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Angels Season Ends Not With a Bang, But a K

Fetal Position on the Basepaths

Final Score in Anaheim: Texas Rangers 4, Angels 3 - Angels eliminated from postseason contention. They are three games out of the Wild Card race with two games left to play.

Lotta chances. All gone.

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Blame of the Game
Jeff Mathis
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Vernon Wells
140 votes

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Tough pick.

BASEBALL !!! ...sucks :( or maybe not? It sorta does.

by Figgi4life on Sep 26, 2011 10:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Turn out the lights.

The Angels are ill-served by a front office that willfully disregards both modern and classic performance measurements when it comes to Jeff Mathis. Astonishing, and nearly unforgiveable.

by LittleCupcakes on Sep 26, 2011 10:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Sigh.

"The AL West is turning into an awkward high school party
The Rangers totally want us to f*ck them and we just won’t do it." - Commander_Nate

by GutterDem0n on Sep 26, 2011 10:13 PM PDT reply actions  

A dark, depressing end to a roller coaster season

I still love my Angels though

"Its like when i’m right…i’m right… and when i’m wrong…i could have been right..so i’m still right cause i could have been wrong"-Chevy Clarke's Twitter

by ryanfea on Sep 26, 2011 10:13 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

This.

"Stay loyal to the Angels. As for me, I'm jumping on the Nationals bandwagon, later." -Daniel Sirca

by migfig on Sep 26, 2011 10:15 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

True

Once Kowbell went out again
I figured we were done

by Raaddad on Sep 26, 2011 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hell no

But somehow being shitty, but not as shitty as I thought we were is not very satisfying

Well, come see a fat old man some time!

by Moondoggy on Sep 26, 2011 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hanging around this long just to see it blow up is rough

At least when we lose in the the playoffs you get to experience the nirvana of a division or Wild Card title.

"Its like when i’m right…i’m right… and when i’m wrong…i could have been right..so i’m still right cause i could have been wrong"-Chevy Clarke's Twitter

by ryanfea on Sep 26, 2011 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

At least we can still laugh at the red sox.

Official prediction: The Angels will win the AL west this season.

by RexTookMyStash on Sep 26, 2011 10:15 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

this brought a smile to my face

thanks, rexy

Well, come see a fat old man some time!

by Moondoggy on Sep 26, 2011 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you, Dan, for doing your JOB

Too bad not enough Angels did theirs this season.

by yeswecan on Sep 26, 2011 10:16 PM PDT reply actions  

I will go to bed dreaming of next year

with Trout, Fleet Pete, and Torii in the OF, Trumbo at first, and Morales as DH

by Raaddad on Sep 26, 2011 10:16 PM PDT reply actions  

That does seem like a nice dream

Just need Conger behind the dish to make it even better.

It’s odd how much of a better team we could field every night if we just played the best players.

by linkbruin on Sep 26, 2011 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

dream of Albert at first

might as well dream big…waking up’s a bitch either way

Well, come see a fat old man some time!

by Moondoggy on Sep 26, 2011 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ok, I'll go for that

Is Arte ready for a 200 mil payroll?

by Raaddad on Sep 26, 2011 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eff it!

I want me some Pujols. Trumbo should really switch to 3rd during the winter.

Representing the Angels in Sin City.

by maze88 on Sep 26, 2011 10:23 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Such a proud club for the past decade

… the front office has quickly turned into the laughing stock of MLB. Arte needs to right this.

Some fans will be satisfied with a second place finish, lamenting the “what ifs” and “if only” throughout the season.

140 Million reasons this club should dominate the west. Pretty disgusted right now.

What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.

by clover_black on Sep 26, 2011 10:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Sad part is we had the players to do it

Starting conger and anyone else in place of mathis and wells and this team would have been at least a couple games better off… enough to win something meaningful.

by Balls and Strikes on Sep 27, 2011 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Imagine if we had signed Beltre

and not traded for Wells…

My guess, hosting 1st round of ALDS

by Unclearnie on Sep 26, 2011 10:17 PM PDT reply actions  

And got rid of Mathis and Rodney..

"The AL West is turning into an awkward high school party
The Rangers totally want us to f*ck them and we just won’t do it." - Commander_Nate

by GutterDem0n on Sep 26, 2011 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

A lineup +Naps, Beltre, and Rivera

And minus Wells and Mathis wins the West pretty easily.

by linkbruin on Sep 26, 2011 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep.

A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.

by angelslogic on Sep 26, 2011 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

He may have stunk, but Wells is just a steaming pile.

Expensive shit. That’s what the Angels trotted out to LF every night.

by linkbruin on Sep 26, 2011 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rivera would've just been a bench option and placeholder for Trout.

