacements in the lineup mike trout cost the team with a big mental error in the fourth inning. He would have had an easy throw to home for the third out of the inning but instead hesitated and threw to 3B, where the runner was safe and the run scored. Had he not hesitated, he would have thrown out the runner at 3B. One hundred percent of the blame though might not be on the rookie as it was intimated, though not captured on tape, that teammates were sending different signals about where to throw the ball.
In the top of the fifth, though, veteran Vernon Wells could have stopped at 3B but ran through on a diving Elvis Andrus stop. The vet was an easy tag out on the basepaths... but just as Trout may have been misled by a teammate on the diamond, Dino Windmill Ebel may have misread the Andrus smothering of the sharp Trout grounder. Vernon also took away a flyball that was clearly the call of CF Peter Bourjos... it coulda been a disaster. But our overpaid dysfunction did get the scoring started with a solo HR, the first big crack in what was the easily permeable armor of All Star Game Losing Pitcher CJ Wilson.
Score: Vets -1 + 1 = 0, Rooks: -1 (Trout) -1 (Walden) +1 = wow... Vets live to fight another day!
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LIGHT UP THE HALO!!!!!!
Just Another Halos Victory!!!!
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
Hi Opie!!!
Didn’t get a chance to say hello in the gamethread.
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
itd be really cool
If the halo would just glow like that once in a while, without the sequenced lights
IT COULD HAPPEN
by BigBangRobbDawgg on Aug 27, 2011 9:33 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
I can't blame Wells for the base running
Dino was sending him all the way.
Tim Salmon: The once and future Kingfish.
i yelled at wells (at my TV)
but Victor pointed out that Windmill had sent him. Dumb Ebel.
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Aug 27, 2011 8:25 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Wells Also Hesitated
Probably a bad decision by Ebel (he probably thought the ball was going through), but Wells should be going full tilt until the coach instructs him otherwise.
"What would Ebel Do?"
…some dumb shit, apparently.
"Bloody your hands on a cactus tree/
Wipe it on your dress and send it to me."
Someone please stop Rodney from mentoring Walden
Jeez…that kid is going to take years off my life.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Walden needs to go back to A-A-A and learn a new pitch or three. He is too scary on many levels.
Have Downs close or by committee. Yay Angels anyway.
"It's our money," owner Arte Moreno said.
He knows enough
Certainly enough to be a closer. You need one great pitch, one other average pitch, and possibly a third show-me pitch just to help keep hitters honest. Unfortunately, he can’t control any of them.
A bit more AAA time might not hurt, but I don’t know that his control is going to improve all that much.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
At least he is a better thrower
than Kevin Jepsen.
"F it, let's pitch." - Ervin Santana
by Chzburger Jones on Aug 28, 2011 2:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Let's set the bar real high, thank you.
by mustard_man on Aug 28, 2011 4:53 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
but...but...but...Jepsen's got great stuff!!!
There’s a blast from 2009 for you. Present day reality: Jepsen still sucks.
More Howie please...
Thank you Victor and Gubi
Nolan Ryan pitched all 7 of his no-nos on 3 days rest (4 man rotation).
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
As tough as we are Soth, got to give credit for Soth for not letting it blow up.
Now that Lackey has turned to the enemy lets kick his ass
by Angelsrthebest101 on Aug 27, 2011 8:19 PM PDT reply actions
it wasnt him...sosh looked over to butcher
and he said yeah take him out
conger > mathis
Just because butcher thought so too
Doesn’t mean Sosh wasn’t right. If Sosh wanted Walden to stay in, he would have stayed in
"How much more could you possibly need? I never played this game for money purposes, I played it for love and for championships."
---Jered Weaver.
Downs was used in the eighth, and will be needed tomorrow, so was unavailable
You have to try and get the players available game time in every situation. At this time Soth is trying to figure out what role Walden can be effective at. maybe now he knows. It wasn’t a save situation. We were ahead by three at the time. maybe Soth left Walden in to long, but the stRangers were not hitting him hard either.
He did end up getting yanked, with the bases loaded, Takahashi replaced him, nobody on this site was too happy, and the game ended on a double play. We win.
The bullpen has to get figured out. There are no options out there, except for Downs at the moment.
So the game plan at the moment is this:
Have the starter go as far as he can, hoping for 7 innings/115 pitches.
Depending on the situation have Downs ready to shut down the eighth inning.
