Angels Pitching Predictions 50 Games Left
by Rev Halofan on Aug 5, 2011 2:48 AM PDT
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The Angels have fifty games left. The season has 55 days left.
Dan Haren will get eleven more starts, Ervin Santana will get twelve more starts, Jered Weaver will get ten more starts.
If we win all 33 of those games, nothing I write below here will matter.
If we go 20-13 in the 33 remaining starts by our big three, going 9-8 in the other 17 contests started by Chatwood and TBD#5s would make this a 90-win club. Huh? Somebody check mah math!
Tyler Chatwood should get ten more starts, but to be cautious with his innings-pitched ceiling, the club might make that nine starts and give our yet-to-be-named Fifth starter eight starts. And with Weaver's suspension coming up, a spot starter beyond #5 will be required, meaning that whoever gets the fifth starter job will likely only start seven games. The likelihood is that two pitchers will be auditioning for a fifth starter spot over the course of eleven games beginning in Yankee Stadium next Wednesday.
My Predictions: Trevor Bell gets seven starts as our #5. Arkansas Traveler Garrett Richards gets one or two starts as a #6. Look for long relief stints by Horacio Ramirez and Joel Pineiro on "give-up" games. With two mops at the ready, the pressure will be on Rich Thompson and Bobby Cassevah to keep "close behind" games close.
Does Mike Adams, Koji Uehara and Neftali Feliz have it over Scott Downs, Hisanori Takahashi and Jordan Walden. Yes. But not by so much as to mitigate Weaver/ Haren/ Santana keeping our backend three more rested. Draw your own conclusions. If we are to win anything, it will be with the pitching leading the way.
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Could be worth a gamble -- if they bring up Conger with him.
He’s as hittable as ever, but since Conger has been catching him, he’s had better results — an ERA below 2 over his past four outings.
Could be noise, or could be the fact that Salt Lake’s catching has been really iffy until Conger returned.
50 games...hopefully it'll be an exciting race to the end with Texas
BTW, I don’t know where to ask this, but why does LoneStarBall have so much beef against HalosHeaven? I didn’t know Rangers fans hated the Angels so much. Is that really for all Rangers fans or just LSB?
I was reading their front page and their top post on home is “Angels drop Pineiro”
Really? o.O
Just from skimming through it
Sounds like they want to suck Weavers dick and they are extremely scared of us running away with the division with our 1-2-3 punch.
Yep
And it infuriates them when you tell them that the Red Sox are our number one rival and they’re an afterthought.
by HoustonHaloFan on Aug 5, 2011 7:47 AM PDT up reply actions
bottom dwellers for so many years.
pent up rage. 3rd grade education. martyr complex.
They’re like Mariner fans without the self-awareness.
Oh yeah, the lack of one of these stings:
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
by clover_black on Aug 5, 2011 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions 11 recs
"Mariners fans without the self awareness."
I think you summed it up better than anyone could. We should just close this thread now.
Official prediction: The Angels will win the AL west this season.
by RexTookMyStash on Aug 5, 2011 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions
This is primarily the reason we even have a chance
If we are to win anything, it will be with the pitching leading the way
But our playoff chances are also dependent on the vets bats catching up to their fiscal expectations. It could be the 5-10 game difference maker.
The plans are already in the works behind the pitching rotation but you can’t plan for the players to start hitting well.
If only Trumbo was placed in the cleanup spot like he should be.
Wells' bat versus his fiscal requirements are so far removed from one another...
…he’d have to have to be the second coming of the Babe wielding Mjolnir to come close over these last 50 games
I see red people
the angels have benefited from ranger injuries
and what was once the worst bullpen in the majors
The rangers have benefitted from angel injuries for the last two seasons.
Injuries are a part of baseball. Dont be a whiner.
by Balls and Strikes on Aug 5, 2011 7:11 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Who is this Morales character you speak of?
What position does he play? Does he have any power?
CONGER, CONGER, CONGER !!!
Rhymes with McPherson.
Captain, there are doubt's...
"It’s a good opportunity to show we have the strength to respond" - Arsene Wenger, 2011
Go back to your barn.