And with 73 RBIs, he actually was more of a “run producer” than Vernon this season (66) in fewer plate appearances.

Rivera would’ve been a perfectly fine bench piece for a single year with Beltre and Napoli playing daily.

by Turks Teeth on Sep 26, 2011 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Vernon was simply a placeholder, like Rivera was,

I don’t think he could catch as much flak here. He would just be gone in a year, and he wouldn’t cost that much (in this imaginary universe). But he makes way too much money to be any of kind of placeholder, at least in the eyes of the FO, and he was brought in as some sort of “solution” to our hitting woes. It’s baffling.

by linkbruin on Sep 26, 2011 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Truly baffling.

I was really adamant in the offseason that leftfield was truly the least of our problems — I was completely happy to deal with a little defensive softness for part of a season, given the approach of Trout and how much of the field Bourjos covers. I thought, we either stand pat in the OF (let Rivera, Willits and Abreu rotate, and wait for Trout or Jeremy Moore), or go for a one-year rental. Even DeJesus, as much as he underperformed in Oakland, would have done much less damage.

I was really surprised at how controversial that was in the off-season, and how even the front office adamantly viewed LF as our worst hole. And so we filled it with a landmine.

by Turks Teeth on Sep 26, 2011 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, in the adamants' defense, we didn't imagine Trout would be ready this fast

Rivera being replacement-level is fine as long as the replacement gets here in time. Which, it turned out, he did. A full year of Rivera the way he played in Toronto, and with Trout not quite ready, would have played out differently.

by mattwelch on Sep 27, 2011 6:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Starting my annual October depression a little early

only an epic fail by the MFY can stave it off

Well, come see a fat old man some time!

by Moondoggy on Sep 26, 2011 10:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Sad day for me! The season is really over!!

-Haren pitched his ass off but really, it was all for nothing!
-Mathis is still a piece of crap
-It was a fun ride! Let’s get ready for next year
-Before when the Angels sucked, I didn’t really care if/when the season ended. Now, I’m bummed since the playoffs won’t have the Halos in it.
-I’ll (try) to be in Tempe next year for the first time since 2008. Can’t wait!!!

"Hey where the white women at"?

by Halos2008 on Sep 26, 2011 10:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Well. Here's to the 2011 Angels. Overachieved.

Glad we at least ended above .500

Representing the Angels in Sin City.

by maze88 on Sep 26, 2011 10:19 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

If we had signed Beltre and kept Napoli

SSAybar/ CFBourjos/ 2BKendrick/ 3B Beltre/ DH Napoli/ 1B Trumbo/ RF Hunter /LF Trout / 3B Callaspo/ C Mathis….yeah we would have won the division

by DMAGZ13 on Sep 26, 2011 10:19 PM PDT reply actions  

So now that the Angels are officially eliminated

can Sosh stop fooling around hoping Mathis will still get his avg to .175 and finally play Conger???

by smithy610 on Sep 26, 2011 10:21 PM PDT reply actions  

No

Need that defense in the lineup

"Its like when i’m right…i’m right… and when i’m wrong…i could have been right..so i’m still right cause i could have been wrong"-Chevy Clarke's Twitter

by ryanfea on Sep 26, 2011 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Conger doesnt look that good either. Just compared to Mathis.

  How about compared to say . . Mike Napoli and his 1000 OPS? Or even Miguel Olivo.

by Wally's World on Sep 26, 2011 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

you summed up what i have been trying to say for the whole season. thanks

conger > mathis

by ihigh on Sep 26, 2011 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Frankly, no catcher looks good under Scioscia.

The last good catcher under Mike was Bengie, and that was a player Mike inherited. Every other catcher has progressively withered under his management.

The things Scioscia said in the press about Conger this season were astonishing. Absolute classless.

Napoli’s liberation in Texas to me stands as dispositive evidence of Scioscia’s critical deficit in catcher mentorship. He’s a liability to young catchers — we should trade Conger sooner rather than later, and bring in a veteran defensive catcher that Scioscia can’t “reform”.

by Turks Teeth on Sep 26, 2011 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Check your email TT

Sent you the “idea”.

"Talent does what it can; genius does what it must." ~ Edward G. Bulwer-Lytton

Angels 2011 W-L record with the alternate red jersey: 17-11

by blast21dave on Sep 26, 2011 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll give it a look.

I may need a breather before writing something of length. I think I need to decompress and regain a little equanimity.