Then pick, and choose, from the rest of the kindling in the pen. Maybe it’s an out by committee, maybe someone steps up and gets the save. But Soth has to find out if these guys can pitch. Downs can’t pitch 2-3 inning every game.
The Heath Bell acquisition is really paying dividends right about now!
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Aug 28, 2011 7:07 AM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
The Friars got rid of Adams, and might retain Bell as their face of the franchise
Bell would like to stay in SD. Likes the area, and the Pads don’t have much after him. He will play in most games, giving the fans something to look forward to when they visit the park.
Adams has helped us.
I'm just glad Waldo got all that out of his system
by DragBikeRacer on Aug 27, 2011 8:19 PM PDT via iPhone app reply actions
Sweet game
For the win tomorrow!!
what angel game does not kill me, just makes my heart weaker
by snowball1813 on Aug 27, 2011 8:20 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Great win for Halos! Get one tomorrow and we will be one out and tied in the L column.
Now that Lackey has turned to the enemy lets kick his ass
by Angelsrthebest101 on Aug 27, 2011 8:22 PM PDT reply actions
I'm going out on a limb here, but
this was a lot more fun than yesterday
Well, come see a fat old man some time!
"with your bad back, Ed, you shouldn't be climbing trees!"
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Aug 27, 2011 8:43 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Yea but we cant get into the playoffs scoring 0-2 runs a game
That’s why we need Trout and anybody but Mathis.
Ervin did what he was tasked to do… line us up for a winnable game. For that I thank him.
I know and I agree,
my point was, that our perception of Ervin giving up 4 runs depends upon whether we won or lost
Way to do work Men........
Way. To. Do. Work.
The score dictated they pass
by norcaliangelsfan on Aug 27, 2011 8:24 PM PDT reply actions
I met a man in Brussels
He was 6 foot tall and full of muscles
I said, “Do you speak my language?”
He just smiled and gave me a vegemite sandwich!
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
Not that there's anything *WRONG* with you liking that
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
Trout in line-up, we win. End of story. Yes, he made a bad throw but his HR made up for that.
A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.
What a pleasure to hear Bobby Wilson in the post-game interview.
Twice the personality and humility of Mathis, a fraction of the psychic cost.
by Turks Teeth on Aug 27, 2011 8:26 PM PDT via iPhone app reply actions
I mentioned he is articulate in the other thread. No ums, ahs, or nonsensical utterances.
A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.
I found the Mathis post game interview
"Bloody your hands on a cactus tree/
Wipe it on your dress and send it to me."
any chance you would know how i could rip it from mlb.tv?
by Halostradamus on Aug 27, 2011 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions
So, if we wanted a Trumbo video, would we use NetVideoTrumbo(2)?
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
Sorry... the coincidence was too good to pass up
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
Big ups to all the guys that hit homers tonight.
They were the keys to victory on the non-pitching side of things.
"Grantland Rice, the great sportswriter, once said 'It's not whether you win or lose, it's how you play the game.'
Well, Grantland Rice can go to hell as far as I am concerned." - Gene Autry
Me too.
Perhaps tomorrow?
"Grantland Rice, the great sportswriter, once said 'It's not whether you win or lose, it's how you play the game.'
Well, Grantland Rice can go to hell as far as I am concerned." - Gene Autry
by Angelsfan015 on Aug 28, 2011 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions
He deserves a Howards big screen.
"Bloody your hands on a cactus tree/
Wipe it on your dress and send it to me."
right, so he can watch from home
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Aug 27, 2011 8:37 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
I like your thinking.
My response to your letter of February 19, 1976, is - kiss my ass.
Sincerely,
Bill Baxley, Attorney General
by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Aug 27, 2011 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Let's give Mathis some Mini-Sirloin-Burgers for his awesome cheerleading-from-the-dugout skills
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
He's got his prize already.
My response to your letter of February 19, 1976, is - kiss my ass.
Sincerely,
Bill Baxley, Attorney General
by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Aug 27, 2011 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Naps wrist looked pretty bad.
I bet he doesn’t play tomorrow.
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
Celebration
I hate seeing him do well.
by Halostradamus on Aug 27, 2011 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions
That would disappoint me.
Oh, did I say disappoint? I meant that would dishearten me. Wait..what?
My response to your letter of February 19, 1976, is - kiss my ass.