Official prediction: The Angels will win the AL west this season.
by RexTookMyStash on Aug 5, 2011 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
Awesome argument
we benefited from your pitching deficiencies? HOW FUCKING DARE US!
Man, we should really be ashamed that you guys had a terrible bullpen and pitching staff for so long. I think the Angels front office should take a good, long look in the mirror and really think about how terrible the Angels are because another organization didn’t know how to draft or develop pitching for two decades.
My world…… crumbling….around….me.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
by PhiSlamma on Aug 5, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
I love the caption
Maybe that should replace ‘Buttercup’ this season.
"The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self-awareness." - Annie Savoy
50 games left--wow
Trumbo might catch Salmon after all, but let’s not be greedy—I’ll take 30 Trumbombs.
Go with the youth
First, give Richards a shot. We’ve done well with rookies the experts didn’t expect to succeed this year: Trumbo and Chatwood.
Second, call up Conger now and send Mathis somewhere, anywhere.
With that, I think we look pretty good. Go Angels!
Mathis aint goin nowhere yah hear!
Official prediction: The Angels will win the AL west this season.
by RexTookMyStash on Aug 5, 2011 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Just like he ain't going nowhere when he steps up to the plate with a bat in his hand
well, correction, he will be going right back to the dugout.
CONGER, CONGER, CONGER !!!
What the hell was the point of this?
Official prediction: The Angels will win the AL west this season.
by RexTookMyStash on Aug 5, 2011 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Ha,
I feel lame for asking now.
Official prediction: The Angels will win the AL west this season.
by RexTookMyStash on Aug 5, 2011 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions
What about pulling someone off the waiver wire?
There’s got to be somebody out there who is in a walk year on a non-contending team that would be serviceable for about 10 starts.
Oh, what’s up, Kuroda? You like LA, huh?
Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.
Why didn't we make a go at Doug Fister?
Official prediction: The Angels will win the AL west this season.
by RexTookMyStash on Aug 5, 2011 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions
You really think Detroit overpaid?
Why — because Ruffin was the PTBNL?
The other three were fringe prospects in Detroit’s organization. Sickels didn’t rate any of the three above C+ coming into the season.
I think Fister is really underrated, and has a very team-friendly contract. He’s sort of a cut-rate version of Weaver: really tall, strange angles and a lot of deception, lots of movement on a fastball that stays 88-92 mph. He doesn’t strike as many out, but he has terrific command and keeps the ball in the park. Put an offense behind him, and he becomes a successful pitcher (as his first outing in Detroit showed).
I would’ve happily traded Chatwood and a prospect or two for him.
I think Fister is barely mediocre
Extreme contact guy who has benefitted tremendously from both his home park and the Mariners defensive prowess. He’s fine as a #5 and passable as a #4, I guess. I’d give up a couple mediocre prospects for him, but not four.
If Detroit had given up Ruffin and one meh prospect, that would have been about right. I wouldn’t have even traded Chatwood straight up for him, since Chatwood is younger and cost controlled longer.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
I'll revise a bit
Fister is a #4.
Chatwood already is a #4 (although a lucky one so far), but with a significant development remaining. I’d rather have Chatwood than Fister.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Segura?
Official prediction: The Angels will win the AL west this season.
by RexTookMyStash on Aug 5, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
The heart of the batting order could step up and start hitting like they are paid to do.
This could win us some of those close games too.
"It's our money," owner Arte Moreno said.
It would help if the heart of the order had an actual heart (Trumbo/Howie)
Instead of a pancreas or whatever it seems to have on most nights.
Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.
by Commander_Nate on Aug 5, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Duodenum?
Official prediction: The Angels will win the AL west this season.
by RexTookMyStash on Aug 5, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
I love, I really love my pancreas
Defending maligned chants since 2009
by Gorbachav5 on Aug 5, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
If we play .500 ball, we'll end up with 86 wins. Which is TWO more than 1997
Where our roster included but was not limited to the following players:
Eddie Murray (released)
Jim Leyritz
Chad Kreuter (actually better than Mathis?)
Ricky Henderson
Ken Hill
Randy Verlarde
Mark Gubicza
I think we can do that.
dissenter, dubious and devil's advocate to blog monitors everywhere.