Plus, it’s “peer review” season at Google — which always feels like the Great Leap Sideways here in lotusland.

by Turks Teeth on Sep 26, 2011 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I actually feel sorry for Mathis

Any glimmer of confidence he might have had in himself has been destroyed by Soth. When your boss trots you out there and yanks your butt in the middle of a game like Soth has done to him the past few weeks, he’s publicly embarrassing him, basically telling everyone watching the game “hey you suck and cant hit well enough to play so I’m gonna PH for you.” If he’s really a defensive gem, he should be coming in late in the game to help hold a lead. The best thing for both team and player is to let him join Brandon Wood in Pitt or something like that. Mathis should have been gone end of last season; but, by keeping him a year too long, Soth has dismantled this player just like he did Naps and like he probably will Conger. Soth may have been a great catcher; but, he has trouble managing them.

by frosse on Sep 26, 2011 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

On more than 1300 other occasions

Scioscia said “I trust you, son” by letting Mathis grab a bat and head out of the dugout. Mathis doesn’t suck because of Scioscia, Scioscia sucks because of Mathis.

by Suboptimal on Sep 26, 2011 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

OK, moving on

Fuck the Red Sux!!!!
Go Tampa Bay!!!

by Raaddad on Sep 26, 2011 10:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Hahahaha

wouldn’t that tick off the east coast baseball powers

by Raaddad on Sep 26, 2011 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's what I'm hoping for.

Fox Sports and a certain 4-letter-network would have collective heart attacks.

Plus we would get two Soth proteges in with Roenicke and Maddon!

If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?

by red floyd on Sep 26, 2011 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who will Joe Buck talk about...

he only knows one player and we all know and loathe who that is.

by angelsfan7 on Sep 27, 2011 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Two straight loser seasons.

Welcome to the Scioscia empire-of-none.

The man’s legend is done.

by Turks Teeth on Sep 26, 2011 10:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Jinx.

A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.

by angelslogic on Sep 26, 2011 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

i'm down.

hula dula da dominoes rula.

by DanishThunder on Sep 27, 2011 4:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Inspiration

for a future fanpost….

This needs to be explored further.

"Talent does what it can; genius does what it must." ~ Edward G. Bulwer-Lytton

Angels 2011 W-L record with the alternate red jersey: 17-11

by blast21dave on Sep 26, 2011 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

and Premium

"Talent does what it can; genius does what it must." ~ Edward G. Bulwer-Lytton

Angels 2011 W-L record with the alternate red jersey: 17-11

by blast21dave on Sep 26, 2011 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes don't forget that Lyle said

you play Mathis if you want to win championships. Easy.

Did I miss some seasons where Mathis led a team to a championship???

by smithy610 on Sep 26, 2011 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

You play Mathis if you want to get your gal in a romantic mood

That, or Sinatra. One of the two should work.

You boys stick around--there'll be turkey and ice cream later!

by rspencer on Sep 26, 2011 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure

But I was referring to the film Diner. In that film the debate concerns only Mathis and Sinatra.

You boys stick around--there'll be turkey and ice cream later!

by rspencer on Sep 27, 2011 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll email you

see if it has any traction.

"Talent does what it can; genius does what it must." ~ Edward G. Bulwer-Lytton

Angels 2011 W-L record with the alternate red jersey: 17-11

by blast21dave on Sep 26, 2011 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Many people will still try to make claims that we overacheived this season

"Its like when i’m right…i’m right… and when i’m wrong…i could have been right..so i’m still right cause i could have been wrong"-Chevy Clarke's Twitter

by ryanfea on Sep 26, 2011 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Several "we overachieved" posts right in this post.

Pretty pathetic IMO.

What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.

by clover_black on Sep 26, 2011 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

There's an odd balance, at least in how I view it,

Of expectations of a $140 million team in a vacuum and the current makeup of the Angels’ roster. A $140 million team should never be described as “overachieving,” but a look at the lineup that Scioscia trotted out every night and you wonder how this team was “still-in-race” in the last week of the season.

I put it more on Reagins right now for the current makeup of the roster, but I also can’t excuse Scioscia for the lineup out there night after night.

by linkbruin on Sep 26, 2011 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Every personnel decision is approved by Scioscia.

Arte has said so, and even Terry Smith reiterated it last night. Reagins presents Mike with ideas, and Mike approves or rejects them. It’s really that simple.

by Turks Teeth on Sep 26, 2011 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's what separates

the me Reagins from the Epsteins

Well, come see a fat old man some time!

by Moondoggy on Sep 26, 2011 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, like for a start-up in Bangladesh.

Then we can get a GM of cold genius that puts Scioscia on ice.