Sincerely,
Bill Baxley, Attorney General
by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Aug 27, 2011 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Let's be fair here
Vernon’s job as a baserunner in that situation is to pay attention to his coach all the way. You can’t run quickly looking over your shoulder.
He hauled ass and took the advice of his 3rd base coach, who was wrong to send him. This is on Ebel, not Wells.
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Aug 27, 2011 8:29 PM PDT reply actions
someone up this thread said wells paused. i didnt see that.
Ebel all the way in my book
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Aug 27, 2011 8:32 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
We played "Napoli ball" tonight ... nuthin' but solo dongs
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Aug 27, 2011 8:31 PM PDT via iPhone app reply actions
Appropriate when mentioning Naps in the same sentence.
A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.
by angelslogic on Aug 27, 2011 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
LSB is fun
if we dont win tomorrow i will literally commit suicide…. has anyone ever put that on the table?
cause i just did………………………………
“God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this “It was a close play” shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Aug 27, 2011 10:21 PM CDT reply
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
Damn, their sig's are hysterically tragic.
My response to your letter of February 19, 1976, is - kiss my ass.
Sincerely,
Bill Baxley, Attorney General
by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Aug 27, 2011 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I spend a lot of time in Dallas
and the normal Ranger fan simply is not that big an asshole. Quite friendly actually. The LSB idiots are sociopathic
Well, come see a fat old man some time!
I will respect your opinion and have my own.
I know a lot of Texans and I dislike most of them. They hate California for no good reason. Usually about gun laws and getting pulled over…etc. Eff them.
I can see that
but in case you didn’t know, most of the rest of the country hates California for no reason (certainly in NY and DC). The gun laws in Texas are insane and once again, they are a different breed of cat, but have always treated me with kindness and respect.
Well, come see a fat old man some time!
the chicks in Texas
fuck on the first date.
But then they make you go to church with them the next day and pretend they are virgins. And if she takes you to meet the preacher after the service and he has a cold sore on his lip… well, he is just spreading the good word, lips to lips.
by Rev Halofan on Aug 27, 2011 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Texans hate California
because Texans are so ego-centric about how “awesome” their state is and California is probably their biggest competitor in the state fame/popularity department so they feel threatened by us.
F Texas.
"F it, let's pitch." - Ervin Santana
by Chzburger Jones on Aug 28, 2011 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions
difference between texas and caliornia
Texans feel a rivalry with Californians over whose state is better.
Californians are unaware there is anywhere to rival their state.
by Rev Halofan on Aug 28, 2011 2:21 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Texas has inferiority issues
More so than a rivalry.
"Its like when i’m right…i’m right… and when i’m wrong…i could have been right..so i’m still right cause i could have been wrong"-Chevy Clarke's Twitter
That also sums up the northern vs. southern Californian rivalry
So Cal is unaware that it exists.
THIS… IS… ANAHEIM!!
OK, I MAY have been generalizing just a bit....
…but I travel frequently to Dallas, so I’m not speaking completely without basis
Texas is certainly crazy...but generally pretty friendly and nice
Well, come see a fat old man some time!
Southern Hospitality
They have inbred daughters to marry off, of COURSE they have to be pleasant.
by Rev Halofan on Aug 27, 2011 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not true at all.
I’ve lived out here for 8 years and the people on LSB are literally the exact opposite of what most Texans are like.
Baseball is a funny game...
by Halosfan777 on Aug 27, 2011 9:59 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
TheGhostofErikThompson is their Jim Jones and LSB is their Jonestown.
"It's our money," owner Arte Moreno said.
and that right there will be the end of neftali feliz
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Aug 27, 2011 8:42 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
I just went on there for my first time
and let them know upfront that I was an Angels fan. They went ape shit on me, lol!
by Jason Andrew Martin on Aug 27, 2011 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, stick to Halos Heaven.
"It is a haunted game in which every player is measured against the ghosts of all who have gone before."
Darwinism in action...
…don’t just do it for yourself, do it for all of us.
I see red people
by The Limey on Aug 28, 2011 1:17 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
The people on LSB
sure do love the COC.
"F it, let's pitch." - Ervin Santana
by Chzburger Jones on Aug 28, 2011 2:54 AM PDT up reply actions
YES WE CAN!!!!
(since nobody has started this subthread yet)
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
We can, Yes!!
My response to your letter of February 19, 1976, is - kiss my ass.
Sincerely,
Bill Baxley, Attorney General
by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Aug 27, 2011 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Yoda, you are channelling, hmmm?