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Aug 5, 2011 10:25 AM PDT reply actions
Gubi sighting!
Official prediction: The Angels will win the AL west this season.
by RexTookMyStash on Aug 5, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Dean Chance!!
"Every time I think I’m out, they pull me back in" -George Costanza
by Howie's Batting Title on Aug 5, 2011 11:12 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I was pondering this situation on the way into the office this morning
Thank you for doing the math. The bottom line is at it has been all season: we need to win when Weaver or Haren is on the mound, and hold our own on the other days.
Why Does it Matter?
Jeffy is so unbelievably talented he could make Rev an average MLB starter. Right?
Tori Hunter
Can somebody explain to me their admiration for Torii? Maybe Ill change my mind, after watching him scoop up money from Yankee fans after a Youklis Home Run, on top of all the stupid comments he’s always making. Like hows Torii going to not stick up for Weaver, rather he calls him stupid? The guy comes off as a money grubber with no real team spirit. Maybe Im wrong.
I dont like the guy
Can somebody help me out here? Maybe im wrong as a fan to be so critical of the dude.
I love Torii
Yes, at this point in his career he is overpaid, but he has been a joy to watch for the last 3 years, is great in the community, and goes out of his way to be personable with fans.
His manner of speaking does not translate into print and people who read his words rather than listen to him speak often form the wrong conclusions about him. Overall, he has been a great face of the franchise.
Hunter is not the smartest guy in the world
who often steps on his own foot during interviews. You kind of have to ignore some stuff (like recently his production at the plate and his inability to let Bourjos do his damn job in CF) to like him, but he is a clubhouse guy who really is the face of the franchise right now.
If Torii starts hitting right around, oh, late September and early October I think your opinion will change.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
right now I'd go with Weaver as the face of the franchise
go long with extenze...i do
by angelsownredsux on Aug 5, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Eh...I think being the face of the franchise involves more than just being the best player on the team
Sometimes, when you have a huge star like Vlad, even a reserved guy is the face of the franchise. But Torii is a “star” on the team and does the most stuff in public and with the media.
It’s close, but I think Torii’s still it for the time being.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
I think Torii is a stand up guy
He does say dumb stuff some times, but I don’t disagree with what he said about the Weaver incident. He told it like it was – unprofessional. It got our #1 pitcher suspended for six games.
Something I always admire about Torii is that he’s never dogged it. He’s making $18 million a year, but I can’t remember one single time thinking that he wasn’t giving 100%, even during slumps or poor stretches by the team. More than anything, I enjoy watching players who play hard. Maybe that’s why I never disliked Willits as much as a lot of people. And I loved Eckstein and Erstad, despite their limitations.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Right, not producing
and his hands on the hips jester with the confused look after every K. I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt.
Right Weaver did screw his team
But as the face of the franchise and for someone who’s done things that have been out of line himself, I would of expected him to come to Weavers aid. Im looking at differently I guess. Whatever, hopefully his bats will pick up soon.
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I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
one of the greatest analogies I've ever read
go long with extenze...i do
by angelsownredsux on Aug 5, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
masturbatorial
is that even a word?.. ijust wanted to type it.
by hoffy loves the angels on Aug 5, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
The only thing anyone could have done more in Weaver's aid is punch Guillen or Verlander in the face
Which would have just gotten them suspended along with Weaver.
Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.
by Commander_Nate on Aug 5, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
i think he should have backed his pitcher
there was a time in baseball when showboating was taken care of by the pitchers. koufax, drysdale or even ryan would have drilled guillen for that . weaver is old school that way, and if you don’t have the support of your teammates what do have? well in thecase of our sterting pitchers, not much it seems. not enough run support on a consistent basis, and now they talk crap about you when your fighting for respect from an opponent. and this guy is one of the weak links in this offensively dismal season. yeah he should have punched guillen and gotten suspended, it couldn’t hurt aside from yesterdays 3for3, which isn’t going to happen again for the rest of the year. we could use him on the bench for 6 games.and it would show thepitchers that the team is willing to fight right along side them instead of watching from the dugout.
by hoffy loves the angels on Aug 5, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
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Official prediction: The Angels will win the AL west this season.
by RexTookMyStash on Aug 5, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
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