Keep your eye on the field, Mike — and keep your hands off the roster.

by Turks Teeth on Sep 26, 2011 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I still love the Rally Monkey

"Its like when i’m right…i’m right… and when i’m wrong…i could have been right..so i’m still right cause i could have been wrong"-Chevy Clarke's Twitter

by ryanfea on Sep 26, 2011 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not tired of either

it’s just that neither was particularly effective this season.

Has everybody forgotten what the pre Soth days were like? We never bitched like this because…wait for it…we were in the playoffs exactly THREE times in 40 years!!! and, oh by the way, didn’t win an fing series. I know that everyone is diown and frustrated and actibng like armchair quarterbacks, but let’s try not to look too stupid here. Washington won the division and he’s an idiot. Be careful what you wish for.

Well, come see a fat old man some time!

by Moondoggy on Sep 26, 2011 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Correlation is not causation.

The biggest change between pre-Soth and post-Soth is that the Angels now have one of the top five payrolls in baseball.

We had one beautiful, fluky run in 2002, followed by a devastating 2003 that proved how miraculous that season was, and from 2004 on, Arte Moreno poured money into this club like a fat magic fairy hemorrhaging lucre, much to our benefit. We outspent our rivals in a weak division, and smart free agent acquisitions like Vlad and Colon kept us in the postseason for several years until they were gone.

It’s a different time. Now Texas kicks our asses with 40-50M less in team salary. And it’s not really even close.

I think the burden of proof is heavily on the Scioscia faithful now — this is a manager who made Jeff Mathis majority-time catcher, kicked Napoli to the curb, and bet the farm on Vernon Wells. Those who would stand by him now stand by that record of idiocy as well.

by Turks Teeth on Sep 26, 2011 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm of two minds re Scioscia

Regarding the management of men, he seems to be singularly gifted. Regarding the evaluation of ability, he seems to be either inept or mulishly contrary. This year, it seems as if he purposefully assembled a mediocre team, just to have the challenge of managing them.

This I think is the source of the “overachieving” idea: independent of payroll cost, the team did rather better than most people expected. As ludicrous as the concept is, I think it’s just the way some of us are coping with this season of bitter disappointments.

As others have said here, I’d dearly love to see the Angels hire a GM who would take care of the personnel decisions himself, and limit Scioscia to that which he does well.

You boys stick around--there'll be turkey and ice cream later!

by rspencer on Sep 26, 2011 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Neither honestly

I am tired of the FO, and I would like to see Scioscia with much less of a say in those matters.

by linkbruin on Sep 26, 2011 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Someone remember to turn out the lights

after you realize the chase is over this season.

"Talent does what it can; genius does what it must." ~ Edward G. Bulwer-Lytton

Angels 2011 W-L record with the alternate red jersey: 17-11

by blast21dave on Sep 26, 2011 10:23 PM PDT reply actions  

No problem

sounds like you got it worked out (?)

"Talent does what it can; genius does what it must." ~ Edward G. Bulwer-Lytton

Angels 2011 W-L record with the alternate red jersey: 17-11

by blast21dave on Sep 26, 2011 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep

took two fucking weeks

by Raaddad on Sep 26, 2011 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is new era for the halos

We can’t just be content with 2nd place anymore! Shit, were one of the top teams in baseball (like Boston, NY, Philly)….it’s time to start thinking like a big-market team that struts their stuff and takes names and kicks ass!

We are not the plucky 2002 halos of yester-year! We’re da big dogs of the AL. Time to act like Arte!!

"Hey where the white women at"?

by Halos2008 on Sep 26, 2011 10:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Was at the game..

Hopefully Mathis’ last…The guy seriously pisses me off. My one highlight of the night was catching a BP HR one handed and barehanded… cell phone in other…

Should change my screen name to Stuck with Premium.

by stuck in Romania on Sep 26, 2011 10:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Vernon should be benched for these last 2 games

Of course there is the “He’s awful at baseball and Trout is good at it” part, but

If Vernon doesn’t get another AB, he’ll have a season OPS of .666

Perfect.

by ~MMP~ on Sep 26, 2011 10:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Bench Trout

he’s up to his limit for rookie of the year next year, eh?

by Raaddad on Sep 26, 2011 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

let's see..

bench Trout so he would be eligible for ROY stats next season
or win against TX just to say we did. (I think they will be resting a ton of people these next 2 games now that they eliminated us).

I think I’m going to pick winning.

by angelsfan7 on Sep 27, 2011 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don't play Trout

May disqualify him from ROY hunt next year.

by Unclearnie on Sep 26, 2011 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey at least Justin Speier is throwing out the first pitch Wednesday

That ought to cheer everyone up, right?