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
Channel or channel not, there is no try.
My response to your letter of February 19, 1976, is - kiss my ass.
Sincerely,
Bill Baxley, Attorney General
by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Aug 27, 2011 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions
a lovely lady she is and to her my apologies!
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
(Places winky emoticon here)
My response to your letter of February 19, 1976, is - kiss my ass.
Sincerely,
Bill Baxley, Attorney General
by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Aug 27, 2011 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions
nice ... 2nd time in club history 5 Halos with homers in one game
first time was 4/23/85 … decinces grich jackson schofield and narron.
WOW
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Aug 27, 2011 8:39 PM PDT via iPhone app reply actions
Reggie hit two in that game as well.
Dingerz!
Tim Salmon: The once and future Kingfish.
by Teixeira Who? on Aug 27, 2011 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Ozzie guillen on Bourjos:
“Oh my god, he can be my favorite player. I’ve never seen a white man that can run that fast. It is really impressive. That man might be the fastest person in baseball right now.”
by Halostradamus on Aug 27, 2011 8:40 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
GTFO!
He really said that? hahahahaha
"Bloody your hands on a cactus tree/
Wipe it on your dress and send it to me."
There's a fanshot on it somewhere.
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
Bourjos must be an
imposter!
"And that’s why to hell with the traffic, Diane, we’re staying until the end of the game, and that’s final." ~brokenyard, 8/18/11
That is some freaky shit right there.
I didn’t know Mike Hampton played football.
My response to your letter of February 19, 1976, is - kiss my ass.
Sincerely,
Bill Baxley, Attorney General
by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Aug 27, 2011 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Not as delectable as this..
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
by vlad IS my man on Aug 27, 2011 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
LLOL!
My response to your letter of February 19, 1976, is - kiss my ass.
Sincerely,
Bill Baxley, Attorney General
by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Aug 27, 2011 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Is "darken" even an option on photoshop?
"Grantland Rice, the great sportswriter, once said 'It's not whether you win or lose, it's how you play the game.'
Well, Grantland Rice can go to hell as far as I am concerned." - Gene Autry
by Angelsfan015 on Aug 27, 2011 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions
HA!
"Grantland Rice, the great sportswriter, once said 'It's not whether you win or lose, it's how you play the game.'
Well, Grantland Rice can go to hell as far as I am concerned." - Gene Autry
by Angelsfan015 on Aug 27, 2011 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions
OMFG!
My response to your letter of February 19, 1976, is - kiss my ass.
Sincerely,
Bill Baxley, Attorney General
by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Aug 27, 2011 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Retirment ha ben berry berry bad to me!
My response to your letter of February 19, 1976, is - kiss my ass.
Sincerely,
Bill Baxley, Attorney General
by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Aug 27, 2011 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
just disgusting
"Stay loyal to the Angels. As for me, I'm jumping on the Nationals bandwagon, later." -Daniel Sirca
by migfig on Aug 27, 2011 10:32 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Whitey Sosa
looks kind of like Paul Rudd.
"F it, let's pitch." - Ervin Santana
by Chzburger Jones on Aug 28, 2011 2:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Ebel sending Wells-
Looking at that play, I think from the angle of Andrus’ body, you couldn’t see the ball clearly from around third base. Dino doesn’t do stuff like that too often- I get the impression there was some obstruction. Nice game, but Waldo is starting to scare the hell out of my wife when he comes in.
I gotta go. Gotta pack my suitcase for SF.
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
I gotta pack for St. Louis. Happy travels!
by Halostradamus on Aug 27, 2011 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Gotta pack up a few things myself.
Termite Tenting is next week. Been bagging stuff for a week now.
"Grantland Rice, the great sportswriter, once said 'It's not whether you win or lose, it's how you play the game.'
Well, Grantland Rice can go to hell as far as I am concerned." - Gene Autry
by Angelsfan015 on Aug 27, 2011 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Nah.
Just time to tent the house. It happens every 5 years or so.
"Grantland Rice, the great sportswriter, once said 'It's not whether you win or lose, it's how you play the game.'
Well, Grantland Rice can go to hell as far as I am concerned." - Gene Autry
by Angelsfan015 on Aug 28, 2011 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Sure beats me.
"Grantland Rice, the great sportswriter, once said 'It's not whether you win or lose, it's how you play the game.'