"Its like when i’m right…i’m right… and when i’m wrong…i could have been right..so i’m still right cause i could have been wrong"-Chevy Clarke's Twitter

by ryanfea on Sep 26, 2011 10:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Man f-ck Justin Speier!

"Hey where the white women at"?

by Halos2008 on Sep 26, 2011 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Soth is glossy eyed.

This is YOUR fault, bud.

"The AL West is turning into an awkward high school party
The Rangers totally want us to f*ck them and we just won’t do it." - Commander_Nate

by GutterDem0n on Sep 26, 2011 10:29 PM PDT reply actions  

He certainly played him.

"The AL West is turning into an awkward high school party
The Rangers totally want us to f*ck them and we just won’t do it." - Commander_Nate

by GutterDem0n on Sep 26, 2011 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Photobucket

"The AL West is turning into an awkward high school party
The Rangers totally want us to f*ck them and we just won’t do it." - Commander_Nate

by GutterDem0n on Sep 26, 2011 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

c'mon be real

The money this guy is being paid you cannot bench him.
That would just be stupid – even more stupid that getting him in the first place.

by angelsfan7 on Sep 27, 2011 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

So its okay for the team to suffer because he is incompetent?

"The AL West is turning into an awkward high school party
The Rangers totally want us to f*ck them and we just won’t do it." - Commander_Nate

by GutterDem0n on Sep 27, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

you play the best player regardless of salary if you want to win

That is what made me love baseball as a kid- pinch hitters, pinch runners, etc… the whole idea of trying to get a preferential matchup is so fascinating, and it all goes back to that main idea,
play the best player.

by Balls and Strikes on Sep 27, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Michael Eves with the softball questions.

Man.. this is bad.

Man.. this is bad.

What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.

by clover_black on Sep 26, 2011 10:29 PM PDT reply actions  

someone in the media needs to go high and tight on Sosh and start asking him tough questions!

He needs to be held accountable. Sosh is getting to comfortable and complacent! Sorry, you gotta stay of the game of step off!!

"Hey where the white women at"?

by Halos2008 on Sep 26, 2011 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

do it.

but drink more booze first.

What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.

by clover_black on Sep 26, 2011 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do it

"Its like when i’m right…i’m right… and when i’m wrong…i could have been right..so i’m still right cause i could have been wrong"-Chevy Clarke's Twitter

by ryanfea on Sep 26, 2011 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

"There are changes to teams every year. We know that."

Soth answering question.

A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.

by angelslogic on Sep 26, 2011 10:31 PM PDT reply actions  

In my mind it goes

Reporter: What’s up with always playing your son, Jeff Mathis, despite his horrible average?
Soth: Mathis is not my son! What are you talking about?!
Reporter: Well, you certainly play him like one….

by smithy610 on Sep 26, 2011 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ok....

so….football….
(Can’t bear to watch the Yanks in the series again)

by Raaddad on Sep 26, 2011 10:31 PM PDT reply actions  

NO,

Hockey, be strong.

Unlike this cat, my love for the LAA will never die.

by NathanielS on Sep 26, 2011 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

This.

If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?

by red floyd on Sep 26, 2011 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like how Mota was saying this club needs to improve its situational hitting.

As if this is an acquired skill, honed by many hours in the batting cage with mickey hatcher.

What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.

by clover_black on Sep 26, 2011 10:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Wait haven't you heard?

Players can magically become a better baseball player with runners in scoring position now. For reals dude.

"Its like when i’m right…i’m right… and when i’m wrong…i could have been right..so i’m still right cause i could have been wrong"-Chevy Clarke's Twitter

by ryanfea on Sep 26, 2011 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I discovered Halos Heaven this year, so that was good.

The rest just made me angry.

Unlike this cat, my love for the LAA will never die.

by NathanielS on Sep 26, 2011 10:37 PM PDT reply actions  

and you survived!

many newbies bite the dust around here..
Congrats

by Raaddad on Sep 26, 2011 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks dude.

Unlike this cat, my love for the LAA will never die.

by NathanielS on Sep 26, 2011 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was new in 09

most of these guys have been hanging together since ‘05-’08

by Raaddad on Sep 26, 2011 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

With you on that.

Joined 2 months after you did.

"The AL West is turning into an awkward high school party
The Rangers totally want us to f*ck them and we just won’t do it." - Commander_Nate

by GutterDem0n on Sep 26, 2011 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't remember when I joined

seems like for-fi’ng-ever

Well, come see a fat old man some time!

by Moondoggy on Sep 26, 2011 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bite me.

If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?

by red floyd on Sep 26, 2011 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

year before I was born RD

so you might be right

fAte

Well, come see a fat old man some time!

by Moondoggy on Sep 27, 2011 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm in the October 09 "club" (lol)

with Nate, DOV, and Quad Fin Rider (I think)

by Raaddad on Sep 26, 2011 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

You 10k post people are bananas

In a good way.

Unlike this cat, my love for the LAA will never die.

by NathanielS on Sep 26, 2011 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn, you had it easy!

No wonder you survived, seeing how all the scorn was probably directed towards DOV when you were a new guy! Lol.

Faith Focus Finish

by b0rd3rline on Sep 26, 2011 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Same here

Joined in June of 09.

"Talent does what it can; genius does what it must." ~ Edward G. Bulwer-Lytton

Angels 2011 W-L record with the alternate red jersey: 17-11

by blast21dave on Sep 26, 2011 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Joined July of 09

Lots of regulars here came in the 2009 season.

"Its like when i’m right…i’m right… and when i’m wrong…i could have been right..so i’m still right cause i could have been wrong"-Chevy Clarke's Twitter

by ryanfea on Sep 27, 2011 6:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

I joined sometime in '06 or '07.

Hard to tell, because the dates all got reset when they reset the logins.

Looks like the earliest post I can find from me is October 2007, but I thought I was here for the HGH signing.

If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?

by red floyd on Sep 26, 2011 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Raaddad, drop me an email.

We still need to get together.

If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?

by red floyd on Sep 26, 2011 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

me too!

weaver's illegitimate son...although i am pretty legit

by weaver_is_my_daddy on Sep 26, 2011 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're on probation still.

You joined last month!

"The AL West is turning into an awkward high school party
The Rangers totally want us to f*ck them and we just won’t do it." - Commander_Nate

by GutterDem0n on Sep 26, 2011 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

if you tell them, they'll know!

shushhhh! hahah

weaver's illegitimate son...although i am pretty legit

by weaver_is_my_daddy on Sep 26, 2011 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Scioscia for Ozzie

Maybe he’ll light a fire under this teams ass. Besides, he loves Bourjos.

Representing the Angels in Sin City.

by maze88 on Sep 26, 2011 10:40 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

and Mathis will finally get released.

Remember how he intentionally walked the batter before Mathis to get to pitch to him???? Ozzie is a smart man.

by smithy610 on Sep 26, 2011 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep, Trumbo came up twice with RISP in the same game. Ozzie walked him to get to Mathis

And of course Mathis responded with a 2 and an easy groundout if I remember correctly

by ~MMP~ on Sep 26, 2011 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man, I can't believe we had those days in this season

where Mathis was the guy “protecting” Trumbo!!! I can’t imagine how that was possible, but it really happened…

by smithy610 on Sep 26, 2011 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

agree

that walk move was a slap in sosh’s face. the whole world knows mathis sucks…except sosh

conger > mathis

by ihigh on Sep 27, 2011 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

And just like that, we're done.

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"The AL West is turning into an awkward high school party
The Rangers totally want us to f*ck them and we just won’t do it." - Commander_Nate

by GutterDem0n on Sep 26, 2011 10:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Dear Arte,

Remember in 04 when you won us over by adding Vladdy,Jose Guillen,Kelvim Escobar and Bartolo Colon? well yeah that honeymoon phase is over you need to go get us some BIG names…maybe youve heard of this guy names Albert Pujols….or this other dude called Prince Fielder yea they are pretty good….just imagine the damage a middle of the line up with Pujols/Fielder Kendrys and Trumbo followed by Torii yea i thought you might like the sound of that
Love,
Angel Fans

Bieber Fever? No! I got Weaver Fever!!!!

by KB_24 on Sep 26, 2011 10:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Thanks for the season Angels, even though the stress took 20 years off my life!

but with the advancements in modern technology, i could still live for another 120-130 years no problem

weaver's illegitimate son...although i am pretty legit

by weaver_is_my_daddy on Sep 26, 2011 10:41 PM PDT reply actions  

I this game there are three bases

all of them first?

Unlike this cat, my love for the LAA will never die.

by NathanielS on Sep 26, 2011 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now that it's all over, we should list our personal highlight of the 2011 season.

Mine? Being called a racist by thebigtizzle. Good times, great memories

"I too played shortstop for many years until I was struck down by Acne and Baby Fat" HST

by No Bologna Polonia on Sep 26, 2011 10:44 PM PDT reply actions  

RACIST!!!!

"I too played shortstop for many years until I was struck down by Acne and Baby Fat" HST

by No Bologna Polonia on Sep 26, 2011 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe it's just society.

Arte Went Biblical sounded nice until it was clear it didn't involve sitting the twenty-three million dollar man.

by snowhor on Sep 26, 2011 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

LMAO!!!!!