Well, Grantland Rice can go to hell as far as I am concerned." - Gene Autry
by Angelsfan015 on Aug 27, 2011 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I am getting my couch shined to watch the Angels win tomorrow on Sunday night baseball!
Now that Lackey has turned to the enemy lets kick his ass
by Angelsrthebest101 on Aug 27, 2011 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions
These people on Angel talk are absolutely retarded
calling about getting power after we hit 5 solos. Good timing tard.
I would hang up on more than half the callers
by Halostradamus on Aug 27, 2011 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions
He has plenty of practise at it, I imagine.
"Grantland Rice, the great sportswriter, once said 'It's not whether you win or lose, it's how you play the game.'
Well, Grantland Rice can go to hell as far as I am concerned." - Gene Autry
by Angelsfan015 on Aug 27, 2011 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions
"Hullo?"
Love it when he says that.
My response to your letter of February 19, 1976, is - kiss my ass.
Sincerely,
Bill Baxley, Attorney General
by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Aug 27, 2011 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Have they asked about big-screen TV's yet?
Oh wait… that’s “Halos Hotline”
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
Verlander gets his 20th win today
got lucky, left the game tied in the sixth after giving up four runs. Then the tabbies score two in the top of the seventh to give him the win.
Good for him.
He’ll get his Cy Young and his team will get raped by the Yankees or Red Sox in the ALDS.
"F it, let's pitch." - Ervin Santana
by Chzburger Jones on Aug 28, 2011 2:04 AM PDT up reply actions
The skanks ain't going nowhere this season
Irene hit them in the head with a frying pan. They have only one scheduled day off for the rest of the season. September 15.
They have a make up game in Baltimore on the eighth, and then fly to LA for the series against us on the ninth. Lack of pitching is going to sink them.
13-3 when Trout starts...
…just sayin’…and sayin’ and sayin’
by K3YEROUT on Aug 27, 2011 9:09 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
alway with the best and most monitored news items
now back to wind and rain, and to how bad it really could have been.
I'm in Jersey right now
Getting a little worried. Winds are picking up.
"Just another Halo victory" - Rory Markas
Used to live in that neck of the state
I wish I were there right now, seriously.
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Aug 27, 2011 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
there is an internet full of porn
and you want a hundred dudes to entertain you?
by Rev Halofan on Aug 27, 2011 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Funny Rev. Porn is good for about 10 minutes. Then i want to laugh.
I sacrificed going to the bars to watch this game. Indulge me damnit!
by Halostradamus on Aug 27, 2011 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
ten minutes?
if you are doing it right, try 30 seconds.
by Rev Halofan on Aug 27, 2011 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I like to get in the mood, light candles, put on some music
y’know
by Halostradamus on Aug 27, 2011 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Dating Miss Right can be such a pain, huh?
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
Here's an entertaining quote from LSB
that being said…. I fucking hate tmike socia and i want to light his stupid face on firea nd put it out with a fucking goflf cleat.
How much meth does your mother have to smoke during pregnancy for you to think that qualifies as a sentence? Texas officially revokes its rights to bitch about immigrants not speaking English.
Tim Salmon: The once and future Kingfish.
by Teixeira Who? on Aug 27, 2011 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions
da" ejukashun systm; in texas wurk good,
the jeff mathis research center: searching for a way to strike out on 2 pitches since 2005
by the king of CERA on Aug 28, 2011 1:03 AM PDT up reply actions
was at the game tonight!
Oh how great it was to see those Rangers fans go silent! Light that baby up!
Baseball is a funny game...
by Halosfan777 on Aug 27, 2011 9:38 PM PDT via iPhone app reply actions
How many pounds of water weight did you lose tonight?
My response to your letter of February 19, 1976, is - kiss my ass.
Sincerely,
Bill Baxley, Attorney General
by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Aug 27, 2011 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Way to much.
It finally dropped below 100 at about 9:30. Absolutely ridiculous. But it was worth it!
Baseball is a funny game...
by Halosfan777 on Aug 27, 2011 9:48 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Haha did I break some kind of code of ethics that I wasn't aware of?
by Jason Andrew Martin on Aug 27, 2011 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
No, just having a little fun with you and them.
You cool. LSB dosen’t have a code of ethics, or couldn’t you tell?
My response to your letter of February 19, 1976, is - kiss my ass.