Bieber Fever? No! I got Weaver Fever!!!!

by KB_24 on Sep 26, 2011 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

SPC7!!!!!

"I too played shortstop for many years until I was struck down by Acne and Baby Fat" HST

by No Bologna Polonia on Sep 26, 2011 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I got nothing....

"I too played shortstop for many years until I was struck down by Acne and Baby Fat" HST

by No Bologna Polonia on Sep 26, 2011 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

ANGELS

I THINK THE ANGELS SHOOD BE PLAYING THE NL AND MAKE THE DOGERS GO FOR WINMING THE WURLD SEREES, BECUASE THEY HAVE A GOOD CHANCE OF THEY USE THE DH BECAYSE THEY HAVE SOM RELLY GOOD PLAYURS LIKE THE ANGELS HAD AND I HAVE A FUN TIUME WATCHING BASEBALL.

by Balls and Strikes on Sep 27, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Luminous.

This team has much resistance power. And I know, I study every match.

Arte Went Biblical sounded nice until it was clear it didn't involve sitting the twenty-three million dollar man.

by snowhor on Sep 27, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

No points for you

You forgot to mention bringing the DH to the NL!!!1

"Talent does what it can; genius does what it must." ~ Edward G. Bulwer-Lytton

Angels 2011 W-L record with the alternate red jersey: 17-11

by blast21dave on Sep 27, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn. Bet me to it!!

If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?

by red floyd on Sep 27, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

*beat*

If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?

by red floyd on Sep 27, 2011 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

shoot, I knew I was forgetting something.

I even went back and messed up the spelling to make it more authentic.

by Balls and Strikes on Sep 27, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Said the racist.

Unlike this cat, my love for the LAA will never die.

by NathanielS on Sep 26, 2011 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I never claimed otherwise. I hate white people!

"I too played shortstop for many years until I was struck down by Acne and Baby Fat" HST

by No Bologna Polonia on Sep 26, 2011 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Nice

Ranger fans celebrating
(too soon)

by Raaddad on Sep 26, 2011 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, at least there's hockey to look forward to

I was hoping for basketball, but even those jobs are leaving overseas. Let’s go Ducks! and Bulldogs! (Gotta throw in the college props)

F.F.F.

"Do you think we need one more...? You think we need one more... Alright we'll get one more"

by UMDfutbol11 on Sep 26, 2011 10:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Beltre with the curbstomp

It’s only appropriate that his home run would be the difference. Failing to sign him in January started the cascade of events that ended with elimination. The Angels’ Brainbust lost this one a long time before the players did.

I’m actually pretty proud of them. Well, some of them. The front-end of the rotation carried a heavy load, and the kids reached beyond expectations. Every player under the age of 30 deserved better than this.

by Suboptimal on Sep 26, 2011 11:00 PM PDT reply actions  

At least Naps didn't hit one out

That would have really sucked.
(I’ll take my victories any way I can get them)

by Raaddad on Sep 26, 2011 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree.

it was great watching him get K’d and then K’d and then K’d…

by angelsfan7 on Sep 27, 2011 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

+1

In agreement again. We acquire Beltre and retain Napoli, and this whole season is emphatically different.

It’s been said a million times, but it’s amazing how catastrophic that moment of panic was. It really was the Donnie Moore moment of this generation of the Angels franchise — a chilling plunge into the outer dark — and it didn’t even happen on the field.

by Turks Teeth on Sep 26, 2011 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

You sniffed this one out long before I did

There was still a limit to how much wrong-headedness I could attribute to the management before Black Friday. Now it’s plain as daylight. If Arte doesn’t see it now, then I’ll truly believe that any idiot can become a billionaire in America.

by Suboptimal on Sep 26, 2011 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

That's my greatest fear about this season

What if he doesn’t see? While I am happy with how well the young guys played and I am excited about the future, I have to question if they didn’t do themselves and us a huge disservice. They didn’t win enough to make the post season, but did they win just enough to save Tony and Jeffy?

"I too played shortstop for many years until I was struck down by Acne and Baby Fat" HST

by No Bologna Polonia on Sep 26, 2011 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sure they'll make the argument

It’s a dumb one, because Texas will still win the division by 6, 8, or 10 games, depending on how Tuesday and Wednesday play out. The fact that the Angels were still alive on September 26 is really just an accident of where the wins and losses fell down on the calendar. Texas was a significantly better team from start to finish.

I actually worry that Arte might find himself trapped by organizational inertia. It’s hard to make big changes. There are contracts, personal feelings, and even the daily routines these guys established will take effort to replace. Arte might try to wait them out and see if they get it together. Who knows how long he’ll wait.