Sincerely,
Bill Baxley, Attorney General
by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Aug 27, 2011 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Haha yeah
they seem like the typical bunch of brainless neanderthals
by Jason Andrew Martin on Aug 27, 2011 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
every site seems that way to its unitiated
treat LSB like TV – there is no commenting on TV and its pathetic inanity still manages to entertain.
by Rev Halofan on Aug 27, 2011 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I wouldn't have normally cared to say anything
But to the one comment of the Angels hitting five home runs in that pile of dog excrement they call a ball park, I just couldn’t resist. I expected to be banned after that, so I didn’t plan on say anything again, lol.
by Jason Andrew Martin on Aug 27, 2011 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
"Expected to be banned"
Getting banned creates more work for the site mods. As a site mod, I don’t want to see anyone having to do all that bullshit over a situation which was totally avoidable when the other team’s fans are classy.
The scoreboard crushed their souls. Banning fans of other teams only makes them feel like they got a little bit of that scoreboard back.
by Rev Halofan on Aug 27, 2011 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Gotcha
Wasn’t aware of that aspect of it. You’ve got a point, I’ll let the scoreboard do the talking next time. Good stuff to know, won’t happen again.
by Jason Andrew Martin on Aug 27, 2011 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Just throwing this out there
Uehara has a 5.59ERA with Texas to go with an 0-2 record.
Adams has given up two gaming winning homers for the Rangers thus far.
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Aug 27, 2011 9:51 PM PDT reply actions
short-term this is awesome.
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
by clover_black on Aug 27, 2011 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Just went on LSB
for my first time
and let them know upfront that I was an Angels fan. They went ape shit on me, lol!
by Jason Andrew Martin on Aug 27, 2011 10:02 PM PDT reply actions
Yeah, you'll get that from any team SBN site
after a loss! Plus they’re just mad because C.J. Got lit up!
"Every time I think I’m out, they pull me back in" -George Costanza
by Howie's Batting Title on Aug 27, 2011 10:40 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Pitcher Comparison
Pitcher A
FIP: 4.11
xFIP: 4.28
K/9: 8.16
BB/9 4.87
WAR: 0.2
Saves: 38
Blown Saves: 0
Pitcher B
FIP: 2.37
xFIP: 3.26
K/9: 9.79
BB/9: 3.62
WAR: 1.8
Saves: 26
Blown Saves: 9
Valverde is Pitcher A. Walden is Pitcher B.
Despite having superior metrics across the board, Walden is the one with all the blown saves.
by Fan Since 1981 on Aug 27, 2011 10:07 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Source
Fangraphs
(Stats do not include today’s games)
by Fan Since 1981 on Aug 27, 2011 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Valverde is more "clutch"
Can’t quantify it, but he hasn’t even blown a save as noted above.
Also, I’m just guessing here, that he probably has had more saves with leads of two or three runs. Walden has often been called upon to save a game with a one run lead.
Although, Walden has also blown some two and three runs leads as well.
More Howie please...
You are correct about clutch being the difference.
Fangraphs has a clutch score. Here is how they define clutch:
Clutch : measures how well a player performed in high leverage situations. It’s calculated using WPA and WPA/LI, and it compares a player’s performance against himself. For example, a player who hits .300 in high leverage situations when he’s an overall .300 hitter is not considered clutch.
The majority of players in the league end up with Clutch scores between 1 and -1, with zero being neutral, positive scores being "clutch", and negative scores being "choke".
Only a few players each year are lucky enough (or unlucky enough) to have extreme Clutch scores.
Out of 172 MLB relievers who pitched at least 30 innings this year, Valverde’s clutch score is 6th best. Walden’s score is ranked 60th.
by Fan Since 1981 on Aug 28, 2011 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Valvetta might be clutch, but who is the batter he faces in that situation.
Is the batter clutch? Is Jose given the leeway to walk batters, not that Walden isn’t but we already know his problems, to get a more favorable match-up that Jose is more comfortable. That way he is able to give up the unintentional IBB on occasion for his comfort.
Valverde is the more veteran of the two, so he might understand the batters better, and knows which ones he can get out.
Right now Walden has only has one pitch, his fastball, and is wild with that. You can’t set up batters like that.
Jordan needs to find his missing turtle.
As my original post noted, Walden has out-pitched Valverde this season.
The whole point is that clutch is not sustainable.
Below is the perfect example of how clutch cannot compensate for overall pitching effectiveness.