It’s like when you’re stuck in line at the store, but the line next to yours keeps moving. When do you give up and make the switch? In situations like these, people tend to hesitate and end up hurting themselves in the long term.

by Suboptimal on Sep 26, 2011 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Congrasts to you both

For prophesizing that we would suck.
Most luminous.

by Raaddad on Sep 27, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

The team lost the division by eight games, thusfar.

Could be ten if they play the final two like they did tonight.

If Arte is satisfied with that — I agree — he’s the luckiest man in the world. There’s no difficulty he won’t stare down…

…at his shoes to avoid.

by Turks Teeth on Sep 26, 2011 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

As someone who has been an unrepentant Scioscialist

Tonight I eat my own shit sandwich.

I didn’t want Beltre. He’s looked like a future Hall of Famer this year.

I thought the Wells deal was a huge gamble, but kind of liked it because it got rid of Juan Rivera. Also from the standpoint that it so defied conventional wisdom I hoped it would work out. Jesus H, what a disaster. Vernon is Andruw Jones.

Scioscia’s thing with Mathis has baffled and pissed me off, but I have been willing to give Scioscia a ton of leeway with regards to picking his catcher. No more.

Tip of the cap to Subop and Turk for your astute foresight and the shit I’ve given you all season.

by Zaius on Sep 26, 2011 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't take any pleasure in the way things worked out

I also realize there’s a slight chance things could have broken a little differently, and I’d look like an ass right now. At the end of the day, it just sucks to be a fan of a team that misses the playoffs, whether you believed it was likely or not. No hard feelings, dude.

I should also probably stop sticking up for Brad Pitt. The book served a purpose, but that legend is getting out of hand now.

by Suboptimal on Sep 26, 2011 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

why was he even born.

i honestly thought, if sosh had a brain, that he would bench mathis for the rest of the season but i guess i had to much faith in him. now i really think mike has lost his mind.

conger > mathis

by ihigh on Sep 27, 2011 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Damn This season is what is it is.

A major cocktease. I am still proud of the team for making it this far. However I am not proud of the gutless September performances. They are young but still. Oh well 2012 could carry new hope. Can’ wait.

The 2011 Angels, the biggest cocktease ever.

by Angelsrthebest101 on Sep 26, 2011 11:41 PM PDT reply actions  

And hopefully, Kendrys is good to go.

We need both Trumbo and Kendrys in the line up a majority of the time. But its going to be very crowded… way to go Reagins.

"The AL West is turning into an awkward high school party
The Rangers totally want us to f*ck them and we just won’t do it." - Commander_Nate

by GutterDem0n on Sep 27, 2011 3:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

The 2011 Angels season should end with a Dr. Seuss quote

 
“Don’t cry because it’s over, smile because it happened”
 

From Jeff Mathis' TOPPS card: "Jeff is a defensive catcher, but he can rake it when it counts." Jeff has a lifetime .199 MLB batting average

by mustard_man on Sep 27, 2011 4:45 AM PDT reply actions  

Man, the title on the blame of the game poll should be changed to blame of the season

With an effective catcher or a guy who cared about his performance in LF, we might have won the west easily

by Balls and Strikes on Sep 27, 2011 8:01 AM PDT reply actions  

Even when they won...

did you ever really like this team?

by grahams98 on Sep 27, 2011 8:54 AM PDT reply actions  

I will always like the Angels

I may not like how they play but I will always like them. Just my opinion.

by angelsfan7 on Sep 27, 2011 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Good question

I’ve been thinking about that a lot this year

by Raaddad on Sep 27, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

even when they were winning, it wasnt as fun to watch as the teams of 5-10 years ago.

the bullpen was ugly, hitting was weak and there arent any players you get excited about at the plate. I hope trout changes all this… can he pitch too?

by Balls and Strikes on Sep 27, 2011 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dear Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim

Now that 2011 is essentially over, let’s discuss 2012. Please give me a reason to change my signature.

Thank you,

red floyd

If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?

by red floyd on Sep 27, 2011 10:53 AM PDT reply actions  

Last night, Sosh said he's already "turned the page" on 2011

Which I interpreted as, “missing the playoffs isn’t my fault, I did absolutely nothing wrong, and I’m not going to change anything next season.”

by Suboptimal on Sep 27, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sometimes you just have to tip your cap to the rest of the league.

Arte Went Biblical sounded nice until it was clear it didn't involve sitting the twenty-three million dollar man.

by snowhor on Sep 27, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don't worry though, Mathis will be the 2012 Comeback Player of the Year

Actually, I think you have to have past success for that.

So, maybe a participation ribbon?

by ~MMP~ on Sep 27, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

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