In 2009 Pitcher X saved 37 games and only blew 1 save. This must be a guy who knows what it takes to close.
Pitcher X 2009
FIP: 4.56
xFIP: 4.37
WAR: 0.3
Pitcher X 2010
FIP: 4.05
xFIP: 4.42
WAR: 0.3
Pitcher X was essentially the same in 2009 and 2010. In 2009, Pitcher X’s clutch score was #1 in MLB (out of 213 relievers with at least 30 innings pitched). In 2010, his clutch score ranked 43rd out of 207. In 2010 he saved 14 games and blew 7.
Pitcher X is Fernando Rodney.
by Fan Since 1981 on Aug 28, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'm probably not making sense, it wasn't the first time, and won't be the last
I was trying to say that maybe clutch isn’t a part of the stats, but that experience is. Knowing what you are capable of, and using that to your advantage may effect what you can write down compared to what is being done.
Being the more veteran reliever, Valverde gives up more walks, but has less blown saves this season. Jose’s walks look to be more of the pitching around batters to get a more favorable match-ups, knowing who he can face due to experience. Or it could be the people in charge of the dugout, and pen, understand Jose’s capabilities, and use them to the teams best advantage in trying to secure wins. Soth doesn’t know what he has with with Jordan on a day-to-day basis, and he is trying to figure that out now.
And true, for the season Walden has out pitched Valverde, but for the past month and a half – two months, Jordan has been awful, and the first half stats are still painting that over (Jordan needs to find his slider again – insert turtle joke here). While Jose has just been doing his job.
Valverde has replaced Pitcher X in the back end of the Tigers game, only to show the same type of success that X had before leaving the Oven Mitt State to the Golden State.
Maybe this is the man responsible for the Tabbies bullpen stats.
Words to the wise: When Valverde becomes a FA, stay away. Far away.
Jordan has had a real bad last month for a "closer"
Six of his nine blown saves have come in the last two months. The pattern seems to be two good weeks followed by two bad weeks. Go figure.
am shocked
didnot expect the disparity in those numbers
by Rev Halofan on Aug 27, 2011 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Interesting numbers.
But it’s really not all that surprising to me.
Valverde is overrated and apparently insanely lucky. Every time I see a highlight on ESPN or MLB Network of a Tigers game where Valverde gets a save, there are always two guys on base it seems.
Walden’s successful saves are usually pretty clean (for the most) part but his ugly games are where he blows the saves.
"F it, let's pitch." - Ervin Santana
by Chzburger Jones on Aug 28, 2011 2:12 AM PDT up reply actions
I felt really bad when Mike Napoli got HBP from Ervin tonight.
"It's our money," owner Arte Moreno said.
Really? Trolling?
He won’t destroy us tomorrow now
by Halostradamus on Aug 27, 2011 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Did you become an Angels fan in 2011?
"It is a haunted game in which every player is measured against the ghosts of all who have gone before."
No I jumped on the bandwagon in 2002 (shakes head)
I’ve been a fan since I went to a game as a little kid growin up in Orange County. I remember getting real bats as stadium giveaways. email me for my complete bio. Thanks for the interest.
by Halostradamus on Aug 27, 2011 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions
No, he meant the naivete about 44fAN's allegiance
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Aug 28, 2011 1:29 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
I couldn't stop laughing! Not because
I don’t like Naps. But rather I happened to be reading the LSB thread at the time! (Joking aside, wish it was Ian Douche instead)
"Every time I think I’m out, they pull me back in" -George Costanza
by Howie's Batting Title on Aug 27, 2011 10:43 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
good lord the ape shit was flying after those HBPs
the jeff mathis research center: searching for a way to strike out on 2 pitches since 2005
by the king of CERA on Aug 28, 2011 1:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Agreed
He hit the one Ranger I don’t hate. He should have hit Kinsler, or Tony Reagins.
Tim Salmon: The once and future Kingfish.
by Teixeira Who? on Aug 27, 2011 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
What?! Kinsler's been our best player.
by Halostradamus on Aug 27, 2011 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Light that baby up! Literally pour some gasoline on that newborn.
"Stay loyal to the Angels. As for me, I'm jumping on the Nationals bandwagon, later." -Daniel Sirca
by migfig on Aug 27, 2011 10:42 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
lol that was funny.
"Stay loyal to the Angels. As for me, I'm jumping on the Nationals bandwagon, later." -Daniel Sirca
by migfig on Aug 27, 2011 10:56 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
We are 7-1 since I stopped playing pregame picks
Wonderful coincidence or do I have something going here?
"Its like when i’m right…i’m right… and when i’m wrong…i could have been right..so i’m still right cause i could have been wrong"-Chevy Clarke's Twitter
Were you banned or was this self-imposed?
I see red people
by The Limey on Aug 28, 2011 1:26 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Self-imposed
I was hanging in the 70th place range.
"Its like when i’m right…i’m right… and when i’m wrong…i could have been right..so i’m still right cause i could have been wrong"-Chevy Clarke's Twitter
Ever since I started making my PGPs ultra pessimistic, team's been better.
I, on the other hand have dropped from top 5 to lower-middle of the pack.
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
Can't compare to Ryan
He was a freak. And if he thinks all Rangers pitchers should go 140 pitches per start every three days, then Angels fans can rest easy in the long run.
Rev
I suggest the following lineup for the offseason troll war with LSB that you suggested in their post game thread:
clover_black
PhiSlamma
Myself (also known as “CommNate”)
Mayheminthehood
RexTookMyStash
ladybug
Stirrups
Closer: DoV (If we don’t even know what he’s gonna do, imagine how they’ll feel)
More spots available obviously, but I think this would be a good start.
Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.
by Commander_Nate on Aug 28, 2011 12:37 AM PDT reply actions
Where's Rev on that list?
"It is a haunted game in which every player is measured against the ghosts of all who have gone before."
Manager isn't listed in the lineup.
His job is to run out and scream at some suit from SBN when Phi gets perma-banned for what was obviously a very funny joke that said SBN suit did not understand.
Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.
by Commander_Nate on Aug 28, 2011 12:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Send DoV up first...
Scorched earth policy
I see red people
by The Limey on Aug 28, 2011 1:30 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
LEAVE THEM NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I take it you don't have the DOV Secret Decoder Ring
You need to drink more ovaltine
-Quad Fin Rider
by DAD OF VLAD on Aug 28, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
we do look alike
I take it you don't have the DOV Secret Decoder Ring
You need to drink more ovaltine
-Quad Fin Rider
by DAD OF VLAD on Aug 28, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Why the hell are you wearing tights and dancing shoes?
"It is a haunted game in which every player is measured against the ghosts of all who have gone before."
If we start to falter
I’ll run out there to argue a close call and get ejected to fire the team up.
"Its like when i’m right…i’m right… and when i’m wrong…i could have been right..so i’m still right cause i could have been wrong"-Chevy Clarke's Twitter
Is this the lineup for the Trollpen
We’re gonna trot out there?
"Talent does what it can; genius does what it must." ~ Edward G. Bulwer-Lytton
Angels 2011 W-L record with the alternate red jersey: 14-10
Brimful of win
I see red people
by The Limey on Aug 28, 2011 1:28 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Torii "The Archer" Hunter.
Good Job Oxygen
by Halostradamus on Aug 28, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
OMG YES
Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.
by Commander_Nate on Aug 28, 2011 1:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I've never posted anything at LSB before, but if I ever do, it will be this gif.
"Lose your pants and only good things can happen."-MayhemInTheHood
by Mayheminthehood on Aug 28, 2011 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Someone with some skills needs to add an actual crossbow, or perhaps just add a laser beam, or something.
"Lose your pants and only good things can happen."-MayhemInTheHood
by Mayheminthehood on Aug 28, 2011 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Yea that was sick. Sucks I can't save it on my iPhone
I have a secret place, inside my mind, where I keep hidden inspiration you wont find.
by Tapatio Man on Aug 28, 2011 10:08 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
This beats the shit out of those stupid antlers.
Tim Salmon: The once and future Kingfish.
by Teixeira Who? on Aug 28, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
bummed I couldn't watch the game
but glad we were able to take one
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some tool named Designatedforassignment from Athletics Nation
I'm really starting to like this team.
Sunday’s game is huge. I get the feeling we’re going to have Mathis out there, and probably Abreu instead of Trout. I hate it, but I imagine it’s going to happen.
The difference between one game and three games seems pretty big. Let’s win this game.
I've got nothing.
I've got to believe that Abreu is going to be playing against the right-hander.
Hopefully you’re right though.
I've got nothing.
POTG for last night was Takahashi
Ervin was great, but to get the game-ending GIDP with the sacks full is luminous!
More Howie please...
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